**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 08 03:00:04 2018 May 08 03:00:16 zmat: looks fine but i cant conect to the server on the board bro May 08 03:00:19 oh nvm May 08 03:00:19 older images only exposed RNDIS networking I think, which Mac doesn't support natively. I think there's a third-party driver for it but I've heard people having trouble with it. Newer images also expose a CDC-ECM network interface, which Mac does support May 08 03:00:41 i see why i keep thinking it's a virtual FTDI May 08 03:01:44 so the easy solution is to use the latest image May 08 03:03:36 i cant, it's too big May 08 03:03:55 this is rev A5C May 08 03:04:03 the eMMC is only 2gb May 08 03:04:21 trust me, i would if i could May 08 03:04:49 in fact, i had a lot of trouble because i didnt realize the eMMC was only 2gb until i struggled for hours wondering why the install didnt work May 08 03:07:23 btw, i really appreciate the help, zmatt May 08 03:08:38 Hey...get a SD Card. May 08 03:09:07 i originally had an SD card with the latest on it but it does not auto-boot to SD May 08 03:09:21 so any time i boot the device, i have to make sure to make it boot to SD May 08 03:09:39 I think it may but not the bootloader. May 08 03:09:51 You would have to erase that drive. May 08 03:10:05 Hold on. May 08 03:10:35 i looked into making it boot to SD by default and it is not an easy process May 08 03:11:16 https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#U-Boot_Overlays May 08 03:11:30 You can update your bootloader (U-boot). May 08 03:12:10 zmatt explained this to me one day. The eMMC overrides w/ its bootloader when you boot from SD Card. May 08 03:13:13 i updated the eMMC to the latest that can fit, but because it's max 2gb i can only use an older image May 08 03:13:29 If you update your bootloader on the eMMC or erase the partition, xxxx.xxxx.xxx (whatever it is called), you can then use that current, updated bootloader on your SD Card. May 08 03:13:30 ... May 08 03:13:31 Oh. May 08 03:13:32 Okay. May 08 03:13:36 newer images are 4gb May 08 03:13:40 I know. May 08 03:14:20 The new images are 4GB. I know but you are using an old image w/out current support and updated bling. May 08 03:14:20 i just need to figure out how to get this to work on MacOSX 10.13 May 08 03:14:26 Okay. May 08 03:14:39 not trying to do anything fancy, really May 08 03:14:58 Okay. I am not a Mac user. I am sort of out of my league on this one. I am sorry. May 08 03:15:13 Oh! May 08 03:15:21 I got this book that describes Mac OS stuff. May 08 03:15:25 What do you need? May 08 03:15:34 It is old too. It may work. May 08 03:15:54 all i am trying to do is plug in the USB cable and it works, like it does on my desktop May 08 03:16:00 but my laptop is a mac May 08 03:16:03 Oh! May 08 03:16:21 So, you need drivers for the older image but your memory is too low? May 08 03:16:25 it should work just by installing the drivers found on the device May 08 03:16:38 but the ones on the device dont seem to work May 08 03:16:59 and neither do the ones on https://beagleboard.org/getting-started apparently May 08 03:17:47 Oh. did you look on https://beagleboard.org/getting-started for the MacOS ideas? May 08 03:17:52 Oh. May 08 03:17:54 Okay. May 08 03:18:06 There is a link on that site's page. May 08 03:18:29 It states "this page." May 08 03:18:49 Around that link, there is a mention that you must load w/out Https or something. May 08 03:18:52 Maybe this is the issue. May 08 03:20:02 192.168.6.2 gives you nothing on the terminal? May 08 03:20:32 good point. i should try to ping those IPs May 08 03:20:38 it may be root instead of debian as your usr name. May 08 03:20:51 and enter instead of temppwd. May 08 03:21:21 brb May 08 03:21:22 192.168.7.2 is finally responding! May 08 03:21:31 weird. could have been just rebooting several times May 08 03:21:34 Ut oh! May 08 03:21:38 Bingo! May 08 03:21:42 jeez that took forever May 08 03:21:44 at least it works May 08 03:21:46 Odd days, mate. May 08 03:21:47 Yep. May 08 03:22:31 thanks again for the help everyone May 08 04:11:07 evening May 08 04:13:11 kremlin: Hello! May 08 04:13:23 hi May 08 04:13:32 SDR is what I am looking into for the BBB. May 08 04:13:41 software defined radio May 08 04:13:52 i want to transmit but first I need to learn how to spell transmit. May 08 04:14:16 you got it May 08 04:14:20 Yea! May 08 04:14:25 I am on my way up! May 08 04:14:50 Those devices are expensive. May 08 04:15:00 I might have to work my way up and just listen. May 08 04:15:48 yeah, SDRs are expensive May 08 04:16:01 I am on adafruit.com after searching mouser. May 08 04:17:05 They have this fona Device but I found this specific transmitter from GSG (great Scott gadgets). 100.00! I do not think so. May 08 04:17:59 They have another at more than 1GHz to 6GHz and it is over $300.00. No way. May 08 04:18:17 kremlin: you can make one. Sell me one cheap? May 08 04:18:53 haha, i can't build an SDR May 08 04:19:00 Me neither. May 08 04:19:10 I am too old for transmitting. Who am i kidding? May 08 04:19:31 nonsense May 08 04:19:37 Hahahaha. May 08 04:19:50 kremlin: I know. I am young, sort of. May 08 04:20:17 you're still prob. older than i am May 08 04:20:30 Hey! Yea, you are probably right. May 08 04:21:06 early 20's :) May 08 04:21:20 <<<< geezer! May 08 04:21:48 Just do not run backwards through corn fields w/out clothes and the BBB will treat you well. May 08 04:22:17 ooh, ah, ooh, ah. May 08 04:34:06 Hey! May 08 04:34:41 Are there people in here using KiCad to set up schematics for the BBB and L298n/78M05 connections? May 08 04:37:01 I am asking for this reason...78M05 in Digi-Key format is what? That is why. I have no clue and I see they do not have the .lib in their entire library for this KiCad part. May 08 04:38:01 $5 sdr -> https://osmocom.org/projects/osmo-fl2k/wiki May 08 04:38:57 (this project is for transmit, but near the top is also a link to cheap receive) May 08 04:42:28 Cool! May 08 04:42:59 I found some cheap receivers but i want to be an anglo saxon and transmit, sir. May 08 04:44:43 re May 08 04:44:47 zmatt: Have you tried to transmit w/ the BBB, yet? May 08 04:45:09 I've never done anything with sdr May 08 04:45:15 Okay. No issue. May 08 04:45:41 I thought I could be a transmitter over the air. Sounds cool, right? May 08 04:46:02 wow.. and usb 3.0 May 08 04:46:30 sounds like a fun and easy way to get into trouble with the FCC :P May 08 04:46:41 Haha. Probably. May 08 04:47:13 set_ just got booked over his name of SDR while over the air. May 08 04:47:58 I found this softback book called, "BeagleBone Black Primer." May 08 04:48:15 It has a small section on SDR> May 08 04:49:39 it has another interesting section on OBD on the cars/trucks. May 08 04:55:44 (and this one is... not such a great idea to use but still very cool) May 08 04:57:02 aint' there a pru sdr yet? or fm transmitter like https://www.raspberrypi.org/magpi/raspberry-pi-fm-transmitter/ (gpio togling) May 08 04:58:18 I made it to the ARRL online page. Everything from them is outdated. Oh well. May 08 04:58:29 perfect example of using /dev/mem :P https://github.com/PNPtutorials/FM_Transmitter_RPi3/blob/master/transmitter.cpp#L83 May 08 05:00:49 ... May 08 05:01:01 Must be free w/out consequence. May 08 05:04:15 http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QST%20Binaries/March2017/Next%20Generation%20Networks%20-%20%20Software%20Defined%20Radio.pdf May 08 05:04:16 ... May 08 05:04:45 If you get bored, this SDR .pdf on ideas may be useful for when attaching the BBB. Who knows? May 08 05:36:54 https://airspy.com/airspy-mini/ is what I can find so far for openSource. May 08 05:37:21 But...they must not know about the BBB. They have Linux listed but not the BBB. May 08 05:44:39 Oh well...done for now. May 08 06:12:02 @zmatt please give the May 08 06:12:18 please give me the link of the pin tool May 08 06:12:31 https://github.com/mvduin/bbb-pin-utils/#show-pins you mean? May 08 06:12:42 yes. Thx! May 08 06:13:57 also what is the other tool called? pinmux-config? May 08 06:14:05 config-pin ? May 08 06:14:32 probably May 08 06:15:20 yes that's it May 08 06:15:26 thx again May 08 06:19:23 is there a reason why should I use this tool instead of TI's PinMux one? May 08 06:25:59 its labels pins by their cpu ball number, which is likely to be really annoying, and its output is close to useless May 08 06:26:30 ("it" being TI's pinmux tool) May 08 06:29:04 if you want an overview of what functionality is available on what pins of the beaglebone, you may find my spreadsheet useful: https://goo.gl/Jkcg0w May 08 06:29:16 the P9 and P8 tabs give an overview of the BBB's expansion headers May 08 06:41:09 excellent work zmatt. May 08 11:39:54 it is like the 10th time I get bitten by the power requirements of the bone. This time I had a good power supply but apparently the cable was not good enough. hour of debugging uboot and trying to get a console working May 08 11:40:27 The good news is that UART serial is not broken in recent builds May 08 11:40:39 (at least on my contig I have now) May 08 11:42:33 Will I need to install something special to make the reboot command work? https://pastebin.com/2CYxA0k0 May 08 11:43:14 (ok .. just sudo).. May 08 11:45:23 nice May 08 12:29:31 huh, you had a problem with a included usb cable? May 08 12:29:52 *the included usb cable May 08 12:43:26 zmatt: my boards are .. like 5 years old by now (I used to work on the Minix 3 port to the beagle) and on beagleboarx XM before that (I am an old fart) May 08 12:44:32 but yes the usb case was apparently not good enough :( May 08 12:46:23 the usb cable included with the beaglebone black is a very decent one and I've never had trouble drawing a lot of power over it... maybe yours got damaged? or maybe very old beaglebones came with crappier cables, I dunno May 08 12:48:26 No, I just picked a random cable. was aware for the need for a good power supply but ... May 08 12:48:33 ahh May 08 12:48:52 yes that can be trouble, usb cables can have sometimes have way too much resistance on their power and/or ground May 08 12:49:31 something like that (or inductance perhaps) May 08 12:49:47 nah, resistance... crappy thin wires May 08 13:17:08 (also my leds are covered with black paint against dead by blue light hence it was hard to see things going wrong) May 08 14:16:56 keesj: uhh, wouldn't it have made more sense to just turn the leds off when unneeded May 08 14:37:21 zmatt: it was quite heavy on the eyes (the power led is also directly connected to LDO3) . Gotta love open hardware May 08 14:40:18 which board revision do you have? May 08 14:41:26 LDO2 you mean May 08 14:41:45 since BBB rev A6 the power led is the *only* thing connected to LDO2, so it's actually safe to turn it off via i2c May 08 14:42:11 or lower its voltage May 08 14:45:15 https://i.imgur.com/ULDe3dA.mp4 May 08 14:46:12 ? what am I supposed to see there? May 08 14:46:22 (the paint on the leds) May 08 14:49:56 zmatt: no way to find kmssink :-(((((( May 08 14:50:44 talked to gstreamer chat , it should be included in any distro, gst-plugins-bad but it isn't..... May 08 14:50:45 don't get too hung up on some plugin I saw mentioned while googling for about 10 seconds May 08 14:50:51 hum okay May 08 14:50:54 that's weird May 08 14:51:18 although I'd be interested to know why it's in the "bad" plugins package to begin with May 08 14:52:51 probably I have to try with some older debian distro.. May 08 14:53:40 what? why? May 08 14:53:52 you're already running an ancient distro May 08 14:53:59 if anything you should probably try a newer one May 08 14:55:00 they were asking why it is no more present in latest version , so I supposed older ones include it.... May 08 14:59:21 Do you think I can get it from some git repository and install my own ? May 08 15:02:24 it seems it wasn't included with debian packages because it depended on the obsolete libkms library instead of using libdrm May 08 15:02:33 the debian bug page says that issue has been fixed upstream though May 08 15:03:30 ah, and indeed it's available in debian buster's package May 08 15:03:48 so the problem is you're using an old version of debian May 08 15:05:08 I'm playing with rcn images debian 7 to debian 9 ... May 08 15:05:33 but also a ubuntu 16.04 hasn't it May 08 15:06:10 buster is 10 May 08 15:06:25 hmmm May 08 15:07:06 buster is the current testing release, stretch (9) is stable, jessie (8) is obsolete, wheezy (7) is very very obsolete May 08 15:11:42 do you know of any working console image of buster ? May 08 15:12:36 I just start from a stretch console image and upgrade it to buster May 08 15:13:24 (replace all occurrences of "stretch" by "buster" in /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ) May 08 15:18:50 ok, i will try..... May 08 15:19:19 always finding old and unused things..... :-))) May 08 15:21:18 in case you're wondering how I quickly checked whether libgstkms (which contains the kmssink plugin) was included in various packages, the file listings can be found online: https://packages.debian.org/buster/armhf/gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad/filelist May 08 15:22:21 i see... May 08 15:29:08 have to go, this evening I'll go for a dist-upgrade .... thanks May 08 16:32:04 hi May 08 16:32:23 I am new to the BBB May 08 16:32:59 is there anybody help me how to flash the code and run independently from laptop May 08 16:33:10 say a simple LED blink code May 08 16:34:06 chinna_: there are various ways. if you're using cloud9, I think it has a thingy for startup scripts but it's been too long since I've used it to remember precisely May 08 16:34:51 I am coding inside the debian platform May 08 16:34:53 with python May 08 16:35:29 I try to give external power and see the LED operation, but it is not working May 08 16:35:51 Hi zmatt May 08 16:35:59 then you should make a startup service, which is actually pretty easy once you know how May 08 16:36:11 startup service? May 08 16:36:12 you have a program that works if you start it manually? May 08 16:37:46 To start with, Let's make it clear. My issue is simple, in Arduino, I used to write code and upload the code on to it. Then, I used to unplug from the computer and give external power supply May 08 16:38:09 yes, but the arduino isn't doing anything other than the code you upload to it May 08 16:38:13 linux is May 08 16:38:15 the code, I have written used to stay in the flash memory and give me the output May 08 16:38:31 you just want your program to be run automatically at startup, that's called a service May 08 16:38:46 yes, How do I replicate the above procedure on BBB? May 08 16:39:07 so, you have a program that works if you start it manually? May 08 16:40:09 yes May 08 16:40:23 I have it in my debian desktop May 08 16:40:48 I will have to connect BBB to Putty and run the code "python filename" May 08 16:41:57 After this step, I want to unplug the laptop and run the BBB on external power supply. May 08 16:42:07 you don't need to repeat that constantly May 08 16:43:20 https://pastebin.com/hF5PeFyU May 08 16:43:27 this is an example service file May 08 16:44:10 you'll need to adjust the variables for your particular situation May 08 16:44:34 then make systemd reload its configuration with: sudo systemctl daemon-reload May 08 16:45:02 now see if your service works by starting it with: sudo systemctl start hello.service May 08 16:45:37 if it's working, you can enable it to started automatically at boot: sudo systemctl enable hello.service May 08 16:46:14 btw you should consider using python3 instead. python2 is really kind of obsolete May 08 16:46:32 Sorry, I was reading your link, May 08 16:47:12 Do I have to install Wantedby? May 08 16:47:34 ? what do you mean? May 08 16:47:50 I see install line in the given link May 08 16:48:22 [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target May 08 16:48:33 What is it for? May 08 16:48:40 the [Install] section of the config file is telling systemd how to enable your service when you do 'systemctl enable hello.service' May 08 16:49:10 I am sorry, I am very new to this, if I asked some silly question, don't mistake me May 08 16:50:04 you can consider that section of this config file to be just boilerplate for now. it's needed to be able to enable your service to be started at boot May 08 16:50:28 you should adjust the other variables to suit your needs May 08 16:52:07 Sure, is it necessary that, I should save my file in Save as /etc/systemd/system/hello.service? May 08 16:52:39 as the second line says, you can choose the name as long as it ends in ".service" May 08 16:52:47 it does need to be in /etc/systemd/system/ May 08 16:57:23 I will try LED code and get back to you asap, Thank you very much for your patience May 08 17:00:46 chinna_: https://pastebin.com/raw/LP22H7v1 here's a quick reference for a few useful commands May 08 17:02:11 when using systemctl you can actually abbreviate the service name by omitting the .service suffix, i.e. "sudo systemctl status hello" works too) May 08 17:31:14 https://pastebin.com/FBQzsfv0 May 08 17:31:19 hi zmatt May 08 17:31:39 I got error while loading the file May 08 17:34:11 hi May 08 17:43:39 chinna_: it's hard to see the message since it's cut off, but python seems to say it can't open the script May 08 17:45:28 you can use arrow keys to scroll right to view the whole message, or make your terminal wider, or use systemctl status --no-pager --full initboot.service May 08 19:15:22 Tue! May 08 19:57:12 hi May 08 20:14:35 hi May 08 20:14:37 https://pastebin.com/kQ4zJ21G May 08 20:15:05 hi May 08 20:15:26 Can anybody help me with the falshing problem? May 08 20:15:30 *flashing May 08 20:20:54 hi thinkfat_ May 08 20:26:24 hi May 08 21:28:19 hi May 08 21:38:41 Chinna_: the error seems pretty clear to me: it couldn't find the file, i.e. either the name is wrong or it's in the wrong directory (be sure to set WorkingDirectory correctly) May 08 21:38:51 whatever you did after editing it subsequently, you evidently broke it :P May 08 21:40:03 what's the current contents of your service file? May 08 22:03:09 GenTooMan: Hello...how are you today? May 08 22:08:45 <<< on break from making wood duck boxes May 08 22:08:48 brb May 08 22:09:05 Alive with too many things to do? Wood duck boxes? May 08 22:13:40 Yep! May 08 22:13:55 The story goes: Conservationists want things too. May 08 22:14:26 GenTooMan: I am working on making a KiCad thing w/ the BBB. May 08 22:14:51 It is a L298 dual h-bridge driver but I cannot find a specific part on the Digi-Key library. May 08 22:15:21 ... May 08 22:15:49 78M05 is the voltage regulator but they only have other volt. reg. w/ different labeling. May 08 22:16:05 GenTooMan: What should I do? May 08 22:20:51 I found one that has four of the five digits in it, i.e. 7805 w/ suffixes and prefixes. May 08 22:21:12 ... May 08 22:21:16 Ooh la la. May 08 22:22:07 Look it up on On Semi's site May 08 22:22:23 Semi's? May 08 22:22:30 ST.com? May 08 22:22:52 http://www.onsemi.com/ May 08 22:22:58 Oh. May 08 22:23:02 Okay. May 08 22:23:12 They have downloadable items in their libraries? May 08 22:23:41 They made 3 variants of the 78 series L M and no digit M I believe was medium (well) power L low power GOK what not weird letter in it ment. May 08 22:24:10 Ah! May 08 22:24:15 You are too smart. May 08 22:24:25 Thank you. onsemi.com. Got it! May 08 22:24:46 It is probably a typo on another person's end. May 08 22:24:53 No wonder... May 08 22:25:24 So no letter meant 1A M meant 0.5A and L meant 0.1A output. May 08 22:25:46 Digi-Key's library for KiCad has these too. May 08 22:25:48 Oh. May 08 22:26:03 In any case you probably can replace the M with a no letter variant. May 08 22:26:09 Yep. May 08 22:26:23 That is what my final choice was going to be (so far). May 08 22:26:28 aren't the L variants only available in TO-92? May 08 22:26:57 Yikes...do not ask me. They call me clueless. May 08 22:27:01 right where as M and no letter are TO220. They did not make a TO247 variant. May 08 22:27:23 not so much asking as pointing out if you are substituting, watch for mechanical issues May 08 22:27:30 Oh. May 08 22:27:34 wasn't there also a K version in TO-3? May 08 22:28:37 K = Special? May 08 22:28:52 Not very common and I don't believe they made them post Y2K. I believe those were 3A. May 08 22:29:16 No just a bigger package to disapate YET MORE heat. May 08 22:29:32 I think they have linear, special, and switching. May 08 22:30:08 DC - DC May 08 22:30:49 There are many types of linear regulators. LDO they 78XX types (just linear) and low noise. the low noise you use with audio circuits if you know what is good for your sanity. May 08 22:31:37 https://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=78M05 May 08 22:31:57 I found the 78M05 but I have the same issue. May 08 22:32:17 like ds2 said/asked, no subs. May 08 22:33:38 You are right GenTooMan: There are too many to actually tell what is what w/out researching more. May 08 22:43:20 IF you have an image of the build for the circuit use that as a reference my guess is it's a TO220 but I would have to see what the PCB layout is was and a picture is worth a thousand minutes May 09 00:07:38 GenTooMan: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rNBT-OyaXF8/WtfSOJngyRI/AAAAAAAAJ6A/xq8-9J8U71U4jZtrKo-6J3T8PRXq4PImgCLcBGAs/s1600/ForBBB.PNG May 09 00:07:39 ... May 09 00:07:55 There is a 78M05 on that schematic. May 09 00:20:37 bbl May 09 01:42:07 Sorry. May 09 02:13:28 you have an image? May 09 02:16:52 So you have a PCB or are you going to DIY? May 09 02:19:34 I am making it so I can add the schematic w/ leads to the schematic of the BBB. May 09 02:19:50 That is just a photo. May 09 02:26:43 So you don't have a physical board you are just taking a schematic and building it? I presume through hole protoboard then? May 09 02:27:31 The board is already made. May 09 02:27:45 I bought it but they only want to give me a photo of the schematic. May 09 02:28:21 I want to add some functionality/understanding to the schematic by adding some software, the BBB and BBB schematic, lead connections, and additional info. May 09 02:28:37 ... May 09 02:28:57 I was going to do this w/ the Adafruit_BBIO GPIO, PWM, and etc first. Then, branch out. May 09 02:29:28 Well you have a populated PCB? or unpopulated PCB? You have a lot of options probably too many :D May 09 02:30:44 Yes. May 09 02:30:48 Populated. May 09 02:32:27 I just need this dog-gone 78M05 volt. reg. May 09 02:32:32 on KiCad. May 09 02:32:34 Ah! May 09 02:32:36 Hahahhaha. May 09 02:33:07 Well you can add it you know. You can make it anything you want in terms of packages. May 09 02:33:34 Oh? May 09 02:33:36 Cool! May 09 02:33:42 I was unaware of this key fact. May 09 02:34:46 You start with what device you want, you then examine the data sheet and look for the package you want, most of the packages are already available in KiCAD so you just check the package with the library. May 09 02:34:48 I am making a wood duck box. You know and Calculus is coming into play b/c of this damn miter saw and the Quadratic Forumula. May 09 02:34:50 ... May 09 02:35:10 Sir....I will check. May 09 02:35:30 Sorry. May 09 02:36:20 ...I will check their library too. I just thought, esp. since I installed the Digi-Key library, Digi-Key had a portion of their library that was dedicated to this particular volt. reg. May 09 02:37:40 +/- 1/2" was the measurement I needed instead of 6" (like I was using) on the miter scale. May 09 02:37:42 Ah! May 09 02:37:49 My wood duck box is way off. May 09 02:38:06 Now...onto the BBB! May 09 02:38:30 as you stear off course into another light socket. :D May 09 02:38:36 Yep. May 09 02:38:50 Flap, Flap. Light! May 09 02:39:04 flap on flap off the flapper. May 09 02:39:09 GenTooMan: I think you may be correct. May 09 02:39:25 I am just used to using Digi-Key libraries on KiCad. May 09 02:39:35 So far...at least. May 09 02:39:58 I mean, hell, I found the L298n on their library. May 09 02:40:51 Sir, I know Digi-Key has it. I just do not know their labeling instructions yet. May 09 02:41:24 Do not worry. i asked on their forum. May 09 02:43:01 What you don't understand "w1f93@q9_wt021?" May 09 02:46:37 Oh. May 09 02:46:40 Okay. May 09 02:48:08 well have fun set_ if you need kicad specific help try #kicad forum May 09 02:48:17 Okay. See you later. May 09 02:48:21 err channel brain dead but it's only permanent **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 09 03:00:04 2018