**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 30 03:00:00 2020 Mar 30 03:02:12 that would be the USB virtual network method of connection Mar 30 03:02:55 Well tomorrow's another day... Mar 30 03:03:17 good night Mar 30 03:03:31 you can login using ssh and use apt .. indeed rest well Mar 30 03:04:18 Yes I use ssh all the time from xshell6 Mar 30 03:04:48 I also use putty Mar 30 03:05:30 Good night :] Mar 30 13:56:07 m Mar 30 14:06:23 m2u Mar 30 16:21:31 Hi @zmatt! You helped me with device tree stuff the other day. You gave me a device tree for four spi devices to try. I tried to compile it and got a syntax error. The message reads: Error: BB-SPIDEV1-00A0-FOURSPI.dts:1.1-2 syntax error Mar 30 16:21:42 FATAL ERROR: Unable to parse input tree Mar 30 16:21:50 might you know why? Mar 30 16:21:56 here is the device tree you provided Mar 30 16:22:07 https://pastebin.com/raw/HK66h2Qb Mar 30 16:22:27 Its taken me a couple days to be able to get back to this project Mar 30 16:22:53 the problem is you're not using my makefile Mar 30 16:23:24 save it as BB-SPIDEV1-00A0-FOURSPI.dtsi (not .dts), then do "make BB-SPIDEV1-00A0-FOURSPI.dtbo" Mar 30 16:24:09 oh thats right Mar 30 16:24:13 shoot thank you Mar 30 18:54:12 Hey all! Mar 30 18:54:42 So I am a little late to the game. But I still would like to give it a shot. Mar 30 18:55:35 Quick question : I apply on the gsoc website with my proposal. How do I go about adding that to elinux before? Mar 30 19:20:29 Narayan: there's a separate channel for gsoc questions, #beagle-gsoc Mar 30 19:23:38 sorry Mar 30 22:40:52 Hello Mar 30 22:45:57 A client has done a cape for a BBB, it has a DS1307 RTC, but they didn't wire it to i2c signal pins, they just wire them to GPIOs. Do you know if there is an I2C driver controlled by gpio? Mar 30 22:49:06 for Raspberry there is i2c-gpio and it's enabled in dtoverlay at boot, I think. Does something like that is available for BBB? Mar 30 23:17:23 Okay...so, I think, to GenTooMan, my circuit was incorrect. I have been getting some feedback on ideas revovling around the RelayCape. Mar 30 23:18:02 I will have to solder the LED in question so I can have a sure fire testing of this specific LED w/ the RelayCape. Mar 30 23:18:47 My aligator clips are "not kosher" clips. I need something more stable. Mar 30 23:36:52 we all need something also it is difficult to see whats happening from my perspective :) Mar 30 23:48:19 GenTooMan: No issue. No complication on my end. Mar 30 23:48:22 Alive and kicking! Mar 30 23:49:17 well hopefully you will short fewer things Mar 31 00:23:40 ds2: I am finally watching the SCaLE 18x "episodes" on Youtube.com. I am in 45 or more minutes into it. I just watched a fellow discuss SCRAM and PostGreSQL authentification. Mar 31 00:24:32 I think the fellow discussing the SCRAM attributes was excited to get out and he seems to be worthy of 45 minutes of live presentation. Mar 31 00:24:34 Neat! Mar 31 00:36:53 Why is everything about PostGreSQL? Mar 31 00:48:52 because it's for big stuff whereas SQLight is for things like fire fox or small systems that don't involve billions of points of data Mar 31 00:54:23 Oh. Mar 31 01:01:06 I am not sure I understand... Mar 31 01:01:20 Why would one use psql or sqlight? Mar 31 01:02:14 To get up and running wherever whenever? Mar 31 01:04:42 I was learning SQlight a while back but it hit me, "Why learn anything about databases?" I could not answer it for some reason. Mar 31 01:04:59 "Stick and grab, boy!" Mar 31 01:17:01 GenTooMan ? Mar 31 01:19:33 You guys? Mar 31 01:19:41 My BBB is on w/ the RelayCape! Mar 31 01:20:03 soldering this highly bright LED will be done soon and I can move on w/ testing. Mar 31 01:20:35 I received some nice people supporting the Cape on google groups. Mar 31 01:21:01 Oh and... Mar 31 01:21:14 I cannot forget the mfg. of the Cape, GHI. Mar 31 01:21:25 They, on their forums, pitched in too. Mar 31 01:22:06 GenTooMan - Thanks for putting me onto nmap Mar 31 01:22:39 set_ How about some links... Mar 31 01:23:51 set_ If I use vnc to access BBB why would I need ports 5800,5900 open in firewall? Mar 31 01:24:20 Never mind duh. Mar 31 01:24:24 Oh. Mar 31 01:24:26 You got it? Mar 31 01:24:51 One strange port is open 6646. Mar 31 01:25:00 Hmm. Mar 31 01:25:42 I do not know everything about ports. You can turn it on and off w/ your firewall to see what exactly it is or type some command. Mar 31 01:26:00 If my P.C. has 5800,5900 open does that mean someone from outside could access my pc? Mar 31 01:26:02 Like w/ ss, nmap or another one. Mar 31 01:26:16 Someone can always access your PC. Mar 31 01:26:23 What is your PC name? Mar 31 01:26:25 ha. Mar 31 01:26:39 Oh! C194811 Mar 31 01:26:57 Do not give out your pc name, ever! Mar 31 01:27:05 Change it now. Mar 31 01:27:18 A network scan will see it Mar 31 01:27:18 Seriously. Mar 31 01:28:05 Windows, P.C. netowrk. it's there Mar 31 01:28:06 Actually, changing your PC name constantly will provide you w/ another level of securit-I! Mar 31 01:29:29 Actually I have network discovery disabled ow. Mar 31 01:29:59 https://www.linux.com/topic/networking/introduction-ss-command/ will help you on commands w/ ss for disabling and enabling ports. Mar 31 01:30:19 That should be very helpful since you are asking about ports. Mar 31 01:31:10 https://wiki.debian.org/Uncomplicated%20Firewall%20%28ufw%29 <<< easy-peasey firewall for Debian... Mar 31 01:31:29 You can allow specific ports and change what is allowed versus what is not allowed. Mar 31 01:31:33 Figured out why I could not get node-red working. Last version of Debian it was called node-red.service now its called nodered.service X-P Mar 31 01:31:40 You can do it on your BBB, too! Mar 31 01:31:51 OH. Mar 31 01:31:57 instead of all these crazy ideas about firewalls, how about understand and be responsible for things we run Mar 31 01:32:28 A sound reasoning but I like to test new things. No offense. Mar 31 01:32:57 That's getting harder. Technology is moving too fast Ds28) Mar 31 01:34:33 ufw no good for BBB or Windows which has McAfee here Mar 31 01:35:13 What? ufw is good for the BBB and you can use it w/ Linux. Mar 31 01:35:30 However 'ufw' came in handy with Linux Mint to open port 22 Mar 31 01:36:25 test things in a closed environment Mar 31 01:36:30 I passed out today. I don't know whats going on '=( Mar 31 01:36:54 KenUnix: not really.... learn about how to say read "netstat -anp" Mar 31 01:37:13 that tells who/what is listening then understand why. if it is unacceptable, disable that. Mar 31 01:37:19 Well in my case Mint is a VM on my laptop vie Oracle virtualbox Mar 31 01:37:20 KenUnix: Get medical help. ds2: What do you mean when you type "closed environment?" Mar 31 01:38:00 set_: non internet connected. prehaps everything readonly and easy to reset.... a simple way is a vm connected to a non routed network Mar 31 01:38:05 then look at the traffic it generates Mar 31 01:38:12 Oh. Mar 31 01:38:19 Okay. None? Mar 31 01:39:18 I ufw'd my website. No more crawlers and scrappers. Mar 31 01:39:39 I was catching thousands of visitors. Now, one or two per day. Mar 31 01:39:50 Slow motion. Neat? Mar 31 01:40:41 I still get only odd calls, though. I think people are trying to sell my insurance as an automation. Ha. Mar 31 01:42:27 Aw come on Linux Mint shows 226 entries....D: Mar 31 01:43:14 D: Mar 31 01:43:48 OK set_ back to the BB Relay Cape links....X) Mar 31 01:43:52 X) Mar 31 01:44:57 I still get only odd calls, though. I think people are trying to sell my insurance as an automation. Ha.:') Mar 31 01:45:01 :') Mar 31 01:45:12 It is odd but I answer. Mar 31 01:46:24 Well I am now the proud recipient of Span email >.< Mar 31 01:46:35 Nice. Did your BBB send it? Mar 31 01:47:07 I was trying to learn .pl files on my BBB. It did not go so well but I learned how to send emails w/ them. Mar 31 01:47:20 .pl files get complicated and quickly. Mar 31 01:47:47 But...the email .pl file was supprisingly simple. Mar 31 01:47:56 HaHa. No some outfit pushing vitamins and they say Chromium is goood for you\O/ Mar 31 01:48:47 Send email with your Relay Cape. ummmm. What's you smoking? Mar 31 01:54:10 Hey...I can w/ the BBB. I can send email w/ what happens w/ the actuator usage from my RelayCape. Mar 31 01:54:44 So, if the actuator turns orange or moves left, the email or website can be notified. Mar 31 01:56:42 Now there's a perfect use. Mar 31 01:58:28 I want to see some hard core infomation on getting Relay Cape to work... (y) Mar 31 01:59:28 I just noticed ufw was not running on my Mint? Restarting to check it. Mar 31 02:00:25 Oh. I have a long way to go. The Cape works but I need to invest in aligator clips or I need to solder something to this LED for use. Mar 31 02:00:58 I can make each connection w/ each relay and make the LED show lit onboard the Cape. Mar 31 02:01:17 I just have had bad luck w/ my routing of wires so far. Mar 31 02:01:22 Yea,, but what do you do to operate ralays? -_- Mar 31 02:01:30 So, aligator clips it will be. Mar 31 02:01:32 Source. Mar 31 02:01:55 I do source to operate relays. I run some source to operate them. Mar 31 02:02:21 Is me running source to operate relays what you meant? Mar 31 02:02:43 On Mint it r-booted and ufw is up. Wonder how it got disabled? 8) Mar 31 02:03:40 Yes. Please let me see source X) Mar 31 02:04:41 It is a bonescript source run by node myfile.js on the BBB. This way, I can test it. It is basically the bbb.io peoples LED script. Mar 31 02:04:52 Let me see. Mar 31 02:04:54 Please hold. Mar 31 02:07:20 https://pastebin.com/ETRB79Js is the changed version but I got it from that book. Mar 31 02:07:29 hey Mar 31 02:07:45 I cannot find the package qemu-img Mar 31 02:07:59 apt-file search came up with nothing Mar 31 02:08:35 apt-cache search? Mar 31 02:09:58 KenUnix: I lied a bit on that source. I am using a BBB and not a BBGW. Mar 31 02:10:56 Isn't qemu a package for Windows? Mar 31 02:11:03 no Mar 31 02:11:12 It is a universal package! Mar 31 02:11:14 you can emulate windows with it Mar 31 02:11:23 its like virtual box but better Mar 31 02:11:46 after sinking 3 days trying to build qt5 from source i gave up Mar 31 02:11:58 so now I am just going to qemu an arm image Mar 31 02:12:01 and do my work in there Mar 31 02:12:16 i think that is what zmatt told me to do from the begining Mar 31 02:12:19 Better? I tried qemu a while back on Windows and it was not as secure as Virtualbox Mar 31 02:12:22 but I am hard hedder Mar 31 02:12:35 headed Mar 31 02:12:39 Did you read Molloy's book on QEMU and Win/Linux? Mar 31 02:12:51 I think you can do more with qemu Mar 31 02:12:58 I did but his stuff is so damn old Mar 31 02:13:03 He had a couple chapters in there about it. Mar 31 02:13:15 I think he has made his money and has not kept up with it Mar 31 02:13:17 he did Mar 31 02:13:30 I think books are a foundation/base and it is up to us to promote new findings. Mar 31 02:13:34 but not super useful he sacrifices any debt to give you a nice overview Mar 31 02:13:43 Right. Mar 31 02:13:48 Convert this convert that share devices. Virtualbox made it much easier Mar 31 02:14:13 I do not think VB could emulate a BBB Mar 31 02:14:36 MattB00ne: Did you try apt-cache search? Mar 31 02:14:37 ok so I need qemu-utils Mar 31 02:14:48 or qemu-block-extra Mar 31 02:14:59 but I keep getting this error after it finds the package Mar 31 02:15:39 https://pastebin.com/M7Du0bLH Mar 31 02:15:43 how do I fix Mar 31 02:15:56 I tried the suggestions Mar 31 02:16:30 what command did you give? Mar 31 02:17:40 try apt-cache search qemu <<<< try this and see what comes back and maybe get Debian instead of Ubuntu? Mar 31 02:17:52 Looks like the files are not there Mar 31 02:18:27 KenUnix: Did you see the source? Mar 31 02:18:41 The latest Linux Mint is now based on Debian. LMDE4 Mar 31 02:19:30 Yes, but I was thinking something along the lines in c++ Mar 31 02:20:11 I am on mint now Mar 31 02:20:22 19.3 Mar 31 02:21:19 Look I know C, C++, Bash scripting, Fortran, Cobol, bwbasic and I not prepared to learn yet another language! Mar 31 02:21:35 Mint 19.3 is based on Ubuntu Mar 31 02:21:36 would debian have more or less packages than unbuntu Mar 31 02:21:40 Okay. Mar 31 02:21:51 i just switched distros from arch Mar 31 02:21:56 ARGGHHHH! Mar 31 02:22:01 If something is Debian based, I would say so. Mar 31 02:22:17 Can't say. Just installed LDME4 two days ago Mar 31 02:22:17 so more packages? Mar 31 02:22:28 what did you have before Mar 31 02:22:53 Debian has a bunch of packages. What package are you looking to attain? Mar 31 02:23:02 qemu-utils Mar 31 02:23:11 Mint 19.3 and Ubuntu 20.04 Mar 31 02:23:14 I was trying to compile qt5 and ran into package issues Mar 31 02:23:23 why did you switch Mar 31 02:24:06 MattB00ne: sudo apt-cache search qemu-utils Mar 31 02:24:13 I like to try OS"s. I also have Debian, Linux Lite, Kali loaded on VMs' Mar 31 02:24:16 You will see if it is available. Mar 31 02:24:28 how can I search debian caches Mar 31 02:24:48 brb Mar 31 02:24:50 apt should work or try dpkg Mar 31 02:25:47 My poor laptop has 425GB used Mar 31 02:26:17 I use Clonezilla to make backup images Mar 31 02:29:06 Try sudo dpkg -S Mar 31 02:30:16 not there Mar 31 02:30:48 i need the command qemu-img Mar 31 02:32:56 the only thing that comes up is qemu-utils Mar 31 02:34:41 can I install it from this Mar 31 02:34:42 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+package/qemu-utils Mar 31 02:34:57 how come this not coming up in apt Mar 31 02:35:19 Debian has it. I just typed sudo apt-cache search qemu Mar 31 02:35:37 One package that came back was qemu-utils Mar 31 02:36:46 Actually, I may have not used sudo. Let me check again. Mar 31 02:37:05 yep, no sudo. Mar 31 02:37:13 how come my apt install fails but that website seems to have it Mar 31 02:37:21 launchpad.net Mar 31 02:37:31 You have to set up the ppa: account first. Mar 31 02:37:45 So, let me find a site. Mar 31 02:37:58 why don't you use sudo apt search qemu ? Mar 31 02:39:05 You should see it all Mar 31 02:39:47 try this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/BuildArmPackages and I will get another one in the meantime that shows how to set up your ppa for usage on the dev. desktop. Mar 31 02:40:21 On LMDE4 apt search qemu shows Mar 31 02:40:33 qemu-utils - QEMU utilities Mar 31 02:42:56 What are you trying to run qemu on? Mar 31 02:42:59 http://www.iasptk.com/use-launchpad-ppa-ubuntu/ shows how to set up the ppa for use and how to delete it if it fails you. Mar 31 02:43:38 That wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/BuildArmPackages site is old news. I would go directly to the QEMU site. Mar 31 02:44:51 Gee maybe I can run qemu on my VM running LMDE4 Mar 31 02:48:05 If you are trying to turn packages into ARM packages, I would say you have your work cut out for you. Mar 31 02:48:13 Ever use Samba on a BBB? Mar 31 02:49:15 Easily transfer files between P.C. and BBB Mar 31 02:49:24 Me? no. Mar 31 02:49:28 I have not. Mar 31 02:50:07 i tried with qt5 and gave up Mar 31 02:50:18 with qemu i would not have too Mar 31 02:50:46 I will just install the flasher into the qemu image and install what I need there Mar 31 02:51:33 Good luck. I never got qemu working. I tried before but failed. It is a long, well documented package. Mar 31 02:51:49 qemu.org has a lot of docs. to read. Mar 31 02:52:39 This site, https://www.qemu.org/docs/master/, shows many ideas related to qemu and how to adjust your package settings. Mar 31 02:52:51 Godspeed! Mar 31 02:54:20 thank you Mar 31 02:54:24 this is my last attempt Mar 31 02:54:39 if this faild I am just doing all dvelopment on the beagle =( Mar 31 02:55:01 anyone see they have new beagle images coming out this week Mar 31 02:55:36 What is wrong w/ developing on the BBB? Mar 31 02:55:42 Oh. The speed? Mar 31 02:56:16 yeah Mar 31 02:56:19 speed Mar 31 02:56:25 you guys read this Mar 31 02:56:25 https://beagleboard.org/blog/2020-03-09-new-beagleboard-debian-image-release-cycle Mar 31 02:56:38 It is no quad-core i7/amd or whatever but you can do files pretty quickly. Now, something like tons of files needing to compile can take a while. Mar 31 02:57:11 You know what's a good read "Building Networks and Servers Using BeagleBone" Mar 31 02:57:59 I once compiled openCV on a BBB. WHy? No clue. Was it worth it, no. Was it satisfying, yes! Mar 31 02:58:15 LOL Mar 31 02:59:25 I even recorded audio/video w/ it. Mar 31 02:59:41 I got to save my file and everything. All from the BBBW. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 31 02:59:57 2020