**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 26 02:59:58 2012
May 26 03:01:46 <rrix> So,I added a create to my Slides.Slide with an enyo.log and an inherited, it never hits the enyo.log
May 26 03:10:17 <fxspec06> awesome.
May 26 03:10:33 <fxspec06> wait
May 26 03:10:35 <fxspec06> not awesome
May 26 03:10:50 <rrix> Right
May 26 03:11:17 <rrix> I'm thinking I should just make the node backend emulate the package.js structure dynamically
May 26 03:11:25 <rrix> and do proper enyo.kind'ing and stuff
May 26 03:11:39 <fxspec06> but this is nicer, and i feel it should work
May 26 03:12:09 <fxspec06> so you see component in addslide
May 26 03:12:41 <fxspec06> right .. ? you see the addslide logs
May 26 03:12:55 <fxspec06> if you put a log after var instance, do you see that? i'd guess not
May 26 03:13:22 <rrix> It dies in creating the SlidesPane, it never hits any addSlide calls
May 26 03:13:39 <fxspec06> ah
May 26 03:14:13 <rrix> without the components[] in the SlidesPane kind initialization, it hits that though
May 26 03:14:26 <fxspec06> do you see the incrementor and if you put something in create in slidees.slide do you see that log
May 26 03:16:58 <rrix> Yes and yes
May 26 03:18:54 <rrix> ok
May 26 03:18:57 <rrix> I think I've got something
May 26 03:19:31 <rrix> If I enyo.kind my slides, I can then create a component using this.createComponent({kind: slidename});
May 26 03:19:41 <fxspec06> it sounds like it doesn't know where to put which components
May 26 03:20:01 <fxspec06> probably when you specify components: inline, it overwrites any components you put in the file
May 26 03:20:13 <rrix> Yeah
May 26 03:20:49 <fxspec06> but you don't have components in the slidespane, though
May 26 03:21:47 <fxspec06> oh wow, really? so
May 26 03:21:55 <fxspec06> like component = enyo.kind({});
May 26 03:22:18 <rwatkins> controlParentName ?
May 26 03:22:34 <rrix> my XHR'd request is now something like "enyo.kind({kind:"Slides.Slide", name: "Slide1" ...})"
May 26 03:23:21 <rrix> and when am in main.setViewTypes() I do a slidesPane.createComponent{{kind:"Slide1"});
May 26 03:25:03 <fxspec06> when you do (for i in x ) doesn't that overwrite the global variable i opposed to creating a private variable
May 26 03:25:32 <fxspec06> nitpick anyways
May 26 03:26:31 <fxspec06> enyo.map -- i've still never used it
May 26 03:27:49 <fxspec06> bah i see
May 26 03:27:59 <fxspec06> what a great control
May 26 03:29:13 <fxspec06> might i ask what the purpose of the parens are : eval( "(" + inResponse + ")")
May 26 03:31:38 <rrix> it should, yes
May 26 03:31:53 <rrix> fxspec06: chrom doesn't eval a hash properly with the parens
May 26 03:31:56 <rrix> without the parens*
May 26 03:32:04 <rrix> if i'm using enyo.kind(), I'll remove them
May 26 03:32:50 <fxspec06> hmmmmm interesting. i think that could have helped me in past
May 26 03:32:59 <fxspec06> anyways, so what's not working
May 26 03:33:19 <fxspec06> addSlide() ?
May 26 03:34:14 <fxspec06> have you tried using this.createComponents() instead of component? i'm not entirely sure the difference..
May 26 03:36:43 <rrix> I've got it working now
May 26 03:36:52 <rrix> the enyo.kind()'ing worked
May 26 03:37:32 <fxspec06> cool
May 26 03:37:56 <rrix> fxspec06: Thanks for bouncing ideas and helping :)
May 26 03:38:17 <rrix> My friend and I are giving a presentation at the local mobile developer group about Enyo and using this for our presentation
May 26 03:38:49 <fxspec06> that's cool
May 26 03:38:54 <fxspec06> have fun
May 26 03:38:58 <rrix> Thanks :)
May 26 03:39:01 <fxspec06> prob b the hit of the show
May 26 03:39:11 <rrix> That's what we're hoping
May 26 03:39:38 <rrix> We're also considering turning it in to a service, where you just upload enyo.kind's or html and it creates a slideShow out of them
May 26 03:58:00 <fxspec06> i wish you could put vertical scrollers inside a big horizontal scroller
May 26 03:58:11 <fxspec06> touch scroll strategy doesn't play nicely with that
May 26 03:58:25 <fxspec06> probably my horrible code
May 26 04:03:16 <rrix> I could see how touchscroll could get confused by that
May 26 04:19:28 <fxspec06> damn, colorpicker in gallery rocks..
May 26 04:19:42 <fxspec06> thank goodness too b'c mine only had 8 colors
May 26 04:20:41 <fxspec06> ya touchscroll. i had to put my own scroll buttons, which is horrible solution but for what i'm using it for, it kinda needs it
May 26 04:38:03 * rrix just finished doing the last month's laundry
May 26 04:38:10 <rrix> now my bed is covered in a 3foot pile of clothes
May 26 04:38:12 <rrix> that I have to fold
May 26 04:41:13 <fxspec06> lmao
May 26 04:41:18 <fxspec06> i hate that morethan anything
May 26 04:41:30 <fxspec06> folding laundry. idk why. it's like, my least favorite thing to do
May 26 04:41:53 <fxspec06> wow list has a performOnRow
May 26 04:42:13 * fxspec06 needs to read the files more often
May 26 04:43:04 <rrix> I thought we were going to live in a future with auto folding clothes
May 26 04:43:08 <rrix> :\
May 26 04:44:56 <fxspec06> was it you i tweeted tat to
May 26 04:46:41 <rrix> I don't think we tweeter at eachother
May 26 04:47:00 * rrix is @rrrrrrrix on the tweetsphere
May 26 04:47:37 <fxspec06> lol well i saisd that to someone earlier. not today
May 26 04:48:51 <rrix> I say those sorts of things a lot, I'm kind of a dirty futurist like that
May 26 04:49:59 <rrix> I'm still in awe that I can tell the internet I want food and it shows up at my house
May 26 04:55:46 <fxspec06> lol
May 26 04:56:18 <fxspec06> ist here a enyo 2 alert box
May 26 04:56:19 <fxspec06> generic
May 26 04:57:20 <rrix> there's onyx.popup
May 26 04:57:40 <rrix> coudl wrap that in an alert kind and put it on the gallery ;)
May 26 04:57:49 <fxspec06> lol
May 26 04:57:54 <fxspec06> that's if i feel ambitious
May 26 04:58:07 <rrix> There are other feelings? ;)
May 26 05:07:25 <fxspec06> can you make a dynamic kind like:
May 26 05:07:39 <fxspec06> var alert = new alert("something");
May 26 05:07:52 <fxspec06> adn have the "something" be a param to access
May 26 05:07:58 <fxspec06> then call alert.show()
May 26 05:08:07 <fxspec06> otherwise you'd have more to write
May 26 05:08:11 <rrix> hmmm
May 26 05:08:22 <fxspec06> like another word or two, but still
May 26 05:08:54 <rrix> what about {kind: "alertKind", alertContent: "foo"} that defaults to hidden in your components block then just a method:
May 26 05:09:05 <rrix> this.$.alertKind.show("FUUUuUU");
May 26 05:09:27 <rrix> and then have it emit an event based on the output
May 26 05:09:37 <rrix> that's the most javascripty/enyoy way I can think to do that
May 26 05:10:17 <fxspec06> well ya i am doing that now, i just didn't know if enyo did it that way
May 26 05:10:46 <fxspec06> i think it does.. let me see
May 26 05:10:51 <rrix> yeah
May 26 05:10:54 <rrix> for popup, at least
May 26 05:11:21 <rrix> you would just create a show(text) method in the alertKind that set a div's content then called this.show();
May 26 05:11:22 <fxspec06> var alert = new alert(); alert.setMessage("stuff"); alert.show();
May 26 05:11:31 <rrix> huh
May 26 05:11:38 <rrix> Is that an enyo-ism or a js-ism?
May 26 05:11:44 <fxspec06> that's enyo-ism i believe
May 26 05:11:47 <fxspec06> let's try it h.o
May 26 05:11:47 <rrix> Wow, nice
May 26 05:12:30 <rrix> chrom doesn't like it
May 26 05:13:20 <fxspec06> nope
May 26 05:13:28 <rrix> Shoot, I didn't know this was a thing that happened http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/10/app-hack-popup-apps-26-oct-1-nov/
May 26 05:13:46 <fxspec06> lol
May 26 05:18:35 <fxspec06> you know
May 26 05:23:15 <rrix> I do
May 26 05:26:42 <fxspec06> i trued creating the component in an external normal JS function. couldn't get to work
May 26 05:26:45 <fxspec06> but it still should
May 26 05:28:52 <rrix> heh
May 26 05:29:02 <fxspec06> woah
May 26 05:29:04 <rrix> sound slike the same hell i just spent my last week in ;)
May 26 05:29:13 <fxspec06> woah woah
May 26 05:29:27 <rrix> woah?
May 26 05:29:41 <rrix> EricBlade-Syn: Are you going to ever let us play with your toys ? :P
May 26 05:30:22 <EricBlade> well right now this toy has a big box at the bottom that says "Messages can no longer be sent or received in this conversation."
May 26 05:30:58 <fxspec06> woah woah
May 26 05:31:02 <fxspec06> i got got got got it
May 26 05:31:14 <fxspec06> to work and it's super duper awesome
May 26 05:31:26 <EricBlade> rrix: wanna try it out? haha
May 26 05:31:30 <fxspec06> alls you do is this:
May 26 05:31:44 <fxspec06> alert( this, "some message" );
May 26 05:33:25 <EricBlade> the chatthreader service is a poop
May 26 05:35:51 <rrix> fxspec06: How'd you do that?
May 26 05:36:03 <rrix> EricBlade: haha, nice. chatthreader does suck :\
May 26 05:36:16 * rrix was mostly kidding I odn't have time to give more projects proper hacking :\
May 26 05:36:43 <EricBlade> rrix: if you have any insights as to it's internals, that'd be awesome
May 26 05:36:45 <fxspec06> hold on
May 26 05:36:48 <fxspec06> how do you create a node
May 26 05:38:13 <fxspec06> i got this
May 26 05:38:22 <fxspec06> how? because, i am genius
May 26 05:38:24 <fxspec06> (not really)
May 26 05:38:32 <fxspec06> i'll paste in a min
May 26 05:38:48 <rrix> EricBlade: I have very none insights lol
May 26 05:39:02 <rrix> just that it Messages can no longer be sent far too often for my sms contacts
May 26 05:39:11 <rrix> wow I can't word tonight
May 26 05:39:23 <EricBlade> lol .. my gf uses "word" and "verb" and "noun" as verbs
May 26 05:39:51 <rrix> "verbing weirds language," in the words of Calvin of Calvin in Hobbes
May 26 05:39:56 <EricBlade> now how the hell did it reconnect me to all my formerly open channels?
May 26 05:40:00 <rrix> I quite enjoy language hacks
May 26 05:41:17 <fxspec06> give me a width / height
May 26 05:41:24 <fxspec06> i think 400 / 300 is slightly too large
May 26 05:41:37 <fxspec06> this is pretty
May 26 05:45:57 <fxspec06> http://pastebin.com/McrPb0Tr
May 26 05:47:04 <fxspec06> i'll have to add a couple params
May 26 05:47:34 <fxspec06> but hey, it's pretty and it's stupid easy
May 26 05:48:32 <fxspec06> and you get the entire object back, so you can still manipulate after
May 26 05:55:41 <rrix> fxspec06: Very nice
May 26 06:01:28 <EricBlade> rrix: you get that message on SMS ?
May 26 06:07:18 <rrix> EricBlade: wat
May 26 06:07:31 <rrix> oh yes
May 26 06:07:32 <rrix> every so often
May 26 06:07:41 <rrix> mostly for contacts that I sms often
May 26 06:07:48 <EricBlade> i was under the impression that only happened with group chats
May 26 06:07:59 <rrix> the account_id gets deleted somehow so it can't associate the chat with a transport
May 26 07:04:19 <EricBlade-Syn> Maybe I'm here now
May 26 07:54:04 <fxspec06> http://pastebin.com/iNEZm8Jk
May 26 07:54:14 <fxspec06> i'm tired. i think it may be time for bed
May 26 16:33:21 <madnificent> i want to add an onchange event to a file upload.  how do i do that?
May 26 17:26:42 <EricBlade-Syn> Hello everyone
May 26 19:07:04 <EricBlade> yay gvoice for android just hit 100 users!
May 26 19:10:42 <fxspec06> you have four times more users than i have on android
May 26 19:10:52 * fxspec06 pathetic !!
May 26 19:11:57 <EricBlade> i'll probably lose 20 users tomorrow just because
May 26 19:12:07 <fxspec06> =(
May 26 19:12:24 <fxspec06> i've had just about as many sales cancelled as i have sales, i think
May 26 19:12:48 <fxspec06> all other platforms have at least five times more than android
May 26 19:12:54 <EricBlade> yeah i've got about 200 purchases
May 26 19:13:01 <EricBlade> 100 people who still have it installed
May 26 19:13:21 <EricBlade> and about 150 people who've bought it and refunded it.  well, 130 if you exclude the guy that bought and refunded it 20 times
May 26 19:13:30 <fxspec06> =O
May 26 19:13:47 <fxspec06> really
May 26 19:14:11 <EricBlade> i have to wonder if he was trying to get it to work through some problem, or if he was just buying it to check his messages, then refunding lol
May 26 19:23:34 <fxspec06> meh
May 26 19:23:44 <fxspec06> isn't the official google voice app free ?
May 26 19:24:03 <EricBlade> yea
May 26 20:54:38 * EricBlade-Syn yawns mightily
May 26 21:34:55 <madnificent> i want examples of enyo.JsonpRequest i can't find how to supply parameters, neither post nor get parameters
May 26 21:35:01 <madnificent> or an api
May 26 21:35:05 <madnificent> an api would be better even
May 26 21:58:05 <sugardave> madnificent: I haven't done any jsonp stuff yet, but the project I'm currently working on will likely use it.  I am waiting for some code from the back-end guy
May 26 21:58:22 <sugardave> so in a few days I might be better equipped to answer that question
May 26 21:58:57 <madnificent> sugardave: ah, i need it now.  i'm in a meeting and am patching things up
May 26 21:59:12 <madnificent> going to try FlyJSONp instead, at least it has a description
May 26 21:59:19 <sugardave> oh no, well....yeah
May 26 22:02:15 <madnificent> thanks though!  it's nice to get an answer :)
May 26 22:31:27 <EricBlade-Syn> I think there were several examples of that on the forums mad
May 26 22:32:08 <madnificent> are the forums closed for google and duckduckgo?
May 26 22:32:21 <EricBlade-Syn> Wha?
May 26 22:39:47 <madnificent> i should check myself in a few seconds
May 27 00:42:13 <madnificent> i ended up using a different library for it, as i couldn't get it running
May 27 01:21:53 <madnificent> wait, no!  i'm mistaken.  i tried another library, then reformed it so i don't need the cross-domain requests anymore
May 27 01:36:07 <fxspec06> what library
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