**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 26 03:02:01 2021 Feb 26 03:02:33 i'll have fun exploring all the docs and software re: RISC-V anyway! Feb 26 03:06:48 Nice. Godspeed and look at coins while passing w/out picking them up! Feb 26 03:07:12 Never steal coins from the ground. Give to Earth! Geaux BBB! Feb 26 03:08:04 03:06 Nice. Godspeed and look at coins while passing w/out picking them up! Feb 26 03:08:05 03:07 Never steal coins from the ground. Give to Earth! Geaux BBB! Feb 26 03:08:05 ^^ and ^ I love this! Feb 26 03:09:25 Is that day time? Feb 26 03:39:29 ullbeking: They have a github and some other resources around, i.e. google groups! Feb 26 03:39:46 They = beagleboard.org persons Feb 26 03:40:08 yes, i'm a member of the beaglev group Feb 26 03:40:14 Me too, me too! Feb 26 03:40:35 i wrote a message but didn't realize there is no drafts when i went to change my email address settings Feb 26 03:40:55 ullbeking: Github has a Risc-V section. Feb 26 03:40:56 set_: see you on there!! do you go my your real name there? Feb 26 03:41:05 No. Feb 26 03:41:09 set_: i bet it does Feb 26 03:41:16 i spend a lot of time with POWER9 too Feb 26 03:41:33 Of course not. I am in low-key mode still. Oh. I know nothing about that one. Feb 26 03:41:55 I go by set_ I think or Mala. Feb 26 03:42:16 Mala is also the name of a musician i like Feb 26 03:42:40 Hmm. Nice. Do you know anything about LinuxCNC? Feb 26 03:43:17 Machinekit-hal works but the emcapplication gave me issues on the BBB so far. Feb 26 03:43:18 what is it? Feb 26 03:43:37 i love my BBB more than most of my SBC's Feb 26 03:43:54 Oh. It is just a CNC 'distro'/sort of. It is also a way to use source that computes numerical control. Feb 26 03:44:19 Left, right, up, down, 30 degree bevel and so on... Feb 26 03:44:42 I am trying to port it to the BBGW now. Feb 26 03:44:59 LinuxCNC even has a section for BBB but they call it BB. Feb 26 03:45:35 THeir instructions say to not call the setting up of GPIO pins during compilation for whatever reason. Feb 26 03:46:26 Anyway, it is sort of passed due for me to set up something. So, I am trying now! Feb 26 03:46:58 is this a personal project? Feb 26 03:47:28 Every time, I get busted w/ cc1Plus. Feb 26 03:47:33 Oh. No. Feb 26 03:47:54 It is a major thing w/ Linux for real time applications for computer numerical control. Feb 26 03:49:06 I can almost use sudo make install but every, dang time I get the compilation error at taskmodule.cc and it cannot compile. Feb 26 03:49:18 Argh. Feb 26 03:50:22 I looked up the error. I should be more exact here. 'cc1plus linuxcnc' Feb 26 03:51:28 i mean a personal project as in something that you want to do, or some kind of coursework? Feb 26 03:53:31 Oh. No but yes. Feb 26 03:53:53 I just started to figure out that making something w/ the BBB/BBGW would be better than not use it at all. Feb 26 03:54:27 So, for now, I am building different projects to make posts for fun. Later, much later, comes the real fun of watching the contraption w/ an audience. Feb 26 03:54:43 Maker Faire! Feb 26 03:54:56 and then losers that pretend to need items from me. Them too! Feb 26 03:57:00 Okay. bbl. Update/upgrade/reboot/food! Feb 26 04:18:51 set_: this isn't the video you were looking for earlier, was it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jstwB-o9ll0 Feb 26 04:28:21 Let me check later. Right now, I am head-huntin' on linuxcnc. Feb 26 04:28:31 I am trying to make it work! Feb 26 04:49:34 ullbeking: no, that was not it. Feb 26 04:49:45 LinuxCNC has binaries already! Feb 26 04:49:51 Nice! Feb 26 15:28:23 Would someone running the latest beagle image be able to tell me which version of openssh is installed? command would be "ssh -V" Feb 26 15:29:12 Latest images run Debian Buster, so, couldn't you look what those use? are you looking for the latest "blessed" image, or the builds on rcn-ee.net? Feb 26 15:30:30 not sure what you mean blessed. But good point on checking debian buster repos Feb 26 15:33:34 i am running 8.4 here but i am using my own debian builds as i don't run the conventional beaglebone images Feb 26 15:37:11 if it's debian based, dpkg installed. you can dpkg --list | grep ssh Feb 26 15:39:25 Konsgn: but installed, doesn't mean is the running. I think the best way is through client connection. ssh -V server.address Feb 26 15:41:10 alright, to dig a little deeper, openssh's 8.2 supports fido-backed keys. I am thinking that that is something that is primarily required on client side, a server won't necessarily need to be openssh>=8.2. Has anyone run into that? would that be a true statement? Feb 26 15:54:27 hm... sorry i can't answer as ive not messed with fido with what i am doing Feb 26 15:55:11 but i would be inclined to think your right Feb 26 17:55:03 hello everybody. what i nice day. Feb 26 21:01:38 does anybody knows what the /usr/lib/firmware/netronome firmwares are used for ? Feb 26 23:21:24 I may have figured out something! Feb 26 23:22:05 Linuxcnc cannot be installed. Yea! Feb 26 23:22:31 On the armhf machine I use, the BBB, it is near impossible. Blah. Feb 26 23:23:57 Someone must know someone who knows something, right? Feb 26 23:24:25 It is only b/c of two packages that are no longer available but... Feb 26 23:24:59 I guess one must update the entire makefile and libs. to python3 for use. It is still relying on python2. Feb 26 23:50:14 It is a compilication. Any ideas from the pros? Feb 26 23:58:14 Well, I got the binaries to install. Now, once the update/upgrade is done, off to run it in a server to test. Nice! Feb 26 23:58:51 * set_ does not know how I came to this idea nor do I know what steps to take to reenact it. Feb 27 00:12:59 Forget it. It failed in the end. Blah. Just when you think peaches and sunshine, dark-matter and grime fill my terminal. Feb 27 01:21:48 This is funny. linuxcnc-uspace. Ha. Feb 27 01:22:16 That is crummy to think one could install via binaries or compilation. Blah. Feb 27 01:25:31 why? Feb 27 01:25:50 b/c... Feb 27 01:25:55 I just wasted four days. Feb 27 01:26:03 And...guess what? Feb 27 01:26:11 Linux Debian Buster had it the entire time. Feb 27 01:26:13 well most software was only installed via compiling in the early 90's Feb 27 01:26:20 Oh. Feb 27 01:26:25 set_ you should look next time? Feb 27 01:26:36 I looked. I found an odd site w/ instructions. Feb 27 01:26:40 Today! Feb 27 01:26:48 I need to get dev too. Feb 27 01:27:23 GenTooMan: When you say, look next time, do you mean w/ apt-cache? Feb 27 01:28:26 I forget apt-cache search is a thing, i.e. still! To this day! Feb 27 01:28:50 I feel inadequate now. Feb 27 01:28:52 Ha. Feb 27 01:29:24 GenTooMan: I contacted the company about their hardware (motor and things). Mistake. They called me back. Feb 27 01:29:35 I was taken by surprise. Feb 27 01:29:56 I think they have a large co. and is not a small co. w/ just Bill at the desk answering phones. Feb 27 01:30:26 I get someone new each time. So, this time, I am calling back to see what it is the fellow wanted to describe to me. Feb 27 01:30:54 set_ no you do apt-cache search Feb 27 01:31:02 Right. Feb 27 01:31:03 Right. Feb 27 01:31:05 Okay. Feb 27 01:31:28 apt-cache search , got it. Feb 27 01:31:37 that way you know if you can get the package as is then you can attempt to install etc. Feb 27 01:32:16 Right. Okay. Good idea. That would have saved me four days of MachineKit/LinuxCNC/EmcApplication compilations and installs w/ .deb packages. Feb 27 01:32:29 Lessoned learned. Feb 27 01:32:36 Ha. Feb 27 01:33:12 GenTooMan: Are you still performing Cape making? Feb 27 01:33:48 I have a podcast called GenTooMan and set_ now! Feb 27 01:33:56 Just kiddin'. Feb 27 01:34:15 I joke. Feb 27 01:34:54 this is set_ this is his invisible fiend GenTwoMachina Feb 27 01:35:11 He likes BBB, the net, and things of nature! Feb 27 01:35:55 Invisible is better than a spanish fellow that only comes over to borrow things. Feb 27 01:36:17 "Can I borrow a drill? Can I borrow your tools? Can I...?" Feb 27 01:37:08 set_ responds "no habla espaniol!" Feb 27 01:37:24 :D Feb 27 01:37:28 No, no, no, no. But...guess what. This fellow does not take no for an answer. he thinks no is a joke. Feb 27 01:37:38 He should have been a salesman. Feb 27 01:38:01 I tell him un mas vece. Feb 27 01:38:15 One more time and PAM! Right to the kisser! Feb 27 01:38:43 Sorry. not un, it is uno. Feb 27 01:39:27 Anyway, w/ this RT kernel on the BBB, the install time is quadrupled. Feb 27 01:39:43 Everything I have been doing has been taking four times as long. Feb 27 01:40:07 well you tend to jump instead of taking measured steps. Feb 27 01:40:17 Right and I scare easy. Feb 27 01:40:30 Spoof, piff, bam! Feb 27 01:40:56 I cannot believe apt-cache search could have saved me tons of time. Feb 27 01:41:16 Dang. I could have just typed in linuxcnc debian Buster in the google search bar. Feb 27 01:41:19 right you tend to get stranic picken Feb 27 01:41:30 Ha. Feb 27 01:41:32 you could have ... but didn Feb 27 01:41:42 Right. Feb 27 01:42:04 Every time I think of apt-cache search, I think, "There must be an easier way." Feb 27 01:42:11 Nope. There is not! Feb 27 01:42:47 I just hope things can install now. I had to erase tons of garbage and who knows where it installed. Feb 27 01:43:00 -- /usr/bin Feb 27 01:43:28 that's better than the toilet bin Feb 27 01:43:35 very messy place that is Feb 27 01:43:37 Or trash collection bin. Feb 27 01:43:43 has bin? Feb 27 01:43:49 Was bin? Feb 27 01:43:53 Ha. Feb 27 01:44:27 could-a would-a have been? Feb 27 01:44:32 bin Feb 27 01:44:58 Dang it, GenTooMan. Are you making Capes or what? Feb 27 01:45:18 I am going to purchase a six motor CNC Cape from you one day, right? Feb 27 01:45:49 I think those fellows at MachineKit are making things work for the BBAI. Feb 27 01:46:03 I looked through the install files. A lot of AI stuff. Feb 27 01:47:08 Nope. It is broken. Time for a new image. Feb 27 01:48:13 https://pastebin.com/dw3Sk4Sy Feb 27 01:48:19 Look at that idea, please. Feb 27 01:50:37 too late, flashing now. Feb 27 01:52:14 Now...I need to install 500 packages! Feb 27 01:52:21 yes. yes. yes! Feb 27 02:23:40 set_ not currently am I making ccapes Feb 27 02:24:46 Boo! Feb 27 02:25:06 Ive scoured the internet for a set of drivers that are compatible with big sur for my beaglebone blue. Is there a link? Feb 27 02:25:20 Sorry to just blurt that out Feb 27 02:26:26 No issue. Feb 27 02:26:39 I hope someone can help you? Have you tried serial first? Feb 27 02:27:26 I am thinking since BBBlue is a WiFi board only, serial would be the way to go for getting things to work. Feb 27 02:28:19 Guest40185: Use serial. Feb 27 02:28:35 Right? Feb 27 02:28:39 What do you mean? Feb 27 02:29:07 Use the serial console instead of ssh. Or, even better, use the TTY to USB adapter if you have one. Feb 27 02:29:21 perfect thank you! Feb 27 02:29:26 Did it work? Feb 27 02:29:29 all of you! Feb 27 02:29:32 Ha. Feb 27 02:29:43 I try...blushing? Feb 27 02:29:45 Ha. Feb 27 02:30:05 It will Feb 27 02:30:08 :) Feb 27 02:30:13 Smiles! Feb 27 02:30:38 The TTY to USB converters are better than just using serial consoles. Feb 27 02:31:00 They are more detected since they have drivers. Feb 27 02:31:52 I have noticed that w/ serial consoles, they drop out easily and go vacant. Feb 27 02:44:37 you have to use the TTY to USB converter to use the serial console no? Feb 27 02:44:55 Well, there is such a thing w/ USB alone. Feb 27 02:45:20 The converter is just an extra wire right? Feb 27 02:45:35 The driver is what matters, right? Feb 27 02:45:50 I need to research this again. Feb 27 02:47:04 and would you not know it, my datasheets are missing. Feb 27 02:47:10 Off to research. Feb 27 02:48:09 FTDI updated their older site! Feb 27 02:48:46 FTDI had a good run now they have found themselves at the end of the reality stick they don't like Feb 27 02:50:14 Oh. Feb 27 02:50:20 Updating the ideas... Feb 27 02:50:32 I see they have tons of new products too. Feb 27 02:50:57 Anyway...they have all sorts of cabling now. Feb 27 02:51:33 They have good prices for the driver support. Feb 27 02:56:02 Gues40185: Look here for a TTY to USB converter or amazon has a bunch of knockoffs: https://ftdichip.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/DS_TTL-232R_CABLES.pdf. One of those cables listed is a 3.3v compatible cable in case you get a BBB or AI or one of the other boards that have the TTY to USB interface on it. Feb 27 02:56:25 or. Feb 27 02:56:56 You can use sparkfun for ideas too. Feb 27 02:57:33 GenTooMan: What is the reality stick you are discussing? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 27 03:00:25 2021