**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 07 03:03:04 2020 Mar 07 03:03:40 Yes the hub comes with USB cable which plugs into BBB. wifi plus into hub. power up hub. Mar 07 03:03:51 Nice. Mar 07 03:03:56 Okay. I will try tonight. Mar 07 03:04:01 Yes the hub comes with USB cable & power which plugs into BBB. wifi plus into hub. power up hub. Mar 07 03:04:09 Okay. Mar 07 03:04:31 I get it but I never once thought that I had to put the wifi adapter into the powered usb hub. Mar 07 03:04:45 I used the just the board usb port. Mar 07 03:04:48 yea the BBB actually say both devices via lsusb Mar 07 03:05:07 ? Mar 07 03:05:09 oH. Mar 07 03:05:38 I got you. Mar 07 03:06:59 Well it draws a bit power and gets a little warm to the touch probably pulling down BBB power. wifi adapter has a green led thats blinks once configured and flashes quickly with data so you know something is happening. Mar 07 03:08:11 idiot lights i like it. like the micro center flash drives with activity led Mar 07 03:08:32 Yea. Mar 07 03:08:53 I understand the whole idea behind it and yes they get real hot, i.e. even on desktops. Mar 07 03:09:04 I am plugged in and ready to do it. Mar 07 03:09:08 Please hold. Mar 07 03:11:28 Work good & led 2 units 128GB https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K84M4G9/ Mar 07 03:13:13 Work good & led 2 units $18 >>128GB https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K84M4G9/ Mar 07 03:14:09 Work good & led 2 units $10 >>64GB https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K84M4G9/ Mar 07 03:15:00 Work good & led 2 units $10 >>64GB https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K84M4G9/ This is the one I use to burn ISO images. Mar 07 03:16:51 Work good & led 2 units $9 >>16GB https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K84M4G9/ This is the one I also use to burn ISO images. Mar 07 03:17:33 I use Universal USB Creator to burn ISO images Mar 07 03:18:18 Okay. Mar 07 03:18:29 Hey, I cannot get my board up right now. Please hold. Mar 07 03:20:39 My BBGW is taking over every, well the other one, board I have plugged in. It will not allow me to sign in on the other board. Mar 07 03:20:40 Odd? Mar 07 03:28:22 Okay. Well, I got signed in. I am updating first. Mar 07 03:29:50 I see a lot of firmware stuff being updated in the upgrade. Nice. Mar 07 03:33:59 Sign in on OTHER board? Lost connection Mar 07 03:34:16 Yep... Mar 07 03:35:46 Liz Warren dropped out of Pres. office. Says it's sexist cause?? Mar 07 03:36:21 Yep. Mar 07 03:36:33 OTHER board. xplain... Mar 07 03:36:44 I am waiting on some upgrades to finish up. Mar 07 03:36:53 It is on 98% and I am waiting. Mar 07 03:36:58 sexist i don't think so Mar 07 03:37:44 It was Bernie's big eyes most likely. Mar 07 03:37:46 THere. Mar 07 03:38:06 How did U choose set_ ? By mistake? Mar 07 03:38:24 Why do you ask? Mar 07 03:38:35 no reason Mar 07 03:38:49 Well, it found something. My name is Seth. Mar 07 03:39:03 That is why. Mar 07 03:39:03 lsusb found something. Mar 07 03:41:40 ever noticed some times the "backspace key" dosen't backspace but displays ^H ?? Mar 07 03:41:47 false alarm. Mar 07 03:41:49 Nope. Mar 07 03:41:58 connmanctl does not find anything. Yet. Mar 07 03:48:33 Show up in lsusb like Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter or similar? Mar 07 03:50:35 No. Just some 5848:2838 Mar 07 03:50:47 scan wifi then services Mar 07 03:50:59 I did. I cannot even get usb networking right now. Mar 07 03:51:21 I goofed something up. It only works w/ ethernet plugged in. Mar 07 03:51:30 nothing about Realtek bababa RTL8188EUS ? Mar 07 03:51:30 Nope. Mar 07 03:51:33 I am getting a new image. Mar 07 03:51:38 Sheesh. Mar 07 03:51:46 Is it blinging Mar 07 03:51:50 Yep. Mar 07 03:52:10 Candy Blue LEDs all day! Mar 07 03:52:31 Is it blinking. is it Reatek. Blue lights? Mar 07 03:53:10 Oh. My Wifi adapter, no. Mar 07 03:53:14 my unit has a green led Mar 07 03:53:31 My wifi adapter is generic but I have got onlin w/ it before today. Mar 07 03:53:34 New image! Mar 07 03:53:45 Or... Mar 07 03:53:57 i don't think it's the imge Mar 07 03:54:04 I can plug in the ethernet and you can walk me through the /etc/network/interface file. Mar 07 03:54:19 It is not. I changed something w/out backing up. Mar 07 03:54:59 is yous BBB powered by power supply? if yes try plugging it directly bypassing hub Mar 07 03:56:01 Let me say this again. I need ethernet to get online for usb networking b/c I "hacked," and poorly, the interface file at /etc/network/. Mar 07 03:57:30 I did not want to admit it but too late. Mar 07 03:57:36 I just formatted the SD Card. Mar 07 03:58:18 Here is my file http://paste.debian.net/1133847/ Mar 07 03:59:31 Okay. I will try everything from scratch now. Thank you. Mar 07 04:00:57 here is mine with ethernet there but commented out http://paste.debian.net/1133848/ Mar 07 04:01:47 Okay. Mar 07 04:01:55 there are my comments in the last file Mar 07 04:02:07 I usually just use connmanctl but I can try that file once more. Mar 07 04:03:24 See file and read my comments re ethernet Mar 07 04:03:31 Yep... Mar 07 04:03:37 I saw it and read it. Mar 07 04:04:35 I like to document stuff Mar 07 04:05:13 Smart Mar 07 04:07:30 I have another file I use to burn S images. Cancels timout messages http://paste.debian.net/1133849/ Mar 07 04:09:22 Here is one I use to clean logs http://paste.debian.net/1133850/ Mar 07 04:09:48 I am booting now. It should be up and running shortly. Mar 07 04:10:35 I have to reboot after running the bbb.io script for expanding the partition before updating/upgrading the device. Mar 07 04:10:46 Random/normal. Blah. Mar 07 04:11:11 You running out of SD card and not eMMc? Mar 07 04:11:20 Yep. Mar 07 04:11:58 oh. take a gander at the other script i uploaded Mar 07 04:13:04 How do you do an upgrade? Since you are on SD? Mar 07 04:13:19 sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade Mar 07 04:13:41 I have an ethernet cable is the worst comes to worst. Mar 07 04:13:51 isn't the SD slower then eMMc? Mar 07 04:13:56 Barely. Mar 07 04:14:04 I do not think it is noticeable. Mar 07 04:14:20 So what do you do with eMMc Mar 07 04:14:33 Nothing as of now. I am waiting to learn more. Mar 07 04:14:58 The modular SD Card makes it easy to plug and play w/ different OSs. That is nice. Mar 07 04:15:34 In the future I may upload for you other scripts. Like tomorrow Mar 07 04:15:44 Otay. Mar 07 04:16:34 23:15 time to backup & shutdown for the night. Sumday roll your clock ahead Mar 07 04:16:40 Later for now. Mar 07 04:16:53 see ya Mar 07 11:04:22 Can you please give some basic work examples, so that i can get proper idea Mar 07 13:22:33 greetings, Didn't know this channel existed. Is it possible to use BBB for digital to analog? Mar 07 22:08:07 m Mar 07 22:50:13 hm, I was wondering whether there will be new beagleboards based on arch64 cores? Mar 07 22:53:14 embden[m]: you already asked that and I gave an answer Mar 07 22:53:32 (and you responded, so you did see my reply) Mar 07 22:54:13 zmatt: yes, I wanted to clarify the reason why I asked: arch64 cores Mar 07 22:54:40 that's not a clarification, you asked the exact same thing Mar 07 22:54:49 23:20:49 <+embden[m]> zmatt: will there be beagleboard with arm64? Mar 07 22:55:26 zmatt: then, I wanted to clarify for someone else:) Mar 07 22:56:22 what's so important about having a 64-bit arm core? Mar 07 22:56:45 zmatt: better support of virtualization by vendors Mar 07 22:59:05 ? virtualization is supported on any arm cortex-A core with virtualization extensions, which iirc is all but the first three (cortex-a8, a9, and a5) Mar 07 23:00:27 of course next question would be why you'd want virtualization on an embedded system... seems like a waste of (usually limited) resources Mar 07 23:00:48 zmatt: yeah, but in xen some pepole don't really believe that virtualization on arm32 is something serious Mar 07 23:03:11 I doubt that has much to do with the architecture, but rather the fact that 32-bit arm cores are typically used in applications where virtualization is rarely of relevance Mar 07 23:03:37 arm-based servers probably use 64-bit arm cores Mar 07 23:07:59 sounds like xen is fully spported on 32-bit arm though? Mar 07 23:10:00 zmatt: yes, I believe so Mar 07 23:10:26 ok, so..? Mar 07 23:11:28 zmatt: I believe that virtualization will be slow and painful on arm32 Mar 07 23:11:38 at least, I am going to try and see Mar 07 23:11:40 based on? Mar 07 23:12:12 I don't see how 32-bit vs 64-bit would be of particular importance for virtualization performance Mar 07 23:14:00 zmatt: I believe that most of the modern socs are 64-bit. Mar 07 23:15:01 is that supposed to be a reply to my question, or did you just feel like sharing some random beliefs? Mar 07 23:16:10 what exactly is your application for which this matters? Mar 07 23:17:46 zmatt: I want to try to run both android and linux simultaneously Mar 07 23:18:09 on an embedded system? .. why? Mar 07 23:19:50 why on embedded? Just a computer with android and linux to assess what can be done with virtualization Mar 07 23:25:52 sounds like you'd better have a lot of time available to invest, since I'm pretty sure android needs the gpu, so you'd almost certainly need to add specific support for it in the hypervisor (you can't simply pass it through to the OS since it's a bus-mastering device hence the hypervisor needs to intervene in its mmu setup) Mar 07 23:36:06 if this is something you want to play with, you may want to try to explicitly look for an existing platform where something resembling the scenario you're envisaging is already known to work, or at the very least rumored to be kinda working :P Mar 07 23:38:33 basic virtualization will get you VMs like those on a server... your virtual display, if it has one, is probably some software-emulated VGA monitor ;) passing through actual hardware devices to VMs is a different story Mar 07 23:39:37 zmatt: yes, I have a lot of time to invest :) Mar 07 23:40:19 well, that's at least something :) Mar 08 00:51:30 zmatt ? Mar 08 00:55:13 zmatt, Got an old WD USB passport drive runing on the BBB. Is it possible to install aps. onto that instead of the eMMc? Mar 08 01:34:11 Hi set_ Mar 08 01:34:25 Hello... Mar 08 01:34:34 Got an old WD USB passport drive runing on the BBB. Is it possible to install aps. onto that instead of the eMMc? Mar 08 01:34:34 I am in for the night. Mar 08 01:34:45 How! Mar 08 01:35:22 External USB WD drive plugged into the mini hub Mar 08 01:36:23 fdisk'd it then mkfs's it then made entry into fstab Mar 08 01:37:22 s it possible to install aps. onto that instead of the eMMc?;D Mar 08 01:38:17 I made it with 4 partions each 128GB Mar 08 01:39:40 Nice. Mar 08 01:39:49 I do not know. Mar 08 01:39:57 I never once tried that ave. Mar 08 01:40:45 I have 4 of these drives from my old location in CT. when I was runnung NT Mar 08 01:41:50 That hub is earning its money now boy...=L Mar 08 01:42:45 If interested i'll upload a couple of scripts i use Mar 08 01:43:09 Oh. No issue. Mar 08 01:43:13 brb. Dinner! Mar 08 01:43:59 Scripts to setup drive and make backups of my data Mar 08 01:46:41 Got this dirty script to give me just IP address of wlan0 Mar 08 01:47:59 ip addr show wlan0 | grep "inet " | cut -f1 -d'/' | sed "s/ inet //" Mar 08 01:48:41 set_ ?? Mar 08 01:50:47 Found out how to stop cloud9 to keep people out, and restart it when needed... Mar 08 01:53:43 Yea. Mar 08 01:53:49 Oh? Mar 08 01:54:34 So, you figured out how to backup the image too? Mar 08 01:54:57 I have never used the cut command once. Mar 08 01:54:59 Hmmm. Mar 08 02:01:09 Try that command line above Mar 08 02:01:49 Why should I? Mar 08 02:02:01 I mean... Mar 08 02:02:07 What does it do? Mar 08 02:02:43 It gets the IP address only for wlan0 Mar 08 02:02:48 Oh. Mar 08 02:03:03 It is okay. I do not need it. I like bugs at times. Mar 08 02:03:23 You know, prying eyes never hurt anyone. Mar 08 02:03:32 You like bugs at times? Mar 08 02:04:07 using dhcp it's handy to get current ip Mar 08 02:04:28 its a bug-eat-bug world. Mar 08 02:04:31 Ha. Mar 08 02:05:21 I mean...if I wanted, I would just use sudo apt remove c9-core-installer. Mar 08 02:05:31 And rid myself of the entire program. Mar 08 02:05:50 But, they have some nice examples that people took time out to make. Mar 08 02:05:53 it is okay by me. Mar 08 02:06:30 Depending on my system, I might erase it or just use it to see what bbb.io peoples come up w/ next. Mar 08 02:07:47 The one issue w/ removing c9 is that it gets rid of bonescript too. Mar 08 02:08:14 So far, bonescript is the only hardware dependent workings for the header pins on the AI. Mar 08 02:13:10 Well cloud9 I was playing with a couple of examples Mar 08 02:13:48 Now to install apps. onto USB device Mar 08 02:18:12 Do it! Mar 08 02:22:12 If I can figure out how to. Normally apt install wants to put it on the eMMc or SD card Mar 08 02:25:31 Oh. Mar 08 02:25:35 Yea. u-boot! Mar 08 02:25:53 I am sure you have to rearrange the output in uboot. Mar 08 02:26:15 But...I am not sure. Mar 08 02:29:36 KenUnix: Do you think you can do that from the commandline? Mar 08 02:33:19 Time will tell Mar 08 02:37:32 Nice and neat. I hope you do it and do it a lot. Mar 08 02:40:49 good night Mar 08 02:47:42 Wait! Mar 08 02:47:44 Fine. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 08 03:01:09 2020