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Jul 02 01:11:54 <set_> I did it!
Jul 02 01:12:11 <set_> I ordered the BBGG. I am not sure why yet but it is on its way!
Jul 02 01:12:21 <set_> Vroom!
Jul 02 01:13:19 <set_> Is there a new set of Grove Connector instruments that can be used w/ the BBGG?
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Jul 02 01:21:03 <set_> I found some available grove connector sensors. Anyway, it will be another adventure.
Jul 02 01:23:41 <zmatt> BBGG ?
Jul 02 01:24:51 <zmatt> oh the gateway.  didn't know it had been released yet
Jul 02 01:25:59 <set_> Yep.
Jul 02 01:26:03 <set_> I figured...yep.
Jul 02 01:26:28 <set_> Get it. So, I got it. I wonder what joyous devices one will make this time.
Jul 02 01:26:56 <set_> I found this company. The company has an i2c device for I/O for industrial use.
Jul 02 01:27:23 <set_> They have the idea of using a PI w/ it but I remember a while back, they also used a BBB w/ the i2c I/O device they produce.
Jul 02 01:28:02 <set_> Anyway, they charge a flat rate of $99.00 for their I/O "industrial" board.
Jul 02 01:28:20 <set_> Whatever happened to the board for I/O that people were thinking of producing for the AI or BBB?
Jul 02 01:28:23 <zmatt> looks like it's basically a BBBW with an integrated usb hub and usb-ethernet thingy (so ethernet will suck on this thing)
Jul 02 01:28:33 <set_> Ha.
Jul 02 01:28:35 <set_> Okay.
Jul 02 01:28:44 <set_> I know it is not GigaBit.
Jul 02 01:28:54 <zmatt> seems like a fairly pointless device but *shrug*
Jul 02 01:29:16 <set_> Who knows? Maybe some people will have less trouble w/ it compared to other products.
Jul 02 01:29:27 <set_> B/c of the Ethernet and WiFi.
Jul 02 01:29:28 <zmatt> "less trouble" ?
Jul 02 01:29:39 <set_> I mean...people do all sorts of stuff w/ their boards.
Jul 02 01:29:56 <set_> One thing I noticed people like to do w/ their boards is to try to produce their own images.
Jul 02 01:30:19 <zmatt> .. what on earth does that have to do with anything?
Jul 02 01:30:23 <set_> So, if WiFi is buggy, they have Ethernet to fall back on.
Jul 02 01:30:34 <set_> Like the AI but w/ less of a cost.
Jul 02 01:30:49 <set_> and people are familiar w/ the am3358.
Jul 02 01:31:06 <zmatt> if using ethernet is an option, just use a BBB or BBG
Jul 02 01:31:17 <set_> Right. Right.
Jul 02 01:31:26 <zmatt> at least it has a decent ethernet port and not a usb-ethernet chip
Jul 02 01:31:34 <set_> Hmm.
Jul 02 01:31:41 <set_> See, I was unaware of that idea.
Jul 02 01:32:23 <set_> a chip, heh?
Jul 02 01:32:24 <set_> Hmm.
Jul 02 01:32:26 <zmatt> usb on the bbb is something I try to avoid when possible anyway, since the usb controller isn't great and the driver for it even less so
Jul 02 01:32:45 <set_> Oh.
Jul 02 01:33:03 <set_> YOu mean, the USB and not the debug micro USB right?
Jul 02 01:33:10 <zmatt> I mean USB, in general
Jul 02 01:33:13 <set_> Oh.
Jul 02 01:33:14 <set_> Okay.
Jul 02 01:33:41 <zmatt> (there's no "debug micro USB"... the mini/micro usb port has nothing to do with debug)
Jul 02 01:33:56 <set_> Oh...
Jul 02 01:34:27 <set_> So, the debug for the, say, kernel panic, is the debug six pin onboard?
Jul 02 01:35:08 <zmatt> yup
Jul 02 01:35:13 <set_> Software and hardware debug are different. I understand.
Jul 02 01:35:17 <set_> Okay.
Jul 02 01:35:46 <set_> I have the 3.3v six pin debug cable. I have had it for years. How would I go about using it?
Jul 02 01:35:52 <set_> com?
Jul 02 01:35:58 <set_> serial console?
Jul 02 01:36:25 <zmatt> ??
Jul 02 01:36:46 <set_> I mean, I plug in the cable to the BBB and to the computer. RIght?
Jul 02 01:36:51 <set_> Then, what?
Jul 02 01:36:59 <set_> Serial Console?
Jul 02 01:37:10 <set_> via terminal session?
Jul 02 01:38:37 <set_> I know, I know. Like, this is what I do. I use PuTTY on Win at times. So, I would ssh in via a serial terminal which is a COM port on the computer in Win.
Jul 02 01:39:14 <set_> Then, if the board could boot still, I can access it.
Jul 02 01:39:34 <set_> It is like a backdoor entry to the ole system.
Jul 02 01:41:10 <set_> Oh and @zmatt: It seems that BBGG was a popular purchase for some reason. I tried to find it before last Fri. They only had one left.
Jul 02 01:41:32 <set_> Someone is purchasing them.
Jul 02 01:42:37 <set_> brb
Jul 02 01:48:00 <set_> Oh and...
Jul 02 01:48:25 <set_> It seems some of the ServoCapes are faulty b/c they have no INPUT pins populated.
Jul 02 01:48:43 <set_> I got one and it had no INPUT pins populated on it.
Jul 02 01:49:11 <set_> Is that normal?
Jul 02 01:50:02 <set_> I mean, in general, is it normal to have faulty/duds in electronics?
Jul 02 01:53:43 <set_> I have not come across any BBB.org related issues outside of lacking knowledge in my mind. That is why I am asking.
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Jul 02 02:53:10 <set_> lorforlinux: With that source and .dtbo file, is it possible to use it w/ another set of languages? For instance, C/C++ or Python3?
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