**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 25 02:59:57 2021 Feb 25 04:33:47 fun ... maybe? Feb 25 04:37:09 that's OK I have a MB that complains about something being wrong with powering up the processor but doesn't specifically say if it's the processor shorting or if the MB is shorted. It just flashes a red light. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 25 09:56:55 2021 Feb 25 14:49:55 zmatt, My device is under /, what I had paste is just the snippet for the device, not the device tree at all. Feb 25 14:50:10 if it was that you meant Feb 25 15:17:21 hmmm... why is it so hard to figure out how to have `watchdog` reset after 1 hour of a network interface (VPN) being down? Feb 25 15:17:46 the google searches for "interval" talk about the interval the daemon uses to pet the dog.... don't want to change that. Feb 25 15:18:03 want to change how long the network interface is down before it stops petting the dog. Feb 25 15:18:28 well, good thing about open source.... I can read the code. Feb 25 15:18:31 the watchdog daemon isn't exactly well documented Feb 25 15:18:52 it's also kind of weird Feb 25 15:18:56 yuck, sourceforge. Feb 25 15:19:25 there was a time when sf.net was as cool as github used to be Feb 25 18:16:48 until dice bought them and turned SF into a POS Feb 25 18:18:45 MS bought github and slowly people are walking away. Feb 25 18:19:45 and in a year or two, whatever is hot today will be scorned Feb 25 18:19:53 gitlab seems to be the place to go now. github restructures itself too often to be non dysfunctional. They should have an API that stays consistent. Feb 25 18:20:59 I doubt that they had a good reason to arbitrarily restructure github a number of applications relied on the API and are now broken. Feb 25 18:21:29 as long as it talks git I'm ok Feb 25 18:25:54 heh they rearranged some of the structure of the repositories I've heard as well. Feb 25 18:26:54 I haven't noticed anything like that Feb 25 18:27:55 well at least nmigen and yosys weren't affected Feb 25 21:21:43 hi all. i realy feel very stupid since hours  because i dont understand what is going on. i have an image (archlinux) on a microsd card. i flashed it usding dd to a beaglebone green wireless and everything is okay. i flash it on a beaglebone black wireless and i have only 800mhz. i flash it to another green wireless and i have no wifi adaptor, Feb 25 21:21:43 only   bluetooth. if i use nelsons image it works great every time. i know i should then use nelsons image for everything but i feel sick cause i dont understand why on some devices some things do not work Feb 25 21:22:37 sounds like your bootloader may not be loading the correct dtb? Feb 25 21:23:38 dunno... if you're going to use an distro that noone uses on the beaglebone, you should expect to be the volunteer that figures out this sort of stuff and how to fix it ;P Feb 25 21:25:12 i thought i could learn much about embedded and beaglebone if i use arch for it. but there are things that behave so strange right now and i realy dont understand what is happening Feb 25 21:25:45 have you checked the serial console output to see what the bootloader is saying/doing ? Feb 25 21:26:48 and getting something that is broken into a working state can certainly be an insightful learning experience, but it may not be the easiest path to learning ;P Feb 25 21:27:55 i have an ttl cable that i use sometimes. but for this problems i did not used ist. i  thought that if i have an image for the emmc. everything will work on all supported devieces. i mean, the same image is working on one bbgw but on the other bbgw ther eis no wifi. i realy dont know how this can happen. i a to stupid for embedded linux or what is Feb 25 21:27:55 happening here Feb 25 21:28:01 zmatt you keep reminding me to attach my serial console cable Feb 25 21:28:25 GenTooMan: oh btw, remember to attach your serial console cable Feb 25 21:29:06 * GenTooMan :D Feb 25 21:29:20 maza: bootloader is responsible for identifying the hardware and passing an appropriate device tree to the kernel Feb 25 21:30:23 @zmat okay i think i dont understand the hole idea. is the bootloader in the emmc when i flash it ? Feb 25 21:31:31 maza: yes Feb 25 21:31:32 it's part of your image Feb 25 21:32:02 but, why the same image is working on one bbgw but not the same way on another bbgw. Feb 25 21:32:20 but both of the beaglebones will work with nelsons image Feb 25 21:32:21 typically in two parts (SPL and u-boot.img) at fixed offsets between partition table and root filesystem partition Feb 25 21:33:06 maza: how would I know? check your serial console output instead of wondering out loud or asking people to guess based on no information whatsoever Feb 25 21:33:16 :P Feb 25 21:33:27 im am sorry zmatt Feb 25 21:33:51 it's okay... but debugging blindly is not a useful way to spend time, neither your own or anyone else's Feb 25 21:34:28 i just feel not that great about this cause i thought i understand the hole emmc and mlo and u-boot thing but i realize that i dont understand it at all :/ Feb 25 21:34:42 you are right Feb 25 21:38:05 tomorrow i have to flash 12 bbbw. i will report what happend :P Feb 25 22:57:51 How do you flash the contents of a beaglebone industrial to a microsd card? Feb 25 22:57:52 Good question! Am I allowed to answer? Feb 25 22:57:52 Of course Feb 25 22:58:13 Oh... Feb 25 22:58:38 Ace: Please wait for someone else. I misread what you typed. Feb 25 22:59:38 I thought you wanted to put the contents of your eMMC on a SD Card but after I thought about what that entails, I figured someone else would be better to describe such a task to you. Feb 25 22:59:39 ... Feb 25 23:00:36 That's fine thank you Feb 25 23:00:47 I want to flash an image of what is on the board to a microSD Feb 25 23:01:14 I think it is not so easy but if you want to just get your files w/out making an image from your eMMC to SD Card, sftp works. Feb 25 23:01:44 I am sorry...I can review ideas if necessary. Feb 25 23:02:01 I wonder if my notes are still around this old house. Feb 25 23:02:09 Please hold for someone or me w/ notes. Feb 25 23:02:13 I appreciate it Feb 25 23:02:44 By the way, I am not affiliated w/ bbb.io or the .org. I am just some random user here. I like to hang out to learn and cause fun times. Feb 25 23:05:00 I understand, that's fine Feb 25 23:08:13 Ace: Here is something I found but be cautious to try it off a whim. I say try w/ another board first w/ an install on the eMMC if possible. Feb 25 23:08:23 Oh...https://stackoverflow.com/questions/43366198/copy-the-emmc-content-of-beaglebone-running-angstrom-on-sd-card-to-make-an-emmc Feb 25 23:08:58 I remember, that is a very old stackoverflow from angstrom days, there was a way but my notes will take me a while to hunt down. Feb 25 23:09:45 Ace: Do you have a spare BBB and SD Card? Feb 25 23:10:11 'not the bbb in question...' Feb 25 23:17:35 I just do not want to direct you on your prized possession for now b/c the memory may be erased by accident. I can try on my side in a couple of days if necessary. Feb 25 23:34:01 Sorry, I was busy with something. I'll try out what you linked with an extra card. I appreciate it, thank you Feb 25 23:35:35 Ace: Use another BBB, the one outside of the one that is in question. Feb 25 23:36:38 This way, you do not ruin the eMMC data and image. Feb 26 00:41:20 Ace! Feb 26 00:41:25 I think i figured it out. Feb 26 00:41:39 Wait. Nope. Dang. I am such a tease. Feb 26 00:42:44 does anybody have an idea (order of magnitude kinda thing) of how much the beaglev will cost when it's first released? Feb 26 00:50:09 Hello, are there any viable options for machinekit GUI on the BBB? I have resorted to postpone my findings w/ emcapplication for now and I have gotten my hands on a linuxcnc-dev copy. Compilation is not going well, i.e. as one might presume. Feb 26 00:54:48 ullbeking: I have ideas but none are correct. I think since the cpu and peripherals onboard the SoC are by far less expensive, it must dwell on set up time, research, and, well, other ideas (who is a target audience, where are they located, and will they purchase them). Feb 26 00:56:27 So, by far away is my actual knowledge on beagleboard.org related inquiries, it seems the chips are by far 'superior' in the way they have done more w/ less. Feb 26 00:56:43 ... Feb 26 00:56:47 The reason I say that is this... Feb 26 00:57:52 I watched a podcast/webinar from, um, RISC-V persons. They seemed to think that these chips have done well in size versus processing power. Feb 26 00:58:28 So, w/ a smaller chip, there is actually more 'goodies' and less power consumption and all w/ a higher cycle rate. Feb 26 01:00:09 So, while ARM chips or STM chips for instance/example, have so many retrieval methods to compute a single cycle, RISC-V has come up w/ an alternate method to cause more computations in a single cycle. Feb 26 01:00:38 ... Feb 26 01:00:43 Does that sound correct? Feb 26 01:02:19 set_: thank you for your reasoned explanation Feb 26 01:02:24 i need to think on it... Feb 26 01:02:48 I can give you the link to the 50 minute cast/webinar if necessary. I can probably find it again. Feb 26 01:02:52 please! Feb 26 01:02:55 Okay. Feb 26 01:02:58 ty Feb 26 01:03:52 i have a project that i want to implement as libre from hardware at the bottom to the software at the top, and be able to install it in a pci-e slot in almost any computer Feb 26 01:04:18 i want to use beaglev to develop this, i think/predict Feb 26 01:05:58 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5gLmcFuvdGbajs4VL-WU3g is bad news and good news. They have their channel up but the video was a zoom call. I will have to figure out where I saved it. Bear w/ me. Feb 26 01:14:29 Hmm. I just remembered! I got mad and canceled my video before saving the info. But, it is one of those from the RISC-V International Youtube.com account, I think. The fellow speaking was flagrant w/ speed talking. I could not keep up. Feb 26 01:14:30 ... Feb 26 01:14:53 Oh. Let me keep looking. Feb 26 01:19:30 Nope. It is lost in the archives. Feb 26 01:19:35 No! Feb 26 01:20:44 Wait. Let me check google drive or whatever. Feb 26 01:24:04 I got nothin', man. I am not sure exactly which video or zoom chat it was they recorded and posted. Feb 26 03:01:47 set_: ok, thanks for looking, anyway. i appreciate your time. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 26 03:02:01 2021