**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jan 07 03:00:02 2017 Jan 07 03:04:58 Seriously cloud9 ... I never considered using it for anything. Then again I was ".js is embedded what?" I had no clue people thought using javascript on a beagle board was learning embedded code. I suppose use what works but seemed excessively lazy too me. Jan 07 03:05:01 Hi there, I'm having some trouble getting drivers installed on Win 10 Jan 07 03:05:22 Anybody mind helping out a newbie? Jan 07 03:05:40 Drivers for what? Jan 07 03:05:50 A Beaglebone Black Jan 07 03:06:05 The beagle board virtual network driver via the USB OTG port? Jan 07 03:06:44 Seems that way - I'm walking through the first steps of the start.htm file included in the FAT partition of the brand new board I just got today. Jan 07 03:07:10 In those steps it provides a link to download drivers, when I download them and attempt to run them, I get a series of installation failures. Jan 07 03:07:59 When I attempt to move on to the next step in the start.htm file (connecting to the IP address of the board), it doesn't work. Jan 07 03:08:37 yeah... let me "beagleboard.org" that and see where it is. Jan 07 03:08:54 GenTooMan: you using gentoo on ya b* ? Jan 07 03:09:04 ^ I don't see ya on #gentoo-embedded ?! :P Jan 07 03:09:48 Not sure if it's actually on the website...the file is internal to the board FAT partition that automatically loaded when I hooked it up to my computer. Jan 07 03:19:55 Caimo: as a usb device it presents itself as: a mass-storage device containing the windows driver and stuff, a serial device for a console, and a network device (RNDIS) Jan 07 03:20:40 even though serial devices are a standard usb class, and RNDIS is in fact microsoft's own invention, windows still needs a "driver" that consists of nothing but a text file telling windows to use its own built-in drivers Jan 07 03:21:02 and since windows 10 is very fussy about making sure that text file is properly signed Jan 07 03:21:40 microsoft wouldn't want to risk accidently using their own drivers after all Jan 07 03:21:43 :P Jan 07 03:23:10 note that you can also hook up the bbb to a local network via ethernet and reach it that way instead of via usb Jan 07 03:23:30 but this whole mess is still stupid, if you plug it into a linux machine it just works Jan 07 09:34:25 Hi, I would like to add another usb gadget to my BBB. creating '/sys/kernel/config/usb_gadget/g_new' works w/o issues, also setting up the config files. But in the end activating the device be writing 'musb-hdrc.0.auto' to 'UDC' does not work. Jan 07 09:35:22 I only get an 'Operation not permitted'. On the other hand I also cannot deactivate the 'g_multi' gadget by writing "" to its UDC. Jan 07 09:35:32 Same issue.. Jan 07 09:35:50 if I'd need to guess: somethin is in use Jan 07 09:36:27 How can I determine what is blocking me from writing to the UDC files ? (deleting them does not work as well) Jan 07 09:37:04 are you using the USB connection right now? Jan 07 09:37:57 no, nothing is connected to usb0 Jan 07 09:38:33 no immediate idea then, sorry Jan 07 09:39:46 unloading usb_f_rndis, usb_f_acm and usb_f_mass_storage did not help as well Jan 07 10:33:30 OK, looks like activating an usb_gadet can only be done once... Jan 07 10:34:31 as soon as I have activated any usb_gadget with 'sudo echo "musb-hdrc.0.auto" > UDC' I can't disable it anymore or activate other USB gadgets... Jan 07 10:35:01 Will live with that... and disable the corresponding line in the am335x_evm.sh file Jan 07 14:29:25 vermet I'm not on gentoo embeded I am on gentoo however and good day peoples. Jan 07 15:58:42 Hi Jan 07 15:58:59 anyone can help my about the BBB gpio setup? Jan 07 15:59:24 I would like use LCD's GPIO like Output Jan 07 17:25:02 wstudio: you can, just disable hdmi (see /boot/uEnv.txt) and the pins will in fact default to gpio Jan 07 19:24:16 question about the debian builds...what's the difference between the "iot" the "blank-iot" and the "lxqt" builds Jan 07 19:59:40 jkridner, is there an ETA for the Beaglebone Blue? Jan 07 20:38:39 (a secret known only to those who stick around after asking a question) Jan 07 20:40:22 zmatt, screw you; some people shut down their computers, and for good reason. Jan 07 21:54:02 Such unwarranted hostility. Jan 07 22:11:14 puzzles: sorry, I see way too many questions go unanswered because the person asking the question has left already... but I'm not actually blaming them since there's nothing informing them on how to "use" this channel ( http://bbb.io/chat has no info, just broken links ) Jan 07 22:13:40 zmatt: I was referring to the "screw you" response. Jan 07 22:14:06 I didn't see one Jan 07 22:21:13 puzzles, the hostility was indeed warranted. Jan 07 22:21:53 now this is some fine electrical engineering... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1WnSg4XEAErruV.jpg Jan 07 22:37:11 what could possibly go wrong? Jan 07 23:00:54 jkridner: ping? Jan 08 01:09:57 anyone have any idea why Debian's linux-image-4.8.0-2 kernel won't boot on my BeagleBone Green? Jan 08 01:10:10 u-boot says "Starting kernel ... Jan 08 01:10:12 " Jan 08 01:10:16 and then does nothing :-/ Jan 08 01:12:13 https://paste.debian.net/907502/ Jan 08 01:14:45 also, the u-boot seems to be the version on NAND, rather than the u-boot installed on the SD card Jan 08 01:15:56 which seems to be odd in itself; the README.Debian for u-boot-omap says to dd MLO and u-boot.img to the SD card but all the omap documentation says to put them in a FAT partition Jan 08 01:16:23 I've done both but the u-boot.img I've installed isn't the one that's booting Jan 08 01:16:59 I know this because I ran strings on the binary and the version numbers don't match what's being printed on the serial console Jan 08 01:17:21 how do I get the machine to load u-boot from the SD card? Jan 08 01:57:08 rah: hold the S2 button while powering on Jan 08 01:57:14 this removes eMMC from the boot order Jan 08 01:57:34 otherwise eMMC comes before uSD in the boot order, hence it will boot (u-boot) from eMMC Jan 08 01:58:17 the standard boot script for u-boot may then proceed to boot linux from the uSD card in preference to eMMC, which is why you get the impression it prefers uSD over eMMC Jan 08 01:58:30 but for the first stage it's definitely the other way around Jan 08 01:59:29 note that the boot mode (which the S2 button influences) is only sampled at power-on, and the resulting boot preferences remain in effect until next power on Jan 08 02:00:42 when booting from uSD or eMMC either "raw mmc" or a FAT partition can be used for storing the MLO Jan 08 02:01:00 if both are present, raw mmc boot is preferred and the FAT partition is ignored Jan 08 02:01:40 standard beaglebone images have used raw mmc boot instead of a FAT boot partition for a long time now Jan 08 02:11:46 I see Jan 08 02:13:44 on the bright side, I think that the SPL loading the wrong u-boot is no longer a thing nowadays... I think ;) Jan 08 02:15:42 but hold on, what kernel and u-boot are you trying to use? Jan 08 02:15:55 " which seems to be odd in itself; the README.Debian for u-boot-omap ..." Jan 08 02:16:00 beaglebones do not have an OMAP Jan 08 02:17:24 and while I think a mainline kernel should run, actually doing so is quite rare Jan 08 02:20:04 needless to say, a kernel built to be multiplatform probably contains a ton of unnecessary crap Jan 08 02:20:38 although I think the armmp kernel *ought* to work Jan 08 02:21:10 then again no TI SoC is listed here: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel/ARMMP Jan 08 02:41:08 zmatt: well, it's "omap and related platforms" Jan 08 02:41:31 in this case, /usr/lib/u-boot/am335x_boneblack/u-boot.img Jan 08 02:41:52 except, again, it isn't running that u-boot Jan 08 02:42:15 for reasons stated above Jan 08 02:42:44 $ dpkg -L linux-image-4.8.0-2-armmp | grep bonegreen Jan 08 02:42:44 /usr/lib/linux-image-4.8.0-2-armmp/am335x-bonegreen.dtb Jan 08 02:43:16 you can find the official u-boot images for the beaglebone family here btw -> https://rcn-ee.com/repos/bootloader/am335x_boneblack/ Jan 08 02:43:18 the wiki is probably well out of date Jan 08 02:43:41 zmatt: I'd rather used mainline stuff Jan 08 02:44:14 maybe, maybe not. I don't really recall having previously seen people use that particular kernel on beaglebones Jan 08 02:44:49 no, there's no ambiguity about it: I'd definitely rather use mainline stuff :-) Jan 08 02:44:59 03:43 < rah> the wiki is probably well out of date Jan 08 02:45:01 referring to that Jan 08 02:45:05 oh I see :-) Jan 08 02:45:55 I'm working with testing (Stretch) rather than stable (Jessie) Jan 08 02:46:15 I also use stretch Jan 08 02:47:19 but you don't have linux-image-4.8.0-2-armmp? Jan 08 02:48:39 I have no incentive to even *try* a mainline kernel, I use a custom built kernel based on the 4.9-bone series currently and my userspace environment depends on several of the patches in the -bone series Jan 08 02:48:58 I also care a lot about boot time and bloat reduction Jan 08 02:49:06 I see Jan 08 02:51:07 note that debian kernels are typically also not mainline Jan 08 02:51:15 afaik Jan 08 02:51:22 aye Jan 08 02:51:40 I mean "upstream" really (i.e. official Debian :-) Jan 08 02:52:09 can one chainload u-boot on the SD from the eMMC's u-boot? Jan 08 02:52:12 I don't have a great deal of care for debian specifically... it's just default and I happen to know it well Jan 08 02:52:29 no idea, sounds like an odd thing to do Jan 08 02:53:25 well, I'd hate to be accused of being normal :-) Jan 08 02:53:50 just use the S2 button to override the boot order, and when you have things working replace or wipe u-boot on the eMMC **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jan 08 03:00:00 2017