**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 06 02:59:58 2016 May 06 03:45:26 wow, mentions something here and all of a sudden: http://www.cnx-software.com/2016/05/06/beaglebone-air-is-a-beaglebone-black-green-compatible-development-board-with-wifi-bluetooth-le-and-zigbee-connectivity/ May 06 03:56:18 weird May 06 03:56:30 pdp7 lives on IRC! May 06 03:56:41 * jkridner never sees pdp7 here. May 06 03:56:55 * pdp7 always in the shadows of screen May 06 03:57:21 * jkridner doesn't think it could be a coincidence that as soon as he mentioned the board here it showed up on cnxsoft May 06 03:57:36 how long ago was the post? May 06 03:57:46 pdp7 is here? is twitter down? ;) May 06 03:58:42 :) May 06 03:59:09 ds2: any new blog posts? really like your one about using the correct interfaces May 06 03:59:29 pdp7: soon... paying work is taking too time May 06 03:59:40 jkridner: hmm, i saw it show up on cnx software in google plus and looked here on irc May 06 03:59:46 ds2: cool May 06 04:00:31 jkridner: i went to post about dorkbot-sf on google plus and saw the CNX software post and was like, woah, what is this May 06 04:01:01 * jkridner wonders if it was Raiz or a lurker. :-) May 06 04:02:00 dorkbot-sf? thought it was dorkbot-portland? May 06 04:03:57 there are lots of dorkbots... the SF meets on May-18th Wednesday before Maker Faire, so i'll be able to go :) May 06 04:04:27 ds2: http://dorkbotsf.org/ May 06 04:05:05 oh...thought that was the parent of oshpark May 06 04:07:02 oh, dorkbot pdx is the group where laen started the group PCB order May 06 04:07:38 back in ~2009... then in 2013, Laen created a company, OSH Park, and started doing the batch PCB order full-time May 06 04:07:56 (he used to be unix sysadmin at nike) May 06 04:08:08 ah May 06 04:08:21 * pdp7 still needs to visit PDX... hopefully June May 06 04:08:37 pdp7: just take the train up after MF May 06 04:09:04 yeah, thought about it... west coast tour :) May 06 04:10:06 then you can take the train home :D May 06 04:13:10 yikes... i used to work next to union station in chicago when I was at element14, sometimes i would stroll around at lunch through there and marvel that there was a train departing for emeryville May 06 04:14:49 get a satellite internet access and you can blog/work on the train May 06 04:15:17 :) May 06 04:15:50 * jkridner wonders if it was Raiz or a lurker. :-) << what's that? May 06 04:17:56 Raiz: the post on cnxsoft May 06 04:18:12 came right around the moment I shared the link with you. May 06 04:18:53 ah, just saw it May 06 04:19:02 jkridner: any bb-blue news yet?! :D May 06 04:19:26 if you held your breath since it was suppose to come out, you too would be very blue ;) May 06 04:20:09 ds2: I don't hold my breath .. I'd be dead more than 9 times by now .. May 06 04:20:18 this is what caught my eye on https://plus.google.com/110719562692786994119/posts/VGETTkWN2Zi May 06 04:20:19 jkridner, wow, that looks much better than the vanilla BBB May 06 04:20:43 ds2: https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/GWqtFu43 :) May 06 04:21:35 pdp7: the question is - does it work ;) May 06 04:22:14 pdp7: got something like that in the works May 06 04:22:50 all these BB? clones are just too big ;) May 06 04:25:25 would it be good for BE-Wear? May 06 04:26:04 yes that's what it is sized for May 06 04:26:51 :) May 06 04:28:06 pdp7: do you know how much of OSHpark's board is done for art? seems like a high precentatge from your posts May 06 04:28:40 oh, well, i think i post about a lot of those as they are fun for social media May 06 04:28:56 i'm always looking for interesting projects that customers have posted about May 06 04:28:58 oh is that all May 06 04:29:21 thought the majority of folks just run art ;) May 06 04:29:46 i really only have visibility into the shared projects https://oshpark.com/shared_projects and when people tweet at @oshpark (or facebook or google+) May 06 04:30:02 since I'm in chicago, I don't see the panels May 06 04:30:30 why would location matter? I assume the back end builds it all as gerbers anyways May 06 04:31:47 yeah, thought I don't see that images of the panels. the panelaziation is automated. the folks who are breaking apart the panels definately noticed interesting boards May 06 04:32:09 I see May 06 04:32:19 is the break apart done by hand? May 06 04:32:32 yup, about 3 people usually May 06 04:32:51 that explains the broken board I got :D May 06 04:33:35 broken? pleases email support@oshpark.com if you ever have problems. we are usually very fast to reply May 06 04:34:04 top layer got ripped off near the top... probally going to eat the loss. no time to remake it anyways May 06 04:34:21 s/top/tab/ May 06 04:34:28 darn... email and we will refund May 06 04:35:12 with the prices being offered, I'd feel bad about that... margins are probally pretty tight May 06 04:39:06 ds2: no need to feel bad, we really like to know when there is a problem and refund or remake depending on your preference May 06 04:39:33 jkridner: blue beagle?! May 06 04:39:56 veremit: yeah, heard ya.... nothin' ta say right now. May 06 04:40:10 jkridner: arighty .. no news is still kinda news :) ty May 06 04:40:12 pdp7: ok. I'll keep it in mind... I ordered 6 and I can probally keep that one for mechanical tests May 06 04:40:21 I'll be releasing the repo to beg for some extra help soon... new baby and trying to develop hardware don't mix. May 06 04:40:26 veremit: stop putting them in a plastic bag! May 06 04:40:42 jkridner: new human baby?! May 06 04:40:52 jkridner: awesome May 06 04:40:55 yeah, really eating into my productivity. May 06 04:41:04 awesome sauce. enjoy! May 06 04:41:19 pdp7: at least my MFBA.... when the some details are released publicly. May 06 04:41:28 jkridner: wait til someone emails a snippet of that log to the mom ;) May 06 04:41:39 kinda hard when items aren't documented publicly yet. May 06 04:41:48 ds2: :-) May 06 04:41:51 yeah May 06 04:41:54 she keeps good tabs on me. :) May 06 04:42:17 * jkridner looks around for rcn-ee May 06 04:42:27 yeah where IS rcn-ee May 06 04:42:33 he's been totally MIA for like AGES May 06 04:42:47 spring floods keeping him busy? ;) May 06 04:42:51 still killing it on e-mail.... guess that has him overwhelmed. May 06 04:43:07 although I think there's still code coming from his cpu's ... :) May 06 04:45:17 quick, get all the images moved back to Angstrom ;) May 06 04:46:31 ds2: hahaha May 06 04:47:32 i was actually looking for rcn-ee as I saw *the* Digi-Keyer on Adafruit Ask An Engineer :) May 06 04:47:39 when the cat is away, the mice will play May 06 04:48:25 pdp7: yeah interview to come ... May 06 04:48:49 they showed a pic of Limor with the CEO May 06 04:49:50 gal sure gets about, in between designing pcbs and test jigs May 06 04:51:36 here's the timestamp: //youtu.be/sv9HRthIzYU?t=1448 May 06 04:51:43 err http://youtu.be/sv9HRthIzYU?t=1448 May 06 04:52:30 that was an uber-packed edition .. phil was rattling through stuff May 06 04:52:51 yup May 06 04:53:12 * pdp7 loves Digi-Key May 06 04:53:13 although I do think they ought to do shorter vids May 06 04:53:30 normal USPS 1st class works great from Thief River Falls to Chicago May 06 04:53:36 the 'shows' are ok .. but I'm not sure everyone is good to sit through an hour May 06 04:53:53 Thief River Falls to UK works fine too May 06 04:53:57 veremit: yeah, they usually cut it up for certain segments... like new products May 06 04:54:05 :) May 06 04:54:58 and I did comment once that if they're gonna do a review of the 'Show 'n' Tell' they really need to throw some pics up .. needn't be video .. but just to show what Limor is actually describing May 06 04:55:13 but .. there's only a very narrow window between the two, so its near-on impossible to do May 06 04:55:33 yeah, i think the recap of show n tell could be ditched May 06 04:55:49 as one can just watch the actually show n tell recording May 06 04:56:07 definitely May 06 04:56:35 they're trying to do a weekly 'magazine' show .. which is cool .. but trying to do too much .. as today's show evidenced really. May 06 04:56:48 KISS imho. May 06 04:57:09 lovin the pseudo-random .. that works nicely May 06 04:59:03 yeah, that was a nice edition after becky left May 06 04:59:41 jkridner: you've never been on Ask An Engineer, right? May 06 04:59:51 nope. May 06 04:59:55 maybe this Maker Faire NYC :) May 06 05:00:04 that'd be cool May 06 05:00:22 need to get some cool beagle stuff together May 06 05:00:29 ya! May 06 05:00:30 wjem is the NY show? May 06 05:00:38 september i believe May 06 05:00:54 might have the early prototypes of a blue and maybe an x15 .. May 06 05:04:34 pdp7: its funny how excited phil gets about Limor having done her ham license lol May 06 05:05:02 but its great she's actually highlighting it May 06 05:07:23 pdp7: going back to distribution .. tis amazing I can get products within 48h from Mansfield, Tx too :D May 06 05:11:07 mouser? :) May 06 05:11:46 mhmm May 06 05:11:57 I like that adafruit are one of the few ppl making a proto cape for the BBB May 06 05:11:59 pdp7: aren't there cinco de mayo celebrations near where you are? May 06 05:12:11 gawd is it still may 5th somewhere? May 06 05:15:57 well, i did have corona earlier :) May 06 05:19:15 aren't there cars with big flags buzzing you all day long? May 06 05:24:20 did not actually see too much today May 06 05:24:46 lol May 06 05:24:58 puerto rico day is bigger event in my neighborhood May 06 05:43:20 hi,I want to use qt5,qtserialport with beagleboneblack and 7" touchscreen(4DCAPE-70T) May 06 05:43:35 which system can be useable for this May 06 05:44:20 my host machine is ubuntu May 06 05:44:46 Checking the Debian repos: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/qt5-default May 06 05:45:07 The Jessie repo on http://beagleboard.org/latest-images might be a good start. May 06 05:45:40 https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libqt5serialport5-dev May 06 05:45:51 seems Jessie has both of those already built. May 06 05:48:10 I'm surprised I don't seem to see the 4DCAPE-70T on https://github.com/beagleboard/bb.org-overlays/tree/master/src/arm May 06 05:56:04 well, lots of reports of it working. Guess I'm just missing it. May 06 05:57:14 Please note: some EEPROM content refers to the May 06 05:57:14 LCD7 00A3 which is made by CircuitCo. This is the May 06 05:57:14 case due to how the BBB identifies the CAPE and May 06 05:57:16 what drivers to apply to it. Since the 4DCAPE-70T May 06 05:57:18 utilises the LCD7 drivers, this must be the case. May 06 05:57:20 Ah: ^^^^^ May 06 05:57:33 That's from http://www.4dsystems.com.au/productpages/4DCAPE-70T/downloads/4DCAPE-70T_datasheet_R_1_3.pdf May 06 05:57:47 so, there isn't a special overlay for it since they just used an existing identifier. May 06 05:58:11 straight-forward enough. May 06 05:58:30 so, hhe, that software image should work fine for you. May 06 09:01:10 hi May 06 09:14:50 yo May 06 10:36:40 what do the S2 button on the BBB do ? May 06 10:36:58 can I use it to boot over the network ? May 06 10:40:16 it changes SYS_BOOT order May 06 10:43:11 IIRC it should be mentioned in the SRM May 06 10:43:18 tbr: okay, so what the new boot order becomes ? May 06 10:43:30 okay. May 06 10:44:58 SRM chapter 8.3.1 May 06 10:45:12 the resulting boot order is explained in the AM335x TRM May 06 11:01:46 is there anyone bbb with qt5 and touch 7" lcd May 06 11:01:55 using? May 06 11:02:53 I am following now http://www.embarcados.com.br/beaglebone-black-qt5-yocto-parte-1/ May 06 11:07:53 I am using qt5 on my host pc May 06 11:08:56 I am using qtserialport and reading and writing data to serial May 06 11:09:28 I am comminucation with some board. May 06 11:09:46 but I am not using this app for bbb ? May 06 14:51:00 Hi May 06 14:51:29 I had 1 question about using BeagleBoard May 06 14:51:49 if we can use C# as programming language and run windows on it? May 06 14:51:55 can anyone help? May 06 17:27:25 where I can find what each pin is for in the BBB serial debug header? May 06 17:30:45 u could search beaglebone schematics probs May 06 17:31:06 it's so huge, I can't understand what's there :/ May 06 17:31:41 some modern schematics are interactive but for the most part this is typical of good systems May 06 17:33:52 wait are you talking about the uart or jtag? May 06 17:34:17 the serial debug header... May 06 17:39:49 pin 1 is ground May 06 17:39:58 pin 4 is RX May 06 17:40:01 Pin 5 is TX May 06 17:40:33 RX is data- and TX is data+, right? May 06 17:40:50 Uhhhh....not sure. May 06 17:40:53 http://blog.tonywall.co/2013/11/beaglebone-black-serial-debug-connection/ May 06 17:41:09 Probably not. It should be TTL. May 06 17:41:32 different names cause confusion :P May 06 17:41:46 http://dave.cheney.net/2013/09/22/two-point-five-ways-to-access-the-serial-console-on-your-beaglebone-black May 06 17:41:48 Tx/Rx are gnd for 0 and Vcc for 1. It's not RS232 / differential 12v. May 07 00:17:28 Hi May 07 00:17:44 Who on **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 07 02:59:58 2016