**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 07 02:59:57 2019 May 07 06:01:46 Hi **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 07 17:20:43 2019 May 07 18:23:45 yo May 07 18:24:00 why aren't you serving the beagle images via torrent? May 07 18:24:08 takes for ages to download! May 07 20:04:28 yo yo yo May 07 20:07:11 I saw where Win will have a full-blown kernel in it starting this summer. Yowzers! May 07 20:07:28 set_: ? May 07 20:08:01 Yes. May 07 20:08:11 Linux Kernel! May 07 20:08:21 Not just Azure. May 07 20:09:16 you're speaking random words, I have no idea how they are supposed to assemble into a coherent sentence May 07 20:09:25 hello sirs, quick Q. Seems like my BBGW doesn't boot and run from the SD-card, as Im not able to SSH in and run "sudo apt-get update". The error message is that there is no more space, what might I be doing wrong? May 07 20:09:25 Okay. May 07 20:09:40 ! May 07 20:09:46 bosse: based on the error, I'd suspect there's no more space :P May 07 20:10:25 zmatt: Please hold. I will find the info. May 07 20:11:01 zmatt, yeah, but there is a 32GB sd-card in the slot, so there should be space, right? May 07 20:11:28 bosse: you probably didn't expand the filesystem to cover the whole card. there's a script for that in /opt somewhere May 07 20:11:33 https://www.techradar.com/news/microsoft-is-finally-bringing-linux-to-windows-10 May 07 20:11:35 There. May 07 20:12:26 bosse: note that if you've previously done an apt-get upgrade that failed halfway through due to running out of space, you may want to consider first reflashing your sd card to get into a clean state again :P May 07 20:12:35 Now, I can compile on this 'puter instead of those dead-beat 'puters over in the other room. May 07 20:12:36 (with the latest stretch-iot image preferably) May 07 20:12:50 ah, cool May 07 20:13:01 bosse: also, if you're running from sd card rather than eMMC, I strongly recommend wiping eMMC using "sudo blkdiscard /dev/mmcblk1" May 07 20:13:22 this avoids weird problems that may occur if there's a version mismatch between the bootloader on eMMC and the linux system on sd card May 07 20:13:51 (if no bootloader is present on eMMC, the beaglebone will use the bootloader on sd card, hence no version mismatch can occur) May 07 20:14:11 ah, there is no space left to run sudo blkdiscard /dev/mmcblk1 ;) May 07 20:14:29 I'll simply flash the sd again May 07 20:14:34 first reflash your card to get into a working state May 07 20:15:36 yeah, thanks May 07 20:15:36 using the stretch-iot image is recommended over the stretch-lxqt image unless you absolutely want a desktop environment on the beaglebone itself (which generally doesn't run particularly well anyway) May 07 20:15:49 zmatt: did you read the article or look it up yet? May 07 20:16:02 set_: no since I'm helping bosse atm May 07 20:16:06 Oh. Yes. May 07 20:16:07 Okay. May 07 20:16:18 Oops. My issue, not your issue. Got it! May 07 20:16:21 yes 😃 thanks zmatt May 07 20:16:48 bosse: I think /opt/scripts/tools/grow_partition.sh is the script to expand the filesystem to span the whole sd card May 07 20:17:11 alternatively, here are manual instructions that I know will work: https://pastebin.com/ThmLM0pX May 07 20:18:02 and I do this through ssh, right? May 07 20:18:07 yes May 07 20:20:36 Hey? Is there any headway on the AI thingy from bbb.io? May 07 20:20:58 sure, it's being worked on May 07 20:21:03 Yea boy! May 07 20:21:25 I cannot wait. More room to goof up all my projects! 16GB! May 07 20:21:58 I am going to invest in one for my next adventure. May 07 20:22:11 Plus! I can learn some ideas revolving around a new chip. May 07 20:22:23 and, and May 07 20:22:27 M3! May 07 20:22:38 they're making a new WSL variant that's basically just a VM? odd May 07 20:22:43 M4 May 07 20:22:45 See. May 07 20:22:57 Oh. Is the M4 supposed to be the new idea? May 07 20:23:17 the AM572x has four cortex-M4 cores, no M3 cores May 07 20:23:49 (along with four PRU cores, two DSPs, four EVEs, and the dual-core cortex-A15) May 07 20:23:54 I have two books on that subject, M4 core. I cannot wait. For real. I tried to switch boards b/c of a M4 core. May 07 20:24:11 why'd you want to use the M4 cores? May 07 20:24:11 The people fell short of good ideas. May 07 20:24:19 To learn more. May 07 20:24:35 I want to use M4 cores to learn more. May 07 20:26:09 EVE is something completely different than what I thought it was. May 07 20:26:21 Embedded Vision Engine? May 07 20:27:15 it's basically just another kind of auxiliary core, but strongly focussed on SIMD-heavy processing such as image/video analysis May 07 20:27:23 although it's in no way limited to that of course May 07 20:27:28 Okay. May 07 20:28:19 and that WSL2 thing you linked to sounds kind of like a bummer... a step down from improving the WSL1 architecture May 07 20:29:34 There are more ideas circulating but the idea is that "WSL2" thing is supposed to take over what has been available. May 07 20:29:37 Which is... May 07 20:29:45 but maybe it'll turn out less disappointing than it sounds right now... we'll see May 07 20:29:55 Oh. Yea. Maybe. May 07 20:30:17 it definitely elicits zero excitement from me May 07 20:30:44 zmatt: The way to use only some of the Linux commands in Win. has been some software or to compile the Open Source software on the Win. computer. May 07 20:30:54 I know what WSL is May 07 20:31:04 and the current WSL works quite well May 07 20:31:39 which is why it puzzles me that they'd give up on it and instead just run a linux kernel in a VM May 07 20:33:25 The Linux Kernel, I am pretty sure, is an added bonus for Win. users. The old stuff, powershell and other emulators, will still be around but now it will come w/ the kernel, too. May 07 20:34:08 In any manner...I think this will help me since my good 'puter (that actually works well) runs a v. of Win. May 07 20:34:33 I don't see any reason to be excited about this. running linux in a VM is something you could have been doing a long time already, what made WSL interesting was the low overhead and tight integration into windows May 07 20:35:14 but we'll see May 07 20:35:40 Oh. check theverge.com for other info. if that last link was less than appitizing. May 07 20:36:13 I followed the link to the blog post from microsoft, which is more interesting than random ad-filled "tech" sites May 07 20:36:30 zmatt; it worked! thanks May 07 20:36:35 woot May 07 20:38:39 Yea. That blog post, which was ad filled, was not as informative. May 07 20:38:57 Maybe going to microsoft or linux would be a better bet. May 07 20:39:37 ? what are you talking about? there were no ads on microsoft's blog May 07 20:40:06 http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/EVE is what I found on the EVE. May 07 20:40:08 Oh. May 07 20:40:20 I figured you searched their site. May 07 20:40:31 no I just clicked on the link May 07 20:40:36 Oh. May 07 20:40:45 https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/shipping-a-linux-kernel-with-windows/ May 07 20:41:13 that wiki page on EVE is probably quite old... also it seems to be gone May 07 20:41:21 Right. May 07 20:41:41 I know TI came out w/ a new "wiki" but I do not find it in search results constantly. May 07 20:42:55 Anyway...I will check out that link you gave. May 07 20:43:43 if you search around a bit I'm sure there are high-level overview talks about EVE May 07 20:44:19 Right. I will keep searching. Do you think that these EVE would be a good bet for making a bot understand what a pole is? May 07 20:44:34 Yes...pole! May 07 20:45:56 via vision? May 07 20:46:13 ehm May 07 20:46:48 that's more a matter of finding (and mastering) suitable softwar May 07 20:46:51 e May 07 20:47:40 Okay. May 07 20:47:47 No issue. I guess you are right. May 07 22:12:57 has anyone experienced that UPM is not installed?! May 07 22:33:45 "UPM" ? May 07 22:59:39 bosse: what's "UPM" ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 08 02:59:56 2019