**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 22 02:59:58 2018 Nov 22 03:13:58 <\dev\cache> anyone in here familiar with X15?. Nov 22 03:16:12 \dev\cache: just ask your question and have patience. plenty of knowledgeable people here, but they'll typically only occasionally glance at chat Nov 22 03:16:55 <\dev\cache> well I want to know what are my options for Operating Systems, and Boot devices, is esata the only fastest option?, Nov 22 03:17:06 <\dev\cache> for the X15 please, thank you. Nov 22 03:18:31 operating systems: the default distro is debian. you can probably get any linux distro for armhf working if you put in sufficient effort Nov 22 03:19:35 boot devices: typically you'd boot from eMMC or SD card. I know eSATA should work in theory but I don't know if it actually does currently (iirc there were some issues with it) Nov 22 03:20:57 a variety of other boot methods such as network boot should also be possible Nov 22 03:21:34 (but may require non-trivial effort) Nov 22 03:26:30 <\dev\cache> so what is installed by default in the 4gb emmc isn't it Debian? Nov 22 03:26:42 yes, that's what I said Nov 22 03:26:51 "the default distro is debian" Nov 22 03:27:44 <\dev\cache> anyone in here an electronic engineer, can lend a quick hand in repect to the chip that the 4gb emmc is on?, perhaps if there is alternative I could use to soldier on that would provide additional space hopefully 8gb or 16gb? Nov 22 03:28:13 <\dev\cache> zmatt, I was confirming that its already on the emmc, as I had read somewhere. Nov 22 03:28:36 <\dev\cache> zmatt: thank you. Nov 22 03:29:28 replacing the eMMC is something that some people may be able to do, but it sounds unnecessarily risky to me. why not use a microsd card or some other external storage? Nov 22 03:30:53 <\dev\cache> zmatt: its not risky, I have a hot air station takes two seconds clean removal, can put a new one in with soldiering iron within 5 min, Nov 22 03:30:55 <\dev\cache> its trivial Nov 22 03:31:10 okay, so what's your question? Nov 22 03:31:14 <\dev\cache> ive read, emmc is faster than ssd. Nov 22 03:31:48 <\dev\cache> zmatt: additional question, say i delete contents of the emmc, is there a distro image and instructions to reinstall? Nov 22 03:31:53 that's a nonsensical statement in that it'll depend entirely on the devices Nov 22 03:31:58 emmc can be very slow Nov 22 03:32:34 yeah reflashing is easy Nov 22 03:33:38 <\dev\cache> have you compared speeds on an x15 emmc vs sd? Nov 22 03:33:45 you download the latest image for the X15 from https://beagleboard.org/latest-images (or the latest testing image from https://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian ) Nov 22 03:33:51 wait, did you mean sd or ssd? Nov 22 03:33:55 those are rather different things Nov 22 03:35:35 the max interface speed for eMMC is probably higher than for uSD Nov 22 03:36:15 of course whether you can saturate the interface or not will depend on the eMMC device or uSD card used Nov 22 03:38:40 <\dev\cache> zmatt: would you happen to have any experience with that ? Nov 22 03:42:05 https://pastebin.com/raw/ZQue1Vjf Nov 22 03:42:18 quick test of bulk sequential write and read on eMMC Nov 22 03:42:33 I'm pretty sure neither of those numbers saturates the interface Nov 22 03:43:00 <\dev\cache> so i take, it you did not bother using microSD? Nov 22 03:43:20 eMMC works fine for me Nov 22 03:43:37 I have about 1.4G in use Nov 22 03:44:36 <\dev\cache> interesting, and do you use gui or all cli? Nov 22 03:46:12 I connect to it via ssh Nov 22 03:53:07 <\dev\cache> I dont mind using VNC but I would like a small simple desktop so i can do few simple tasks. Nov 22 03:53:24 I don't have any sort of desktop environment installed on it Nov 22 03:54:57 simple tasks like what? Nov 22 03:58:16 oh btw I just noticed... "can put a new one in with soldiering iron within 5 min" .. how exactly is a soldering iron going to help with a BGA ? :) Nov 22 05:35:16 Hi guys, anyone tell me the diffrence between VDD5v and Sys5v pins in beaglebone black??.. Nov 22 13:35:15 Hi, I have released used the latest sdk 5_1_0_11 version to boot my beaglebone black Nov 22 13:35:48 here I tried the u-boot 2018.01 with config "am335x_boneblack" Nov 22 13:35:58 which I usually used to use Nov 22 13:36:39 but, this time hangs and repeats printing U-Boot SPL 2018.01 (Nov 22 2018 - 16:25:02) Trying to boot from MMC1 Nov 22 13:36:50 any ideas please Nov 22 13:37:06 where as am335x_evm defconfig works fine Nov 22 13:37:17 "sdk 5_1_0_11" sounds very TI-ish Nov 22 13:37:49 if you have problems with TI SDKs, then asking on e2e is probably your best bet Nov 22 13:37:50 for questions regarding TI's Processor SDK use TI's support forum: https://e2e.ti.com/support/processors/f/791 Nov 22 13:38:39 * LetoThe2nd warms bbb a bit by doing evil xenomai tests :-) Nov 22 13:48:41 LetoThe2nd: have you said "muahahaha" out loud? otherwise it's not truly evil Nov 22 13:49:34 zmatt: of course. and i played some really, really bad durch happy hardcore from the late 90s when starting the test run. 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