**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 30 02:59:58 2012 Mar 30 03:26:00 PatrickC: indeed. :) You still webOS'ing, then? Mar 30 03:26:14 oh big time :) Mar 30 03:26:20 Good stuff Mar 30 03:26:24 hitting some bumps with enyo2 Mar 30 03:26:34 would love you to be in my beta program if you have time/want to :) Mar 30 03:26:51 * rrix is porting the door lock application he wrote to enyo2 tonight Mar 30 03:26:56 PatrickC: Sure, what for? Mar 30 03:26:57 nice. Mar 30 03:27:00 PM? Mar 30 03:27:04 Go for it Mar 30 03:34:13 So... is anyone actually doing TDD with Enyo? Mar 30 03:34:46 TDD? Mar 30 03:35:28 Test Driven Development Mar 30 03:35:38 ahh Mar 30 03:50:08 Yes Mar 30 03:50:10 sorry Mar 30 03:50:11 :) Mar 30 03:50:22 Most client side test suites I've looked at can't enyo Mar 30 03:51:20 Something that can BDD would be nice, as well, but I'm not entirely picky at htis pout Mar 30 03:51:23 this point Mar 30 03:51:25 wow Mar 30 03:52:13 * rrix is having issues with enyo.Component::bubble, too Mar 30 03:52:28 * rrix does some pouting of his own Mar 30 03:54:10 rrix: I think enyo2 has a test mechanism Mar 30 03:54:56 Really? wait, what? Mar 30 03:55:47 I'm trying to find it, hold on Mar 30 03:58:05 if you have enyo2 downloaded, within it's dir, checkout enyo/lib/layout/fittable/examples/tests.html Mar 30 03:58:17 * rrix looks Mar 30 03:59:05 maybe that's a bad example Mar 30 03:59:10 I swear I saw it, bear with me Mar 30 04:00:35 rrix: nope, try enyo/enyo/tools/test/index.html Mar 30 04:01:12 nice Mar 30 04:01:43 * rrix is readings Mar 30 04:01:56 * PatrickC wonders if he should do PIN based auth or non PIN based auth.. Mar 30 04:02:10 * phil_bw wanders by Mar 30 04:02:11 * PatrickC goes to build a webview kind around an iframe real quick.. maybe Mar 30 04:02:20 phil_bw, long time no see my man Mar 30 04:02:31 Interesting Mar 30 04:02:35 I know it Mar 30 04:02:50 Whoever Scott Miles is, he needs to indent his code :\ Mar 30 04:02:56 Moved to android a while back, now I'm using Enyo 2 to build an app Mar 30 04:04:14 phil_bw, traitor :P Mar 30 04:04:20 * PatrickC is still on his Pre2.. Mar 30 04:04:26 rrix, what code? Mar 30 04:04:28 The pre died Mar 30 04:04:38 * PatrickC has like 12 Mar 30 04:04:39 lol Mar 30 04:04:43 enyo/enyo/tools/test/* Mar 30 04:04:52 I need a new pre2, my screen is cracked :\ Mar 30 04:04:53 I love my Nexus S 4g with ICS but still miss webOS Mar 30 04:04:59 Still rocking it though Mar 30 04:05:24 rrix, nice... well, that your still using the pre2 :) Mar 30 04:05:37 Yeah Mar 30 04:05:40 This phone works quite well but I doubt I could ever call myself an android fan boy Mar 30 04:05:44 I'm still pretty sure it has a bad ram or something Mar 30 04:05:52 It's just ... always been slightly wonky Mar 30 04:05:56 i would call HP then ;) Mar 30 04:05:59 but my experience with Android has been less than nice Mar 30 04:06:07 So what are you guys developing in Enyo? Mar 30 04:06:07 and iOS isn't an option Mar 30 04:06:16 * PatrickC is making a twitter app Mar 30 04:06:26 I do sort of want to figure out why my Plasma Active image isn't booting on my touchpad Mar 30 04:06:35 * rrix is porting his hackerspace door lock app to enyo2 Mar 30 04:06:40 Plasma Active? Mar 30 04:06:46 Nice Mar 30 04:06:54 im porting a mojo app to enyo2 :P Mar 30 04:07:02 Patrick, why another twitter app? Mar 30 04:07:03 PatrickC: Tablet OS based on KDE Plasma Mar 30 04:07:18 phil_bw, im the dev of a mojo twitter app. i want it on enyo Mar 30 04:07:27 rrix, nice.. Mar 30 04:07:33 it is Mar 30 04:07:41 I can't get the Meego kernel it uses to come up though Mar 30 04:07:43 Aren't there a ton? Do you have functionality the others don't? Mar 30 04:08:10 phil_bw, kinda.. we have well over 2000 users i think.. and this wont be a "webos exclusive" app either :) Mar 30 04:08:33 im aiming for the "first twitter app built off enyo running on every platform" Mar 30 04:08:39 Enyo2* Mar 30 04:08:59 I see, I just use the official twitter client and it works for me Mar 30 04:09:21 i hate the official twitter client on android.. and wp7 Mar 30 04:09:31 the android twitter client makes me weep Mar 30 04:09:39 I'm working on task list software that stays syced with my server and actually works *right* Mar 30 04:10:22 phil_bw: Nice, so am i, lol Mar 30 04:10:49 Added a JSON API to TracksApp and writing an enyo frontend to it Mar 30 04:11:07 I don't plan on going commercial with it, just need it for my own personal use Mar 30 04:11:35 Are you going to use your own server or someone else's? Mar 30 04:11:43 It's hosted on mine Mar 30 04:11:53 Good Mar 30 04:12:38 I plan on making the front end of mine open source, so if it ever has any parts you could use you're welcome to them Mar 30 04:13:49 phil_bw: what's your backend? Mar 30 04:14:20 It's all custom written in php Mar 30 04:14:26 Oh, nice Mar 30 04:14:57 I have actually been working on this project for years, the database structure has been done forever, now I'm actually building a front end Mar 30 04:15:41 It'll all use JSONP for communication so technically other clients could use it as well Mar 30 04:18:26 Nice Mar 30 04:18:37 I love how much of a hack jsonp Mar 30 04:18:38 is Mar 30 04:19:31 Oh I know it, my other project for work uses straight json but it's all on the same domain Mar 30 04:20:40 As long as it works right I don't care what I'm using for the backend Mar 30 04:21:13 Yeah Mar 30 04:21:52 well, im off to bed. first day of my new job tomorrow :) Mar 30 04:22:13 Night Patrick, good luck with the new job Mar 30 04:22:20 thanks phil_bw Mar 30 04:22:23 cya rrix Mar 30 04:22:33 ill email u sometime tomorrow with all the details on the app :) Mar 30 04:24:38 PatrickC: cheers. Mar 30 04:29:27 hello people! Mar 30 04:29:53 akanster! Mar 30 04:30:04 * PatrickC decided not to go to bed just yet ;) Mar 30 04:30:33 heh Mar 30 04:31:03 how you been? Mar 30 04:33:17 PatrickC: just took a look, looks like an Enyo application ;) Mar 30 04:33:34 akanster, been good Mar 30 04:33:45 rrix, hah.. maybe because it is :) Mar 30 04:34:12 Er Mar 30 04:34:17 Oops Mar 30 04:34:56 rrix, I'm interested in folli Mar 30 04:35:08 Flowing your app Mar 30 04:35:29 My god, nothing will ever compare to a physical keyboard Mar 30 04:35:40 lol Mar 30 04:35:45 webos ftw Mar 30 04:35:53 I'm interested in following your task app, do you use twitter? Mar 30 04:37:58 phil_bw: @rrrrrrrix, but it's full of a bunch of bullshit usually Mar 30 04:38:06 Rarely enyo tweets, lol Mar 30 04:38:30 phil_bw: it'll be on https://github.com/rrix/tracks-enyo when it is actually presentable Mar 30 04:38:39 Ah, that's what I use Facebook for Mar 30 04:38:43 :) Mar 30 04:39:20 Nice, I don't even have mine on github yet Mar 30 04:39:35 I don't either ;) Mar 30 04:39:58 I'm @phil_bw if you're interested Mar 30 04:40:48 * rrix stalkerbutton Mar 30 04:42:38 I'm kinda new to twitter so not much on mine yet but I'll be posting all of my Enyo stuff there as it happens Mar 30 04:42:45 Killer :) Mar 30 04:43:17 On vacation now though so it'll be all Facebook and it's requisite bullshit until Monday Mar 30 04:43:46 :) Mar 30 04:43:59 Got a great video of driving my Sorento through some deep ass water to get to my vacation destination Mar 30 04:54:15 Nice nice. Mar 30 04:54:22 Oooh, Archer season 3! Mar 30 04:55:01 heh, this guy's README is the best thing I have read in a while. - https://github.com/zylogz80/Red-It Mar 30 04:55:16 skip down to "Thanks" Mar 30 04:56:19 Fuckety fuck Mar 30 04:56:30 fuckety fuck you guys for open sourcing and stuff, yeah. Mar 30 04:56:38 I love all the rageopensource applications Mar 30 04:58:50 Hahaha Mar 30 04:59:11 lol, I was just as mad at HP too Mar 30 04:59:33 akanster: yeah.. i know :P Mar 30 04:59:36 well, im off guys Mar 30 04:59:37 cya tomorrow Mar 30 04:59:50 Luckily I never had enough faith to develop anything meaningful Mar 30 05:01:16 I dedicated a significant part of my life writing the most powerful IRC client for PalmOS. Then palm abandoned that OS and I was left with something nobody wanted. Didn't want that to happen again. Mar 30 05:03:31 phil_bw: Which did you write? Mar 30 05:03:56 ptpChat and it's sequel ptpChat 2 Mar 30 05:04:04 * rrix worked with tamhan and Johwil on one for a while Mar 30 05:04:24 As well as the IRC/IM client ChatWorks Mar 30 05:04:41 I'm honestly not sure who those guys are Mar 30 05:05:13 ah, well Mar 30 05:05:13 :) Mar 30 05:05:35 tam and I wrote some blog back in the day, johwil was one of the onboardc guys Mar 30 05:05:54 I see Mar 30 05:08:21 hmm, enyo.Ajax doesn't behave much like WebService :\ Mar 30 05:08:47 I haven't even touched on enyos Ajax implementation Mar 30 05:09:06 I have only used jquery thus far Mar 30 05:09:44 * rrix can't figure out how to get the params he sent to the query back from it Mar 30 05:10:01 No cluw Mar 30 05:10:58 I'm still working on UI crap with Enyo Mar 30 05:12:49 Well I need to go to sleep, so I'll talk at you guys later Mar 30 05:14:01 * phil_bw wanders off Mar 30 05:28:47 "DB8 NOW OPEN SORUCE" "not currently buildable" ... ugh Mar 30 06:19:55 like nearly all of the open source effort Mar 30 06:43:31 Yup Mar 30 06:43:36 Kinda depressing at this point Mar 30 09:11:06 rrix: open webOS you mean ? Mar 30 09:13:28 bhuey: the unbuildable sources Mar 30 13:48:29 i was able to build novacom Mar 30 13:48:39 in windows, even Mar 30 13:48:44 couldn't get novacomd though Mar 31 00:55:58 * fxspec06 le sigh **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 31 02:59:58 2012