**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 13 03:00:02 2018 Feb 13 03:01:04 https://i.imgur.com/0I8oBQy.png Feb 13 03:01:25 i edited some of the parameters in the picoscope and it looks more consistent Feb 13 03:01:29 however there are some misreads still Feb 13 03:01:55 we tried a bunch of resistors from 10ohm to 10k Feb 13 03:03:16 so, are you actually seeing issues on the software side? have you excluded the possibility that the wrong data you're seeing on the scope is just due to the scope? Feb 13 03:03:34 (or your measurement setup) Feb 13 03:04:15 it could be the scope Feb 13 03:05:53 it is a fairly economical scope Feb 13 06:39:17 hi Feb 13 06:39:41 i have a question regarding internet connectivity from my Ubuntu guest VM Feb 13 06:40:16 okay so i have connected my Ubuntu guest to windows host, i can ssh via usb to beagleboard from my Ubuntu Feb 13 06:40:38 i can ssh my Ubuntu guest from beagle board as well Feb 13 06:41:01 but the internet works only on my Ubuntu Feb 13 06:45:33 it is necessary that i have access to internet on my BBB since i need to install and update packages Feb 13 06:50:07 i have explained it in more detail here Feb 13 06:50:08 https://askubuntu.com/questions/1005462/internet-access-beagleboard Feb 13 06:55:43 hello again Feb 13 07:31:43 Hello Everyone Feb 13 07:33:37 I am using Beagle Bone green .... and I want to connect the USB OTG port as a serial tty Feb 13 07:34:07 Can anyone please help how to connect/identify the beaglebone green as a COM port on windows Feb 13 07:34:13 any help woul dbe appreciated Feb 13 07:36:32 HelloBeagle: what software are you running on your BBG Feb 13 10:36:16 Does anyone know about an example for the IMU setup in C, DMP-mode? Feb 13 10:38:15 Does anyone know about an example for the IMU setup in C, DMP-mode? Feb 13 10:42:32 fresh Beaglebone green wierless out of the box. Feb 13 10:42:49 connected vua USB, cant connect to the internet Feb 13 10:43:04 any idea? Feb 13 10:44:07 Also, Putty ssh not wirking (connection refused) Feb 13 10:45:20 connecting to the internet w/ your BB and connecting to your BB are two different things Feb 13 12:23:59 jkridner[m]: It was fun listening to your AMP hour interview https://theamphour.com/378-an-interview-with-jason-kridner-and-robert-nelson/ Feb 13 12:24:54 Sometime a blast from the past somtimes some new insights Feb 13 12:26:47 I had to spell correct Maemo in the show notes. ;-) Feb 13 12:28:04 anyway, cool and thanks. Feb 13 15:42:59 hello Feb 13 15:43:35 here for a "simple question" about uboot and cape-universal Feb 13 15:43:42 anyone around? Feb 13 15:45:31 you might want to just ask. no I probably won't be able to answer. Feb 13 16:07:16 I guess he didn't really care Feb 13 19:03:19 They found another channel that answers the question before you even ask it Feb 13 19:12:42 Problems installing drivers WIN 10 64bit, unable to stop Driver Signature Verification Feb 13 19:13:26 No error codes are given, just a list of all items with red X then only option is to press finish Feb 13 19:14:39 if a sufficiently recent image is flashed onto your beaglebone, you don't need any drivers for win 10 Feb 13 19:17:19 Alrighty then, time to plug in Feb 13 19:19:36 woohoo success, helloworld. This may need to be updated on the initial setup in slightly larger font so its easier to not miss Feb 13 19:52:20 jkridner[m]: I found that AMP hour interview very informative, thanks! Feb 13 20:33:48 Liked the PRU story the most as I have seen it happend from the outside. It was really cool. Feb 13 20:48:29 In terms or writing drivers v.s. mmapping.. it remains hard to explain sometimes ( for input and screen it is more clear that there are huge benefits) but messing around with the device tree is often very complicated (because you need to understand not only the hardware you want to access but also the device tree itself(the times I tried it I had to dive into the code to understand what options to set.. but Feb 13 20:48:35 when it works... it is really nice. Feb 13 20:54:07 there are more downsides to kernel drivers though Feb 13 20:54:45 they tend to want to expose a nice abstraction, preferably one that's generic (like a pwm output), but often enough cool features of the particular hardware peripheral end up being lost in the process Feb 13 20:55:24 plus there's a significant overhead Feb 13 20:56:28 and drivers are too often pretty mediocre in quality, they get nowhere near the sort of polish that core parts of the kernel does... and I'd rather have iffy code in userspace than iffy code in the kernel Feb 13 22:50:32 Hello... Feb 13 22:52:03 I know this is boring but bear w/ me. The MotorBridge.py file on Motor Bridge Cape software prevents me from using the Cape on 4.9.78-ti-r94. Feb 13 22:52:17 w/ the BBG. Feb 13 22:52:23 Is anyone up to speed on this issue? Feb 13 22:53:27 Seeed-Studio took their "hub" section for the BBB/BBG down for some reason. No support on their end leads me to believe their mfg. days are done for this specific Cape. Feb 13 22:54:21 ... Feb 13 22:55:56 Let me elaborate a bit. So, the MotorBridge.py file (library) lets me call an import, i.e. import MotorBridge. I import the library but I receive errors b/c the library relies on Adafruit_GPIO.I2C and Adafruit.GPIO as GPIO to use my Cape. Feb 13 22:55:57 ... Feb 13 22:56:07 I think this should explain things well enough. Feb 13 22:56:26 ... Feb 13 22:57:14 There is some sort of change that has happened recently w/ 4.9.x, I guess. Or it could be the way we utilize Capes? Feb 13 22:57:16 ... Feb 13 22:57:20 <<<< clueless Feb 13 23:00:51 I am working w/ this fellow at Adafruit now. I have sent in a request to discuss GPIO.I2C and the library from my .py file, e.g. the MotorBridge.py library. Feb 13 23:01:22 ... Feb 13 23:01:26 Okay there. Feb 13 23:21:16 Just opened my new BBGW. I have connected to it via ssh and cloud9. However, I have yet to figure out how to access the GUI. When i enter command vncserver i get nothing. When i try to install tightvnc ... nothing. Any suggestions? Feb 13 23:30:03 Anyone have the beaglebone green wireless Feb 13 23:30:04 ? Feb 13 23:31:59 Hey. Feb 13 23:32:06 swain, I have one. Feb 13 23:32:27 Have you been able to open the gui? Feb 13 23:32:39 Are you online already w/ connmanctl? Feb 13 23:32:45 I do not use the GUI. Feb 13 23:32:54 Sorry. Feb 13 23:33:25 You have to get online first to download things and update your system. Feb 13 23:33:32 what is connmanctl? I dont forsee using much but i am trying to explore the bbgw and i read that it was suppose to come with the vncserver Feb 13 23:33:41 Wireless! Feb 13 23:34:00 connmanctl is the network config utility Feb 13 23:34:17 Yea...you need to get online somehow to access all that stuff. Feb 13 23:34:22 i am online although i did not go through any utility Feb 13 23:34:28 Odd. Feb 13 23:34:38 That is okay. Feb 13 23:34:49 You set up your WiFi already? Feb 13 23:34:51 there's a web interface to config it probably? Feb 13 23:35:04 that seems like a plausible thing to do anyway Feb 13 23:35:26 (haven't really looked at what's on the default images in ages) Feb 13 23:35:27 ive connected it to my wifi and played around on cloud9 Feb 13 23:35:43 Oh. Feb 13 23:35:57 Can you do an sudo apt update? Feb 13 23:36:11 ill try that right now Feb 13 23:36:15 Cool! Feb 13 23:36:45 I do not know...are they shipping now w/ WiFi already enabled? Feb 13 23:37:21 oh...I got what you were saying zmatt. Feb 13 23:37:37 Thats what i assumed. with the beaglebone green wireless to get started you open the beaglebone wifi network Feb 13 23:38:03 Wait...there is a BBG WiFi network? Feb 13 23:38:09 I missed something. Feb 13 23:38:24 swain: Did you get to update your system yet? Feb 13 23:39:08 well you connect to the ap named beaglebonexxxx. this allows you to connect it to your wifi and for you to connect with the beaglebone Feb 13 23:39:19 Oh. Feb 13 23:39:21 I got you. Feb 13 23:39:28 yeah it sets up an AP Feb 13 23:39:36 You tried the app. that the website states works. Feb 13 23:40:11 It may not last long. I tried the app. a while back and it was faulty after so long. So, that thing works still. Feb 13 23:40:12 Dang. Feb 13 23:40:12 what app is that Feb 13 23:40:27 The app. to sign in via WiFi w/ your phone. Feb 13 23:41:02 i used the same process on my phone. . . it worked as far as I can tell Feb 13 23:41:03 Wait...you signed in w/ a laptop or desktop w/ that beaglebonexxx device? Feb 13 23:41:25 laptop with the beaglebone connected via microusb Feb 13 23:41:53 swain: I am sorry. I used connmanctl to apply commands to make my Wifi work. Feb 13 23:42:03 updated now. working on the upgrades. Well see if it does anything. Feb 13 23:42:13 Okay. You may have an older image. Feb 13 23:42:19 try uname -a Feb 13 23:43:24 If you have an older image or "an updated image" that does not have the vncserver added, you may have to use a cmd to get it. Feb 13 23:43:48 i.e. sudo apt-get tightvnc or something like that. Feb 13 23:44:08 whatever vnc you are trying to get... Feb 13 23:44:17 Ill try that after the upgrade completes. Thanks both of you for chatting. nice change from some of the people i met with arduino. Feb 13 23:44:28 Ha...cool beans. Feb 13 23:45:16 You can actually attach your arduino to the BBB/BBG. I have seen capes and you can always use WIRES! Feb 13 23:48:15 ha yeah I plan on it. just trying to get comfortable with the BBGW and start learning the new language. trying to learn javascript and python. Feb 13 23:48:25 Oh. Feb 13 23:48:27 Same here. Feb 13 23:48:36 I learn when I can. Feb 13 23:48:51 Which vnc are you trying to get? Feb 13 23:51:18 I ask b/c I have not tried it in some time and that VNC stuff was interesting when I figured out how to configure everything. Feb 13 23:51:21 I may need help. Feb 13 23:54:21 01.org/connman/documentation shows how to use connman and connmanctl if that app. ever fails to suit your needs. Feb 13 23:55:39 im runng a mac with vnc viewer that ive used with a pi before. I thought the bone came with vncserver Feb 14 00:00:30 Oh. Feb 14 00:00:37 I do not think so but you can get it. Feb 14 00:01:02 sudo apt-get vncviewer should do it but you may have to look it up. Feb 14 00:01:14 it may be called someething different on Linux. Feb 14 00:02:39 realvnc.com/en/connect/download/viewer/ is a site I found and they have Linux instructions. Feb 14 00:03:06 You can use that on your BBB/BBG. Feb 14 00:03:37 Do you have Debian on your BBG? Feb 14 00:05:18 yes degian is on the bbg Feb 14 00:05:24 tightvnc is another one. Feb 14 00:05:38 Oh...both realvnc and tightvnc are both used w/ Debian. Feb 14 00:05:49 Pick of the litter! Feb 14 00:09:48 I was wrong. Feb 14 00:09:59 It seems tightVNC is not for Linux. Feb 14 00:11:38 I was wrong twice. Feb 14 00:12:02 oh i was under the impression tightvnc was. Feb 14 00:12:05 The newer images, 4.9.x and above, are not used anymore w/ VNCviewer. Feb 14 00:12:41 tightVNC works w/ iOS and Win only. I am pretty sure. Feb 14 00:13:23 But the realVNC works w/ Wheezy instead of Debian and does come w/ it already preinstalled on the RaspPI. Feb 14 00:13:31 Odd days. Feb 14 00:14:40 upgrades done. still no luck with anything related to vnc. Feb 14 00:14:52 not a huge deal but I know for a fact that you can do it on BBB Feb 14 00:15:08 Yea. Feb 14 00:15:24 I have used VNC Viewer before. Feb 14 00:15:38 But that was when we used Wheezy instead of Stretch. Feb 14 00:16:21 I will keep reading. Feb 14 00:17:29 for linux Debian, it worked from 3.1 to 8. I think we are on 9, right? Feb 14 00:18:40 currect this is what is on the BBGW Linux version 4.4.9-ti-r25 Feb 14 00:19:43 You can use 8 instead of 9 and use your vnc viewer but only w/ ent. sub. only w/ RealVNC. Feb 14 00:19:57 I have to say something. Please hold. Feb 14 00:21:18 I am at a loss for words. Test it out. Feb 14 00:21:34 Everything I read means, no, no, and no-go. Odd days. Feb 14 00:23:39 I have 4.9.x. Feb 14 00:25:55 If those mfg. of the websites are right, nothing works w/ what we have right now. Now...if there are ways around things, which there usually is a way, finding out could be of some use. Feb 14 00:25:58 ... Feb 14 00:27:43 toptechboy.com/beaglebone-black/ has some BBB uses and I think this fellow talks about using the VNC viewer. Feb 14 00:28:12 It is one of the GPS examples. You may have to skip around but it is in one of the videos. Feb 14 00:32:17 Thats how i knew that it could be done with the black. I found this with regards to this version of debian -https://linuxconfig.org/vnc-server-client-setup-on-debian-9-stretch-linux Feb 14 00:32:24 seemed promising but still no luck Feb 14 00:36:24 I am looking through this fellows videos to see if I can get it to work. Feb 14 00:36:37 I remember he had tight vnc w/ Linux. Feb 14 00:36:49 Let me go and get this book. I think this book describes it too. Feb 14 00:37:07 trying this out now https://linoxide.com/debian/configure-vnc-server-debian-9-stretch/ Feb 14 00:40:40 Okay...this is what the book says. Feb 14 00:41:57 realvnc.com/en/connect/download/viewer/linux/ <<<<< This is the viewer I found that works w/ Linux. Do you use a virtual box or VMware for Linux? Feb 14 00:42:24 once things are downloaded, sudo tightvncserver Feb 14 00:42:36 sign in Feb 14 00:43:10 find your port number by ps aux|grep vnc Feb 14 00:44:14 I use my Linux VMware and PuTTY to access my BBBs/BBGs. Feb 14 00:44:18 is this to be downloaded on the BBGW or the computer you want to remote view from? Feb 14 00:44:19 Things may be different for you. Feb 14 00:44:26 Oh. Feb 14 00:44:48 Computer but you need the iOS version and not the Debian distro version. Feb 14 00:45:09 ok Feb 14 00:45:14 or MacOS or whatever. Feb 14 00:45:25 I do not know what OS you are using. Feb 14 00:45:56 thanks ill check it out Feb 14 00:47:08 Okay. Feb 14 00:48:50 support.realvnc.com/Knowledgebase/Article/View/548?_ga=2.219401561.1761398720.1518566527-492916814.1518566527 <<<< this shows evidence of how to use it or why to use it w/ MacOS. Feb 14 00:55:52 Nothing works anymore. Feb 14 00:56:26 swain: Please hold. I have one more effort to get it to work. Feb 14 00:57:06 Okay...can you get PuTTY? Feb 14 01:04:00 Nevermind. Feb 14 01:04:14 My last resort if on Linux Ubuntu. Please hold. Feb 14 01:06:52 Damn it. Feb 14 01:07:48 are you even running the VNCserver? Feb 14 01:08:16 this was my last attempt. . . Feb 14 01:08:17 root@beaglebone:~# su - vnc vnc@beaglebone:~$ vncserver You will require a password to access your desktops. Password: Verify: Password too long - only the first 8 characters will be used xauth: file /home/vnc/.Xauthority does not exist New 'X' desktop is beaglebone:3 Creating default startup script /home/vnc/.vnc/xstartup Starting applications specified in /home/vnc/.vnc/xstartup Log file is /home/vnc/.vnc/beaglebone:3.log vnc@b Feb 14 01:08:22 still no success Feb 14 01:08:36 how are you connecting to the vncserver? Feb 14 01:08:52 If all you want is to revert your image to Wheezy to use a VNC server and viewer, see here: https://beagleboard.org/latest-images Feb 14 01:09:21 have you tried vncserver beaglebone:3 (or whatever the IP for the bone is) Feb 14 01:09:46 This is hilarious. Feb 14 01:09:56 ive been trying to connect to the vnc serview with vnc viewer on my mac os but it keeps saying that the connection was refused by the computer Feb 14 01:10:06 I cannot do it, Danny. Please hold. Feb 14 01:10:24 My Ubuntu Distro is almost done upgrading. Feb 14 01:10:41 which instance of the server? the X side is on :3, have you tried :3? Feb 14 01:11:25 On Win...it refused my connection, too. Feb 14 01:12:08 VNC viewer 6.17 Feb 14 01:12:20 I am off to get it for Ubuntu. Feb 14 01:12:33 thats the viewer i have Feb 14 01:12:51 We may need Wheezy, maybe? Feb 14 01:13:25 I may just accept that there is no GUI for this debian and settle with the cloud9 IDE Feb 14 01:13:49 4.9.78 does not allow me to make commands on tightvncserver to initiate it. Feb 14 01:14:22 swain: There is a GUI for Debian w/ the BBB people. I have seen it. Feb 14 01:14:33 It has a dog in the corner. Feb 14 01:14:37 Or...it used to. Feb 14 01:15:02 -from toptech guy. Feb 14 01:15:29 No...from me using Wheezy in the past and going to tightvnvserver via the BBB/BBG. Feb 14 01:16:45 ah Feb 14 01:16:50 swain: Get this...I tried on Windows, PuTTY, and I will try Ubuntu soon. Please wait. If I get Ubuntu to work w/ the BBB, I will let you know. Feb 14 01:17:29 sounds good. Feb 14 01:17:58 If you have access to a "Hypervisor" or VMware station, get it and download a version of Debian or Ubuntu on it. Feb 14 01:18:13 Virtual Box works still, I think. Feb 14 01:20:04 https://www.tightvnc.com/licensing-tvnserver.php might be the cure but you will have to be very patient. Feb 14 01:20:26 4.9.x does not come w/ tightvncserver installed. Feb 14 01:22:50 swain: This might be of some use to you: https://www.tightvnc.com/download-old.php. Look at it and read where it shows the bytes. You may have enough room. Feb 14 01:23:32 thanks ill take a look Feb 14 01:26:11 Hey dude...sorry for all this info. I just used WinSCP to move my file of Linux Source Code of the tightVNCserver to my BBG via PuTTY. Feb 14 01:26:47 swain: How do you decompress and run a file on the BBB/BBG? Feb 14 01:27:13 forget decompress. How in the hell can I run a bzip2 file on the BBB/BBG? Feb 14 01:28:01 I have a .tar.bz2 file and I need to execute it to have its contents on my BBG. Feb 14 01:28:04 Send help! Feb 14 01:28:04 i have only decompressed files on my mac using keka Feb 14 01:28:12 Okay. Feb 14 01:28:25 I usually use 7-Zip for Win. Feb 14 01:28:44 Linux can do it w/ a command. No GUI. I forget how. Send rations. Feb 14 01:29:18 tightvnc-1.3.10_unixsrc.tar.bz2 is my file I need to fix and make work. Feb 14 01:29:59 sudo apt tightvncserver Feb 14 01:30:01 Try it. Feb 14 01:30:11 sorry. Feb 14 01:30:20 Try sudo apt install tightvnvserver Feb 14 01:31:00 it takes 157 MB. Feb 14 01:31:08 I do not know if I have enough room. Feb 14 01:32:45 swain! Feb 14 01:32:48 Damn man. Feb 14 01:32:54 Just when I figure something out. Feb 14 01:33:42 lol Feb 14 01:37:20 I had enough room on my BBB too. Feb 14 01:41:51 swain! Feb 14 01:42:07 well i give up. looks like its cloud9 for me Feb 14 01:42:49 No...not yet. Feb 14 01:43:10 Did you try to do this? sudo apt install tightvncserver on your BBG? Feb 14 01:44:25 you may need lxpanel or lxsession Feb 14 01:45:22 I am installing lxpanel right now. Feb 14 01:45:39 My room is limited. I will let you know what happens. Feb 14 01:46:25 oh yeah...i tired it. Feb 14 01:47:04 Host Key Verification Failed means what? Feb 14 01:47:06 It works? Feb 14 01:52:41 I got an error too, "Cannot Open Display." Feb 14 01:54:00 I may need xterm Feb 14 01:56:06 Dayum...I know. I have to revive the older version of VNC Viewer. Feb 14 01:58:42 version 5.2.3 may work. I will let you know. Feb 14 01:59:39 swain: Do you have the IOT version? Feb 14 01:59:47 Debian IoT? Feb 14 02:00:55 You have to have the LXDE or whatever it is to have an OS instead of just a terminal. Feb 14 02:00:58 i am trying to boot from a microsd with the lxqt version now Feb 14 02:01:03 Okay. Feb 14 02:01:25 Yea boy! Feb 14 02:01:32 so... Feb 14 02:01:53 sudo apt install tightvncserver Feb 14 02:01:56 That should do it. Feb 14 02:02:35 I just got my issue. I have IoT. Damn! Feb 14 02:02:42 Oops! Feb 14 02:02:52 so now im waiting on the programming - i hope. Right now all i have is the green powerl light and the blue bt light. hoping that all the userlights will light up telling me that the programming is done. Feb 14 02:03:09 Okay Feb 14 02:03:58 Hey swain: For the Standalone/SD Card version, it blinks oddly and then just starts. Feb 14 02:03:59 the lxqt is suppose to have a gui. So i should be good as long as i have done everything correctly. I powered down, held the boot button and powered up. now waiting. Feb 14 02:05:09 what do you mean by that? should i not have just the green power light on right now? Feb 14 02:06:25 swain: Do you know how to update the image on the BBG? Feb 14 02:06:46 use Etcher, right? Feb 14 02:07:02 I know nothing about Mac. Feb 14 02:11:17 i just decompressed the image and wrote it onto the sd. then i powered down inserted the sd, held the boot button and powered on. Feb 14 02:12:14 W/ that BBG, all you need to do is apply the SD card and wait unless you are writing to the eMMC. Feb 14 02:12:17 however, i just read in the manual that you need to hold the power while powering down? not sure if what i did will work. I was going off of the following. nsert SD card into your (powered-down) board, hold down the USER/BOOT button (if using Black) and apply power, either by the USB cable or 5V adapterIf using BeagleBone Green Wireless and the image is meant to program your on-board eMMC, you'll need to wait while the programming occu Feb 14 02:13:05 ... Feb 14 02:13:28 swain: Are you writing to the eMMC/flash on the BBG or for Standalone/SD Card use? Feb 14 02:14:26 trying to write to the eMMC Feb 14 02:14:45 Do not worry. Just let it power down before the flash is complete. Feb 14 02:14:54 It will power itself down! Feb 14 02:15:17 The LEDs will go from left to right and then right to left and so on to they all light up. Then, the machine will power down. Feb 14 02:16:24 But...when you unplug your machine when it is powered down, make sure to take out the SD Card or the system will start over and you may have to wait. Feb 14 02:17:19 ... Feb 14 02:18:00 I plugged in a new machine. I am going w/ the BBGW, like you. I have the LXDE or LXQE or whatever on it. I will get it working. Feb 14 02:18:01 ... Feb 14 02:18:06 Sorry about earlier. Feb 14 02:18:13 so i should unplug? Feb 14 02:18:23 No...not until it poweres itself off. Feb 14 02:18:45 The machine will turn itself off and then you can unplug it to take out the SD Card. Feb 14 02:18:48 oh sorry misread Feb 14 02:19:26 swain: I know you may not care all that much. But...I have not gotten to use tightvncserver in a while. I just wanted to test it out again. Feb 14 02:19:27 ... Feb 14 02:19:29 Yea! Feb 14 02:19:41 was my process correct though in writing to the eMMC? insert sd, unplug, hold down boot button and plug in? Feb 14 02:19:51 No. Feb 14 02:20:19 insert sd, let it power itself off, unplug, and take out sd card, and then do the pluggin' in. Feb 14 02:20:39 hehaw! Feb 14 02:20:50 Sorry. Feb 14 02:20:52 i inserted with the image on the sd before and it never powered off Feb 14 02:21:07 You must have the SD Card/Standalone version. Feb 14 02:21:39 Which lights blink in your configuration? heartbleed or left to right? Feb 14 02:22:39 nothing right now. before i have left to right and the usr0 would blink in heartbeat rhythm Feb 14 02:22:47 Odd. Feb 14 02:23:04 I only know so much. Feb 14 02:23:09 I guess things change. Feb 14 02:23:54 ill give it some more time and if i dont see any indication of the programming ill unplug and try something else Feb 14 02:24:03 Okay. Go here: https://rcn-ee.com/rootfs/bb.org/testing/2018-02-11/stretch-lxqt/BBB-blank-debian-9.3-lxqt-armhf-2018-02-11-4gb.img.xz Feb 14 02:24:25 Try that image. It will flash your eMMC. Feb 14 02:25:00 The old lights will go from left to right and right to left until the lights fully lite and then it will power itself down. Feb 14 02:26:51 thats what i have on my sd except mine is BBB-bone-debian-9.3-lxqt-armhf-2018-01-28-4gb.img Feb 14 02:27:10 Oh. Feb 14 02:27:12 Okay. Feb 14 02:27:24 So, plug in the sd card. What happens? Feb 14 02:27:36 swain: lxqt image? didn't you have a BBGW ? Feb 14 02:27:45 Yes. Feb 14 02:27:53 Oh sorry. Feb 14 02:27:56 wrong person. Feb 14 02:28:26 the lxqt image is kinda pointless for devices without display, and the BBGW doesn't have hdmi out Feb 14 02:28:56 unpluged and plugged back in now lights are bouncing left to right Feb 14 02:29:02 LXDE, right? Feb 14 02:29:14 lxqt is lxqt Feb 14 02:29:19 lxde is lxde Feb 14 02:29:21 :P Feb 14 02:29:38 swain: get the iot image Feb 14 02:30:07 you're seeing a back-and-forth pattern with that image? that sounds really strange, since that's not a flasher Feb 14 02:30:08 Oh. Feb 14 02:30:49 back and forth untill i connect to the beaglebone ap. Feb 14 02:31:08 uhh Feb 14 02:31:24 so at least I was right in that it's not a flasher Feb 14 02:31:26 i just tried holding down the boot button while i power off then power on like the manual says.. to boot from the sd. now back to just the power light Feb 14 02:31:26 zmatt: Do not give up. He needs you. Feb 14 02:31:47 Otay! Feb 14 02:31:55 swain: if it doesn't boot when powering up with the boot button held down, then your card just isn't bootable Feb 14 02:32:15 thats what I was thinking Feb 14 02:32:24 how did you flash the card? Feb 14 02:34:42 going back now and flashing with etcher Feb 14 02:34:51 well, if you're going to reflash anyway Feb 14 02:34:55 get the iot image instead of the lxqt Feb 14 02:35:19 the lxqt image takes way longer to flash and leaves very little free space on eMMC Feb 14 02:35:35 takes longer to boot, is less well-tested, etc Feb 14 02:37:29 ah. ok, well just to just to see if i can get the lxqt going and to see if it allows for a GUI vnc im going to use the lxqt out of curiosity. Then ill probably just use the iot after. Feb 14 02:37:55 sounds painful, but ok :) Feb 14 02:38:12 ha yeah im on a mission now. Feb 14 02:39:07 while i have an audience... has anyone used rtd temperature sensors with the beaglebones? Feb 14 02:39:17 does the IoT have the GUI? Feb 14 02:39:29 TMP36 Sensor? Feb 14 02:39:57 according to beagleboard.org it does not have a graphical desktop Feb 14 02:40:23 no an industrial type rtd pt-100 Feb 14 02:40:25 set_: no, that's *the* differencec between the iot image and the lxqt image Feb 14 02:40:45 Thank you. That is what I thought. Feb 14 02:41:15 swain: I have not used that ind. type of temp. sensor before. Sorry. Feb 14 02:41:27 zmatt: Thank you. Feb 14 02:42:15 all good. thought id ask. Ive been using some with a max3165 breakout with my arduino project. Feb 14 02:43:07 are you sure you have that number right? the google hits don't look remotely promising Feb 14 02:43:31 Okay. I got it. Feb 14 02:43:32 It works. Feb 14 02:44:27 I got the tightvncserver working w/ PuTTY/BBB and Windows. Now, onto trying it w/ my Ubuntu image. Feb 14 02:44:33 31865 ? Feb 14 02:44:48 correct 31865 sorry Feb 14 02:45:22 okay Feb 14 02:45:47 spi interface, 3.3v ... sounds good Feb 14 02:46:03 should be easy enough to interface to the beaglebone Feb 14 02:46:38 thats what i was thinking. would i be able to use the adafruit library for it? Feb 14 02:47:15 dunno, I don't use the adafruit library Feb 14 02:47:32 any generic spi library for linux (for any programming language of choice) should be fine Feb 14 02:47:51 gotcha. thanks Feb 14 02:48:35 swain: https://pastebin.com/tuNa4J7c and add the wires up correctly. Feb 14 02:48:54 you can examine the temp. data in time w/ that software. Feb 14 02:49:02 the max31865 actually also has a kernel driver, although that's actually a bit tedious to use since this requires customizing the dt Feb 14 02:49:36 ... Feb 14 02:49:50 (it would still be really nice to have an easy way for the average joe to make a dt that suits their hardware setup) Feb 14 02:49:51 I learned that data testing from someone in here. Feb 14 02:50:06 awesome very helpful. Feb 14 02:50:14 set_: that code is useless here Feb 14 02:50:21 Oh. Feb 14 02:50:25 he's not using the bbb's adc Feb 14 02:50:30 Aw! Feb 14 02:50:33 SPI? Feb 14 02:50:52 yes thats right SPI Feb 14 02:51:31 I looked at https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers?h=v4.14. You may find something useful in that. Feb 14 02:51:34 Right? Feb 14 02:52:02 if you'd want to take the road of using the kernel driver, but see above Feb 14 02:52:21 What is "dt?" Feb 14 02:52:47 device tre Feb 14 02:52:48 e Feb 14 02:52:51 Oh. Feb 14 02:52:54 Oops! Feb 14 02:53:22 So, you want what is not available (as of now)? Feb 14 02:53:30 here's the actual documentation for the dt binding -> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-stable-rcn-ee/blob/4.9.80-ti-r98/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/iio/temperature/maxim_thermocouple.txt Feb 14 02:53:56 but like I said, it's probably easier to just directly access the spi device from userspace using an spi library of your choice Feb 14 02:54:13 Oh. Feb 14 02:55:23 swain: Did you use the tightvncserver yet? Feb 14 02:55:37 tried it. nothing. Feb 14 02:56:37 Okay. Do this: on your BBB/BBG, sudo apt install tightvncserver. Feb 14 02:56:53 i tried that too. still nothing. Feb 14 02:57:10 Then, get the 5.2.3 version of the VNC Viewer! Feb 14 02:57:16 For your Mac! Feb 14 02:57:39 ill give it a shot but i think it has to do with the beaglebone Feb 14 02:58:01 Use a SSH client to hack into your bbb/BBG. Feb 14 02:58:14 What SSH clients are there for the MAC? Feb 14 02:58:24 ... Feb 14 02:58:50 I appreciate all of the help and comments everyone. great community. got to call it a night. - mac has a telnet client. i use the terminal to use ssh. Feb 14 02:59:20 yeah osx includes openssh Feb 14 02:59:22 just like linux Feb 14 02:59:29 Oh. Feb 14 02:59:38 swain: Okay. Feb 14 02:59:39 Later. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 14 03:00:01 2018