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Apr 17 03:19:54 <mastermind> nick mattb00000ne
Apr 17 03:20:08 <mattb000000ne> I am BACK!!!
Apr 17 03:20:21 <mattb000000ne> with more questions
Apr 17 03:20:23 <mattb000000ne> lol
Apr 17 03:20:53 <mattb000000ne> start off with an easy one I hope.... I made a small tcp client-server demo program
Apr 17 03:21:55 <mattb000000ne> and I want to send commands to the black just using the ip and socket without doing the whole log on with debian is that possible
Apr 17 03:22:07 <mattb000000ne> like can I open a port to avoid doing that
Apr 17 03:24:52 <set_> Ride!
Apr 17 03:25:11 <set_> Just kidding.
Apr 17 03:25:18 <set_> That is a good question.
Apr 17 03:25:37 <set_> Fling hates me!
Apr 17 03:25:55 <set_> sorry. fling hates me!
Apr 17 03:27:06 <set_> mattb000000ne: SOrry for InterRupTing.
Apr 17 03:27:14 <set_> I am sure someone knows something.
Apr 17 03:27:24 <fling> No, you hate yourself.
Apr 17 03:27:27 <mattb000000ne> whats fling
Apr 17 03:27:31 <set_> That!
Apr 17 03:27:32 <mattb000000ne> oh
Apr 17 03:27:34 <fling> mattb000000ne: whatsup
Apr 17 03:27:34 <set_> Ha.
Apr 17 03:27:35 <mattb000000ne> lol
Apr 17 03:27:42 <mattb000000ne> thought you were a tcp program
Apr 17 03:27:46 <set_> She/he hates me like I hate myself.
Apr 17 03:28:10 <fling> mattb000000ne: nice to meet you too.
Apr 17 03:28:16 <set_> Argh!
Apr 17 03:29:05 <set_> I am going to where people will respect my keen insight. Meanies!
Apr 17 03:29:41 <set_> I just want to say something before I go.
Apr 17 03:29:57 <set_> There is no way to answer everything all the time. You need to mediate at times.
Apr 17 03:30:54 <mattb000000ne> ok
Apr 17 03:30:58 <mattb000000ne> nice to meet you
Apr 17 03:31:08 <mattb000000ne> zmatt still lurking around here
Apr 17 03:31:13 <mattb000000ne> been a while since i have been on
Apr 17 03:31:23 <mattb000000ne> he is usually my goto
Apr 17 03:31:39 <mattb000000ne> lol
Apr 17 03:31:39 <fling> So I have this bbb I only used it once for flashing x200.
Apr 17 03:31:39 <fling> What else could I use it for?
Apr 17 03:31:40 <mattb000000ne> a lot of stuff
Apr 17 03:31:48 <fling> I printed a nice case for it
Apr 17 03:31:53 <mattb000000ne> that is a start
Apr 17 03:31:54 <fling> Now it looks a little like a soap holder :>
Apr 17 03:31:57 <mattb000000ne> why did you buy it
Apr 17 03:32:08 <fling> I bought it for flashing x200
Apr 17 03:32:19 <mattb000000ne> whats x200
Apr 17 03:32:25 <fling> lenovo laptop
Apr 17 03:32:49 <mattb000000ne> could a rasberry pi 4 do that
Apr 17 03:32:58 <mattb000000ne> a lot more instructables for the pi4
Apr 17 03:33:06 <mattb000000ne> make a media server or something
Apr 17 03:33:19 <fling> yes, raspberry pi 3 does a better job than bbb because it can provide enough juice eg it eliminates the need of an external psu
Apr 17 03:33:26 <fling> and external psu can fry your board
Apr 17 03:33:48 <mattb000000ne> oh I know about frying a board
Apr 17 03:33:50 <fling> I have pi3 too and I used it for flashing x200 too, it was much more convenient
Apr 17 03:33:53 <mattb000000ne> this is my 4th BBB
Apr 17 03:34:06 <fling> Then I tried using pi for retropie but it is another story
Apr 17 03:34:29 <fling> I also used pi3 for flashing sanguinololu which is a different voltage board but pi survived :D
Apr 17 03:35:53 <mattb000000ne> cool
Apr 17 03:35:59 <mattb000000ne> now just looking for other ideas?
Apr 17 03:36:37 <fling> no, just looking at this soap holder and thinking what to use it for :D
Apr 17 03:36:44 <fling> no ideas yet I mean
Apr 17 03:37:14 <fling> I see bbb as a nice piece of hardware which I unfortunately have no use for.
Apr 17 03:37:20 <fling> Or atleast I don't know about one.
Apr 17 03:54:31 <set_> Moola?
Apr 17 03:54:37 <set_> yea boy!
Apr 17 03:55:24 <set_> Steaks are not free and neither is water.
Apr 17 03:57:18 <set_> Polish 'em boots and smile!
Apr 17 04:01:12 <set_> I am going to polish mine! Now, smiling, maybe...
Apr 17 04:02:12 <set_> 10:00!
Apr 17 04:02:15 <set_> Cough. sorry.
Apr 17 04:40:23 <zmatt> fling: you can use it as a 100 Msps 12-channel logic analyzer
Apr 17 04:40:50 <zmatt> fling: I don't see any RPi doing that ;)
Apr 17 04:41:09 <zmatt> (search beaglelogic)
Apr 17 04:44:37 <zmatt> fling: in general, the PRU subsystem is something that really sets the beaglebone apart from other small ARM-based boards, it consists of two 200 MHz non-pipelined microcontroller cores designed for deterministic timing and which have gpio wired directly into registers, allowing them to be used for all sorts of custom I/O with strict timing
Apr 17 04:45:47 <zmatt> (while also having access to the rest of the SoC, allowing e.g. to dump large amounts of data into a ringbuffer in DDR3 memory)
Apr 17 04:49:21 <zmatt> fling: the BBB also has CANbus interfaces, PWM outputs with 10ns duty cycle resolution, hardware quadrature decoders, capture inputs that can be used to measure pulse width and/or pulse distance with 10ns resolution (one input even 5ns resolution)
Apr 17 04:49:40 <zmatt> that sort of stuff
Apr 17 04:50:19 <zmatt> mattb000000ne: "media server" is the worst possible suggestion for using a beaglebone :P  if there's one application it would be absolutely terrible at, it's that
Apr 17 04:50:30 <mattb000000ne> lol
Apr 17 04:50:50 <mattb000000ne> ok rasberry pi good for that
Apr 17 04:50:53 <mattb000000ne> i think
Apr 17 04:54:07 <zmatt> as for your earlier question, I have no idea what you mean... why would you need to log in to the beaglebone to connect to your tcp server?
Apr 17 04:55:06 <mattb000000ne> well for ssh you need to log in
Apr 17 04:55:26 <zmatt> that's a weird way to phrase that... ssh is a way to log in
Apr 17 04:55:32 <mattb000000ne> i figured there would be some sort of security blocking me from just sending messages to ports
Apr 17 04:55:42 <fling> zmatt: interesting! thanks for the info.
Apr 17 05:00:36 <zmatt> fling: there's also some project to drive up to 48 ws2811/ws2812-based led strips
Apr 17 05:01:01 <fling> maybe I should buy some
Apr 17 05:02:43 <zmatt> another bbb led control thing: https://trmm.net/Category:LEDscape/
Apr 17 05:05:58 <fling> hmm
Apr 17 05:12:05 <zmatt> pru is great for ws2812 since it's quite timing-sensitive (requires generating pulses with ±0.15 μs tolerance on pulse width), so bitbanging gpio from linux userspace is definitely not going to work reliably, and while you may be able to perhaps abuse an SPI port for it, you're not going to have dozens of those available for use ;)
Apr 17 05:12:39 <zmatt> (plus encoding the RGB data into a format that you could output via SPI would require a substantial amount of cpu time)
Apr 17 05:15:38 <fling> will I sync it to music or something?
Apr 17 05:15:51 <fling> or wait
Apr 17 05:16:14 <zmatt> I mean, what you output on them is up to you...
Apr 17 05:16:23 <fling> better to use led strips behind a screen to light the wall in screen border colors
Apr 17 05:17:03 <zmatt> lol, ambilight
Apr 17 05:17:24 <zmatt> that doesn't require much pixels though, so you can do that probably from pretty much any board
Apr 18 02:00:05 <set_> So...w/ TIDL, one would train it on a PC/Linux Box, then convert it w/ the conversion tool, and then put its compiled version on the AI?
Apr 18 02:01:43 <set_> Where would I get this conversion tool?
Apr 18 02:12:33 <set_> Scratch my question.
Apr 18 02:12:49 <set_> They have a ton more info. now on the 'sdk' and converting things...
Apr 18 02:53:26 <MortyFell> Okay! So, it seems that the converter tool is located in the .bin file for the sdk. Nice.
Apr 18 02:53:54 <MortyFell> is anyone working on TIDL w/ the AI still?
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