**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 07 03:00:01 2018 Aug 07 04:22:14 e Aug 07 04:59:58 kona: are you there '? Aug 07 06:57:03 hello guys! I am having trouble installing the beaglebone wireless black drivers on windows 10. has anyone encoutnered this issue before?\ Aug 07 07:00:54 windows 10 should not need drivers, IF you run one of the latest images Aug 07 07:05:01 I am kind off a beginner in this, where can i find the latest images? Aug 07 07:05:28 http://beagleboard.org/latest-images Aug 07 07:05:55 unless you really really need a graphical desktop on HDMI, go with the IoT image Aug 07 07:06:57 ow ok, i just need a normal one to work at the moment, and get it up and running Aug 07 07:07:26 if you just received the board, it's always a good idea to upgrade to latest firmware Aug 07 07:09:45 follow this tutorial i had the same problem at the beginning : https://beagleboard.org/getting-started Aug 07 07:10:55 ow ok, i'll try both solutions now Aug 07 07:10:58 thanks a lot ! Aug 07 07:11:25 if u have questions about setting it up just ask i had the same shit problem Aug 07 07:12:35 language, please, thanks Aug 07 08:55:58 Im flashed my 3rd bbb and i cant connect to it without the sd card in it. If the card is in everything works Aug 07 08:56:04 How can i solve that ? Aug 07 08:56:47 I have the assumption that it was never flashed and because of this it doesnt work Aug 07 08:58:28 solved it Aug 07 09:04:37 is it possible to run a crontab on a beaglebone ? Aug 07 09:05:07 or cronjob Aug 07 09:17:44 yes, it's just a computer. In your case it's a computer, running Debian GNU/Linux. In terms of software there are no differences to a desktop PC that runs Debian GNU/Linux. Aug 07 09:18:23 so i could create a crontab that sends me every 5 min via MQTT the time ? Aug 07 09:19:20 why wouldn't it be possible after what I just said? Aug 07 09:21:59 because i dont know if you can send over the mosquitto only the date Aug 07 09:22:07 Hi, is omxplayer working in beagle debian distro ? Aug 07 09:22:12 i only did it with clear strings Aug 07 09:33:34 mister: so your question isn't "can a beaglebone do X" but "what sort of payloads can I use with MQTT when using mosquitto"? Aug 07 09:34:20 fred__tv: "Omxplayer is a video player specifically made for the Raspberry Pi's GPU" - well take a *wild* guess… Aug 07 09:35:17 so NO definitely ? Aug 07 09:35:43 absolutely, most certainly, and definitely: NOPE Aug 07 09:36:05 a) the BBB doesn't have the same CPU/chip as the RPi Aug 07 09:36:32 b) the BBB processor (SoC) doesn't have any media decoding acceleration Aug 07 09:37:20 tbr. YES Aug 07 09:37:26 tbr: yes Aug 07 09:39:04 mister: "MQTT is data-agnostic so it's possible to send images, texts in any encoding, encrypted data, and virtually every type of data in binary format." Aug 07 09:43:40 yeah i know but ifm i publish like this : mosquitto_pub -h localhost -t test -m "hello" how will i send the current time ? Aug 07 09:43:55 i know there is the command data with some opportunities to output Aug 07 09:49:41 how about: mosquitto_pub -h localhost -t test -m "current date is: `date -In` on this system, probably." Aug 07 09:49:52 i will try Aug 07 09:50:16 do you know something about how to get the temperature of a beaglebone processor ? Aug 07 09:50:33 I'd recommend that you take a book about linux basics and basics of shell commands Aug 07 09:50:38 on pi it is : vcgencmd measure_temp Aug 07 09:50:53 is what? Aug 07 09:52:01 i know the basics but a temperature is not a basic Aug 07 09:53:18 i found a tutoria about it Aug 07 09:53:53 do you know whats the problem if a board is not connecting to my pc but all 4 lights are on Aug 07 10:11:44 tbr: thanks, timesaver Aug 07 10:45:58 do you know whats the problem if a board is not connecting to my pc but all 4 lights are on Aug 07 11:03:35 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 11:03:40 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 11:03:44 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 11:03:47 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 11:03:51 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 11:08:04 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 11:08:09 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 11:08:13 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 11:08:16 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 11:08:19 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 11:10:30 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 11:10:35 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 11:10:39 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 11:10:42 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 11:10:45 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 11:23:19 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 11:23:24 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 11:23:28 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 11:23:31 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 11:23:35 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 11:38:58 zmatt: this somehow sounds familiar, wasn't there something about some devices not being able to shut down? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51708244/beaglebone-black-emmc-flash-loop Aug 07 11:52:07 tbr: isn't the watchdog timer actually what signals the PMIC to do the poweroff operation on BBB? It was on BBW but unsure if that changed for BBB. Possibly the watchdog isn't being set correctly or the PMIC isn't going down fast enough and/or the watchdog is kicking the SOC level warm reset? Aug 07 12:14:17 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 12:14:21 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 12:14:25 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 12:14:28 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 12:14:32 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 12:29:28 hi Aug 07 12:30:20 i am having an issue with the gpio, my program (c code) exports a gpio by opening export and writing the number. but this exits with an error Aug 07 12:30:35 how ever there is a gpio exported Aug 07 12:30:43 and i can read it input state Aug 07 12:30:59 any way to figure out why? Aug 07 12:35:51 Hello, why do I have to create an user in this chat ? Yesterday i could connect without problems Aug 07 12:35:54 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 12:35:59 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 12:36:03 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 12:36:06 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 12:36:09 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 12:38:03 what ? Aug 07 12:40:52 can somebody explain what is going on Aug 07 12:56:36 KotH: erm, why the +r? Aug 07 12:57:02 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 12:57:06 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 12:57:10 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 12:57:13 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 12:57:16 tbr: What is going on here ? Aug 07 12:57:17 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 12:58:19 HansPeterKonrad_: freenode has a spam bot problem recently. To combat this some channels are restricting access to a degree. Aug 07 12:58:39 https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Aug 07 13:00:50 Do I need to do anything to get a "newer" image to boot? Aug 07 13:01:09 i.e one without a fat32 boot partition Aug 07 13:02:28 jonnyw2k: hold down the S2 button next to the SD slot while connecting power. To make sure it's using the right U-Boot Aug 07 13:03:38 yeah it's just booting from eMMC Aug 07 13:03:53 too lazy to go find my ftdi lead Aug 07 13:05:02 you can always nuke eMMC if you don't need it, then it will boot from SD or not at all ;) Aug 07 13:05:35 Could it happen that the bbb stopps doing anything and only all 4 lights will flash ? Aug 07 13:05:53 and you cant do something and have to reflash the bone Aug 07 13:06:04 just wondering if there was anything I needed to do to get an image that didn't have a boot "parition" to work on an OLD bbb Aug 07 13:06:55 jonnyw2k: if you want to flash and the BBB has only 2GB emmc, make sure the image fits Aug 07 13:07:37 tbr: why do i get the message 33 not upgraded after sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get install ? Aug 07 13:07:40 not too worried about flashing just wanted to make it boot Aug 07 13:07:59 I heard I could just add a line in the exisiting emmc uboot Aug 07 13:08:04 but I forget what that line is lol Aug 07 13:08:06 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 13:08:06 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 13:08:06 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 13:08:10 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 13:08:14 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 13:08:17 HansPeterKonrad_: that's more of a debian question. Probably dependencies not allowing a simple upgrade Aug 07 13:08:58 HansPeterKonrad_: what's the debug UART output when that board starts flashing its LEDs? Aug 07 13:12:37 tbr: looks like mister got what he wanted while I slept. Aug 07 13:13:12 kona: HansPeterKonrad_ is here if you feel like giving him more free consulting :) Aug 07 13:14:06 Ah, yes I was just beginning to wonder Aug 07 13:15:30 I'm actually a bit busy this morning and it looks like he's in good hands, so in the unlikely event that I'm needed, ping me and I'll eventually respond :) Aug 07 13:21:55 HansPeterKonrad_: apt sometimes won't upgrade various packages by default. If you don't need the updates to the "kept back" packages, it might be best to ignore that error. Aug 07 13:22:38 kona: So i can go on working with that bone without thinking about it ? Aug 07 13:23:57 Probably, yes. And it's not actually an error, warning. But if you have specific reasons to force an update, you can try some things, but there are risks. https://askubuntu.com/questions/601/the-following-packages-have-been-kept-back-why-and-how-do-i-solve-it Aug 07 13:26:11 but why is this message on one of my bbb's and on the other nor ? Aug 07 13:26:26 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 13:26:30 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 13:26:34 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 13:26:36 Guest58277: bye Aug 07 13:26:37 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 13:26:41 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 13:27:31 HansPeterKonrad_: my guess is that one of them has a different Debian image flashed or on the SD card. Aug 07 13:27:58 no they are the same Aug 07 13:28:08 Ok, then I'm not sure. Aug 07 13:28:41 another question: why does one of my bbb's stopped working and just flashed the 4 LED's ? Aug 07 13:28:50 I had to flash the whole BBB new Aug 07 13:29:32 Ah Aug 07 13:31:06 13:08:58< tbr> HansPeterKonrad_: what's the debug UART output when that board starts flashing its LEDs? Aug 07 13:31:23 what is UART ? Aug 07 13:31:42 "serial port, but not RS-232" Aug 07 13:32:33 I dont know. The LED flashed all the time and i couldnt do anything and then i flashed the image again and now im setting every new Aug 07 13:32:58 So i reset the bbb Aug 07 13:33:24 it's the 6-pin header next to P9 Aug 07 13:33:53 if you reflashed, then it's impossible to say what happened Aug 07 13:34:58 okay now it is working again Aug 07 13:38:14 Yes, diagnostically at this point there's not much to be done. Aug 07 13:38:44 If it happens again, you might get more info out of the serial console. Aug 07 13:39:52 https://dave.cheney.net/2013/09/22/two-point-five-ways-to-access-the-serial-console-on-your-beaglebone-black Aug 07 13:40:09 but i didnt get connected to my pc how will i get info out of the console without connection Aug 07 13:41:04 You can also use the USB OTG port, but last I knew that port only works on the black one the kernel is loaded, so if the problem is earlier you wouldn't see anything over OTG Aug 07 13:41:41 what is OTG? Aug 07 13:47:27 Hey, this is what my uart looks like when I try and boot from uSD Aug 07 13:47:28 https://pastebin.com/wxXLqmJu Aug 07 13:51:10 HansPeterKonrad_: it's the mini USB on the bottom of the board. But it will only act as a serial port once the kernel is running and won't have the console messages unless you configure logging to the port. Aug 07 13:51:40 okay Aug 07 13:51:43 It's probably not worth messing with if you can pick up a bus pirate or ftdi instead as mentioned in the page I linked above Aug 07 13:52:05 Is it able to connect three bbb's to one pc ? i have some problems with that Aug 07 13:52:08 Because the methods using the uart pins give u the full console Aug 07 13:52:45 HansPeterKonrad_: you might have brownouts if they're all on the same USB hub. Aug 07 13:52:58 (every USB host is a hub) Aug 07 13:53:25 I would probably configure one, then unplug and use Ethernet Aug 07 13:53:32 Do again for the second Aug 07 13:53:41 And again for the third Aug 07 13:53:47 but they need power ? Aug 07 13:54:11 now they get the power from the usb cable and they are connected to inet with ethernet Aug 07 13:56:25 kona: why is my ifconfig saying that i have no inet ipadr only ether and a hex Aug 07 13:58:05 Yes. And the hub in your computer probably tops out at 2A and each BBB "requires 1A" according to the system reference manual Aug 07 13:58:36 so i need three 5V power cable ? Aug 07 13:58:39 If you have a second hub in the computer (ports on the front vs ports on the back are an indicator that this might be the case) Aug 07 13:58:55 You might be able to get away with power via USB Aug 07 13:59:08 But otherwise, you need 3 power cables, yes. Aug 07 13:59:27 should i plug in 2 in front 1 in back ? Aug 07 13:59:36 If u want to plug in peripherals, you want 5V cables rated for at least 2A Aug 07 13:59:44 You can try that for now. Aug 07 13:59:58 But you're better off with a discrete power supply for each. Aug 07 14:00:19 okay Aug 07 14:00:39 i got know the problem again with my 3rd board that it wont connect to the pc Aug 07 14:00:49 HansPeterKonrad_: re ether, did you reconfigure environment and connmam Aug 07 14:01:14 i added the http_proxy=... Aug 07 14:01:20 Connman* or dhclient after re-flashing? Aug 07 14:01:20 i got connection to inet normaly Aug 07 14:02:20 jonnyw2k: looks like your MMC doesn't have U-Boot Files. Aug 07 14:02:50 tbr: i wanted to kill some of the spambots Aug 07 14:03:16 tbr: unfortunately, i also need to set +n, which is prevented by mlock Aug 07 14:03:18 jonnyw2k: sorry, your uSD. Aug 07 14:03:36 KotH: channel was +$~a already though Aug 07 14:03:59 kona: i got two problems, one bbb is not connecting to pc and its again the last one i tired to set and one is that the ip of bbb2 is ether hex and not ip adr Aug 07 14:05:49 started with bbb3 it worked then shutdown it, start bbb2 all worked instead of ipadr but no shutdown and bbb1 is not connecting only flashing all 4 LED'S Aug 07 14:06:01 @kona it does... U-Boot SPL 2018.03-00002-gac9cce7c6a (Apr 05 2018 - 13:07:46 -0500) Aug 07 14:06:14 is the U-Boot is on the SD card Aug 07 14:06:40 yeah, i'm still trying to wrap my head around what might be wrong and whether missing uboot.env is ok Aug 07 14:06:41 U-Boot SPL 2014.07-rc4-00015-g5bcd74d (Jul 04 2014 - 16:03:33) is the U-Boot from the eMMC Aug 07 14:08:35 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Aug 07 14:09:15 HansPeterKonrad_: ok, for bbb2, try working through https://wiki.debian.org/DHCP_Client Aug 07 14:09:22 KotH: make sure to set +e *!*@gateway/* Aug 07 14:09:52 HansPeterKonrad_: for the one that won't connect to pc, i'm going to need you to cleanly shutdown your other two bones: sudo shutdown -h now Aug 07 14:10:08 and then unplug the other two bones from the pc so that we know it's not a power issue. Aug 07 14:10:50 what of the things should i do first ? :D Aug 07 14:11:15 aptitude is not a command from the tutorial Aug 07 14:13:53 wtf.. Aug 07 14:14:17 jonnyw2k: what method did you use to make the uSD? Aug 07 14:14:41 HansPeterKonrad_: you can use apt instead of aptitude. and you probably should. Aug 07 14:14:57 (i like aptitude but most of the recipes use apt) Aug 07 14:15:10 used win32 image, and etcher Aug 07 14:15:17 trying a different image now Aug 07 14:15:53 which image are you writing? Aug 07 14:16:24 HansPeterKonrad_: i'd start with the network issue since that board is mostly working and we hvae solved it beofre. Aug 07 14:16:57 @KotH -t ? Aug 07 14:18:09 kona: do i have to do the last step of the tutorial ? or is it enough to uncommand the lines Aug 07 14:18:37 yeah it works so Aug 07 14:18:50 i got an ip adr at eth0 behind inet now Aug 07 14:19:09 so i will save and shutdown this that we can go on with the second issue ? Aug 07 14:19:25 HansPeterKonrad_: ok. Aug 07 14:20:10 make note of which two ports you were using that worked. Aug 07 14:20:20 what do you mean ? Aug 07 14:20:21 use those ports for the bbb that won't connect? Aug 07 14:20:30 we know those ports work. Aug 07 14:20:53 so lets use one. either way, you need to replug the non-working one so it can ask for power again. Aug 07 14:20:53 hm i can try but i dont think this is the issue Aug 07 14:21:24 it might not be, but if power is an issue you'll need to at least replug the bbb so that it can re-enumerate Aug 07 14:22:52 still all 4 lights are flashing and no connection to pc Aug 07 14:23:02 jonnyw2k: i used the bone-debian-9.4-iot-armhf-2018-06-17-4gb.img yesterday and wrote it with dd(1), no issues. which image are you using? Aug 07 14:23:19 the one you just said Aug 07 14:23:22 (admittedly mine is a revA3 beaglebone white) Aug 07 14:23:31 mine is a clone lol Aug 07 14:23:40 a legit clone Aug 07 14:23:43 but still a clone Aug 07 14:24:04 cool, which one? Aug 07 14:24:18 HansPeterKonrad_: ok. Aug 07 14:24:46 https://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-54131/l/embest-bb-black-development-platform-based-on-ti-sitara-am3358-processor-exclusively-for-china Aug 07 14:26:52 kona: as i said the last time i reflashed it and it works but i think this issue will come over and over again Aug 07 14:28:51 HansPeterKonrad_: is it working now or no? Aug 07 14:28:56 no Aug 07 14:29:11 i would have to reflash but i think the problem would come again Aug 07 14:29:30 same board? Aug 07 14:29:39 no bbb1 now Aug 07 14:29:42 jonnyw2k: stupidity Aug 07 14:29:43 ^^' Aug 07 14:30:02 the last time i set up bbb1 then bbb3 and then bbb2 didnt work Aug 07 14:33:28 kona: what should i do ? Aug 07 14:34:52 HansPeterKonrad_: have you any usb to 3.3V serial cables? Aug 07 14:37:35 alternatively, a 5V 2A power cable with 5.5mm connector, positive tip? Aug 07 14:38:25 if the former, we can try to see if the serial console says anything. if the latter, we can try to see if the issue is power via usb. Aug 07 14:38:51 i think the serial cable would be better, though, because you've somehow been able to re-flash using usb power. Aug 07 14:39:09 jonnyw2k: any luck? Aug 07 14:41:08 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 14:41:08 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 14:41:08 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 14:41:13 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 14:41:16 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 15:01:53 note to self, lips are conductive and FTDI leads are powered Aug 07 15:06:40 jonnyw2k: ow? Aug 07 15:07:56 jonnyw2k: probably AC to ground, at least most laptops, especially when not grounded have a floating voltage on them Aug 07 15:08:34 current is very very low, so you only notice when you create a low resistance ground path Aug 07 15:09:14 nah desktop Aug 07 15:09:24 think it was 3v3 to gnd through lip Aug 07 15:09:25 also at least you didn't get "hot lips" (RF burns from a shortwave transmitter microphone) Aug 07 15:09:29 like licking a 9v battery Aug 07 15:09:37 ah, yeah, that would work too Aug 07 15:10:48 citrusy. Aug 07 15:10:51 :) Aug 07 15:31:58 swapped SD cards same issues Aug 07 15:32:02 and images Aug 07 15:32:09 think I need to swap boards lol Aug 07 15:39:23 weird Aug 07 15:42:38 wait. you have a beaglebone black, right? Aug 07 15:44:50 yeah Aug 07 15:46:15 ok, and you tried etcher. i'm not sure what else to try, unless you can transfer it to another *nix and use dd. Aug 07 15:46:33 but etcher should work. Aug 07 18:01:19 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 18:01:19 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 18:01:19 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 18:01:23 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 18:01:27 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 18:02:59 So I'm looking for a very high-capacity lipo compatible with the beaglebone blue. Any recommendations? Aug 07 18:36:37 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 18:36:37 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 18:36:37 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 18:36:41 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 18:36:45 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 18:36:51 jkridner[m]: spambots are back, unfortunately :( Aug 07 18:38:17 how'd they get in this time? Aug 07 18:39:20 "#beagle n n MODE cannot be set due to channel having an active MLOCK restriction policy" Aug 07 18:39:56 they must be validated through nickserv somehow though, yes? Aug 07 18:40:05 tbr: got new hints? Aug 07 18:40:50 No NickServer here Aug 07 18:41:24 tbr, zmatt: can you see output from "ds2000"? Aug 07 18:41:31 yes Aug 07 18:41:40 hmm. Aug 07 18:41:56 * jkridner can't recall the magic foo and don't know why itmight have disappeard. Aug 07 18:58:47 jkridner: I'm filtering spam client side and https://beagleboard.org/irclogs/ has nothing, is it dead? Aug 07 18:59:01 probably.... use http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/beagle.txt Aug 07 19:00:05 tbr: how do I set the flags again? Aug 07 19:00:36 /mode +qe $~a *!*@gateway/* Aug 07 19:02:02 <__jojo__> Is it necessary to use tftp method to build/boot linux kernel imgae & dtb ? Sd-card method also does the same: https://www.digikey.com/eewiki/display/linuxonarm/BeagleBone+Black#BeagleBoneBlack-SetupmicroSDcard Isn't it ? Aug 07 19:02:42 __jojo__: tftp might be more convenient if you need to iterate a lot Aug 07 19:03:33 <__jojo__> Iterate as in recompile and deploy again ? Aug 07 19:03:37 yes Aug 07 19:04:06 e.g. when you have to constantly rebuild the kernel to test bugfixes or develop a driver or such Aug 07 19:04:22 <__jojo__> Ah, so tftp method would also require USB-TTL cable to configure the uboot ? Aug 07 19:04:59 <__jojo__> I have a Beaglebone Black Wireless actually. Aug 07 19:04:59 tbr: is there a way I can print all the settings? Aug 07 19:05:03 I don't think so. you should be able to set up the uenv for it to do tftp and everything runs by itself Aug 07 19:05:18 __jojo__: ah, no tftp for you Aug 07 19:05:43 technically you could probably tftp over USB Aug 07 19:05:48 <__jojo__> Could you please point me any links/articles/blogs to refer ? Aug 07 19:06:00 or send U-Boot / kernel via serial Aug 07 19:06:34 __jojo__: jkridner might know. I haven't done such shenanigans on the BBB Aug 07 19:07:14 <__jojo__> I referred this: http://www.cs.sfu.ca/CourseCentral/433/bfraser/other/DriverCreationGuide.pdf Aug 07 19:07:33 <__jojo__> And it says you *need* to differnet connections Aug 07 19:07:57 <__jojo__> 3.1 Supported Connections Aug 07 19:08:01 having access to UART if you do low level things is essential Aug 07 19:08:13 alone for debugging and understanding what happens Aug 07 19:08:16 <__jojo__> "It is not possible to use Ethernet over USB (passthroguh) for working with UBoot" Aug 07 19:10:14 <__jojo__> I need some article/blog to refer and try for *BBBW*. Do you know of any such resource ? Aug 07 19:11:11 basically everything that uses ethernet doesn't apply, everything else will work Aug 07 19:13:43 <__jojo__> So, maybe setting up with microSD card seems a better option for now. Aug 07 19:15:40 __jojo__: it definitely *is* possible to have the beaglebone load u-boot via tftp over usb rndis Aug 07 19:16:10 but if you just want to test linux systems it's probably more convenient to keep the bootloader on sd card instead Aug 07 19:16:17 (or eMMC) Aug 07 19:17:02 <__jojo__> Actually, I wanted to test my driver which recently got merged into the mainline kernel. Aug 07 19:17:41 I probably wouldn't bother with any netboot stuff for that, just copy the kernel onto the system and reboot Aug 07 19:18:03 <__jojo__> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/next/linux-next.git/commit/?id=1b3bd8592780c87c5eddabbe98666b086bbaee36 Aug 07 19:18:34 <__jojo__> Now, what would you recommend to test the sensor ? Aug 07 19:19:18 ? Aug 07 19:19:43 you're asking me how you should test *your* driver? Aug 07 19:19:48 o.O Aug 07 19:20:31 <__jojo__> how do I build/boot the kernel while my patch applied. tftp or sd card method ? Aug 07 19:21:20 I always use rcn's kernel build scripts which produce a debian package I can simply install Aug 07 19:22:31 <__jojo__> install using apt-get ? Aug 07 19:22:34 dpkg -i Aug 07 19:23:02 <__jojo__> Could you point me those scripts ? Aug 07 19:23:18 https://github.com/RobertCNelson/bb-kernel (pick branch corresponding to kernel series you want) Aug 07 19:24:54 <__jojo__> Would it allow me to apply my patch on the top ? Aug 07 19:26:43 yes, what I do is I create a directory patches/local with my custom patches, and add the following line to patch.sh: dir 'local' Aug 07 19:27:32 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 19:27:36 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 19:27:40 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 19:27:43 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 19:27:47 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 19:27:54 alternatively you can first build the kernel normally, then apply your patch manually in the KERNEL subdirectory it creates (which contains the kernel tree), and then run tools/rebuild_deb.sh Aug 07 19:29:43 <__jojo__> Do I also need to copy modules,dtb, etc manually ? Or this script does it for you ? Aug 07 19:44:30 it's all included in the debian package Aug 07 19:46:57 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 19:47:01 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 19:47:05 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 19:47:08 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 19:47:12 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 19:54:34 ah, blessed silence. thanks, /filter add. Aug 07 20:02:07 __jojo__: don't send private messages Aug 07 20:03:13 __jojo__: and no, you just run tools/rebuild_deb.sh to build the debian package, copy that to the beaglebone, and then do sudo dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb Aug 07 20:03:22 I mean, after patching Aug 07 20:22:03 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 20:22:07 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 20:22:11 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 20:22:15 Oh, and about those donations she speaks of: https://twitter.com/ISCdotORG/status/1025461692132519936 Aug 07 20:22:18 Don't support freenode and their ICO scam, switch to a network that hasn't been co-opted by corporate interests. OFTC or efnet might be a good choice. Perhaps even https://matrix.org/ Aug 07 20:44:09 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 20:44:09 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 20:44:09 Consider Andrew Lee's involvement, Andrew Lee is Christel's boss at London Trust Media and he also controls the majority of freenode voting rights. Andrew Lee also heads the handshake ICO scam. Coincidence? Aug 07 22:07:54 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 22:19:02 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 22:19:02 This blog is essentially an ad for the Handshake ICO scam with a one-line "denial" of involvement mixed in there. It's obviously very unethical of Christel to not mention her own involvement in the scam which the blog post promotes. Aug 07 22:26:15 Christel just posted this "denial" on the freenode blog https://freenode.net/news/spam-shake Why does this blog post mention "10.2 million" THREE times? Aug 07 22:39:05 Fuchs: I'm just a channel op, not freenode staff. don't know how to add +n Aug 07 22:39:09 * jkridner thinks he should op tbr Aug 07 22:39:11 tbr: If I op you, can you fix? Aug 07 22:39:42 it's a trap. Aug 07 22:42:40 jkridner: /mode #beagle +n doesn't work? Aug 07 22:42:50 nope. Aug 07 22:43:06 It's mlocked in. Aug 07 22:43:06 "#beagle n n MODE cannot be set as the channel has an active MLOCK restriction (see /msg chanserv help MLOCK)" Aug 07 22:43:14 why on earth is there an mlock -n ? o.O Aug 07 22:43:34 anyway you can change the mlock via chanserv Aug 07 22:43:48 help request replies "ChanServNo help available for MLOCK." Aug 07 22:44:26 lol, yeah it's "help set mlock" Aug 07 22:44:37 okay that's weird, -n is the *only* mlock on this channel Aug 07 22:44:42 how on earth did it get there? Aug 07 22:44:55 it's really weird for a channel to be -n, let alone mlocked to be so Aug 07 22:48:09 is +q set here? Aug 07 22:48:58 jkridner: there are a bunch of +q entries Aug 07 22:49:07 how do I see them? Aug 07 22:49:13 jkridner: /mode #beagle +q Aug 07 22:51:00 hmmm.... I don't see tbr's suggested settings there. Aug 07 22:51:51 I do Aug 07 22:51:55 k Aug 07 22:52:19 at least I see the +q $~a Aug 07 22:52:35 I can't see whether the +e *!*@gateway/* is there since I'm not an op Aug 07 22:54:07 (apparently you need to be a channel operator to list ban exceptions, which makes sense I guess) Aug 07 22:57:08 it is there. Aug 07 22:57:25 hopefully spam begone! \o/ Aug 07 22:57:39 zmatt: Ie both require that. Aug 07 22:57:45 k, so $~a matches all non-authenticated? Aug 07 22:57:45 that == being opped. Aug 07 22:58:57 jkridner: yeah, the +q rule makes all unauthenticated users quiet, the +e one makes an exception for gateway users (webchatters), and the +z makes the blocked messages visible to ops Aug 07 22:59:19 k, I think it all makes sense to me now. Aug 07 23:00:01 +n makes sure users who aren't here can't send messages here... basically every irc channel on the planet has +n enabled and it's a complete and utter mystery to me how or why it was forced off by an mlock here Aug 08 00:24:15 jkridner: zmatt: long overdue mode tidyup?! lol Aug 08 00:24:35 :-) Aug 08 00:24:48 ah yes, Unit193 will be redundant now :D Aug 08 00:26:20 jkridner: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/extbans - linked to me over the weekend .. Aug 08 00:27:01 those were definitely new on me Aug 08 00:27:51 lack of +n the reason those users who (seemingly) weren't here were showing up? Aug 08 00:29:07 I think +n is "no external messages" ie. you can't notice the channel when you're not In it .. Aug 08 00:29:07 often used for bots Aug 08 00:29:40 I know a channel where they have -t .. so you can just walk in and change the topic .. pisses the ops right off :D Aug 08 00:29:46 I usually do it just for fun every now and again Aug 08 00:29:50 irc 101 ftl :p Aug 08 00:30:13 *ALL* of my chans are always +nts (sometimes +p but +s supercedes that iirc) Aug 08 00:30:45 freenode defaults to +c (strip colours) which .. idkwtf Aug 08 00:32:46 sounds like a good default to me Aug 08 00:38:45 Hello... Aug 08 00:38:50 This is set_. Aug 08 00:38:57 I could not use set_ any longer for some reason. Aug 08 00:39:00 Anyway...enjoy! Aug 08 00:39:16 what do you mean? Aug 08 00:39:21 I tried. Aug 08 00:39:34 did you lose your account information? Aug 08 00:39:41 It seems I have lost it Aug 08 00:39:44 Yes. Aug 08 00:39:51 I can try again, though. Aug 08 00:39:53 Should I? Aug 08 00:40:13 And have milti as my backup? Aug 08 00:40:20 you can have nickserv email you your password by using: /msg nickserv sendpass set_ Aug 08 00:40:26 Okay. Aug 08 00:40:29 Please hold. Aug 08 00:40:31 assuming you provided an email address when registering Aug 08 00:40:42 I did. I just cannnot remember which one just yet. Aug 08 00:40:47 Oops! Aug 08 00:41:12 and in case you're not sure how to configure your client: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl Aug 08 00:41:24 I got it! Aug 08 00:41:28 It sent me a password. Aug 08 00:41:43 Sometimes you surprise me on how much you have learned. Aug 08 00:42:38 brb Aug 08 00:45:20 Boo-Ya! Aug 08 00:45:45 Guess who is back? Aug 08 00:45:49 Me! Aug 08 00:46:14 anyway...thank you for not allowing all that SPAM crap to take place. Aug 08 00:47:08 also, this is not a matter of knowledge, just extremely basic problem-solving skills. I simply go "oh, lost password? surely nickserv has some way to cope with that. /msg nickserv help .. oh, "sendpass" sounds promising ... /msg nickserv help sendpass ... yep, that's it!" Aug 08 00:47:25 Oh. Aug 08 00:47:26 Okay. Aug 08 00:47:31 You know nothing, right. Aug 08 00:47:32 Come on. Aug 08 00:47:49 I was lost in a frequent base of confusion over this mess. Aug 08 00:47:53 I didn't know *this particular thing* Aug 08 00:47:58 Oh. Aug 08 00:47:59 before I checked, and then I knew Aug 08 00:48:02 I got you now. Aug 08 00:48:24 I will check before completing new stuff next time (if this ever takes place again). Aug 08 00:48:58 milti is a good name, right? Aug 08 00:49:35 In case thieves steal my name from me. Aug 08 00:49:45 brb Aug 08 00:53:38 it's a name Aug 08 00:55:04 Fine. Aug 08 00:55:30 #pocoo was having this issue too. Aug 08 00:55:43 spam you mean? it's all over freenode Aug 08 00:55:48 Oh...yea. Aug 08 00:55:51 Spam. Aug 08 00:56:03 pretty annoying, I hope they find a good solution Aug 08 00:56:07 I was reading up on it on their main page for freenode. Aug 08 00:56:08 Me too. Aug 08 00:56:52 Maybe that person will get caught. Aug 08 00:57:03 And they can then say, "No more for you on Freenode." **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Aug 08 03:00:01 2018