**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 30 03:00:04 2017 Jun 30 06:37:57 i wish ccs was not an eclipse-based IDE :( Jun 30 06:38:35 things would be so so so much better if it was based on jetbrain's IDE software Jun 30 06:38:42 clion or whatever would best fit Jun 30 06:41:42 -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kQMDSw3Aqo Jun 30 06:44:58 no. Jun 30 06:52:04 absolutely. if it was jetbrains, then in 5 yrs somebody would say "i wish it was not jetbrains, things would be so much better if it was fancysoft based. fside or whatever would best fit" Jun 30 06:52:39 in the end its just a texteditor and some gizmos to handle toolchain. Jun 30 06:59:48 for the record: ccs moved to eclipse in 2006, clion did not appear until 2014(beta!)/2015(release). Jun 30 07:06:00 for the record i am an incorrigible anarchronism that will still do as much as i can in vim Jun 30 07:06:03 but when it comes to like Jun 30 07:06:10 online USB/jtag debuggers Jun 30 07:06:33 and all the complicated toolchains/cross compilers/etc invovled in embedded development Jun 30 07:06:47 even someone like me understands that a blinking cursor isn't the best approach Jun 30 07:06:56 eclipse is bad software Jun 30 07:06:59 it always was Jun 30 07:07:18 feel free to use whatever you like. i just wanted to point out that all this "things would be so much better if $THISOLDTHING was based on $THISNEWTHING" is totally moot. Jun 30 07:07:53 and eclipse has valid usecases. its just not necessarily *your* particular ones. :) Jun 30 07:14:01 no, eclipse is objectively terrible software Jun 30 09:15:47 kremlin: equally "nice" is the choice of javascript for their debug server scripting Jun 30 09:16:06 it's really awesome to get an address displayed to you in floating-point format Jun 30 09:16:28 and no support for 64-bit integers Jun 30 09:17:29 wow, they couldn't have picked two things farther apart from each other Jun 30 09:18:35 and for complicated toolchains and cross-compilers I actually find IDEs like eclipse far worse than a handwritten makefile Jun 30 09:18:52 they make the build process horrible untransparent Jun 30 09:18:55 *horribly Jun 30 09:18:59 toolchains and xcompilers i can manage Jun 30 09:19:02 with makefiles/etc Jun 30 09:19:11 but the online jtag debugging and stuff? Jun 30 09:19:17 i dunno Jun 30 09:19:26 I didn't react to that part Jun 30 09:19:45 i'm either not good enough yet to greybeard it or its just not a problem that is reasonably solved with the old good stuff Jun 30 09:19:45 (since jtag debugging is pretty much the only reason for which I ever open CCS voluntarily) Jun 30 09:19:50 yeah, same Jun 30 09:20:05 but I disagreed with your 09:06 < kremlin> and all the complicated toolchains/cross compilers/etc invovled in embedded development Jun 30 09:20:27 i mean i concede with xcompilers/toolchains Jun 30 12:12:31 hi I want to disable HDMI to reduce energy consumption. how can I do Jun 30 12:14:01 hi I want to disable HDMI to reduce energy consumption. how can I do Jun 30 12:19:28 inf_: you can disable HDMI in /boot/uEnv.txt (the exact change to make depends a bit on how old or recent image you're using) Jun 30 12:19:43 then power off and on again and HDMI will be disabled (reboot does not suffice) Jun 30 13:35:54 hello. so i have a board with an AM3358 chip on it, it has a connector for the USB port, but it doesnt have a slot for SD cards. i found this tool called uniflash and read that it should be possible to flash sitara chips via USB, but i dont know what data the Uniflash tool needs to do that. Jun 30 13:36:09 is there a well documented step by step tutorial? Jun 30 13:42:12 https://pastebin.com/x5QzB18E Jun 30 13:42:25 (not related to uniflash, but it does work to flash via usb) Jun 30 13:45:02 hello Jun 30 13:45:32 i am not quite sure i understand. it says i need to bring it back up three times during the procedure? Jun 30 13:45:33 i am having an issue with turning on the wifi capabillities of a BeagleBone Black Jun 30 13:46:12 i am trying to start it without the connman and when I use ifup, i do not get DHCPOFFERS Jun 30 13:47:56 i have added all the information needed for the if up Jun 30 13:48:06 in a seperate folder which interfaces loads Jun 30 13:48:23 DhcpDiscovers are sent Jun 30 13:48:30 but nothing after that Jun 30 13:50:02 also not sure where i get the data from. i found a file called MLO and u-boot.img on my beaglebone. do those work? Jun 30 13:54:54 i read something about a SDK somewhere that supposedly should have all the stuff the flashing process needs, but i only found a version for linux 64 bit and i dont have any such machine here. Jun 30 13:59:25 oh never mind, i found one for windows Jun 30 15:41:09 BBBW needs a like... reset wifi button or something *grumble*. Every few days it seems to go down and I have to reboot the thing. Next time I'll probably hook up lappy to it and try to figure out what's going wrong with it Jun 30 15:55:11 MathOnNapkins: if ... ping ... wifireset... Jun 30 15:58:42 SpeedEvil: At the risk of seeming ignorant, what are you actually trying to say? Jun 30 15:59:10 If I'm remoting into the thing, I can't run any of those commands if I can't see it on my network Jun 30 15:59:22 MathOnNapkins: Run a simple script to poll wifi every 60s, ping a host (probably your router) and take the network down/up if it does not ping Jun 30 15:59:34 (on the bbbw) Jun 30 16:00:40 Yeah I could do that. I'm hoping there's a more built-in thing / setting that is just misconfigured though. Jun 30 16:00:55 And yes, it shouldn't do that. Jun 30 16:01:10 But... Have you checked syslog, et al? Jun 30 16:01:51 Not yet, but I will. This has just been a minor annoyance getting in the way of other work every few days Jun 30 17:21:44 newb here, I'm assuming this chat is for Q&A and such ? Jun 30 17:22:29 ask away, wait patiently Jun 30 17:23:47 ok thanks! Jun 30 17:25:51 I work in the automation industry. Looking to develop a solution for a client that will monitor a float switch at a water tank, then transmit a signal to shutdown a pump. I've looked at the Lora wireless technology and really like what I'm seeing. I'm new to any sort of arduino, beaglebone, pi, etc but feel like I can figure this out. Was looking for advice on whether this can be accomplished with a beagle bone. Also,looking for p Jun 30 17:26:25 hot to program these beaglebones. Looking for advise on the shield/board I should be using if I want to add a Zigbee or Xbee 900 mhz radio module or a Lora module Jun 30 17:26:51 essentially, I want to configure the device so that if digital input 1 goes on/high then the corresponding output on the slave site would do the same Jun 30 17:26:56 fairly straight forward stuff Jun 30 17:31:27 I have a webserver that is polling tank sensors now, and looking to bring in the beaglebone I/O statuses at these different sites as well. So would be needing a local radio module (900, Lora, etc) as well as a cellular connection Jun 30 17:54:20 I mean, if what you want to do is relatively simple, that sounds more like a job for a device like an arduino, or perhaps even something simpler Jun 30 18:09:20 I was thinking beaglebone because I thought it was more rugged, and worked in more of an industrial environment. Or am I wrong. Jun 30 18:18:56 Well, there is an industrial version of the Beaglebone, yes. I imagine there are versions for Arduino too, though. I can't say b/c I never looked into it for those. Jun 30 18:21:09 do you know whether or not the lora shields work with the beaglebone? Jun 30 18:21:18 or the lora modules, etc? Jun 30 18:22:40 Sorry, not familiar with that. There are far more shields for arduino though, in general. Jun 30 18:26:24 okay just worried about arduino being in an enclosure outdoors in the cold and heat that's my only concern Jun 30 19:22:42 Anyone willing to help me out trouble shoot my beaglebone black? Jun 30 19:23:50 prad: maybe if you explain your problem, someone who knows about it might be able to respond :) Jun 30 19:31:02 Sorry, haha, I wasn't sure if anyone was going to respond. Basically, I have a custom image that I've flashed to an SD Card with a framework and some other files and stuff. Last week, I was able to boot up and connected to the BBB with no problems. This week, however, for what appears to be no reason at all, the BBB won't boot up with that image but works fine with a default Debian image. I feel like I've tried every trouble shooting sol Jun 30 19:40:19 All kinds of hell broke loose when my wifi went down apparently. What looks like kernel messages from the driver... gonna fun parsing all this Jun 30 19:40:30 *gonna be fun Jun 30 19:41:20 Where should those kernel messages be showing up? The BBB doesn't even show up under "Ports" in Windows Device Manager when I have it connected via USB Jun 30 22:28:57 Is 1Gb the max memory the beagle CPU can work with? Jun 30 22:31:00 PRU's? never heard of it. Is it better than real time linux? Jun 30 22:33:02 SanCloud BeagleBone Enhanced is not yet available for purchase? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 01 03:00:01 2017