**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 01 03:00:01 2018 Apr 01 11:42:09 are other monitors (not listed on elinux wiki) will work with bbb? Apr 01 11:43:11 most will if they can process HDMI or DVI Apr 01 11:45:07 with adapter too? Apr 01 12:01:31 what do you mean by "with adapter"? Apr 01 12:27:17 i mean for example monitor with hdmi and adapter for hdmi mini Apr 01 12:28:24 well hdmi is hdmi, regardless of plug size Apr 01 12:28:54 so, yes, it will work Apr 01 12:29:44 ok thanks Apr 01 13:08:27 I forgot bbb's had an hdmi port, I haven't plugged anything into one in so long :) Apr 01 13:24:58 so you using it via ssh? Apr 01 13:25:38 you mean there are actually people who use it by connecting monitor and keyboard? o.O Apr 01 13:26:36 i need to use it this way Apr 01 13:26:45 you have my condolences Apr 01 13:27:20 not for long time, only for librebooting Apr 01 13:27:27 ? Apr 01 13:28:45 https://libreboot.org/docs/install/bbb_setup.html Apr 01 13:29:50 ah you're using the bbb as spi programmer... and you don't have any secondary computer available to connect it to? Apr 01 13:30:23 so you're going to manually reflash the bios of your *only* computer? that sounds... wise Apr 01 13:31:07 also keep in mind those instructions are really ancient since they still assume debian wheezy Apr 01 13:31:10 a lot has happened since then Apr 01 13:31:31 the instructions as written no longer work on the latest images Apr 01 13:33:46 if you're using a recent image, the spidev devices exist by default and all you have to do is setup the pinmux using the 'config-pin' utility, e.g. config-pin P9.18 spi and similarly for the other three pins Apr 01 13:38:04 I recommend doing this once the spi flash is connected and powered Apr 01 13:38:13 not before Apr 01 14:23:13 i will use default image which come with bbb Apr 01 14:26:24 in other words a random image of unknown age. ok Apr 01 14:27:07 ;) Apr 01 14:27:24 idk Apr 01 14:27:40 i will take a look Apr 01 14:28:28 trust me, i will not going to flash bios if i didn't know what im doing Apr 01 14:30:13 where's the fun in that? Apr 01 14:32:00 don't use any non-free software Apr 01 14:32:12 *using Apr 01 14:33:10 you realize the beaglebone has a non-free bootloader baked into ROM right? ;) Apr 01 14:33:38 yes i know Apr 01 14:34:01 but bbb is only for flashing in this case Apr 01 14:34:01 now you're tainted, go wash your hands Apr 01 14:35:03 :) Apr 01 14:35:37 that doesn't make difference Apr 01 14:36:34 don't get me wrong, I can fully understand wanting to replace your BIOS, if only to be able to know what's going on in SMM if not anything else Apr 01 14:36:37 machine which i flashing using bbb, after that will doesn't contain non-free softwarr Apr 01 14:37:18 SMM? Apr 01 14:37:24 well that probably depends a bit on what other ICs are in there and where you draw the line for what you call "software" Apr 01 14:38:05 System Management Mode, the unforgotten gem of the 386SLC Apr 01 14:38:55 zmatt, libreboot replace many other firmware on board Apr 01 14:39:39 from 6 to 7 parts of 12 - 13 Apr 01 14:39:42 mm__: you're reflashing your bios but don't know what SMM is? I mean, I don't really care all that much about a non-free bootloader since it's not affecting the system once it's booted, but SMM is continuously present, omnipotent on your computer, and invisible by design Apr 01 14:40:21 buggy/insecure SMM firmware is a continuous security risk Apr 01 14:42:15 I admire libreboot people. I might become one someday; I have enough spare machines that I could cook one and it wouldn't cripple me. Apr 01 14:43:11 it's definitely a good effort. I don't have any spare hw I want to risk, but I'll happily cheer coreboot/libreboot on from the sidelines Apr 01 14:44:11 zmatt, SMM was part that RMS named unreplaceable Apr 01 14:44:12 I run chdk and magic lantern on my cameras, OctOS on my smartphone, Ubuntu on my laptop... the number of people I've never met but implicitly trust is pretty huge :P Apr 01 14:44:24 mm__: ?? Apr 01 14:45:10 mm__: SMM is initialized by BIOS Apr 01 14:45:11 he wasn't named it SMM, and i was thinking about what is it Apr 01 14:47:21 also, how is "unreplaceable" relevant? Apr 01 14:48:15 unreplacable firmware is objectively worse than replacable firmware, regardless of whether the firmware is free or not Apr 01 14:48:36 right Apr 01 14:49:30 i guess he mean that SMM can't be replaced by libreboot Apr 01 14:50:40 that's why I generally disagree with the "binary firmware blobs for devices are evil" concept. it would have been better if vendors had baked those blobs into ROMs in the hardware, making bug-fixes impossible? hell no Apr 01 14:50:51 SMM is initialized by BIOS Apr 01 14:51:03 libreboot replaces BIOS, therefore controls what runs in SMM Apr 01 14:51:26 probably it don't run it Apr 01 14:52:52 coreboot does, but it use blob to that Apr 01 14:54:16 and libreboot doesn't contain blobs Apr 01 14:55:10 in theory ;) Apr 01 14:57:41 uhh, I thought SMM initialization was documented? surely it can't just be left uninitialized, what would happen if the OS does an smi call? Apr 01 14:59:37 im going to ask at #libreboot Apr 01 15:00:31 I think you must be confusing SMM with something else Apr 01 15:04:00 zmatt, i get answer, libreboot replaced SMM with free software code Apr 01 15:04:27 exactly Apr 01 15:04:39 that's what I assumed Apr 01 15:07:45 so? Apr 01 15:08:01 ? I don't know, you started claiming otherwise Apr 01 15:09:21 so it's not unreplaceable, if it's been replaced. That's good! Apr 01 16:34:56 lol what... Intel ME nowadays is an x86 processor running MINIX ? Apr 01 16:47:24 Hello there! Can anyone help on how to setup the USB functions on a BBB? Apr 01 16:48:02 the easiest way to discover that is by asking a concrete question Apr 01 16:49:11 I have a BBB and when i connect it to a windows OS it shows that i have connected serial devices, like, ehternet, serial , mass strorage, etc... Apr 01 16:49:50 what i want to do is that when i connect my BBB i only need serial and printer usb gadget. Apr 01 16:50:28 I think the default images have some startup script that sets up those gadgets Apr 01 16:50:39 Nothing more, i have been looking at a way to do it on a RBPi Zero W but it seems a lot diferent than the BBB Apr 01 16:50:54 it should be the same on any linux system, nothing bbb-specific Apr 01 16:51:47 Where can i find the file to specify the gadgets? Apr 01 16:52:04 the only bbb-specific thing is that particular startup script that's on the default images, but you can disable it obviously. I don't have a default image on any bbb here so I can't check easily Apr 01 16:52:51 but the script itself will most likely be somewhere in /opt, and the service file that invokes it will be somewhere in /etc/systemd/system/ Apr 01 16:54:17 Ok. Thank you! I will have a look! Apr 01 16:54:51 it probably uses /sys/kernel/config/usb_gadget (you can check that theory by inspecting that directory) Apr 01 16:55:02 if so, you can find the script by searching for that string in /opt Apr 01 16:57:57 I have seen people on other foruns talking of a am335x_evm.sh but its only to diseble the ehternet gadget. Apr 01 16:58:04 I think... Apr 01 17:02:00 discussion you find online might be outdated anyway, always check how recent it is Apr 01 17:03:06 also, I think all usb gadgets will be configured together in the same place Apr 01 17:04:57 you can't dynamically add functions to a composite usb device once it exists, so all the various functions (ethernet, mass storage, serial) need to be configured before the gadget can be enabled Apr 01 17:06:15 again, it should be easy enough to find the script responsible for it by doing a string search, e.g. grep -r usb_gadget /opt Apr 01 17:07:13 I am developing a project where a BBB will act as a serial/thermal printer. So the olny thing i need is a serial connection for the printer and a serial connection to communicate with the host server. All other gadgets i want to disble Apr 01 17:07:30 yes you already said that Apr 01 17:08:39 Thank you very much for your help! Apr 01 18:35:01 zmatt, yes IME is minix right now Apr 01 18:52:23 Can someone tell me the recommended way to stream large amounts of data from/to PRUs without dropping any samples? So far I've been using beaglogic logic as starting point, and it works(ish), but I have no idea if its method of manually mapping buffers for DMA is the best approach. Apr 01 18:53:41 beaglelogic doesn't use DMA Apr 01 18:54:20 DMA is not useful for getting data from PRU to linux Apr 01 18:55:31 The PRUs are directly accessing kernel-allocated mememory, so I don't what else to call it Apr 01 18:56:18 that aside, is it is a good way to do this sort of thing? Apr 01 18:57:23 PRUSS documentation is wildly spread out, especially for AM5728 which has to PRUSS subsystems Apr 01 18:57:30 uhh, writing it to memory is the only way to exchange data (apart from signalling like irqs) Apr 01 18:59:44 either memory inside pruss or ddr memory Apr 01 19:00:02 the latter needs to be allocated by the kernel obviously Apr 01 19:00:28 Understood. I'm just checking if I should be using RPMSG/vring or some other abstraction Apr 01 19:00:33 keep in mind that reading ddr memory by pru cores is really slow since it has to wait for it synchronously Apr 01 19:01:02 yeah, that's the part I'm worried about. Apr 01 19:01:25 oh I don't know anything about remoteproc-pru, and I took only a brief glance at rpmsg but it looked like a bloated abstraction Apr 01 19:01:36 I only have experience with uio-pruss Apr 01 19:02:43 me too. thanks, that makes me feel better. Apr 01 19:03:30 I haven't tried uio-pruss, but rpmsg seems like a mess Apr 01 19:05:00 the best approach depends a bit on your exact situation, but generally a plain ringbuffer is fine Apr 01 19:05:24 be sure to keep the ringbuffer pointer in the same memory as the buffer itself, i.e. either both in ddr or both in pruss memory Apr 01 19:06:19 for linux -> pru it is recommended to use a buffer in pruss memory to avoid the big performance hit Apr 01 19:06:58 if you need a bigger buffer but can't take the performance hit, you may need to use some advanced technique like using the dma controller (triggered by pru requests) to transfer data in chunks from ddr memory to pruss memory Apr 01 19:07:12 ok. That's been working great for Kernel <- PRU, but I'm starting on the trasmit side of this thing (kernel -> PRU) Apr 01 19:08:10 there are also on-chip SRAMs on the am572x. I'm not sure if those are in use, or whether they're significantly faster to access by pru than ddr or not Apr 01 19:11:06 I don't necessarily need a huge buffer as long as I can have back-pressure when writing to the device file handle. the most important part is no samples are dropped and the PRU can always pull new TX samples Apr 01 19:14:41 one last question I have is how does `pruss_get()` work? I ask because it appears that there is no way to specify which PRUSS (not PRU) you want to get, and I'm both PRUSS in this application Apr 01 19:15:16 more precisely, in this driver Apr 01 19:16:12 the PRUSS returned seems to be tied to which one I specfify in the device tree, and I can't figure out a way to specify both Apr 01 19:18:51 21:01 < zmatt> oh I don't know anything about remoteproc-pru Apr 01 19:20:49 as for back-pressure, that's something you'd just have to implement. e.g. https://pastebin.com/EG4ZNZbk although on the linux side you'll probably want a smarter "wait" :) Apr 01 19:21:22 oh forgot the /* insert appropriate memory barrier */ on the transmit side Apr 01 19:22:26 you're using both pruss instances? i.e. four cores? what are you making? Apr 01 19:22:38 software defined radio Apr 01 19:22:50 ohh, nifty Apr 01 19:24:06 but are the pru cores then doing anything other than pumping data in/out ? since I'd assume that the am572x has peripherals better suited for dumb data transfer (my first thought would be the video input/output ports) Apr 01 19:25:42 oh nm Apr 01 19:25:43 the RF front chip just has two 12bit parallel data interfaces, and the PRUs are driving the clocks Apr 01 19:26:28 I mean, I might be able to get by with one PRUSS instance, but since I had no idea where to start, and beaglelogic mapped quite well to what we're building , I used it as starting point. It's using one core for sampling and another for marshalling data to the kernel Apr 01 19:27:15 if it's literally just that (12-bit data + clock) then it definitely sounds like something the video ports might be able to do... as long as they don't have any mandatory blanking time (I'm not 100% sure) Apr 01 19:28:56 you need both cores to reach the speed that beaglelogic can reach, since there are the highest sampling rate one core is sampling every other cycle, which excludes the possibility of using memory load/store instructions on that core Apr 01 19:29:01 I had never thought of using video. this is going into a real product, and probably too late to turn the ship around (for the first SW version at least) Apr 01 19:30:02 I have the same limitation at the maximum samping rate of this RF front end Apr 01 19:32:09 but, I dont think we're going to running it at the sampling rate, will probably go with 12.5 MSPS (which is a clock of 25 MHz), so there's tiny bit of wiggle room Apr 01 19:32:33 * at the _maximum_ sampling rate Apr 01 19:32:43 can't type today Apr 01 19:33:18 anyways, thanks for the help and the pointer on using video. I'll definitely look into that Apr 01 19:34:00 yeah, so you could probably use a single core for sampling, but the outbound direction is going to be... interesting Apr 01 19:34:47 and that's where I am now. I'm just getting started. I report back when done. also, this all going to be open sourced Apr 01 19:37:43 It's nice that the PRUs let us avoid having to use an FPGA in between the RF front end and the processor. Apr 01 19:38:54 I just wish there wasn't so much outdated documentation out there Apr 01 19:40:32 yup Apr 01 22:41:53 Can anyone confirm what I seem to be observing: When I set up an SD card on a pocket beagle then try to put it in a beaglebone green, the card gets corrupted and won't boot Apr 01 22:42:16 I've had it happen several times and I'm not sure it matters which direction I swap cards from/to Apr 01 22:42:24 that sounds really weird Apr 01 22:43:49 and very implausible Apr 01 22:43:52 ok Apr 01 22:43:57 I don't know what's up yet Apr 01 22:44:22 when I try to boot it has two solid user lights on user0 and user1 I think they're called Apr 01 22:44:24 doesn't get past that Apr 01 22:46:05 check serial console? Apr 01 22:47:54 well I can't ping or connect if that's what you mean Apr 01 22:48:35 are you shutting down cleanly before removing the card? if not, maybe that's causing corruption to the point of unbootability, although I've never seen it happen with eMMC (and we pretty much never do a clean shutdown) Apr 01 22:48:41 no I meant the serial console Apr 01 22:49:42 the beaglebone black has a header for it ( https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial ), I'm assuming it's there on the green as well. no idea about the pocketbeagle Apr 01 22:50:23 it's not a thing you need often, but it's pretty indispensible for diagnosing boot issues Apr 01 22:50:27 yes, I'm shutting down Apr 01 22:50:42 I think I might be using the on-board power button a lot of the time but I wait until the lights all go out before removing Apr 01 22:51:09 then I have no idea Apr 01 22:51:43 (unless maybe the card itself is flaky. I have one microsd card that turned out to be a random number generator) Apr 01 22:51:50 I know what serial is but what would you do with the serial header – what's the output like on that? I don't think I've used it before (though I'm using other serial ports for other peripherals) Apr 01 22:52:12 messages from the bootloader and the kernel Apr 01 22:52:28 are they ascii? Apr 01 22:52:31 yes Apr 01 22:52:34 huh cool Apr 01 22:52:44 also a commandline interface for the bootloader Apr 01 22:53:07 interesting Apr 01 22:53:11 and once linux has started you can also log in via the serial console (similar to ssh) Apr 01 22:53:23 which can be useful if you manage to break networking Apr 01 23:10:27 great tip, thanks zmatt Apr 01 23:11:13 do you happen to know how it works if I add ppp (which I know how to do) – if I have ethernet connected should I be able to use ethernet or maybe the question is, does ethernet take priority while connected? Apr 01 23:11:48 having two network connections is not a problem Apr 01 23:13:23 I had this all working with docker but in there I found the ppp knocked out the eth0 and it got complicated. I know have setup working with ansible for all the host stuff + docker for some of the other stuff but now I'm thinking of getting rid of docker and using just ansible which means ppp would be configured in the host so i'm not sure if that will behave better Apr 01 23:13:40 if both offer a route to a particular IP, the choice is made based on "metric", which you may be able to configure depending on which network manager you use Apr 01 23:13:43 luckily for me ansible makes it easy to get back to where I was after corrupting my sd card a few times Apr 01 23:14:10 I wonder what the default metric behaviour is – what is metric, is it a service? Apr 01 23:14:32 i'm using ios stretch debian distro Apr 01 23:14:36 a number configured for each route that indicates its priority Apr 01 23:14:41 IOT* Apr 01 23:14:54 oh cool. where do I find that? sounds perfect Apr 01 23:15:28 use "ip route" (or "ip -6 route" for ipv6) to see the current routing table Apr 01 23:16:45 k thx Apr 01 23:17:24 route that have nonzero metric will have it listed Apr 01 23:17:33 e.g. default via 192.168.178.1 dev wlan0 proto dhcp src 192.168.178.42 metric 3000 Apr 01 23:18:23 ios? iot you mean? the beaglebone debian images use connman as network manager, but I don't really know much about it or whether (and if so, where) you can configure metric Apr 01 23:18:30 yeah i meant IOT Apr 01 23:18:37 but like I said, it should only matter in case there are multiple routes to the same destination Apr 01 23:19:10 we'll have ppp but it costs money (3g) so ideally we'll do some things when we connect to ethernet for maintenance Apr 01 23:19:11 as long as ppp and ethernet use different IP networks, you should be able to reach the beaglebone locally via both of them Apr 01 23:20:34 i can't reach the bb locally through ppp because it's going through the cell network so we can either plug directly into usb or preferred, through ethernet because that way I can have a fleet of devices on the network and target them all concurrently (via ansible) Apr 01 23:21:49 I can't really tell from this description what's going on, you'd need to debug it in more detail. inspecting the routing table when ppp is up might be informative Apr 01 23:22:11 I'm hoping it'll just work as expected. I think docker was complicating things. Apr 01 23:22:29 as for killing the sd card, that's a separate issue that I haven't figured out the reproduction pattern to quite yet Apr 01 23:22:34 also, try reaching the beaglebone by its mDNS hostname (beaglebone.local by default) Apr 01 23:22:49 that's how I'm accessing it all the time actually Apr 01 23:23:36 but it's going over ppp? what? I'm pretty sure multicasts aren't even sent over ppp Apr 01 23:24:15 so it's resolving the name via ethernet but subsequently the connection gets routed via ppp ? that makes no sense either Apr 01 23:24:19 oh, sorry, i meant I use beaglebone.local to connect to the bb over usb or ethernet, never over ppp Apr 01 23:24:31 ppp just let the bb access the WAN Apr 01 23:24:47 right, so what happens if ppp is up? Apr 01 23:25:18 since if it's e.g. an ipv4 route conflict, connecting by name might still work by using ipv6 instead Apr 01 23:25:28 but with the docker setup I found that when I enabled ppp (within the docker container), the eth0 no longer worked so I had to explicitly ifconfig down it to get the ppp to take precedence and regain network connectivity (something that I hope wouldn't happen if I did it in the host without docker) Apr 01 23:26:07 maybe connman is doing weird things Apr 01 23:26:19 like I said, I don't use connman myself. I use systemd-networkd Apr 01 23:26:53 btw ifconfig has a more modern replacement, "ip" Apr 01 23:27:31 (which, despite its name, is actually also used for configuring interfaces other than IP) Apr 01 23:30:52 oh cool Apr 01 23:44:01 ##llamas on irc.freenode.net is offering a 2 for 1 fried chicken nigger special. JOIN ##LLAMAS FOR MORE INFORMATION!! ASK FOR LETTY FOR DETAILS!! 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Apr 02 00:18:22 Stop it. Apr 02 00:19:25 Dude...Seeed-Studio has this .pdf of the motor Bridge Cape. The .pdf file is busted and cut off a third of the way up. Apr 02 00:19:35 ...Boo! Apr 02 00:19:54 Have no fret, I e-mailed them. Should I hold my breath? Apr 02 00:23:16 I wanted to use their service to make a couple Capes. More power, more VOlts, more amps, and in turn, I can then use bigger motors. Apr 02 00:24:14 Their dog-gone schematic is busted for now. Do you know anyone in seeed-Studio that may be able to assist me on my .pdf, schematic retrieval? Apr 02 00:29:02 Seeed has a new forum. Boy! Apr 02 00:29:13 <<< late but barely worthy. Apr 02 00:29:30 Is there any way to get GPU accelerated OpenGL? Apr 02 00:29:44 Perhaps I shouldn't be testing with glxgears, but, still. Apr 02 00:30:06 Also I set up my BeagleBone as a temporary IRC client device :P Apr 02 00:43:48 FL4SHK: that's cool :-D Apr 02 00:46:23 GPU accelerated OpenGL would be nice :P Apr 02 00:46:30 Yep. Apr 02 00:46:35 Does that exist? Apr 02 00:46:58 Oh wait. I was just saying yes to nothing. My fault. Apr 02 00:47:46 FL4SHK: did you ever get that thing working? Apr 02 00:48:04 the LXDE and DE? Apr 02 00:48:27 Or whatever it was we discussed in "brief." Apr 02 00:48:39 Well, yeah Apr 02 00:48:46 Cool beans! Apr 02 00:48:47 Are the resolutions really that low? Apr 02 00:48:52 Yep! Apr 02 00:49:00 can't even do 1440x900? Apr 02 00:49:03 Oh. Apr 02 00:49:14 I thought you could perform full-screen if necessary. Apr 02 00:49:36 I'd prefer that if it's less than full resolution of the monitor I'm using that it not fill the screen. Apr 02 00:49:41 I'd rather it use whatever size pixels exist. Apr 02 00:49:50 Oh. Apr 02 00:50:05 In any case I think I'm still missing a driver for hardware-accelerated graphics. Apr 02 00:50:17 Ouch. Maybe another version like gnome would be more suited to your taste. Apr 02 00:50:19 ... Apr 02 00:50:23 uhhh Apr 02 00:50:27 DE has nothing to do with this. Apr 02 00:50:38 There is something I am missing. NEON? Apr 02 00:50:50 I thought NEON was part of the CPU, not the GPU. Apr 02 00:50:55 Damn it. Apr 02 00:51:06 I am probably mistaken again. Off to look up an idea. Apr 02 00:52:21 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31422762/does-beaglebone-black-support-gpu-hardware-acceleration. BBB, right? Apr 02 00:52:25 yes Apr 02 00:52:35 Check that out. There is an answer that has some ideas. Apr 02 00:52:56 Some external links are necessary, though. Sorry. Apr 02 00:53:04 That's not an issue, mind you Apr 02 00:53:08 I think I'm just missing a driver. Apr 02 00:54:19 Drivers! Apr 02 00:54:56 Who knows? Maybe you are missing drivers. What driver do you think you are missing? Are you using Linux Ubuntu or Win 10 or something else? Apr 02 00:55:21 As I mentioned last night, using Arch Linux ARM here. Apr 02 00:55:58 I understand. Are you using your bone as a standalone system? Apr 02 00:56:04 Yes Apr 02 00:56:09 Oh! Apr 02 00:56:21 I completely understand now. Apr 02 00:56:53 So, just for ideas...you have the bbb, a usb hub, keyboard, mouse, and monitor? Apr 02 00:57:17 Or whatever you said about hdmi, right! Apr 02 00:57:36 yes Apr 02 00:58:24 So, drivers! Let us see. Go to https://beagleboard.org/getting-started. They have some driver info. at that site. Apr 02 00:58:40 I found that using this or that needs specific drivers. Apr 02 00:59:53 I am probably off base. I wonder. What driver could you possibly need for LXDE and your standalone system. I thought everything came prepackaged. Apr 02 01:00:04 IoT, right? Apr 02 01:00:12 I don't think it's IoT Apr 02 01:00:20 I've installed a non-stock OS, mind you. Apr 02 01:00:33 I understand. I am remembering now. Apr 02 01:01:13 Arch Linux | Arm has a forum. Apr 02 01:01:22 I signed up to pitch in. Apr 02 01:01:40 Well, I can just do that. Apr 02 01:01:45 I'll bug the Arch Linux ARM people. Apr 02 01:01:55 I might try to enable Arch Linux Arm on my system. Apr 02 01:02:04 Oh, that's not a bad idea. Apr 02 01:02:18 FL4SHK: Hey. If I do, will you help me? Apr 02 01:02:23 Uh, sure Apr 02 01:02:26 Cool! Apr 02 01:02:54 Do not believe I am harassing you. I just like cooperation at all levels. It is a me thing. Apr 02 01:03:02 Oh no I didn't think you were. Apr 02 01:03:06 Yea! Apr 02 01:03:36 Okay. So, that is what i will do. I am will get linux to put itself on my BBB. Apr 02 01:03:49 am will? Ha! Apr 02 01:04:32 FL4SHK: If you bail on me, I am going to lose my granola. Apr 02 01:05:01 Hey. All jokes aside, do you use the Motor Bridge Cape/ Apr 02 01:06:10 GPU driver? Apr 02 01:06:23 I do not have any capes yet. Apr 02 01:06:32 Okay. I will take note. Apr 02 01:07:25 So, I guess for now, we are looking for a GPU driver for you. Apr 02 01:08:12 FL4SHK: If you get bored of me, let me know. I can back off. Apr 02 01:23:18 FL4SHK: did you install the base packages? Apr 02 01:24:04 Uh, yes Apr 02 01:25:08 Appears that there just isn't any GPU acceleration here, so I'm stuck using this for non-graphical applications. Apr 02 01:25:21 Might make a nice small server. Apr 02 01:25:47 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_recommendations#Graphical_user_interface Apr 02 01:25:57 I can use the GPIO ports for stuf Apr 02 01:26:05 I just can't use this for a desktop computer replacement :P Apr 02 01:26:11 Right. Apr 02 01:26:19 unfortunately. Apr 02 01:26:28 Not fast enough and not enough memory. Apr 02 01:26:39 You would be compiling for years. Apr 02 01:26:43 ...for my purposes it'd work fine if I had GPU acceleration Apr 02 01:26:46 I don't compile things normally. Apr 02 01:26:55 Me neither! Apr 02 01:27:05 Even for this I wouldn't. Apr 02 01:27:12 Arch Linux ARM is a binary distro. Apr 02 01:27:59 FL4SHK: Oh. Check that link I sent you, esp. under vesa display driver. Apr 02 01:28:27 maybe vesa could prove valuable. Reading on it and tweaking it a bit may help. Apr 02 01:32:12 ... Apr 02 01:34:14 xrandr Apr 02 01:34:22 that cmd should show your resolutions. Apr 02 01:35:05 then, type your highest res. w/ xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1280x800 Apr 02 01:36:23 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=148412 Apr 02 01:38:02 ...where 1280x800 is your res. but change it to suit your needs. For instance, 1440x900 may be available on your system. You will have to check. Apr 02 01:39:48 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions is the site to use if your res. is too low. Check it out, man! Apr 02 01:45:41 use cmd cvt 1440 900 Apr 02 01:49:00 be careful. Blank screens are known from that cmd but you can lower your refresh rate. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 02 03:00:02 2018