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Mar 18 07:30:28 <Waza> Could anyone here help me troubleshoot my flashing process?
Mar 18 07:30:59 <Waza> I've been doing this for about 7 hours and I just need help at this point
Mar 18 07:33:46 <Waza> I can't get to the point where I remove the '#' on the linux file on the sd card because when I transfer the image using win32 or etcher it tells me I need to format the drive
Mar 18 07:35:11 <Waza> Secure drive gods have mercy on my soul
Mar 18 07:36:02 <Waza> I was not born for data as fine or pure as you
Mar 18 08:06:34 <blathijs_> waza[m]: You mean in uEnv.txt?
Mar 18 08:07:09 <blathijs_> waza[m]: The BB root filesystem is a linux Ext filesystem, so Windows can't read that without installing additional drivers
Mar 18 08:07:31 <blathijs_> waza[m]: However, you can also change it from within the BB, just boot from the SD card, log in through SSH and edit /boot/uEnv.txt
Mar 18 14:15:35 <jamesyboy> hi
Mar 18 17:52:03 <Toti> Hi there
Mar 18 17:54:21 <zmatt> Toti: tip: if you have a question, just ask in (and have patience).  people tend to glance at IRC just every now and then and "hi there" is typically unlikely to get a response
Mar 18 17:54:35 <zmatt> oh well
Mar 18 17:56:18 <zmatt> jkridner[m]: can we please have a big boldface message telling people to have some fucking patience up on http://beagleboard.org/chat maybe?
Mar 18 18:07:16 <okok> Hi guys, can anyone help me with updating my Beaglebone Blue ?
Mar 18 18:13:47 <zmatt> easiest way to find out is by asking a concrete question and patiently waiting for an answer :)
Mar 18 18:14:34 <tbr> or not
Mar 18 18:52:04 <myself> Something along the lines of "If you would check back in a forum after 2 days to see if anyone responded to your post, consider that you might want to hang out in chat for more than 2 minutes after asking your question (and posting all the relevant details)."
Mar 18 18:55:45 <darkdust> Hi there, does anyone has a pinmux file for the beagleboard x15 available
Mar 18 19:00:21 <darkdust> I could not find any on the internet
Mar 18 19:07:14 <zmatt> I have a pins spreadsheet if that's of any use to you?
Mar 18 19:08:08 <zmatt> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mSqEpV_BAUHfeNApytxHcGhgTZwypy564GyOr66Nphs
Mar 18 19:08:45 <zmatt> it shows what each pin is used for / connected to on the x15
Mar 18 19:10:23 <darkdust> thanks
Mar 18 19:11:00 <darkdust> its a good starting point, even if it is a ton of work to import that into the TI pinmux tool
Mar 18 19:13:22 <jkridner[m]> hehe. so much for the “smart questions” link.
Mar 18 19:17:54 <zmatt> jkridner[m]: "smart questions" is useful but doesn't really cover this specific issue, and it's "tl;dr"
Mar 18 19:18:13 <zmatt> in fact I wouldn't rely on anyone clicking any link at all there
Mar 18 19:19:01 <zmatt> and people asking a question (or worse, just saying "hi") and then leaving within a few minutes is a huge problem here
Mar 18 19:20:36 * vagrantc finds it's a problem for irc in general
Mar 18 19:36:03 <darkdust> how many regular users are in this chat?
Mar 18 19:36:41 <vagrantc> regular?
Mar 18 19:36:56 <zmatt> there are slightly over 200 people here, and it's fair to say most of them are probably regular
Mar 18 20:08:02 <darkdust> regular like people which are here every other day.
Mar 18 20:08:21 <darkdust> 200 is quite a lot.
Mar 18 20:09:06 <zmatt> many if not most irc users just leave their irc client connected 24/7
Mar 18 20:11:45 <darkdust> and so you read every message?
Mar 18 20:14:23 <zmatt> of course not, although if you highlight me there's a decent chance I'll see your message within half a day or so
Mar 18 20:15:11 <zmatt> and more generally, if you ask a question here and have patience then there's a good chance that someone knowledgeable will see it within a few hours
Mar 18 20:15:29 <zmatt> (whether you'll get an answer or not also depends on the quality of the question)
Mar 18 20:37:24 <darkdust> the standard procedure like google before you ask and be polite, don't expect an answer. Something like that?
Mar 18 20:48:38 <zmatt> it also helps a lot to include enough information in your question to make it possible for someone to answer it without having to read your mind
Mar 18 21:23:07 <bien_salad> Hello!
Mar 18 21:23:39 <Rickta59> there usually aren't that many message in here darkdust
Mar 18 21:55:08 <myself> Here's what I would put in an interstitial page above the click-here-to-chat link: https://pastebin.ca/4003178
Mar 18 21:56:38 <vagrantc> very optimistic that people will read that much text
Mar 18 21:57:58 <darkdust> I read it and I think it is common sense to follow these rules.
Mar 18 21:58:14 <myself> We're pondering a bot over in #hackerspaces that will captcha newbies before voicing them in the channel. ;)
Mar 18 22:00:39 * vagrantc too
Mar 18 22:01:01 <vagrantc> darkdust: but we're talking about people who don't share the same common sense
Mar 18 22:03:43 <myself> Well they're currently not reading the stuff that's an extra click away. Maybe putting it on the same page would help.
Mar 18 22:04:07 <myself> Not in all cases, surely nature will build a better idiot. But in some cases. Perhaps enough to improve things.
Mar 18 22:05:27 <darkdust> vagrantc: true.
Mar 18 22:05:44 <darkdust> I will check in tomorrow again, n8
Mar 18 22:07:53 <vagrantc> myself: sure ... but maybe even pairing it down further would help
Mar 18 22:08:16 <vagrantc> er, paring
Mar 18 22:10:06 <bien_salad> Bots!
Mar 19 01:06:11 <bien_salad> is node v8.x working w/ our current 4.9.x kernel?
Mar 19 01:35:33 <zmatt> node doesn't care about kernel version
Mar 19 01:56:01 <bien_salad> Cool!
Mar 19 01:56:21 <bien_salad> I am trying it now. If anyone needs updates, I will show updates!
Mar 19 01:57:02 <bien_salad> Oh...I forgot to mention: I am working on an irrigation system someone already made.
Mar 19 01:57:08 <bien_salad> I am testing software now.
Mar 19 01:58:40 <zmatt> why node v8 instead of v9 ?
Mar 19 01:58:56 <bien_salad> The v8 was used at the time it was typed up.
Mar 19 02:01:06 <bien_salad> This damn thing locked me out of my BBGW.
Mar 19 02:03:03 <bien_salad> once I stop tethering the BBGW via TETHERED_ENABLED=no, the machine will not allow me to sign on.
Mar 19 02:03:14 <bien_salad> Is there a way to boot once tethering is turned off?
Mar 19 02:03:34 <zmatt> uhh what?
Mar 19 02:04:03 <bien_salad> I am following something online at https://github.com/Greg-R/irrigate-control/blob/master/doc/latex/irrigate-control.pdf.
Mar 19 02:04:05 <zmatt> is that some connman thing?
Mar 19 02:04:12 <bien_salad> Under...wirelss network configuration.
Mar 19 02:04:13 <bien_salad> No.
Mar 19 02:04:27 <bien_salad> I am stopping the tethering service on the BBGW.
Mar 19 02:04:41 <zmatt> I'm fairly certain there's no "tethering service"
Mar 19 02:04:56 <bien_salad> Oh. SoftAppO?
Mar 19 02:05:19 <bien_salad> Sorry. SoftApO.
Mar 19 02:06:32 <zmatt> how are you trying to "sign on" ?
Mar 19 02:06:54 <bien_salad> PuTTY.
Mar 19 02:07:01 <bien_salad> at 192.168.7.2
Mar 19 02:07:02 <zmatt> how are you connecting to the bbgw ?
Mar 19 02:07:14 <zmatt> ok so you're using usb tethering
Mar 19 02:07:17 <bien_salad> Yes.
Mar 19 02:07:42 <zmatt> given that "TERTHER_ENABLED" doesn't seem to say anything about wifi specifically, doesn't it just also disable usb tethering?
Mar 19 02:07:45 <zmatt> why are you disabling this anyway?
Mar 19 02:08:15 <bien_salad> It is in the instructions.
Mar 19 02:08:28 <bien_salad> I was testing a .pdf of info.
Mar 19 02:08:29 <zmatt> I don't understand why it's in the instructions
Mar 19 02:08:35 <bien_salad> Me neither.
Mar 19 02:08:48 <bien_salad> I tried it out and the machine cannot start. New image!
Mar 19 02:08:51 <zmatt> just skip it, leaving tethering enabled is generally desirable
Mar 19 02:09:05 <bien_salad> Okay. I will notify the fellow of it.
Mar 19 02:09:11 <zmatt> they don't motivate at all why it would not be "the desired configuration"
Mar 19 02:32:09 <bien_salad> I will blame me. I am sure this fellow did more work on the subject.
Mar 19 02:32:22 <bien_salad> I needed to add a sd card like he stated.
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