**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 19 02:59:59 2012 Jun 19 03:17:32 can anyone explain to me how the heck $lib works in package.js? Jun 19 03:18:01 I have onyx living in lib/ and trying to reference anything inside of it becomes instantly painful Jun 19 03:31:52 I think I figured it out actually Jun 19 03:31:56 enyo was also under lib/ Jun 19 03:32:01 which was the source of pain Jun 19 03:53:51 sugardave: Since you're the only HP'er in here right now, what exactly is the license of bootplate? There's no license files and there are trademark'd icons in the repo Jun 19 15:15:36 Does anyone know how to color an enyo header in a function? Jun 19 16:31:59 are the enyo phonegap extras stuff still required for phonegap? Jun 19 16:32:19 can't find them in the bootplate app, but I can go get them if I need to Jun 19 16:47:52 * PatrickC *sigh* Jun 19 16:48:04 now to figure out how to get this app designed/built :/ Jun 19 16:48:31 summatusmentis: you read blogs, right? Jun 19 16:49:56 what are blogs? Jun 19 16:49:59 yes, usually through a reader Jun 19 16:50:27 baboo, its okay if I don't get the header coloured...but it would be nice if it changed :D Jun 19 16:50:57 summatusmentis: i was actually going to ask something along those lines. i was gonna ask if you used any blogs official apps? Jun 19 16:51:09 not for reading, no Jun 19 16:51:13 i thought it already did Jun 19 16:51:19 I like having all of my blogs in one place Jun 19 16:51:25 ka6sox Jun 19 16:51:26 as im going to be building one for my blog, and wondered what people thought about going native/cross-platform for those things Jun 19 16:51:44 I'm the wrong person to ask, as there's no way I'd use it Jun 19 16:51:54 ok thanks Jun 19 19:19:09 do we have support for facebook chat on 'modern' webos versions? we used to have it in 1.4.5 iirc (through a patch, indeed) Jun 19 19:43:55 madnificent: i beleive there is an app out now Jun 19 19:46:54 does it integrate Jun 19 19:46:57 + is it free? Jun 19 19:47:17 not *only* because i don't like spending money on apps Jun 19 19:50:24 PatrickC: i see now, paying app (but i don't have a credit card, so i can't) Jun 19 20:19:39 ah Jun 19 20:19:40 yeah Jun 19 20:32:37 baboo, don't forget my Sleep Button. Jun 19 20:46:39 hmm.. Jun 19 20:46:47 * PatrickC wonders what app baboo is making for ka6sox :) Jun 19 20:47:20 ka6sox: you and cryptic run the servers for WOSI, right? (i know, off topic for this channel, if you do, i would like to PM you about something) Jun 19 21:04:16 i gotta email PDC me thinks Jun 19 21:05:45 what's that email? Jun 19 21:05:58 gah nvm. Jun 19 21:06:19 fxspec06: you've used phonegap, yes? Jun 19 21:06:25 yes Jun 19 21:06:46 so, I can't seem to get it to properly handle touch events Jun 19 21:07:07 it's like it renders all the elements, but they're not hooked up, or recognizing that they're being tapped/dragged, or something Jun 19 21:07:16 do you have time to help a bit? Jun 19 21:08:48 a little bit later i will Jun 19 21:08:51 what platform? Jun 19 21:09:16 either android or iOS Jun 19 21:09:22 iOS is a little bit more responsive Jun 19 21:09:37 on android i had a lot of issues w/ enyo 1 Jun 19 21:12:03 this is enyo2 Jun 19 21:12:48 you can try capturing dom events in the special enyo handler Jun 19 21:13:08 and if it's ontap or ondrag then do stuff Jun 19 21:13:22 that's kind of a hackish way Jun 19 21:14:22 on android 2.3 & down you'll proabbly see horrible responsiveness, especially w/ scrollers Jun 19 21:14:31 you may find better luck with an iscroller Jun 19 21:14:52 but it's not even like it's not responding, it's like it doesn't know that they exist Jun 19 21:14:59 but that doesn't make any sense to me Jun 19 21:16:02 how are you registering the event handlers? Jun 19 21:16:21 ios and android don't have prototype.bind Jun 19 21:16:29 android 3.0+ does Jun 19 21:18:07 usually enyo.bind Jun 19 21:18:20 or setting them up the way enyo expects you to Jun 19 21:18:31 ah, right Jun 19 21:18:43 PatrickC, what about? Jun 19 21:24:05 what are you listening for? do mousedown and mouseup events work? Jun 19 21:24:52 on Android, nothing triggers, except my mapstraction wrapper, and then only sort of Jun 19 21:25:28 on iOS, Buttons will click, but they're not triggering the ontap events. I'm also not seeing any Scrollers working Jun 19 21:27:13 if you do: " window.ontouchstart = function(e){console.log('test');} " on android does that trigger anything? Jun 19 21:27:59 man android is one thing i hated working with Jun 19 21:28:44 i know there's a global enyo fn, similar to application events, that lets you capture all events... but i forget the function name Jun 19 21:29:01 i think it's "onDomEvent: function(inSender, inEvent){}" Jun 19 21:29:23 or it might just be "onEvent" Jun 19 21:34:04 so, I did my best to follow the instructions at https://developer.palm.com/blog/2012/05/5690/ Jun 19 21:37:11 hmm. i've never used it like that. Jun 19 21:37:20 i didn't know ther was a special enyo tutorial =P Jun 19 21:37:35 i've never used the Signals kind, either Jun 19 21:40:28 ok, well, I just tried a simple Kind, that just has buttons that trigger something simple, and that works Jun 19 21:40:33 so, crap Jun 19 21:40:41 well then. something somewhere is breaking Jun 19 21:40:52 maybe an inheritance issue Jun 19 21:41:00 a kind within a kind or something Jun 19 21:41:53 I've got all sorts of kinds within kinds Jun 19 21:41:56 is that bad? Jun 19 21:42:12 I'm also using bootplate's deploy stuff, but that should work too, in theory Jun 19 21:42:39 it shouldn't be... but for the sake of sanity you could try putting buttons in your main kind to see if they work Jun 19 21:42:58 and then test how far down they work Jun 19 21:43:24 I plan on moving to the Signals kind in the future Jun 19 21:51:39 it feels like I'm missing something simple, but basic Jun 19 21:52:48 fxspec06: will you be on later tonight? Jun 19 21:56:49 i'll be around Jun 19 21:58:55 ok Jun 19 21:59:06 well, ill just talk to you now :) had time i didnt know i would have lol Jun 20 02:52:07 * phil_bw wanders by **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jun 20 02:59:59 2012