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Apr 02 03:00:19 <zmatt> yeah bridging to a wifi connection theoretically shouldn't work
Apr 02 03:00:48 <KenUnix> It's OK for now. Another question. what ports need to be open to run nmap ?
Apr 02 03:01:37 <set_> 5v 2A for power adapters on the BBB is always a good choice, right?
Apr 02 03:01:38 <zmatt> port mapping is just for servers, which nmap isn't
Apr 02 03:02:06 <set_> 10w is the current power rating, correct?
Apr 02 03:02:17 <zmatt> however the presence of NAT might break some functionality of nmap depending on what you use it for (it has a lot of functionality)
Apr 02 03:02:18 <KenUnix> but or nmap to run don't you need ports open?
Apr 02 03:02:27 <zmatt> what do you mean by "open"
Apr 02 03:03:27 <KenUnix> Well if i do  nmap -l 192.168.55.131   it needs ports open in the firewall, yes?
Apr 02 03:04:15 <set_> 1A! Yikes
Apr 02 03:05:33 <zmatt> KenUnix: nmap has no -l option
Apr 02 03:07:21 <zmatt> and again what do you mean by "open" ?  if you're referring to inbound connections (to servers) then the answer is that it (probably) needs none.  outbound firewalling probably breaks nmap entirely
Apr 02 03:07:45 <set_> Woot!
Apr 02 03:08:58 <KenUnix> Runninh nmap as nmap -l -Pn 192.168.55.131 from BBB works
Apr 02 03:10:25 <zmatt> what's the -l ?  I see no such option in its --help nor its documentation
Apr 02 03:11:07 <KenUnix> My bad forget -l
Apr 02 03:11:58 <KenUnix> maybe BBB will be my network sniffer
Apr 02 03:12:26 <zmatt> apparently virtualbox bridging to wifi works for some people and not others
Apr 02 03:15:14 <zmatt> I still haven't been able to figure out whether it's using proxy ARP or some other magic
Apr 02 03:15:48 <KenUnix> That's one thing I like BBB is not bound by firewall's.
Apr 02 03:16:09 <zmatt> I mean, that depends on whether you have a firewall enabled or not
Apr 02 03:16:19 <zmatt> same as on every other computer system
Apr 02 03:20:18 <KenUnix> I ran Zenmap for Windows & McAfee asked me if it's ok to allow. I clkcked always.
Apr 02 03:20:35 <zmatt> ok yeah, I've found definite confirmation that virtualbox uses proxy arp for "bridging" to a wifi connection
Apr 02 03:20:55 <zmatt> which means it should work with any wifi adapter, so I'm not sure why people have mixed results
Apr 02 03:23:33 <zmatt> source: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#network_bridged
Apr 02 03:23:59 <KenUnix> Nmap 7.60  working on Zorin VM
Apr 02 03:24:28 <zmatt> (they don't use the literal words "proxy arp" but that is what they're describing in the note about bridging to wireless adapters)
Apr 02 03:25:50 <KenUnix> Soo all is right with the world. Thanks zmatt. Time to hit the scak.
Apr 02 03:26:19 <zmatt> well it means bridging *ought* to work, which avoids having to deal with NAT and port mapping
Apr 02 03:26:35 <KenUnix> I copyed that Oracle document for later review
Apr 02 03:27:34 <KenUnix> Good night
Apr 02 06:05:28 <Vinay> hello
Apr 02 06:06:10 <Vinay> shello
Apr 02 06:06:12 <Vinay> hello
Apr 02 06:06:23 <Vinay> i need some help in beaglebone
Apr 02 06:07:54 <Vinay> hello
Apr 02 06:08:20 <Vinay> i need  help regarding beaglebone
Apr 02 07:54:22 <deepankarmaithan> Hello Everyone.  I want to setup QEMU with BeagleBone support on my ubuntu machine. I found some articles on internet. But just wanted to ask if anyone can share a tried and tested link  where i can look the steps to setup one.
Apr 02 07:54:22 <deepankarmaithan> I want to test some LKMs on the machine
Apr 02 07:55:56 <zmatt> deepankarmaithan: qemu can't emulate a beaglebone
Apr 02 07:57:05 <zmatt> the best you might be able to do is emulate some generic ARM system
Apr 02 08:02:54 <deepankarmaithan> okay thanks
Apr 02 08:04:25 <deepankarmaithan> i came across this post https://www.cnx-software.com/2011/09/26/beagleboard-emulator-in-ubuntu-with-qemu/
Apr 02 08:05:14 <zmatt> yeah there was some effort on emulating the omap3 and the beagleBOARD (not bone), although that work never reached mainline qemu and is now abandoned
Apr 02 08:07:32 <deepankarmaithan> hmm not a good news for me. Anyways thanks
Apr 02 08:08:00 <zmatt> and would probably be of little to no use if one wanted to give qemu the ability to emulate the am335x (or more likely, just enough functionality of the am335x to be able to boot a minimal kernel)
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Apr 02 10:06:41 <Guest64579> I am looking for a price on the below as my customer is looking to design it in to a project BBONE-BLACK-IND-4G  BBONE-BLACK-IND-4G
Apr 02 10:07:16 <zmatt> this is a community support channel, not a sales channel
Apr 02 10:07:45 <Guest64579> thanks
Apr 02 10:07:52 <zmatt> you should contact element14
Apr 02 10:10:10 <zmatt> (or just look on their website, which specifies the price and when it's available again, but you're already gone anyway)
Apr 02 10:20:17 <set_> Yea boy!
Apr 02 10:20:31 <set_> The industrial is nice.
Apr 02 10:20:39 <set_> Extra temps.
Apr 02 10:35:45 <set_> The powerswitchtail II has been retired. No!
Apr 02 10:43:59 <set_> Maybe the fellow got tired of making it. I contacted the person responsible for the retiring. Who knows? I may get a reply one day.
Apr 02 15:19:23 <kremlin> m
Apr 02 19:18:49 <Joshua5526> Hello guys.  I am trying to add a default gateway with the etc/network/interfaces file but after I reboot and check with the command route the gateway is set to 0.0.0.0   If I manually set the default route with sudo route add default gw 192.168.7.1 then it works.
Apr 02 19:21:46 <Joshua5526> The /etc/network/interfaces looks like this https://justpaste.it/2e8el
Apr 02 19:22:58 <Joshua5526> I just updated the BeagleBone Black to BeagleBoard.org Debian Image 2019-08-03
Apr 02 19:41:08 <rah> there's a comment here https://wp.josh.com/2018/06/04/a-software-only-solution-to-the-vexing-beagle-bone-black-phy-issue/#comment-13450 which says: "At some point they added code to Linux to search for the PHY if it was not where it was supposed to be, and then use it where ever they happened to find it. This made it so the ethernet now would work if the only thing that got messed up in the PHY at boot was
Apr 02 19:41:14 <rah> the address"
Apr 02 19:41:56 <rah> was that added to the mainline kernel, or the beagleboard.org kernel?
Apr 02 20:04:56 <rah> I'm guessing they're talking about https://github.com/RobertCNelson/linux-dev/blob/master/patches/drivers/ti/cpsw/0001-cpsw-search-for-phy.patch
Apr 02 20:37:42 <rah> rcn-ee alleges that this patch is superceded by a u-boot patch https://github.com/u-boot/u-boot/commit/20c37fb1bfb9f20804645b2199699cd815a4d55c
Apr 02 20:38:45 <rah> but I've just update u-boot using /opt/scripts/tools/developers/update_bootloader.sh and I'm still seeing the problem
Apr 02 20:39:51 <rah> *updated
Apr 02 20:40:32 <rah> U-Boot 2019.04-00002-g07d5700e21 (Mar 06 2020 - 11:24:55 -0600), Build: jenkins-github_Bootloader-Builder-137
Apr 02 20:40:39 <rah> urgh
Apr 02 23:26:30 <dreamhiker> .
Apr 02 23:26:38 <GenTooMan> !
Apr 02 23:29:08 <dreamhiker42> I have a PRU question. I have a signal that goes between 0 and 1.3V. I used to pickup this signal using
Apr 02 23:29:12 <dreamhiker42> config-pin  p8.29 in+
Apr 02 23:29:41 <dreamhiker42> but there is no config-pin  p8.29 pruin+
Apr 02 23:29:52 <dreamhiker42> what do I do?
Apr 02 23:31:42 <GenTooMan> zmatt has an online resource for PRU accessible pins.. let me check where it is.
Apr 02 23:32:54 <dreamhiker42> it is pru-accessible
Apr 02 23:33:03 <dreamhiker42> pruiin is fine
Apr 02 23:33:10 <dreamhiker42> pruin+ does not work
Apr 02 23:33:51 <dreamhiker42> Invalid mode: pruin+
Apr 02 23:42:52 <GenTooMan> where you using config-pin ? Examining it there is nothing labelled "pruin+" abd p8.29 is JUST pruin
Apr 02 23:54:21 <dreamhiker42> config-pin  p8.29 in+              - is valid
Apr 02 23:59:39 <GenTooMan> interestingly on my BBB their is no P8_29 under /sys/devices/platform/ocp
Apr 03 00:00:28 <GenTooMan> so it might be already owned on startup by something
Apr 03 00:08:44 <GenTooMan> It's owned by SPI1 which is the HDMI audio source. you will have to disable that on boot to use it.
Apr 03 01:38:25 <set_> I waited.
Apr 03 01:41:20 <set_> Fri. fun day is tomorrow. RelayCape!
Apr 03 01:42:03 <KenUnix> Yea boy (y) (y)
Apr 03 01:42:42 <KenUnix> Do me a favor see if mail is up.  www.gmail.com  I thnk it's down..
Apr 03 01:43:54 <KenUnix> Do me a favor see if gmail is up.  www.gmail.com  I think it's down.. Yuk!
Apr 03 01:45:39 <set_> Please hold.
Apr 03 01:45:41 <set_> I will check.
Apr 03 01:46:09 <set_> Mine workeths.
Apr 03 01:46:22 <set_> I am being biblical about google!
Apr 03 01:46:49 <set_> gmail works.
Apr 03 01:47:23 <set_> Well, at least it does on my end.
Apr 03 01:47:29 <KenUnix> My goole is timeing out
Apr 03 01:47:38 <set_> Odd. How are you reaching them?
Apr 03 01:47:43 <set_> BBB?
Apr 03 01:48:02 <KenUnix> Over wifi just like this
Apr 03 01:48:06 <set_> I know sometimes w/ google and the BBB, you have to set permissions.
Apr 03 01:48:07 <set_> OH.
Apr 03 01:48:09 <set_> Okay.
Apr 03 01:48:12 <set_> Odd.
Apr 03 01:48:33 <set_> Google and their third party app permissions stuff needs to be set correctly.
Apr 03 01:48:37 <KenUnix> It stopped working about an hour ago
Apr 03 01:48:55 <set_> Hmm. Maybe you need to unplug your router and wait 15 minutes.
Apr 03 01:48:59 <set_> I mean modem.
Apr 03 01:49:00 <set_> SOrry.
Apr 03 01:49:22 <set_> Unplug your modem and wait for 15 minutes and then plug it in again.
Apr 03 01:49:38 <set_> You should have a new ip address after that you can work w/.
Apr 03 01:51:15 <set_> I am going to make a turret. I am going to use a toy DC motor to shoot things out of it. What should the BBB control to shoot out of the turret?
Apr 03 01:51:20 <KenUnix> No modem wifi. I'm going to try a reboot I'll be back
Apr 03 01:51:29 <set_> Okay. Peace!
Apr 03 01:51:56 <set_> Like nerf or balls?
Apr 03 01:54:24 <set_> Maybe baseballs, like for practicing?
Apr 03 01:58:55 <set_> I think the trick will be getting two motors to turn at the exact same speeds.
Apr 03 02:01:29 <KenUnix> I'm back. What a pain. 2 factor authentication :@ :@
Apr 03 02:01:34 <set_> Oh.
Apr 03 02:01:47 <set_> You?
Apr 03 02:01:53 <set_> Ha.
Apr 03 02:02:05 <KenUnix> Authemtication this :b :b
Apr 03 02:02:12 <set_> BoY!
Apr 03 02:02:41 <KenUnix> I found out why  bone101 was not oming up on BBB
Apr 03 02:03:00 <set_> KenUnix: Is this so-called RelayCape showing its presence tomorrow or what?
Apr 03 02:03:02 <set_> Oh.
Apr 03 02:03:07 <KenUnix> From Debian 10 it got dropped
Apr 03 02:03:11 <set_> Aw.
Apr 03 02:03:43 <set_> I think there will be a new image starting on the 6th w/ all the fixings.
Apr 03 02:04:37 <KenUnix> We'll see.   You know what else since I have my BBB on barrel power it won't shutworm  sudo shutdown -h now  it now rebots
Apr 03 02:04:45 <set_> I was reading a google groups post. I found a fan cape too. It is supposed to fit on the AI.
Apr 03 02:04:57 <set_> Hmm.
Apr 03 02:05:07 <set_> Did you type...sudo shutdown -r now instead?
Apr 03 02:05:36 <KenUnix> Let me try it again.....
Apr 03 02:05:40 <set_> Otay!
Apr 03 02:06:45 <set_> -h off and -r reboot
Apr 03 02:07:01 <KenUnix> Nope it reboots
Apr 03 02:07:36 <KenUnix> Let me try it without barrel power
Apr 03 02:08:33 <set_> h is time in minutes. I done learned it.
Apr 03 02:08:38 <set_> Hmm.
Apr 03 02:08:55 <set_> Oh.
Apr 03 02:08:56 <set_> !
Apr 03 02:08:57 <set_> Ding.
Apr 03 02:09:13 <set_> You have a tty to usb converter and the barrel jack?
Apr 03 02:09:27 <set_> Yea. The barrel jack does that...reboots.
Apr 03 02:09:50 <set_> That is what that barrel jack does as of today on my end even w/ sudo poweroff.
Apr 03 02:09:52 <KenUnix> With barrel power disconnected it works. Then it's being powered from USB cable only
Apr 03 02:09:59 <set_> Yea.
Apr 03 02:10:17 <set_> Read what I just typed. There is a reason for it but that is how it works.
Apr 03 02:10:43 <set_> First one to find the reason for it, wins!
Apr 03 02:11:36 <KenUnix> So it's turn off barrel then do a shutdown.. How will that effect capes. Don't they draw too much current for USB power?
Apr 03 02:12:38 <set_> sudo poweroff "or" sudo shutdown -h now, unplug the barrel jack, then sudo poweroff or sudo shutdown -h now, and that should do it.
Apr 03 02:12:39 <set_> Or...
Apr 03 02:13:02 <set_> You can unplug the barrel jack before your command.
Apr 03 02:13:53 <set_> So, unplug the barrel jack and then type your command, i.e. sudo poweroff, sudo shutdown -h 1, or sudo shutdown -r 1!
Apr 03 02:14:00 <KenUnix> I guess I'll have to analize the schematic. Yea but if cape is on BBB won't that trigger BBB to power down due to too much current?
Apr 03 02:14:13 <set_> Hmm?
Apr 03 02:14:20 <set_> Make sense, arnold!
Apr 03 02:14:54 <set_> I do not computer. I feel like a robot right now typing that idea out.
Apr 03 02:15:32 <set_> Dang it. Now, I am not making any sense. "I do not computer," is I do not compute.
Apr 03 02:15:39 <KenUnix> Where's zmatt when you need him? Oh by the way Seth I saw your relay postings on BBB Google group.
Apr 03 02:15:41 <set_> Blah.
Apr 03 02:15:49 <set_> Oh!
Apr 03 02:15:55 <set_> Terrible, heh?
Apr 03 02:16:16 <set_> I have a difficult time w/ communication like every other person on this Earth.
Apr 03 02:16:52 <set_> KenUnix: What do you think of the posting? Did you reply yet?
Apr 03 02:16:52 <KenUnix> You had legit questions.  Hoe did Seth turn into set_ 8) 8)
Apr 03 02:17:01 <set_> Dar?
Apr 03 02:17:13 <set_> set_ or seth or Seth?
Apr 03 02:17:23 <set_> Is your name really Unix?
Apr 03 02:17:44 <KenUnix> Just fooling with you;D
Apr 03 02:17:47 <set_> Oh.
Apr 03 02:17:49 <set_> Otay!
Apr 03 02:18:26 <set_> KenUnix: Did anyone ever tell you that you are a bit nosey. And yes, the word "nosey" is being taken away from my MS Office applications as we speak. I hate them at times.
Apr 03 02:18:43 <set_> nosey used to be a word.
Apr 03 02:19:04 <set_> Just like badger is not just an animal but a way to treat someone.
Apr 03 02:19:08 <KenUnix> Qtay from our gangs comedies O:3 O:3
Apr 03 02:19:26 <set_> No. From Buck Wheat!
Apr 03 02:20:05 <KenUnix> HaHa  But Weak
Apr 03 02:20:11 <set_> Exactly.
Apr 03 02:20:28 <set_> No pun intended.
Apr 03 02:21:07 <set_> KenUnix: Do you remember the rascals?
Apr 03 02:21:17 <KenUnix> I'm not trying to be nosy I just noticed. Forgive me.=* =*
Apr 03 02:21:30 <set_> I shall never! I have never. Off w/ his head!
Apr 03 02:21:57 <set_> Okay. So, is this super neat board Cape showing up or not?
Apr 03 02:22:05 <set_> We are going to use it like no one has used it before!
Apr 03 02:22:20 <set_> Bzzt, vroom, and zoom!
Apr 03 02:22:36 <KenUnix> Little Rascals. Very old but still funny. I liked the dog
Apr 03 02:22:45 <set_> ole one eye?
Apr 03 02:23:02 <set_> I hated the show. I just like when Buck Wheat would say Otay!
Apr 03 02:23:26 <KenUnix> You know there was a movie made
Apr 03 02:23:30 <set_> I know.
Apr 03 02:23:31 <set_> Boo!
Apr 03 02:23:57 <set_> Hey, has BBB.io peoples ever done a giveaway on Instructables?
Apr 03 02:24:16 <KenUnix> I also liked the three stoogies ;D ;D
Apr 03 02:24:28 <set_> I know right now would not be fiscally responsible.
Apr 03 02:24:38 <set_> Just a thought for the future of the org.
Apr 03 02:24:50 <set_> Whoop, whooop, whoop!
Apr 03 02:25:21 <KenUnix> A wise guy. Hey Moe. Hey Crilie
Apr 03 02:25:40 <set_> KenUnix: Man, we are good buds for now. Do not ruin it like she did.
Apr 03 02:25:46 <set_> Ha.
Apr 03 02:25:56 <set_> Tension is healthy.
Apr 03 02:26:15 <KenUnix> Tomorrow the relay cape should show up
Apr 03 02:26:25 <set_> Nice! What then? What should we do?
Apr 03 02:26:35 <set_> I mean...
Apr 03 02:26:43 <KenUnix> Get the LED to light
Apr 03 02:26:44 <set_> Are we going to build or just watch it sit?
Apr 03 02:26:46 <set_> Yea boy!
Apr 03 02:27:09 <set_> My LED?
Apr 03 02:27:12 <set_> Yikes.
Apr 03 02:27:21 <set_> That thing is from another planet or something.
Apr 03 02:27:32 <set_> auto world!
Apr 03 02:27:36 <KenUnix> Oh.  Now I have  nmap  working on BBB, Linux VM and Windows
Apr 03 02:27:46 <set_> Nice.
Apr 03 02:28:08 <KenUnix> Also got  uwf  figured out
Apr 03 02:28:19 <set_> It is easy to figure out. I like it now.
Apr 03 02:29:20 <set_> It is easy b/c it does exactly what it is supposed to do.
Apr 03 02:29:23 <KenUnix> Between that and McAfee fiewall on Windows all is well. Got sftp to work on Linux
Apr 03 02:29:52 <set_> Nice. Do not forget your ":" at the end of our files/directories when transferring.
Apr 03 02:30:04 <set_> I always forget.
Apr 03 02:30:18 <KenUnix> Ever tried  ftprush ?
Apr 03 02:30:20 <set_> I typed our. Ha.
Apr 03 02:30:24 <set_> Nope.
Apr 03 02:30:37 <set_> I am like a get-along person. Beware.
Apr 03 02:30:41 <KenUnix> It's pretty cool. And free.
Apr 03 02:30:49 <set_> ftprush does what?
Apr 03 02:31:13 <set_> file transfer?
Apr 03 02:31:14 <KenUnix> Similar to winscp but more options
Apr 03 02:31:17 <set_> Oh.
Apr 03 02:31:19 <set_> Okay.
Apr 03 02:31:29 <set_> Does it transfer from win to Linux?
Apr 03 02:31:35 <set_> and vice versa?
Apr 03 02:31:42 <KenUnix> yes , yes
Apr 03 02:31:45 <set_> Nice.
Apr 03 02:32:24 <KenUnix> I had to do port forwarding in Virtual Box host to guest
Apr 03 02:33:03 <set_> Oh.
Apr 03 02:33:04 <set_> Odd.
Apr 03 02:33:17 <set_> I am not sure how Virt. Box works any longer.
Apr 03 02:33:30 <set_> I stopped dealing with them a while back.
Apr 03 02:34:35 <KenUnix> 127.0.0.1 port 2201 to 10.0.2.15 port 22
Apr 03 02:35:03 <set_> That is most likely why I stopped. I could not figure out that idea and how to update my VM any longer.
Apr 03 02:35:16 <KenUnix> 10.0.2.15 is IP vm assigns to guest os
Apr 03 02:35:36 <set_> Oh.
Apr 03 02:35:43 <KenUnix> updating is easy
Apr 03 02:35:52 <set_> I even invested in an actual sub. at one point.
Apr 03 02:36:03 <set_> Not the free version. Man, it was a hassle.
Apr 03 02:36:16 <set_> They had unlimited resources but I felt I was out of time.
Apr 03 02:36:24 <KenUnix> your not running Widdoze are you
Apr 03 02:36:43 <set_> On this computer, yes. Well, it is dual boot w/ Ubuntu.
Apr 03 02:37:15 <set_> I am pretty sure this computer does boot Ubuntu too.
Apr 03 02:37:37 <KenUnix> I initially had set-up issues now it's a cake walk
Apr 03 02:37:43 <set_> Yea. It does. Both of the Win 'puters runs dual booting w/ Ubuntu.
Apr 03 02:37:50 <set_> You are lucky. NOw, I am some quitter to you.
Apr 03 02:38:29 <set_> I wonder if I could even find that version I downloaded on this computer. It was circa 2017.
Apr 03 02:38:36 <KenUnix> I mean I ca upload easy setup for you
Apr 03 02:39:00 <set_> Nope. No thank you. I am a stern DYI person but lazy. So, I have my pitfalls.
Apr 03 02:39:34 <KenUnix> ok. just trying to help
Apr 03 02:40:20 <set_> Thank you.
Apr 03 02:40:28 <set_> I am off to look up what Virtual Box I had.
Apr 03 02:40:35 <set_> I had Debian at one point.
Apr 03 02:40:50 <KenUnix> you know there is an easy fix for BBB so when using sudo it dosen;t ask for password.
Apr 03 02:40:57 <set_> Right.
Apr 03 02:40:59 <set_> I know.
Apr 03 02:41:47 <KenUnix> Seems we both have gone down the same road :b :b
Apr 03 02:42:26 <set_> You might as well be a neighor.
Apr 03 02:43:02 <KenUnix> Across the way......................
Apr 03 02:43:20 <set_> Way!
Apr 03 02:43:21 <set_> Ha.
Apr 03 02:46:05 <set_> https://www.vmware.com/ is what I signed up for years ago.
Apr 03 02:49:46 <KenUnix> node -pe "require('bonescript').getPlatform().bonescript"
Apr 03 02:50:35 <set_> And?
Apr 03 02:50:40 <set_> What version?
Apr 03 02:51:22 <KenUnix> Will show you version od bonescript
Apr 03 02:51:26 <set_> Right!
Apr 03 02:52:15 <set_> KenUnix or should I say Mr. KenUnix? Ha. Anywho! brb
Apr 03 02:52:39 <KenUnix> vmware is to restrictive you eventually have to spend money
Apr 03 02:55:17 <KenUnix> Been here  http://beagleboard.org/Support/BoneScript/demo_blinkled/
Apr 03 02:57:55 <set_> I think that Demo should make the Cape work.
Apr 03 02:58:27 <set_> But...you may want to add more functionality to the Cape w/ more source, i.e. Relay 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Apr 03 02:58:51 <set_> Or use it w/ pumps or whatever.
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