**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 17 02:59:59 2012 Jun 17 03:00:09 good to know Jun 17 03:00:11 I think Jun 17 03:02:04 lol Jun 17 03:02:49 then there's patrick Jun 17 03:03:08 hey phil_bw is out on his nightly walk Jun 17 03:03:12 i'm actually anti-here. it's not the opposite of being here, which would be not here. i'm so not here it's actually having a negative affect on the room Jun 17 03:03:24 invalidopcode, indeed Jun 17 03:03:29 after my actual nightly walk Jun 17 03:03:33 followed by some ice cream Jun 17 03:04:10 haha Jun 17 03:04:19 * invalidopcode just finished an ice cream cone Jun 17 03:04:42 it's getting hot over here in Oregon so I need all the cooling I can get :) Jun 17 03:07:08 haha nice... its actually been relatively cool down in here in Southern California Jun 17 03:19:23 hey peeps. sup Jun 17 03:23:54 evening EricBlade Jun 17 03:25:59 I'm doing a battery life test on our little Intel Atom powered netbook. Running an entire ripped dvd (uncompressed) from beginning to end Jun 17 03:26:08 gotta prepare for the long trip to colorado with kids :) Jun 17 03:26:26 hmm. i haven't seen our netbook since we moved. Jun 17 03:26:37 that's not good Jun 17 03:26:48 i was thinking about replacing my media center with it Jun 17 03:26:53 I lost my right speaker, you lost a whole netbook Jun 17 03:27:02 since my TV only does 720p, and my netbook does 720p Jun 17 03:27:06 ah, this little bugger would choke as a media center Jun 17 03:27:16 and since it has win7 starter it doesn't come with media center Jun 17 03:27:25 i should find that and give it a try Jun 17 03:27:36 so we've repurposed an old P4 dell as our media center, with it's decent video card it'll do full 1080p just fine Jun 17 03:27:38 it's an eee 900a, and i picked up a 500gig usb drive for it Jun 17 03:27:58 ours is a Fujitsu M2011 Jun 17 03:28:05 came with 600gigs built in Jun 17 03:28:56 I double taked when I was looking at the drive listing Jun 17 03:31:15 clearly we didn't look at the specs very well when we bought it, it was mainly for the wife and it was red and matched her old phone and also being a Fujitsu it matched my laptop... Jun 17 03:33:27 my eee has a 4gig SSD Jun 17 03:33:51 i'll run open webos on it one day Jun 17 03:34:15 when we bought ours SSDs were pretty much uncommon in anything, I think ours was actually the most expensive options for netbooks at Frys at the time come to think of it Jun 17 03:34:44 it's really not state of the art, it was probably actually cheaper than putting in a smallish hard drive at the time Jun 17 03:34:49 it's quite slow for a SSD Jun 17 03:35:24 phil_bw: man.. how long have we need wandering by? :) Jun 17 03:35:49 PatrickC, huh? Jun 17 03:37:02 i remember back before the touchpad launched you wandered by :) Jun 17 03:37:14 oh yes Jun 17 03:37:18 you have been wandering for a while :) Jun 17 03:37:42 well I've been using webOS since not long after it's arrival and used PalmOS since a Treo 270 Jun 17 03:39:07 wel ex PalmOS users are like dinosaurs Jun 17 03:39:27 phil_bw: reading what i said initially, it was suppose to say "how long have you been wandering by?" lol Jun 17 03:39:33 i had PalmOS Jun 17 03:39:38 PatrickC, that makes more sense Jun 17 03:39:40 and im only 16 :) Jun 17 03:39:57 though if I recall right you didn't use it for long Jun 17 03:41:05 i had an original Clie Jun 17 03:41:13 actually, quite a few of them Jun 17 03:41:19 still use one actually :) Jun 17 03:41:21 i remember playing with Palm 3's in the store i used to work in Jun 17 03:41:39 did either of you ever use my IRC client? Jun 17 03:41:56 i dunno which irc client did you do Jun 17 03:42:01 ptpChat Jun 17 03:42:01 when i got my first phone, i had the choice of a Treo or a Sanyo Incognito.. I told myself I would never get a Palm device (because I didn't like the hardware at all...) Jun 17 03:42:07 never heard of it Jun 17 03:42:12 never heard of it either Jun 17 03:42:44 it was the only one that would connect to multiple servers simultaneously as well as run in the background (that alone was unheard of for most PalmOS apps) Jun 17 03:45:16 after Palm started imploding, the company started selling Compaq iPaqs instead. those were pretty nifty for the time Jun 17 03:45:37 never used one Jun 17 03:46:05 i was a big compaq fan for everything but their PCs Jun 17 03:46:40 I didn't know they did much other than PCs Jun 17 03:48:42 i was cleaning up a giant mess of a situation at my former employer, and discovered a really nice compaq server box that wasn't on the hardware logs. I legitimately called the IT department and asked where it belonged, since it didn't belong at that location, and they told me that it had been written off and replaced by insurance since it had been missing for over a year, that it would be best for me to make sure that it disappeared an Jun 17 03:50:20 well that was a nice find :) Jun 17 03:51:11 in 2000, i had a dual-CPU 500MHz box :) Jun 17 03:52:41 the amazing part, though, was the hot-swappable hardware Jun 17 03:53:08 i did a lot of testing for the guys that were working on hot-swappable cpu and hard drive configurations in linux Jun 17 03:54:54 wow Jun 17 03:55:13 I couldn't even tell you what i was running in 2000 Jun 17 03:55:27 I think an AMD K6 300 (that thing was unstopable) Jun 17 03:57:11 yeh that was the last time i was top of the line anything Jun 17 03:57:47 it was fun to impress my nerdy friends by telling them to yank the cpu out of the computer while it was running Jun 17 04:02:55 well you wanna know what was cutting edge for me, having the absolutely fastest download speed of anybody in my town. This was 1999, can you tell me what that rate was? Jun 17 04:05:57 back in Pelican Alaska at that time (and still to this day probably) the fastest you could get was 33.6 dialup. One time I acheived 7kb/sec download speed and could get 6kb/sec pretty regularly. That was double what most people got :) Jun 17 04:13:34 hey is anyone available to give me a hand for a sec? Jun 17 04:16:18 nm, got it Jun 17 04:18:46 * phil_bw wanders off Jun 17 16:37:46 i dislike that i can't copy / paste from the api any more Jun 17 18:24:38 ok i have a question Jun 17 18:24:57 i am wanting to use the 'a' tag w/ a href on it Jun 17 18:25:27 how would i do this? { tag: "a", href: "http://www.somesite.com/" } doesn't exactly work Jun 18 01:13:50 wait for it... Jun 18 01:13:57 * phil_bw wanders by Jun 18 01:14:57 well look who the cat drug in :P Jun 18 01:15:13 'sup Jun 18 01:15:54 haha just hanging out. Wait, aren't you a father? Jun 18 01:16:08 indeed I am Jun 18 01:16:39 Happy Father's Day! Jun 18 01:16:44 thanks :) Jun 18 01:16:59 haha you're welcome Jun 18 01:17:54 now I'm trying to design a web site Jun 18 01:18:34 ah nice. how's it coming? Jun 18 01:19:30 struggling on color chocies Jun 18 01:20:05 ah Jun 18 01:20:28 Hello. How is it that kind:"enyo.List" and kind:"List" works but kind:enyo.List and kind:List don't work? Jun 18 01:23:07 string vs not string Jun 18 01:23:42 cant give you the technical reasons Jun 18 01:25:10 oh I see, order in package.js matters (of course). "$lib/package" should come first. and kind:enyo.List now works Jun 18 01:36:08 * bhuey lurks Jun 18 01:50:32 did enyo.List exist in Enyo1? I noticed the wiki page for Lists might be out of date and I only know Enyo2. Jun 18 02:35:32 enyo.List >> enyo is an object Jun 18 02:35:46 enyo.List refers to the List object of enyo Jun 18 02:36:22 if you log enyo.List, you can see it's entire properties. Jun 18 02:36:56 wehn you set kind: to a string, that tells enyo to search for that string in its dependencies Jun 18 02:37:12 then enyo sets the actual kind to that object Jun 18 02:37:26 i hope i explained that well Jun 18 02:38:59 fantastic job fxspec06 Jun 18 02:41:53 yes, except for my grammatical errors. switch it's and its and i got it, lol Jun 18 02:43:24 unless you incorrectly make that substitution on line 3 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 18 02:59:58 2012