**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 28 03:00:01 2017 Feb 28 03:18:43 Moving slow? Me too! Feb 28 03:19:15 How can I find a .h file? Feb 28 03:20:14 i.e. on Debian on my BBB? Feb 28 03:20:47 I used find, I used info, and I used man pages. I came up empty. Feb 28 03:30:10 I just tried find -L and I came up with a bunch of .h files. Feb 28 03:48:48 Why do we not have locate as an agruement? Feb 28 03:49:40 Fat Tue. is right around the corner. Mardi Gras and BBB! Feb 28 03:51:29 Hey! I made a circling bot that mows grass out of the BBG and MBC. Feb 28 03:51:55 The darn wheel fell off and then my battery died. Damn! Feb 28 03:52:33 So...ver: Why do we not have locate on the BBB/BBG? Feb 28 03:53:34 huh... TIL about Fat Tuesday Feb 28 03:53:47 what is MBC? Feb 28 03:53:52 Motor Bridge Cape! Feb 28 03:54:07 from Seeed Studio Feb 28 03:54:20 It gives me bot pleasure! Feb 28 03:54:32 oooh, my friend would be interested in that! Feb 28 03:54:37 Oh. Feb 28 03:54:51 He/She will like it. It is fun to make things go, go, and go. Feb 28 03:55:10 You can control servos, steppers, and dc motors. Feb 28 03:55:30 I'm here trying to get some info on how to get my beaglebone black wireless to load the desktop to let me configure wireless/ssh.. when it boots it has a blinking cursor and nothing else :( Feb 28 03:56:04 Infrin: odd... should come to an LXQT GUI. Feb 28 03:56:20 Set_: just wait for the BBB-blue .. Feb 28 03:56:26 Otay! Feb 28 03:56:38 jkridner: back in the office/home again ;P Feb 28 03:56:50 indeed. Feb 28 03:57:02 It did load it once but ever since it has not. I tried changing the network interface file and then reboot and now the desktop no longer loads Feb 28 03:57:13 Noooo! Feb 28 03:58:01 Infrin: change what you desire. If all else fails, put a new image in. Feb 28 03:58:03 Infrin: can you connect via USB? Feb 28 03:58:13 +1 to new image. Feb 28 03:58:32 Yep! Feb 28 03:58:33 I flashed it to the newest image with no change. I can connect to it via USB on Windows Feb 28 03:58:49 Debian 8.6 2016-11-06 4GB SD LXQT Feb 28 03:58:59 Newer! Feb 28 03:59:21 They have 02/2017 images. Feb 28 03:59:56 2017-02 .. wow thats burning hot Feb 28 04:00:02 I don't see it on http://beagleboard.org/latest-images/ Feb 28 04:00:05 rcn-ee ftw Feb 28 04:00:30 http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian Feb 28 04:00:43 jkridner: time to update the web page again ;P Feb 28 04:01:18 I found that on the "latest-image" part to the site, there is a "more info" section. Click it! Feb 28 04:01:27 ver|laptop: if I can get another well-validated image.... might pick last week's for a few reasons. Feb 28 04:01:57 ok thanks, I am downloading now! Feb 28 04:02:02 jkridner: it might be handy to have it tethered to a 'latest-image' symlink and update that instead Feb 28 04:02:15 or get Rob to ;) Feb 28 04:02:43 it can pull the build date from a text file or some-such :D Feb 28 04:02:54 Infrin: I have 2017-1-15. Feb 28 04:03:12 This seems to be one of the few images that accept the MBC. Feb 28 04:03:38 ok time to tickle the desktop .. brb! Feb 28 04:04:45 So, what are the BBB.org people doing for Fat Tue? Feb 28 04:07:25 ... Feb 28 04:07:32 Well i Feb 28 04:07:45 am working and going to school :( Feb 28 04:07:50 Cool! Feb 28 04:07:58 Oh...not cool! Feb 28 04:08:08 lol Feb 28 04:08:08 Why did you pick up the BBB? Feb 28 04:08:48 Serious...no tension. I just wanted to ask. Feb 28 04:09:16 well I've played with the arduino and raspberry pi. I have an industrial electronics class and we have a project of our choosing to do and I have seen the beaglebone for a while now so I was like: "a project using the beaglebone! Of course! My wife won't hate me if its for school!!" Feb 28 04:09:38 Infrin: +1 Feb 28 04:09:49 That is better than my reason. I hated yard hand duty. Feb 28 04:10:27 I kept messing with machines that were just off by a hair and I knew of now way to fix them. Feb 28 04:11:05 I am excited to see what projects I can come up with for my beaglebone! Even if it just mowing my lawn ;) Feb 28 04:11:15 I thought...if I can figure out the BBB, this would be a good background around Linux, cool hardware, and the people have done a lot for opensource. Feb 28 04:11:18 Yea! Feb 28 04:11:21 Mow! Feb 28 04:12:06 I can do all sorts of stuff. They have some older books for the BBB. I tried to make a trip wire that notifies me when someone enters my house. Feb 28 04:12:08 Of course though, I live in an apartment so I won't get very far. But then again, my iguana needs a motorcycle so ... :D Feb 28 04:12:47 I can make it say, "You have a robber. Call Susan!" Feb 28 04:14:06 ...then the e-mail tells me how long my door has been open. Feb 28 04:14:17 Four seconds or so on. Feb 28 04:15:05 Our school has robot competitions based off some American robotics competition. Anyways, I was working with a friend to build a few and we did really well but we used sensors like color and distance sensors. I want our next one to use a webcam to figure out where it is going Feb 28 04:16:00 That would cool. You could put an RFID chip in your shoes so that if the door opens and it doesn't detect your shoe then it'll flag it Feb 28 04:16:14 They have software for that stuff. Um...it is called Sphinx or something. Feb 28 04:16:44 MIT used to publish it. Feb 28 04:17:10 interesting Feb 28 04:17:20 It can do voice recognition or video layouts. I forget which. Feb 28 04:17:38 Be back in a jiff. I will look it up. PocketSphinx. Feb 28 04:20:00 Sphinx and PocketSphinx are only voice recognition softwares. Feb 28 04:20:08 Sorry. Feb 28 04:21:38 ...I got mixed up. Feb 28 04:24:22 still neat Feb 28 04:24:55 so what is your plan for fat tue? Feb 28 04:28:00 Sit, learn, and not go to parades. Feb 28 04:29:16 I grew out of parades. I did find a Mini Maker Faire recently in Baton Rouge, LA. Feb 28 04:29:52 I am waiting to see another show up soon. I missed that one. It was at a library and not in outdoors where we could shred and rip things up. Feb 28 04:31:17 Infrin: did you get your board back up for a GUI? Feb 28 04:31:42 cool. we don't get anything cool around here but I think that'll change in the next few years because now we are starting to have robotics club Feb 28 04:32:04 I am working on it. I downloaded the image and am putting it on a microsd as we speak Feb 28 04:32:54 Oh...okay. It should work. I have done all sorts of things to the software and reinstalled an image. Things were back to normal. Feb 28 04:33:09 I once even burnt my board. I think it is called bricked. Feb 28 04:33:27 I added too much power like a goof. Feb 28 04:34:19 it appears to be flashing now Feb 28 04:34:32 Did you go with the flasher or standalone? Feb 28 04:34:39 flasher Feb 28 04:35:09 That is usually what I do. I found a way to add more memory by using the SD Card but I failed to figure it out. Dang! Feb 28 04:36:04 I followed along in some book and my board was not well accepting of the theory. Feb 28 04:36:44 hmmm.. it may not be flashing Feb 28 04:36:56 Infrin: Is it going back and forth? Feb 28 04:37:08 Excuse me...are the LEDs going back and forth? Feb 28 04:38:06 I think the LEDs are supposed to go back and forth until they all light up and then the machine powers down. Then, done! Feb 28 04:38:53 not that time, it was just the USR0 Feb 28 04:39:13 Hmm...did you format your SD Card? Feb 28 04:40:29 blah... got to start on my slides Feb 28 04:41:43 I am trying the Etcher linked on the webpage this time Feb 28 04:42:47 Do you have a 2GB or 4GB? Feb 28 04:42:58 https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/testing/2017-02-12/lxqt-4gb/BBB-blank-debian-8.7-lxqt-4gb-armhf-2017-02-12-4gb.img.xz Feb 28 04:43:26 64gb microsd Feb 28 04:43:46 yeah that is the image i grabbed Feb 28 04:43:46 Oh...the BBB is 4 or 2GB? Feb 28 04:44:09 its the 4gb. it is the beaglebone black wireless Feb 28 04:44:13 the old BBB is 2Gb Feb 28 04:44:20 the revC is 4Gb EMMC Feb 28 04:44:35 I always have to format my sd Card before getting the image. Feb 28 04:44:49 That is why I started with a smaller SD Card. Feb 28 04:46:42 I have a BBGW and I had to format my SD Card. This could be the issue. You may be stuck with an old system that cannot be updated due to not formatting your SD Card. Feb 28 04:47:18 ... Feb 28 04:47:31 As odd as that sounds, there is some real science behind it. Feb 28 04:47:52 Otay! Feb 28 04:47:57 Be back in a jiff. Feb 28 05:01:58 The jiff starts now. Feb 28 05:19:55 my beaglebone is flashing now :D Feb 28 05:22:36 Cool! Feb 28 05:23:01 It may be a miracle in the making. Feb 28 05:24:23 grrr.. forgot to remove the microsd card.. flashing #2 Feb 28 05:25:22 Yea boy! Sometimes it takes two to tango! Feb 28 05:32:05 *crosses fingers* Feb 28 05:33:39 woot Feb 28 05:33:46 It works!! Feb 28 05:33:46 vagina ladie boys Feb 28 05:40:01 Cool mate! Feb 28 05:40:38 I was reading up on the PRUs. Do I have to program them in assembly language? Feb 28 05:46:18 You guys have a good night, it was great talking with you! Feb 28 05:46:22 Thanks for everything Feb 28 05:47:31 :] Feb 28 05:47:45 Set_: there's a C compiler iirc Feb 28 05:50:33 Infrin: Later for now! Feb 28 05:50:43 iirc? Feb 28 05:50:47 I have not heard of that... Feb 28 05:51:02 Onto looking up iirc. Feb 28 05:52:39 bloodshed? Feb 28 05:53:01 That is what I used in "da skool!" Feb 28 05:56:21 Okay. Feb 28 05:56:23 Got it. Feb 28 14:53:24 Would anyone here have contact information for San Cloud beyond the contact page on their website? Feb 28 14:54:44 I've sent a couple emails from their page but have not gotten a response. I've checked the box that would send a copy to myself but haven't gotten one of those back either, thinking the page not be working properly. Feb 28 15:06:13 lynxlabeling: they don't have a phone contact there? they're a well-established company ... Feb 28 15:23:49 I'm trying to get the pru's going under a fresh iot-8.6 image. pru_rproc is loaded, as well as the uio_pruss_enable overlay. When I run dmesg, I see no pru_rproc messages. Feb 28 15:24:18 I assume I'm missing something simple. Feb 28 15:51:21 veremit: I can't seem to find any contact for them beyond that page. I'd like to have a phone contact. They don't show up on google maps either. Feb 28 15:53:08 lynxlabeling: hrm .. I See your point .. googling .. :) Feb 28 15:57:34 lynxlabeling: they're a slippery bunch .. but the company info is at https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08154061 Feb 28 15:57:46 so that's an address at least! Feb 28 16:01:42 hth a bit Feb 28 16:19:20 scottlangendyk: uio_pruss and pru_proc is are two different, incompatible, ways of using pru Feb 28 16:31:10 zmatt: I'm not using the uio driver, just this overlay https://github.com/beagleboard/bb.org-overlays/blob/master/src/arm/uio_pruss_enable-00A0.dts Feb 28 16:32:01 unless that actually does more than just enabling the prus Feb 28 16:33:02 it sets them up for use via uio Feb 28 16:33:17 it shouldn't be used if you want to use remoteproc-pru Feb 28 16:33:50 how do I set them up for rproc usage then? Feb 28 16:34:04 veremit: Thanks for the help. Looked up the address on google street view earlier. Not much to see. Guessing they'd rather not be found, lol Feb 28 16:34:17 lynxlabeling: where you based? Feb 28 16:35:04 scottlangendyk: no idea :) Feb 28 16:35:16 scottlangendyk: I've never used remoteproc-pru myself Feb 28 16:35:23 Kentucky, USA Feb 28 16:35:48 zmatt: fair enough! I had this working once before, I just don't remember what I did Feb 28 16:36:06 I can relate to SanCloud, can't find much on my company either, lol Feb 28 16:36:24 lynxlabeling: sometimes there's good and bad reasons for that :D Feb 28 16:36:32 Yep Feb 28 16:36:41 lynxlabeling: what was it you were looking for specifically? Feb 28 16:40:30 I know my boass was able to contact them by email Feb 28 16:40:34 *boss Feb 28 16:43:01 zmatt: sancloud or another? Feb 28 16:43:34 veremit: well, I'm interested in the progress of their advanced board. I'm wanting to do something similar but would be open to a business arrangement with them if they were up for it. Feb 28 16:44:23 there always seems to be difficulty in getting collaborations going, sadly. Feb 28 16:44:32 I sent them another email earlier but what's odd is I don't get one to my email although I check the box. Makes me think something might be broken. They could just be busy too or uninterested. Feb 28 16:44:34 At least C-Co arent the only board-makers now though. Feb 28 16:44:49 jkridner: you alive over there? Feb 28 16:44:57 ? Feb 28 16:45:09 jkridner: do you have any contacts at sancloud? Feb 28 16:45:12 C-Co aren't even making boards, AFIK Feb 28 16:45:17 AFAIK Feb 28 16:45:24 veremit: yeah, I have contacts there. Feb 28 16:45:26 jkridner: yes, the other company took over productino I see ;) happy days :D Feb 28 16:45:43 veremit: sancloud yes Feb 28 16:45:44 lynxlabeling: jkridner is the TI apps engineer, am I right? Feb 28 16:45:59 sorta? :) Feb 28 16:46:39 veremit: he got pricing on the BBE Feb 28 16:47:11 they also do variants for other parties, so e.g. you can get a version with less ram or such if you want to save money Feb 28 16:47:15 zmatt: jkridner: perhaps you can share some info with lynxlabeling here? Feb 28 16:47:25 or in PM :D Feb 28 16:47:32 I don't have the contact info, I'd need to ask my boss Feb 28 16:49:59 lynxlabeling: what do you need? sorry the scrollback is a bit long and not completely obvious. Feb 28 16:52:49 jkridner: I'm looking for more information on the advanced board they're working on. I'm wanting to design and build something similar to what they're producing. It appears they're going to be open source about it but I don't want to take their files and run necessarily... Feb 28 16:53:06 veremit: I am a TI apps engineer and also a board member at BeagleBoard.org (only board member who is a TI employee) Feb 28 16:53:25 I'm green to the subject but I like what they're trying to accomplish Feb 28 16:53:32 jkridner: score! :D Feb 28 16:53:34 lynxlabeling: DM me your e-mail and I'll send an intro email to Marc at SanCloud. Feb 28 16:53:56 lynxlabeling: he's posted on the Google Group a few times, but I'll spare you the lookup. Feb 28 16:59:07 jkridner: whilst you're here .. did you say there was a way of pre-reg for blue boards? or demos or the first test batch? Feb 28 16:59:31 got a community group I've just got involved in Feb 28 16:59:55 aka a 'tech jam' .. trying to break the Pi/x86_64 mould :D Feb 28 17:00:19 @jkridner: Just sent you my contact info. Thanks for the help. Feb 28 17:01:02 veremit: you can sign up on the notification list at http://beagleboard.org/blue. Feb 28 17:01:14 jkridner: perfect, thanks! Feb 28 17:35:59 fouric: btw, you can of course try asking #openocd for advice on a baremetal workflow with gdb, I'm pretty sure there are more people doing a similar thing Feb 28 17:37:04 jkridner: tried to register for blue notifications .. no confirmation email :/ Feb 28 17:37:17 * veremit stabs the internet with a rusty fork .. Feb 28 17:38:22 jkridner: scratch that .. 2nd time lucky Feb 28 17:38:49 jinx .. two at once lmao! Feb 28 17:38:56 meanwhile, if the internet dies of an infection, we know who to blame :P Feb 28 17:39:09 zmatt: the kids DDoS'ing Fb .. :p Feb 28 17:51:49 * zmatt gropes around searching for awakeness Feb 28 17:51:53 * zmatt finds some and consumes it Feb 28 17:57:51 zmatt: high quality swiss chocolate with 90% or more? Feb 28 17:58:46 ew Feb 28 17:59:18 while self-torture would probably help to wake up, I don't feel it's quite necessary Feb 28 17:59:47 how dare you, calling swiss chocolate torture! Feb 28 17:59:56 any 90% chocolate Feb 28 18:00:07 there is good one out there Feb 28 18:00:11 but it's rare Feb 28 18:00:20 ... isn't chocolate. sugar is a pretty essential ingredient of chocolate Feb 28 18:00:25 hehe Feb 28 18:00:45 zmatt: if you ever come to one of the conferences i'm at, i'll treat you some swiss chocolate :) Feb 28 18:01:03 zmatt: milk chocolate too, if you prefere Feb 28 18:07:39 assuming we manage to notice and coordinate ;) Feb 28 18:07:47 I'm not often at conferences though Feb 28 18:10:50 dear youtube, why are you recommending me a video I've already watched... (and you even *know* I've already watched it) Feb 28 19:04:20 zmatt: you should come to fosdem... it's even close! :-) Feb 28 19:04:33 zmatt: and finding me is easy: just follow the smell of delicious chocolate! Feb 28 19:04:38 lol Feb 28 19:09:31 KotH: were you lurking at fosdem? where?!?! Feb 28 19:10:18 KotH: did you go to any of the embedded stuff,, was it any good .. I was locked out of most of the smaller room stuff .. *** small seminar rooms .. :/ Feb 28 19:24:49 veremit: on saturday i was mostly walking around and talking to people, as there wasnt anything interesting... on su i spend the day in the eda dev room Feb 28 19:25:50 ah it was mostly the reverse for me .. I stuck with the Gentoo folks on Sunday as was bored. Feb 28 19:25:58 Anything good in the EDA room? Feb 28 19:26:57 jupp.. was interesting Feb 28 19:27:07 though, i mostly went there to talk to a couple of people :) Feb 28 19:27:26 cool. Mar 01 00:27:52 What is the call in rc.local if I am using a universal dts file that configures all the pins on the BB for a cape I am designing. Mar 01 00:29:45 Is it echo univ-cape > /sys/devices/cape_mngr*.?/slots? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 01 03:00:02 2017