**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 19 02:59:58 2016
Feb 19 03:03:29 <Elkin> hello
Feb 19 03:03:46 <zmatt> hi
Feb 19 03:07:27 <Strontium> zmatt: The A1/A2 and A3/A4 pins on the X15 connector are connected inside the connector, they are GND in the design so, that explains why one is N/C it could be GND or N/C it makes no difference.
Feb 19 03:08:15 <zmatt> then it's plain weird to leave them NC instead of GND
Feb 19 03:08:45 <Strontium> zmatt: The B pins B1 and B2 are deisgned for power, they can take up to 12A
Feb 19 03:09:14 <Strontium> zmatt: Actually sorry A2/A3 are 3v3.  The A and B pins can all take very high current.
Feb 19 03:09:28 <Strontium> But yeah, i agree with you they should be tied together on the schematic.
Feb 19 03:10:14 <Strontium> Its those pins which are through hole and will prevent anyone puting a connector underneath to have mezzanine type stacking like the BBB can do.
Feb 19 03:10:36 <Strontium> THe only way to do that will be some sort of horrible offsetting system.
Feb 19 03:15:59 <Strontium> from the design, i dont think its intended to stack multiple boards, and if it is they clearly didn't think it through.  I also don't know why they just didn't use 2 x 120 pin connectors instead of 4 x 60 pin ones.  the 120 pin one looks like its the same price as a 60 pin one and you need half as many.
Feb 19 03:17:03 <Strontium> Its certainly a very curious set of design decisions.
Feb 19 03:20:24 <poffs> how do i remotely restart a BBB?
Feb 19 03:20:33 <zmatt> ssh
Feb 19 03:20:39 <poffs> yeah what command?
Feb 19 03:20:42 <zmatt> sudo reboot
Feb 19 03:20:49 <poffs> damn
Feb 19 03:20:52 <poffs> i just did shutdown -r now
Feb 19 03:20:56 <poffs> and it hasn't come back up
Feb 19 03:20:58 <zmatt> that should work too
Feb 19 03:21:07 <poffs> hmm... ok i'll give it a bit longer
Feb 19 03:21:50 <poffs> yay it came up
Feb 19 03:21:53 <zmatt> \o/
Feb 19 03:22:14 <poffs> it's like 150km away so i don't want to screw it up lol
Feb 19 03:22:26 <poffs> i had to go to it a few days ago because i firewalled myself out lol
Feb 19 03:24:12 <poffs> i have an attached USB drive --- it's a 1tb hard drive attached by USB. it's not being mounted. can't find it in fdisk -l
Feb 19 03:24:20 <poffs> is there anything i can do?
Feb 19 03:24:31 <poffs> i've never mounted it before, but I know that it lights up and spins when I plugged it in
Feb 19 03:25:45 <poffs> it doesn't show up in fdisk -l or blkid
Feb 19 03:26:20 <zmatt> check kernel log whether it detected the drive at all?
Feb 19 03:26:24 <zmatt> dmesg
Feb 19 03:36:12 <matildaa> Hello! :) Could anyone help me with some issues I'm having booting Kali on my BBB?
Feb 19 03:36:24 <matildaa> If anyone out there has some experience on the matter :3
Feb 19 03:36:35 * zmatt has no idea what Kali is
Feb 19 03:36:42 <matildaa> Kali Linux? xD
Feb 19 03:36:44 <matildaa> kali.org
Feb 19 03:37:00 <poffs> zmatt, for ub3r l337 h@x0ring
Feb 19 03:37:01 <matildaa> They have an .img specific to BBB
Feb 19 03:37:16 <matildaa> Lol I'm a CEH and I use it for work
Feb 19 03:37:27 <matildaa> not a skiddie
Feb 19 03:38:04 <matildaa> So I take it no one here has experience with it? :P
Feb 19 03:40:38 <poffs> i want a chinese woman to take me as her own :-(
Feb 19 03:42:26 <veremit> lol
Feb 19 03:42:35 <veremit> what's wrog with debian .. No WAIT .. don't answer :D
Feb 19 03:43:10 <veremit> ah yea .. hackers linux.. yes I remember.
Feb 19 03:43:15 <veremit> [kali]
Feb 19 03:53:33 <poffs> https://paste.debian.net/plain/398235
Feb 19 03:54:34 <poffs> is there some type of package that I need to mount drives via usb? it's also usb powered. i have a 2A power supply and the drive should draw 700 to 900 mah or thereabouts
Feb 19 03:54:45 <poffs> it *does* light up and spin
Feb 19 04:00:26 <zmatt> there's nothing further showing?  because the only relevant bit here is just showing it detected the presence of the usb device, not any evidence it felt inclined to do anything with it
Feb 19 04:00:55 <zmatt> hum
Feb 19 04:00:57 <zmatt> that's weird
Feb 19 04:01:13 <poffs> yeah i know lol
Feb 19 04:01:14 <ZeekHuge> Hey! I have a beaglebone black, with "uname -a" output as "Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone79 #1 SMP Tue Oct 13 20:44:55 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux". It usually works fine when i connect it to my ubuntu, but sometimes, I am unable to ssh to it via USB. The device still shows up as mass storage, but the the eth1 connection dosent get established. How can i get it solved ?
Feb 19 04:01:23 <zmatt> oh that doesn't mean anything, it's just the root hub
Feb 19 04:01:28 <zmatt> does lsusb show anything?
Feb 19 04:02:02 <poffs> zmatt, Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Feb 19 04:02:15 <zmatt> i.e. no device at all?
Feb 19 04:02:20 <poffs> seems so
Feb 19 04:02:29 <zmatt> then it looks like it hasn't even detected its presence, at all
Feb 19 04:02:43 <zmatt> no usb-related errors later in the log?
Feb 19 04:02:49 <poffs> nope
Feb 19 04:03:40 <zmatt> you're sure it's not a power-only power of the HD or something silly like that? (I think I've seen HDs with two USB ports for that purpose)
Feb 19 04:03:44 <zmatt> *power-only port
Feb 19 04:04:50 <poffs> zmatt, yup. it's just a simple 2.5" disk and the case is just a simple board with a single port. nothing else.
Feb 19 04:08:18 <zmatt> I'm afraid I don't really have any ideas... problems with usb are not terribly uncommon, but typically those are accompanied by a generous serving of errors
Feb 19 04:08:42 <poffs> alright
Feb 19 04:22:30 <ZeekHuge>  Hey! I have a beaglebone black, with "uname -a" output as "Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone79 #1 SMP Tue Oct 13 20:44:55 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux". It usually works fine when i connect it to my ubuntu, but sometimes, I am unable to ssh to it via USB. The device still shows up as mass storage, but the the eth1 connection dosent get established. How can i get it solved ?
Feb 19 04:28:31 <veremit> takes a while sometimes for the usb to 'come up' properly .. and even longer if you're powering vs usb (since it has to boot first....)
Feb 19 04:29:42 <poffs> veremit, i don't think that's the issue. how long are we talking?
Feb 19 04:30:15 <veremit> mine's taken .. a min or two before
Feb 19 04:30:27 <veremit> otherwise check dmesg for clues
Feb 19 04:30:38 <poffs> yeah that's not the issue. you mounting actual hard drives or flash drives?
Feb 19 04:30:45 <veremit> bbb's ...
Feb 19 04:31:01 <poffs> right...
Feb 19 04:31:03 <veremit> composite gadget ftw
Feb 19 04:31:14 <veremit> or .. in my personal opinion .. ftl.
Feb 19 04:31:47 <poffs> how much power can a BBB supply via USB?
Feb 19 04:32:01 <ayjay> 10 farads
Feb 19 04:32:04 <veremit> enough to brown out :)
Feb 19 04:32:43 <veremit> but the spec is 500mA .. but I think zmatt may confirm, I don't think there's a hardware limitation
Feb 19 04:32:45 <poffs> anyone ever successfully powered and mounted a 2.5" 7200rpm via USB on a BBB?
Feb 19 04:32:57 <poffs> wut. 500ma is not enough for my drive
Feb 19 04:33:09 <veremit> I wouldn't personally try .. the spin-up is likely to brown out the cpu
Feb 19 04:33:15 <zmatt> yeah the overcurrent protection chip is pretty useless since you'll probably sooner take down vsys (causing the pmic to intervene by powering off)
Feb 19 04:33:35 <veremit> use a usb hub (powered) if you must
Feb 19 04:33:40 <poffs> my drive draws more than 500ma. perhpaps that is why. brb
Feb 19 04:33:58 <zmatt> if it draws consistently way too much then your bbb would shut down
Feb 19 04:34:39 <veremit> you're pushing it tbh on a 5400 drive by the time you've got usb-sata bridge chip too
Feb 19 04:34:45 <zmatt> however if it's too much but not way too much then it might cause vsys to dip and the drive might not appreciate that
Feb 19 04:35:06 <veremit> zmatt: I would suspect the drive is much more tolerant than a bbb ..
Feb 19 04:35:12 <zmatt> then again, if vsys dips more than a little bit then you'd also see musb kicking and screaming in the kernel log
Feb 19 04:35:18 <zmatt> so I doubt power is the problem here
Feb 19 04:35:42 <veremit> that too
Feb 19 04:36:06 <veremit> ZeekHuge's problem is just likely usb gadget period.
Feb 19 04:36:50 <poffs> yeah my drive is rated 800ma
Feb 19 04:37:22 <poffs> but shouldn't something show up in dmesg?
Feb 19 04:37:37 <zmatt> poffs: yes, so as I said I don't think power is the problem
Feb 19 04:38:44 <veremit> does musb actualyl complian .. or do you just get mystery usb failure :D
Feb 19 04:38:55 <zmatt> veremit: you get a big fat VBus Error
Feb 19 04:39:22 <veremit> so musb actually "cares" .. lol
Feb 19 04:39:41 <veremit> or even .. "knows"
Feb 19 04:39:56 <zmatt> yes, there's a vbus input and comparators at three different thresholds
Feb 19 04:39:58 <ZeekHuge> hey veremit ! So, should I check the dmesg ?
Feb 19 04:40:08 <veremit> ZeekHuge: yes, on *both* ends
Feb 19 04:40:08 <zmatt> (the only two 5V compatible inputs of the am335x ! )
Feb 19 04:40:36 <veremit> ah yes
Feb 19 04:40:47 <zmatt> I imagine that part of the chip must have a big fence with giant "DANGER! HIGH VOLTAGE!" signs on it
Feb 19 04:41:04 <veremit> zmatt: yes, yes it would!
Feb 19 04:41:47 <zmatt> not only are they 5V-tolerant, they are even 5V-tolerant when the chip is entirely powered down
Feb 19 04:42:19 <zmatt> so they're pretty special pins
Feb 19 04:43:43 <poffs> "usb-phy supply vcc not found, using dummy regulator"
Feb 19 04:43:45 <ZeekHuge> what should i look for ? in the dmesg ? I have a copy of dmesg log from BBB when usb was working and now when it is not working. But theres no difference in the "gadget" part.
Feb 19 04:43:53 <poffs> i think that's the error message that i was looking for in dmesg
Feb 19 04:43:55 <zmatt> poffs: you can ignore that
Feb 19 04:44:00 <zmatt> it's a harmless message
Feb 19 04:44:04 <poffs> zmatt, oh
Feb 19 04:44:21 <zmatt> it's linux being ridiculously fussy about the DT
Feb 19 05:01:51 * poffs flips out and buys an orange pi plus 2 with integrated sata
Feb 19 06:03:19 <veremit> opi++
Feb 19 06:14:47 <veremit> poffs: banana pi is also good :)
Feb 19 07:14:28 <poffs> know of anything with dual ethernet ports?
Feb 19 07:14:46 <zmatt> the x15 :P
Feb 19 07:14:48 <veremit> besides x15 and other expensive boards, nope.
Feb 19 07:15:05 <zmatt> the am335x has 'em too, just need to design a new board that actually pins it out ;)
Feb 19 07:15:06 <veremit> cheaper/easier to get an x86/x64 itx board
Feb 19 07:15:48 <Evermore99> Hello Good morning,
Feb 19 07:15:51 <tbr> I think the AM335x EVM has dual gbit ;)
Feb 19 07:16:03 * zmatt just made a page with an overview of the am335x ballout out of randomness, "ZCZ" tab of https://goo.gl/Jkcg0w
Feb 19 07:17:03 <zmatt> tbr: the starterkit too
Feb 19 07:17:04 <Evermore99> in your experiences, what kind of ADC would be best for Low noise, Low Voltage, 16/24bit?
Feb 19 07:17:15 <zmatt> tbr: which is a lot cheaper than the evm iirc
Feb 19 07:17:20 <zmatt> http://www.ti.com/tool/TMDSSK3358
Feb 19 07:17:34 <tbr> ah, didn't know of that one
Feb 19 07:17:56 <veremit> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4762 for example
Feb 19 07:18:20 <tbr> Evermore99: welcome back Bastiaaan or what was your nick yesterday? how's your research going? did you read the application notes suggested by KotH?
Feb 19 07:20:37 <Evermore99> I did some research on it, found some other great sources for understanding:), I thought I could go undercover;)
Feb 19 07:21:08 <av500> zmatt: do you have other hobbies too? besides drawing ball maps :)
Feb 19 07:21:30 <Evermore99> App notes SLVA043A /Texas, and Maxim
Feb 19 07:21:46 <av500> Evermore99: we know your every move!
Feb 19 07:22:09 <Evermore99> ;) I should use some proxies.
Feb 19 07:22:09 <veremit> Evermore99: https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/datasheet/index.mvp/id/3068 .. just from a 2sec google...
Feb 19 07:22:44 <av500> veremit: why do you have Evermore99?
Feb 19 07:22:47 <av500> hate*
Feb 19 07:22:50 <av500> veremit: why do you hate Evermore99?
Feb 19 07:22:55 <veremit> o,o
Feb 19 07:23:02 <av500> by proposing Maxim :)
Feb 19 07:23:09 <av500> at our company thats a firing offence :)
Feb 19 07:23:09 <veremit> Maxim do ok chips
Feb 19 07:23:12 <av500> sure
Feb 19 07:23:19 <av500> just dont depend on them for production
Feb 19 07:23:21 <veremit> although .. Microchip woul dbe anatural microcontroller affiliation
Feb 19 07:23:35 <veremit> maxim used to be good for power chips
Feb 19 07:23:42 <av500> yes, if you order a lot
Feb 19 07:23:43 <tbr> Evermore99: there aren't many people asking about >10bit ADCs, you will always stick out like a sore thumb.
Feb 19 07:23:47 <av500> try to order 1k of them
Feb 19 07:23:53 <av500> you wait until somebody else orders 100k
Feb 19 07:23:57 <veremit> av500: bleh .. 100/200 is enough for me :D
Feb 19 07:24:04 <av500> at least it was like that in the past
Feb 19 07:24:32 <veremit> av500: everyone had silicon problems a while back
Feb 19 07:24:40 <veremit> I thought that one had been conquered
Feb 19 07:24:41 <av500> Evermore99: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1083
Feb 19 07:25:00 <av500> veremit: it was more that max had a ton of chips as datasheets, but not as products
Feb 19 07:25:08 <av500> only if you ordered they would produce them
Feb 19 07:25:19 <av500> so it was samples or 100k
Feb 19 07:25:24 <av500> nothing in the middle
Feb 19 07:25:49 <veremit> av500: nice .. but not like other companies aren't guilty of that
Feb 19 07:26:07 <av500> sure, but max was extreme
Feb 19 07:27:07 <av500> https://www.adafruit.com/products/1085 16 bit
Feb 19 07:27:07 <Evermore99> I have shitting experiences with ATmega328.
Feb 19 07:27:27 <veremit> Evermore99: take your pick .. http://www.microchip.com/ParamChartSearch/chart.aspx?branchID=11022&mid=10&lang=en&pageId=79
Feb 19 07:28:55 <Evermore99> 12SPS? to low.
Feb 19 07:29:18 <Evermore99> but all thanks for the effort.
Feb 19 07:30:20 <veremit> 200ksps ?
Feb 19 07:30:42 <veremit> yeah don't look at the hobby ones if you're wanting to do serious acquisitions lol
Feb 19 07:30:58 <av500> Evermore99: there are a gazillion of AD converters.
Feb 19 07:31:03 <Evermore99> I know....
Feb 19 07:31:12 <av500> but most sites have nive forms where you can pick your params and it will propose one
Feb 19 07:31:15 <veremit> anyhow .. time to brb :D
Feb 19 07:31:19 <av500> TI, AD, Microchip
Feb 19 07:32:10 <Evermore99> all have less the 2 INL  DNL, SNR and some show SINAD for DC signals. somehow I have a fetish for ADC.
Feb 19 07:56:37 <ds2> av500: are we ready for GSoC app?
Feb 19 08:17:31 <zmatt> av500: sure I have more hobbies
Feb 19 08:17:48 <zmatt> av500: correcting TI support guys on E2E when they're misinformed about their own chips is fun too
Feb 19 08:20:53 <av500> zmatt: :)
Feb 19 08:21:05 <KotH> zmatt: +100 :)
Feb 19 08:22:13 <KotH> Evermore99: you are still asking about 16 and 24bit... which tells me you have not yet understood how this analog thing works
Feb 19 08:22:30 <KotH> Evermore99: there is a _HUGE_ difference in complexity between the two
Feb 19 08:22:54 <zmatt> <someone> how do I do $thing ?   <TI> I'm afraid that's not possible   <me> sure it is, you can configure that in the undocumented register at this address, and this is its structure
Feb 19 08:22:58 <KotH> Evermore99: getting to 16bit is easy, if you know what you are doing... if not it's a major pain in the ass
Feb 19 08:28:02 <av500> KotH: when I need 16bit, I buy a CD
Feb 19 08:29:08 <KotH> +1
Feb 19 08:29:18 <zmatt> CDs? those still exist?
Feb 19 08:29:24 <av500> of course
Feb 19 08:29:27 <zmatt> ;)
Feb 19 08:29:29 <KotH> zmatt: av500 is old school
Feb 19 08:29:31 <av500> I'm slowly replacing my tapes :)
Feb 19 08:33:40 <florian> av500: A major share of the kids today do not even know what this is :-)
Feb 19 08:34:33 <zmatt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkuirEweZvM
Feb 19 08:37:56 <av500> zmatt: I have a rotary phone at home, it has a much nicer ringtone than the DECT crap
Feb 19 08:38:32 <av500> and it never gets lost
Feb 19 08:40:29 * tbr wants a nice old bakelite phone for the living room table
Feb 19 08:43:36 <KotH> tbr: get them on ebay while they are still cheap
Feb 19 08:44:17 <tbr> yah, should look for one
Feb 19 08:44:26 * KotH should probably get one too
Feb 19 08:44:32 <KotH> for the grand grand children
Feb 19 08:45:01 <KotH> they are never gonna believe that we used non-telepathic devices to talk to eachother
Feb 19 08:47:04 * av500 has a mint W48 :)))
Feb 19 08:47:39 <ScrumpyJ1ck> i'n not too hot on javascript. can anyone tell me why it doesn't work here? -> http://st.ilet.to/bbb.png
Feb 19 08:48:09 <av500> I click on run and nothing happens
Feb 19 08:49:26 <zmatt> KotH: lol
Feb 19 09:01:25 <tbr> ScrumpyJack: check if the usb network is set up properly
Feb 19 09:23:11 <ScrumpyJack> tbr: I'm connected over ethernet
Feb 19 09:26:48 <ScrumpyJack> none of the blink led exemples work when run from the C9 IDE
Feb 19 10:47:42 <sachu> hello
Feb 19 10:48:16 <sachu> i purchased  beagle bone black for my project purpose
Feb 19 10:49:10 <sachu> i build yocto image  referring this docuemnt http://www.embarcados.com.br/beaglebone-black-yocto/
Feb 19 10:49:25 <sachu> i build the beagle bone black image
Feb 19 10:50:05 <sachu> let me know is it possible to nflash the same image to EMMC
Feb 19 10:50:10 <sachu> how can i do that
Feb 19 10:50:24 <sachu> thbis link only refers to flashing image to SD card
Feb 19 10:50:26 <sachu> please
Feb 19 10:50:28 <sachu> help me
Feb 19 10:54:53 <charizard42> hi can any one guide me with hello world application task as specified in beagle site
Feb 19 11:19:07 <KotH> charizard42: there is no hello world per se
Feb 19 11:19:19 <KotH> charizard42: it just boots linux
Feb 19 11:22:42 <charizard42> ohk
Feb 19 15:52:05 <Ragnorok> zmatt: Thanks for your help yesterday.  Got the PRU enabled, now I can try to do something with it.
Feb 19 16:35:11 <ds2> 9
Feb 19 16:35:58 <av500> 8
Feb 19 16:38:42 <ogra_> 7
Feb 19 16:38:53 <zmatt> 6
Feb 19 16:39:51 <vagrantc> π
Feb 19 16:43:22 <Ragnorok> e
Feb 19 16:43:55 <av500> 1!
Feb 19 16:44:37 <Ragnorok> \o/  New math
Feb 19 17:26:10 <duga> hi. I'd like to ask how I can cross compile c-program for beagle bone black rev c on the x86 machine (arch linux). I tried like this "arm-none-eabi-gcc -march=armv7-a -mtune=cortex-a8 -o test test.c -lc -lgcc -lm -lrdimon". It succeeded in the compilation, but when I tried to run the program, the one was killed by system.
Feb 19 17:28:00 <Ragnorok> duga: There are pages that describe this.  I'm using arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc on Debian and it seems to work.
Feb 19 17:33:48 <duga> Ragnorok: ok I will try this package
Feb 19 17:35:12 <vagrantc> duga: arm-none-eabi-gcc is probably a baremetal compiler
Feb 19 17:41:56 <zmatt> and rdimon is a semihosting library
Feb 19 17:42:15 <zmatt> (i.e. requires jtag)
Feb 19 17:59:45 <ikaRus> Hi
Feb 19 18:00:11 <Guest3710> How do I go about playing audio/video in the background
Feb 19 18:00:14 <Guest3710> ?
Feb 19 19:15:35 <duga> Ragnorok: vagrantc thanks I installed that gcc and cross compilation works
Feb 19 19:15:56 <Ragnorok> \o/  I think I may have helped my first peep on #beagle
Feb 19 19:17:43 <duga> Ragnorok: btw. do you have any tips for beaglebone black "how to avoid using emmc memory". It's highly likely that this part is irreplacible (easily though)
Feb 19 19:17:57 <duga> tips for developing
Feb 19 19:18:17 <Ragnorok> I'm using a uSD for dev.
Feb 19 19:18:23 <duga> how not to waste the bbb's memory to early
Feb 19 19:18:27 <duga> Ragnorok: uSD?
Feb 19 19:18:33 <Ragnorok> micro SD.
Feb 19 19:19:04 <Ragnorok> 4GB isn't really enough to do what I need, so I have 16 for development.  Final system should fit in 4 easy.
Feb 19 19:20:19 <duga> Ragnorok: 1. do you have to "push boot button " every time you need to start? 2. All I need to do install arm debian on sd card (or install any firmware files as in rpi)?
Feb 19 19:20:40 <duga> as I remembed what I was doing on some university classes
Feb 19 19:21:34 <Ragnorok> Nope.  It loads the uSD nearly every time.  Once a blue moon it goes to emmc, but when I can't find my dev dir I just reboot.
Feb 19 19:22:16 <duga> ok, thanks
Feb 19 19:22:38 <Ragnorok> I used the debian 8.3 image from beaglebone.org but it doesn't use uio_pruss, so I used apt-get to put in 4.1.18-bone19 that zmatt recommended.
Feb 19 19:23:09 <Ragnorok> So far, so good.  (shrug)
Feb 19 20:44:58 <newdude> hello guys! I wanted to start my dc motor using beagleboneblack and adafruit lib. But I cant start PWM, i've found that it might be a problem with ArchLinuxARM
Feb 19 20:45:03 <newdude> can you recommend something ?
Feb 19 20:45:13 <newdude> should i change OS or there is some solution ?
Feb 19 21:20:29 <_av500_> why not use the stock debian?
Feb 19 21:27:52 <newdude> @_av500 i wish i had stock os now, will stock image boot from sdcard now ?
Feb 19 21:37:11 <Ragnorok> The two on beaglebone.org will.
Feb 19 21:50:10 <zmatt> as will the "microSD/Standalone" images here -> http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#Jessie_Snapshot_lxqt
Feb 19 21:54:54 <newdude> @zmatt is there image for <=1GB sdcard?
Feb 19 21:55:55 * Ragnorok has a 8MB one if you need it
Feb 19 21:57:02 <zmatt> the console image fits on there if you shrink it (for some reason rcn-ee still made the image 2gb even though almost all of it is free space)
Feb 19 21:57:35 <newdude> at this moment i have 2x 1GB sdcard;/
Feb 19 21:57:56 <zmatt> why not use the on-board eMMC instead then?
Feb 19 21:58:58 <zmatt> note btw the console image is very minimalistic and meant for people who just want to install the stuff they need, not much works "out of the box" on those
Feb 19 21:59:29 <newdude> i just need base-devel
Feb 19 21:59:57 <newdude> but I am not sure how to back to one of these image from my current ArchLinuxARM on eMMC
Feb 19 22:00:17 <newdude> images*
Feb 19 22:00:35 <zmatt> yeah if you don't have a big enough SD card then you can't use a flasher.  you can also flash a BBB directly via usb though
Feb 19 22:01:12 <zmatt> here are instructions on how to make the BBB's eMMC appear as usb mass storage device -> http://pastebin.com/x5QzB18E
Feb 19 22:02:09 <zmatt> you can then just xzcat an image directly onto it
Feb 19 22:02:36 <newdude> that seems to one of the best option at this moment
Feb 19 22:03:05 <newdude> but this guide on pastebin is terrifying
Feb 19 22:03:17 <zmatt> hehe
Feb 19 22:03:19 * zmatt wrote it
Feb 19 22:03:29 <zmatt> BBBlfs is a very useful tool, but it's... brittle
Feb 19 22:04:08 <newdude> i think i will try it
Feb 19 22:04:11 <newdude> so much thanks!
Feb 19 22:04:54 <zmatt> I've made it quite explicit and detailed, including what you can expect to see at each point and an explanation of what's actually going on
Feb 19 22:09:57 <newdude> ok decided
Feb 19 22:10:02 <newdude> brb ;)
Feb 19 22:19:09 <newdude> @zmatt http://pastebin.com/CCyzcnvB I keep getting dc/connect by networkManager
Feb 19 22:19:23 <newdude> that sleep workaround doesnt work to me
Feb 19 22:27:11 <newdude> flashing started, but unfortunately there is no any indicators
Feb 19 23:54:22 <newdude> zmatt it doesnt work;/
Feb 19 23:54:34 <newdude> only one led is blinking after flashing
Feb 19 23:54:45 <newdude> and bbb doesnt boot
Feb 20 01:04:00 <guest104> Hi, I would like to buy a Beagleboard at one time. I have a question to ask you people about if I may. Are at least one of the boards capable of running all current Linux major desktop GUI's? Like Gnome 3, KDE5?
Feb 20 01:06:03 <vagrantc> technically, yes, but it may not perform well with gnome3 or KDE
Feb 20 01:06:44 <vagrantc> most of the beagleboard.org boards are going to be better off with a lighter-weight environment like xfce, lxde, lxqt, etc.
Feb 20 01:09:14 <guest104> Thanks vagrantc, I have another question to ask. Outside of the GUI's in terms of it being a mini computer can it run all the desktop apps that I'm used to? Say Libreoffice, Firefox, Chromeium? just trying to get an idea.
Feb 20 01:11:01 <vagrantc> still going to be pretty slow
Feb 20 01:11:47 <vagrantc> the beagle-x15 might be ok with that, but it's not yet generally available
Feb 20 01:12:27 <vagrantc> main thing with most of the boards is the lack of ram, though the CPUs aren't very fast
Feb 20 01:12:55 <vagrantc> guest104: if you're really looking for a small desktop computer, you might be better off with an x86 board
Feb 20 01:13:30 <newdude> is there some special type of install bootable debian image on sdcard?
Feb 20 01:13:39 <guest104> I'm also browsing elinux.org to try to learn more and did find a link to: kubuntu-desktop, etc.  When we talking about slow are we talking about slow as a Pentium II or slower example?
Feb 20 01:14:40 <agmlego> I have heard folk compare the 'bone's processor to a PII-PIII in overal performance.
Feb 20 01:14:56 <guest104> I can live if the speeds match a typical Tablet.
Feb 20 01:15:00 <agmlego> But then again, the board was not designed with desktop-GUI use as the primary point of optimization.
Feb 20 01:15:43 <vagrantc> newdude: https://beagleboard.org/latest-images
Feb 20 01:16:49 <guest104> "To be clear, none of these are supported by Beagleboard.org or Circuitco."  As the site says so they are not official and I hear(see).
Feb 20 01:18:39 <guest104> I'll buy one given the chance anyway to try to  mess around. I have seen people building cool stuff with these boards.
Feb 20 01:18:59 <marshall> i am a beginner with the BBB and am having trouble getting started.  using macbook pro, el capitan10.11.2
Feb 20 01:19:27 <marshall> and already downloaded latest horndus
Feb 20 01:20:12 <marshall> was able to log on board through terminal, changed password, shut down, then attempted to reconnect
Feb 20 01:20:51 <marshall> i am unable to reconnect, and a trying to figure out where to go next
Feb 20 01:23:33 <newdude> guys how to burn 4gb debian on sdcard to boot it then?
Feb 20 01:24:02 <newdude> at this moment I dont have stock os on bbb
Feb 20 01:25:03 <vagrantc> newdude: there are instructions for how to change it into an eMMC flasher image right below the dowload links
Feb 20 01:25:49 <newdude> vagrantc: i saw http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian
Feb 20 01:26:06 <newdude> but there is only information about uncommentted line
Feb 20 01:28:40 <vagrantc> yup.
Feb 20 01:28:50 <newdude> i am looking for the information how to put this image to my sdacard
Feb 20 01:29:00 <newdude> dd whole image to /dev/sda1?
Feb 20 01:33:51 <newdude> vagrantc: dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdcard1 ?
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