**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 07 02:59:56 2022 Feb 07 05:57:41 BeagleBegginer: well, Ubuntu has never been officially supported in the first place, the official distro has always been Debian (or in very ancient history Angstrom) Feb 07 05:58:38 especially if you're going for a "minimal" install, there's not much reason to use Ubuntu instead of Debian anyway, as Ubuntu is based on Debian and very similar to it Feb 07 05:59:38 (I don't exclude the possibility there are still ubuntu images, but since pretty much nobody cares about Ubuntu on BBB this isn't really something I keep track of myself) Feb 07 21:05:19 anyone know why the pins that default to GPIOs don't have a pull up enabled by default? trying to build a project using all the defaults Feb 07 22:08:38 ][-]]\ Feb 07 22:08:38 ''[\ Feb 07 22:28:16 ds2: default pin varies per pin Feb 07 22:28:21 *default pull Feb 07 22:29:54 but all pins have either default pull-up or default pull-down, except for the sysboot0-15 pins (aka lcd_data0-15) which are used as strapping options hence have internal pull disabled by default and instead have external pull-up/down resistors for the strapping options Feb 07 22:35:35 the P9/P8 tabs of my pins spreadsheet (https://goo.gl/Jkcg0w#gid=1775283126) show default pull state in columns J and M Feb 07 23:26:42 hi guys, i have still this nasty problem with BB-AI powerup Feb 07 23:27:04 i tried to send a message to the Forum, but a few days have passed and i don't see it there Feb 07 23:27:49 i have anohter BB-AI at the office, still sealed, i can open that, but this is really a non-solution Feb 07 23:28:49 to power up the BB-AI i need to keep pressed for 15 seconds the power button, this is bad^3 Feb 07 23:31:03 would it do any help if I install a newer system ? Would it affect the powerup process ? Feb 07 23:32:18 if you have any idea at all please let me know !!!!! Feb 07 23:32:29 i will watch the history in the chat, now that i do how ;) Feb 07 23:40:31 zmatt: default as in power on default you mean? Feb 07 23:58:58 ds2 if you have cape universal you can toggle easily the pull-up pull-down AFAIRemember Feb 07 23:59:21 or, you can write an overlay that specify that Feb 08 00:01:33 i go to sleep, I will bring with me the AM572x manual ... and i hope for the best ;)   tomorrow i will test with my other unit Feb 08 00:02:26 if all go wrong i guess i need to use an Arduino to power-on / power-off the BB-AI, i would really prefer not to take that road Feb 08 00:02:55 bye guys, goodnight Feb 08 00:06:42 ds2, as for the "why", something you want them to be by default OFF, some others you want to be by default ON. That is the reason why i guess they are not all set to pullDown. (i am not an EE, i could be fully wrong). Feb 08 00:22:49 i know how to toggle it Feb 08 00:23:25 and 'why' is not about why a PD/PU is needed. It is more of - why was that decided as the default. It sounds like it is just the HW power on defaults not a beagle choosen default Feb 08 01:22:25 ds2: correct... why would you intentionally toggle the pull during boot? that just means external hw can't rely on the pin keeping its reset-default pull until properly configured Feb 08 01:23:30 pins will necessarily have their reset-default state for some amount of time (possibly indefinitely if boot fails) hence external hardware already needs to account for that state Feb 08 01:23:59 so it's better to just keep that state until the pin is intentionally configured by the user to be anything that isn't the reset default Feb 08 02:54:42 Hey! Feb 08 02:55:27 I just wanted to say, "Hey!" **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Feb 08 02:59:57 2022