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Nov 13 18:58:42 <summatusmentis> hi all, I've got a css question that I think is related to fittable
Nov 13 18:58:50 <summatusmentis> anyone around?
Nov 13 19:35:43 <fxspec06> yo
Nov 13 19:36:59 <summatusmentis> I've got 2 divs A and B. B is below A in a normal sized window, but as the window height shrinks, B starts to overlap A
Nov 13 19:37:10 <fxspec06> k
Nov 13 19:37:13 <summatusmentis> B is set fit: true
Nov 13 19:37:22 <summatusmentis> how do I get B to not overlap A, but instead to resize?
Nov 13 19:37:36 <fxspec06> is a fixed height
Nov 13 19:37:56 <summatusmentis> what?
Nov 13 19:37:58 <fxspec06> well i suppose that wouldn't matter. it should do that automatically
Nov 13 19:38:21 <summatusmentis> it doesn't
Nov 13 19:38:39 <fxspec06> {classes: "enyo-fit", components: [  {name: "a"}, {name: "b", fit: true  ]}
Nov 13 19:38:48 <fxspec06> like that? and it's not fitting
Nov 13 19:39:29 <fxspec06> i think i'd have to see the code
Nov 13 19:39:29 <summatusmentis> roughly, http://pastebin.ca/2251330
Nov 13 19:39:52 <summatusmentis> Mapstraction is div B
Nov 13 19:40:33 <fxspec06> i think your z-index might be messing with it, or bottom-margin
Nov 13 19:40:44 <fxspec06> isn't it margin-bottom, too
Nov 13 19:40:59 <fxspec06> bottom-margin is not even a CSS property :P
Nov 13 19:41:11 <summatusmentis> those were just attempts to get it to do what I want, they don't need to be there
Nov 13 19:41:20 <fxspec06> ah
Nov 13 19:41:33 <fxspec06> ok, i had this problem with hflex and i solved it, let me see what i got
Nov 13 19:43:39 <fxspec06> why do you have to use flex? can you use height: 100%; ?
Nov 13 19:44:34 <summatusmentis> we're deploying on a number of different platforms, with different screen sizes
Nov 13 19:44:46 <fxspec06> i mean, for the bottom div
Nov 13 19:44:53 <fxspec06> try height: 100%
Nov 13 19:45:03 <summatusmentis> it's a map API, it populates after being create
Nov 13 19:45:05 <summatusmentis> created
Nov 13 19:45:16 <fxspec06> it will work only for that container, it would work the same as flex
Nov 13 19:45:23 <fxspec06> what you want* is what i'm saying
Nov 13 19:45:36 <fxspec06> as long as position is relative
Nov 13 19:45:37 <summatusmentis> so rather than fit: true, use height?
Nov 13 19:45:44 <fxspec06> which is default i believe
Nov 13 19:45:51 <fxspec06> yes, try that
Nov 13 19:46:54 <summatusmentis> does the same thing
Nov 13 19:47:03 <fxspec06> hmmmmm
Nov 13 19:47:55 <fxspec06> add layoutKind: "FittableRowsLayout" to map
Nov 13 19:48:12 <fxspec06> ugh. i think that is it
Nov 13 19:48:53 <summatusmentis> still overlaps
Nov 13 19:48:58 <summatusmentis> but yes, that's the right layout
Nov 13 20:03:41 <sugardave> summatusmentis: the fit: true on line 02....is that owner we can't see a FittableRows/FittableColumns or layout of same?
Nov 13 20:04:02 <summatusmentis> it's a FittableColumns
Nov 13 20:04:14 <summatusmentis> which is why item is fit: true;
Nov 13 20:04:29 <sugardave> oh, and as a general rule...attempt to avoid using margins
Nov 13 20:04:47 <summatusmentis> as I said above (not sure if you saw) it's not necessary, just trying to get this to work
Nov 13 20:04:51 <sugardave> it can really do some odd thigns on some of the responsive stuff (like Fittables)
Nov 13 20:05:08 <sugardave> yeah, I saw...just wanted to get that out there :)
Nov 13 20:05:19 <summatusmentis> when I set the map height: 4px; and bottom: 0px; it follows the bottom of the screen
Nov 13 20:05:28 <summatusmentis> when it's not set bottom: 0px; it seems to shift around
Nov 13 20:05:59 <summatusmentis> (without fit: true)
Nov 13 20:06:04 <sugardave> so do you have a resize handler hooked up that can reflow/re-render the item?
Nov 13 20:06:23 <summatusmentis> what do you mean?
Nov 13 20:06:26 <sugardave> or I guess the parent FittableColumn would be a better place
Nov 13 20:07:15 <summatusmentis> I just tried both render() and reflow() in create, and it didn't do anything
Nov 13 20:07:24 <sugardave> so Fittables have to compute how big they're going to be based on the other rendered elements....they only do that calculation once unless you force it to reflow.  So, window size is x, it renders all nice...you resize to window size y, you need to re-flow it
Nov 13 20:07:52 <summatusmentis> well, since I'm targeting mobile devices, I'm not actually worried about resize
Nov 13 20:08:04 <summatusmentis> it's just related to when the window height is too short
Nov 13 20:08:06 <sugardave> okay, so is it not rendering properly in the first place?
Nov 13 20:08:17 <summatusmentis> not when window height is too short
Nov 13 20:08:21 <sugardave> oh, okay I'm up to speed now
Nov 13 20:08:42 <summatusmentis> I've been adjusting window size to test, but it's not related to the resize
Nov 13 20:08:52 <sugardave> and the overall goal is to have the map always stuck to the bottom of the viewport?
Nov 13 20:10:14 <summatusmentis> the overall goal is to have the map not overlap the div above it
Nov 13 20:10:18 <summatusmentis> and fill the space below
Nov 13 20:10:21 <summatusmentis> http://imgur.com/peXEv
Nov 13 20:11:29 <sugardave> hmmm, FittableRows should just do this for you
Nov 13 20:12:11 <sugardave> what is giving the button?
Nov 13 20:12:23 <summatusmentis> see, that's what I thought, but it's like the top of the div is ignoring the flow
Nov 13 20:12:27 <summatusmentis> which button?
Nov 13 20:12:35 <summatusmentis> the one under the line?
Nov 13 20:12:38 <sugardave> the "WATCH" button
Nov 13 20:12:45 <summatusmentis> CampaignItem (enyo)
Nov 13 20:13:02 <summatusmentis> that line you see is the 4px height map
Nov 13 20:13:17 <summatusmentis> as I adjust the height of the window, it moves further down
Nov 13 20:14:00 <sugardave> what kind of structure/controls is CampaignItem?
Nov 13 20:15:24 <summatusmentis> http://pastebin.ca/2251344
Nov 13 20:15:42 <summatusmentis> typo on ln6
Nov 13 20:17:05 <sugardave> does campItem class do anything "weird" in the style, like change position or float or anything like that?
Nov 13 20:17:06 <summatusmentis> I also just tried removing ln6 and fit: true from ln14
Nov 13 20:17:09 <summatusmentis> no change
Nov 13 20:17:40 <summatusmentis> padding, height, clear: both;
Nov 13 20:17:53 <summatusmentis> height in %
Nov 13 20:17:56 <summatusmentis> padding in px
Nov 13 20:18:16 <sugardave> whyfor clear: both?
Nov 13 20:18:42 <summatusmentis> I'm not sure there's a good reason
Nov 13 20:19:02 <summatusmentis> doesn't affect this though
Nov 13 20:19:04 <sugardave> if you're not floating anything, you shouldn't need it
Nov 13 20:19:06 <sugardave> yeah
Nov 13 20:19:14 <summatusmentis> it's probably left over
Nov 13 20:19:42 <sugardave> so, I'm wondering if just for a test, you could put the MapStraction inside the CampaignItem and it will render like you expect
Nov 13 20:20:53 <sugardave> bbiab
Nov 13 20:22:08 <summatusmentis> uh... yes, it does
Nov 13 20:22:17 <summatusmentis> oddly
Nov 13 20:23:26 <sugardave> okay, that's good....progress!
Nov 13 20:24:10 <sugardave> is it reasonable to leave it like that?  Is the map always related to the campaign?
Nov 13 20:24:12 <summatusmentis> can you explain what the difference is?
Nov 13 20:24:17 <sugardave> not yet :)
Nov 13 20:24:59 <summatusmentis> the map is always related to the campaign, normally these get populated separately into Panels, and there's an event structure setup for passing data
Nov 13 20:26:05 <summatusmentis> in theory, it's do-able to transition to this, but it'd be more work than a simple css fix would be :)
Nov 13 20:26:19 <sugardave> I don't think css is going to cut it here
Nov 13 20:27:04 <sugardave> so this MapStraction thing, I take it is loading from some web service and you don't know how tall it will be until you get it (in the absence of all css)?
Nov 13 20:27:11 <summatusmentis> correct
Nov 13 20:27:33 <sugardave> does it have a handler for when it's ready or has finished loading data?
Nov 13 20:28:05 <sugardave> er event that you can attach a handler to, I mean
Nov 13 20:28:11 <summatusmentis> yep
Nov 13 20:28:19 <summatusmentis> already doing that interally
Nov 13 20:28:49 <sugardave> does it expose it though so when you declare it like this, you can catch that event?
Nov 13 20:29:11 <sugardave> I might just do that, and force a reflow/resized on the CampaignItem after it's done
Nov 13 20:29:43 <sugardave> or not CampaignItem, the owner of that whole item
Nov 13 20:30:39 <sugardave> bah, get it right....reflow or resized on this.$.item
Nov 13 20:30:42 <summatusmentis>  this.straction.load.addHandler(enyo.bind(this, "makeBubbleLoad"));
Nov 13 20:30:53 <summatusmentis> where this.straction is a mxn.Mapstraction() object
Nov 13 20:31:54 <sugardave> hmm, that's not a familiar pattern for me....where is mxn.Mapstraction?  In the gallery?
Nov 13 20:33:02 <summatusmentis> mxn.Mapstraction is the library
Nov 13 20:33:08 <summatusmentis> external to enyo
Nov 13 20:33:13 <sugardave> I know....where did you get it? :P
Nov 13 20:33:24 <summatusmentis> http://mapstraction.com
Nov 13 20:33:49 <summatusmentis> you basicall instantiate a Mapstraction object, and you get functions to interact with it
Nov 13 20:34:11 <sugardave> oh oh oh....okay, not an Enyo-ized wrapper for it
Nov 13 20:34:12 <summatusmentis> this.straction = new mxn.Mapstraction(this.id, this.provider);
Nov 13 20:34:17 <summatusmentis> no, not at all
Nov 13 20:34:38 <summatusmentis> there aren't enyo-ized mapping wrappers yet
Nov 13 20:34:38 <sugardave> so, makeBubbleLoad is where?
Nov 13 20:34:48 <summatusmentis> insite MapStraction
Nov 13 20:34:52 <summatusmentis> inside*
Nov 13 20:35:02 <sugardave> what does it do?
Nov 13 20:35:11 <summatusmentis> it just informs the parent kind that the map has loaded
Nov 13 20:35:31 <summatusmentis> tells us we can draw points on the map and things
Nov 13 20:35:40 <sugardave> how?  enyo.Signals, sending an event, what?
Nov 13 20:35:45 <summatusmentis> sending an event
Nov 13 20:35:59 <summatusmentis> aren't those all the same thing, underneath?
Nov 13 20:36:23 <sugardave> okay, listen for that event, and then reflow this.$.item when you get it, or .resized() on it
Nov 13 20:36:56 <sugardave> summatusmentis: yeah, just wondering how it does it...if there's no Enyo event defined a la events:{} in a kind, not exactly sure how it is getting sent
Nov 13 20:39:55 <summatusmentis> right, so, makeBubbleLoad just sends an enyo event
Nov 13 20:40:18 <summatusmentis> this.$.item.reflow() or this.$.item.resized() doesn't do anything
Nov 13 20:41:06 <summatusmentis> wait, did you want the map to still be a part of the item?
Nov 13 20:41:12 <sugardave> yeah
Nov 13 20:41:19 <sugardave> not campaign itme
Nov 13 20:41:22 <summatusmentis> what does reflow/resized do then?
Nov 13 20:41:31 <summatusmentis> I'm confused
Nov 13 20:41:43 <summatusmentis> not a component of CampaignItem?
Nov 13 20:41:52 <summatusmentis> but still a part of the parent kind
Nov 13 20:41:56 <summatusmentis> yes?
Nov 13 20:42:04 <sugardave> so .resized() is supposed to let a control no its contents have changed sized and it should reflow/recalculate itself and children accordingly
Nov 13 20:42:29 <sugardave> yea, basically the first pastebing I looked at where you have item which contains 2 components, campaign item and map
Nov 13 20:42:42 <summatusmentis> so once the load event is triggered, call resized() on map
Nov 13 20:43:28 <sugardave> ah, maybe that's where I'm confused.  you can try .resized on map, but I would think .reflow on item should make them all re-calc
Nov 13 20:43:39 <summatusmentis> yeah, neither of those works
Nov 13 20:43:39 * sugardave crosses his fingers.
Nov 13 20:43:42 <sugardave> lame
Nov 13 20:44:05 <summatusmentis> the mapstraction library completely fills whatever div you give it
Nov 13 20:45:23 <summatusmentis> but more than that, it seems likes it's not following flow
Nov 13 20:45:39 <sugardave> wait a second
Nov 13 20:46:55 <sugardave> why not make campaing item fit: true and let the map be natural height?
Nov 13 20:46:55 <sugardave> dammit I cannot type at all today....too many things going on!
Nov 13 20:48:06 <summatusmentis> because I want map to fill whatever campaign item doesn't, and map doesn't have a natural height, because it gets filled after the API loads
Nov 13 20:49:07 <sugardave> okay, another test....if you comment the map and just put a fit: true Control in its place, does everyting render correctly?
Nov 13 20:49:54 <sugardave> maybe give it a border so you can tell if it's overlapping or not
Nov 13 20:49:55 <summatusmentis> no
Nov 13 20:50:11 <summatusmentis> inspecting it darkens the div, and it's still overlapping camp
Nov 13 20:51:43 <sugardave> okay, give me some minutes...I'm going to try and make CampaignItem work in a fiddle and see if I can duplicate that
Nov 13 20:52:16 <summatusmentis> it should just work in a fiddle, there's nothing special about it
Nov 13 20:52:47 <sugardave> right, I mean get a working example
Nov 13 20:53:18 <summatusmentis> stop right there
Nov 13 20:53:49 <summatusmentis> the campItem CSS class was artificially setting height to 20%, and everything was overflowing past the edge of the div
Nov 13 20:54:06 <summatusmentis> so it's not map that's overflowing, it's campItem overflowing it's boundaries
Nov 13 20:54:31 <summatusmentis> sugardave: stop playing in fiddle
Nov 13 20:54:35 <sugardave> yeah
Nov 13 20:54:46 <sugardave> so without your classes, things lay out in rows
Nov 13 20:54:51 <sugardave> it's definitely campaignitem
Nov 13 20:55:08 <summatusmentis> *headdesk*
Nov 13 20:55:13 <summatusmentis> I hate stupid mistakes
Nov 13 20:55:21 <summatusmentis> thank you very, very much for you help
Nov 13 20:55:44 <sugardave> np, good luck!
Nov 13 20:57:04 <fxspec06_> so what was it
Nov 13 20:57:10 <fxspec06_> css style i bet
Nov 13 20:57:15 <sugardave> height: 20%   yep
Nov 13 20:57:18 <fxspec06_> interfering
Nov 13 20:57:19 <fxspec06_> LOL.
Nov 13 20:57:28 <fxspec06_> that was first thing i asked
Nov 13 20:58:03 <fxspec06_> "<summatusmentis> how do I get B to not overlap A, but instead to resize?" "<fxspec06> is a fixed height"
Nov 13 20:58:08 <fxspec06_> i suppose i missed a noun there
Nov 13 20:58:15 <fxspec06_> anyways, glad it's fixed
Nov 13 20:58:47 <sugardave> *thumbs up*
Nov 13 20:59:07 <fxspec06_> er, glad the problem is fixed. not the div
Nov 13 20:59:14 * fxspec06_ ba-dum-tshhhh
Nov 13 21:00:01 <summatusmentis> lolol
Nov 13 21:00:25 <summatusmentis> fxspec06_: yeah, I had no idea what "is a fixed height" meant
Nov 13 21:00:52 <sugardave> B!
Nov 13 21:00:57 <sugardave> it's so clear now!
Nov 13 21:03:37 <summatusmentis> oh
Nov 13 21:03:40 <summatusmentis> as in A
Nov 13 21:03:50 <summatusmentis> not as in "is _____ a fixed height"
Nov 13 21:03:58 <sugardave> heh
Nov 13 21:04:22 <summatusmentis> anyway, thanks for the help, both of you
Nov 13 21:04:34 <summatusmentis> now I've just gotta translate this back into the bigger picture
Nov 13 21:04:50 <fxspec06> yw. that's why enyojs is here. for the 12 people who code w/ it to get awesome help
Nov 13 21:04:56 <fxspec06> :D
Nov 13 21:05:40 <fxspec06> i actually wonder what the ratio of #enyojs visitors to actual enyo writers is
Nov 13 21:06:04 <fxspec06> s/writers is/devs are/
Nov 13 21:06:04 <synergybot> fxspec06 meant: i actually wonder what the ratio of #enyojs visitors to actual enyo devs are
Nov 13 21:08:02 <sugardave> whoa, we have a bot again?
Nov 13 21:08:11 <sugardave> dun dun dun
Nov 13 21:08:42 <sugardave> fxspec06: I actually had people come up to our booth at QCon last week who had heard of Enyo before!
Nov 13 21:09:22 <fxspec06> wow, no way! lol
Nov 13 21:10:01 <fxspec06> i had to give a job reference for my buddy who did the internship for our school last semester (which we used enyo for). the guy i spoke with, who does work w/ MS stuff, had NO idea what enyo was
Nov 13 21:10:15 <fxspec06> i told him we both went to the bootcamp and he had to ask who hosted it
Nov 13 21:10:24 <fxspec06> i think he was surprised when i said HP
Nov 13 21:12:32 <sugardave> ah, yes....the ol'
Nov 13 21:12:41 <sugardave> "under the radar" ploy
Nov 13 21:12:46 <sugardave> we're good at that
Nov 13 21:12:52 <fxspec06> lol
Nov 13 21:12:58 <fxspec06> it's a good strategy
Nov 13 21:13:11 <fxspec06> take the market by surprise!!!!!
Nov 13 23:14:54 <EricBlade> i really hate not having flexbox.  so much easier.
Nov 13 23:20:08 <EricBlade> any suggestions as to how i would setup something so that it would layout with a couple of text items on the left, and an image on the right?
Nov 13 23:21:04 <EricBlade> relative positioning doesn't seem to quite do what i want, since the item still has space for it allocated where it would be without the positioning
Nov 13 23:33:54 <EricBlade> hmm. tables, maybe
Nov 13 23:34:00 * EricBlade barfs
Nov 13 23:37:36 <EricBlade> well, it's not perfect.
Nov 14 00:05:32 <fxspec06_> hrm?
Nov 14 00:06:47 <fxspec06_> a fittablecolumns container enyo-fit class, then three fittablerows in a row w/ last one fit true
Nov 14 00:53:19 <sugardave> EricBlade: if you haven't cracked it yet, here's a simplistic example: http://jsfiddle.net/sugardave/QsQaq/
Nov 14 00:54:29 <EricBlade> sugardave: difficulty level: must work inside an onyx.Item inside a Repeater
Nov 14 00:55:45 <EricBlade> further difficult: in that example, "the end" is not showing up there
Nov 14 00:56:11 <sugardave> it is showing in mine...
Nov 14 00:56:26 <sugardave> oh wait, it missed an important thing
Nov 14 00:56:28 <sugardave> hang on
Nov 14 00:56:36 <EricBlade> Opera 12.11 and Chrome 23.0 aren't
Nov 14 00:56:40 <fxspec06_> no, i see the end in firefox
Nov 14 00:57:04 <fxspec06_> and in chrome
Nov 14 00:57:16 <fxspec06_> 23.0.1xxxx
Nov 14 00:57:36 <sugardave> EricBlade: try again
Nov 14 00:57:53 <sugardave> the end doesn't go in the fittable columns, it's just there for the hell of it
Nov 14 00:58:04 <fxspec06_> lol
Nov 14 00:58:49 <fxspec06_> your boat... shouldn't the 'row's be 'bouey's? =P
Nov 14 00:58:54 <sugardave> anyway, everything that's inside that fit: true component SHOULD work in a repeater...unless it's a flyweight repeater
Nov 14 00:59:52 <EricBlade> as soon as i tried fittables in a enyo.Repeater, the formatting of everything exploded
Nov 14 00:59:55 <sugardave> I think....:/
Nov 14 01:00:10 <sugardave> yeah, I could be wrong....Fittables may not work in Repeaters either
Nov 14 01:00:23 <sugardave> I know they DO NOT work in Lists
Nov 14 01:01:02 <fxspec06_> they should work if you apply the fixed height property..... i know repeaters have that, where every row is the same height, right?
Nov 14 01:01:02 <sugardave> EricBlade: so you probably need to use CSS, position: absolute and floats
Nov 14 01:01:21 <fxspec06_> some enyo list type has that property
Nov 14 01:01:29 <EricBlade> sugardave: i'm going to need to hire a css person hah
Nov 14 01:02:11 <EricBlade> on the bright side, i have managed to put together a PalmService component that roughly mirrors Enyo 1, when combined with Jason's webos-ext
Nov 14 01:02:43 <sugardave> awesome
Nov 14 01:03:06 <sugardave> I'm trying to get a repeater/fittable sample working
Nov 14 01:03:28 <EricBlade> what this means, is that SynerGV should be able to become an Enyo 2 app quite quickly, if I can figure out the layout
Nov 14 01:05:02 <fxspec06_> ha
Nov 14 01:05:22 <fxspec06_> hmm. i should like, host game on! on github and release it for free
Nov 14 01:05:31 <fxspec06_> that way ppl could see examples of enyo 2... o.O
Nov 14 01:07:14 <sugardave> EricBlade: besides being incomplete for not returning true in the setupItem handler, this does work: http://jsfiddle.net/sugardave/geeaw/
Nov 14 01:07:54 <sugardave> fxspec06_: do it
Nov 14 01:08:55 <EricBlade> does that work because you're creating components in setupItem, or is that irrelevant?
Nov 14 01:12:34 <fxspec06_> i am. it has like 8 total sales. i bet it'd get like 10k downloads
Nov 14 01:12:47 <fxspec06_> whatever, downloads are super cool too
Nov 14 01:12:53 <sugardave> EricBlade: hmmm, good question
Nov 14 01:13:03 <fxspec06_> here eblade: https://github.com/fxspec06/GameOn
Nov 14 01:13:29 <fxspec06_> idk how much use it'll be. but i'm sure you can find something useful in the code if you want
Nov 14 01:14:24 <fxspec06_> just uhmn.... i shouldn't have used lists..... i should have used repeaters..................... so remember that. other than that it's cool =)
Nov 14 01:17:34 <fxspec06_> lol, there's like 3 comments in the whole thing...
Nov 14 01:17:37 * fxspec06_ goes back to reading
Nov 14 01:25:38 <EricBlade> ...and mock service data functioning, yay
Nov 14 01:30:37 <fxspec06_> EricBlade: in srcs/lib/ you can look at two files that have list manipulation inside flex layouts...... generator.js and bracket.js
Nov 14 01:30:57 <fxspec06_> bracket.js is probably the coolest example i'd say
Nov 14 01:41:44 <sugardave> EricBlade: here's one where the repeater component is a FittableColumns and the rest of the controls are defined in it as well (in other words, no createComponent in the setup handler)
Nov 14 01:41:48 <sugardave> http://jsfiddle.net/sugardave/9hjpx/
Nov 14 01:42:39 <EricBlade> sugardave: amazing. :)
Nov 14 01:43:26 <EricBlade> this is probably a dumb question, but if I don't give a component a name, what name does it get?
Nov 14 01:44:53 <fxspec06_> it gets assigned the name of the type of component, and then a number at the end if that name exists already
Nov 14 01:45:25 <fxspec06_> you'll get a warning there in the logs i believe, maybe
Nov 14 01:47:04 <fxspec06_> you know what's cool is doing console.log(window) and you can see like, everything in chrome, and browse up and down the whole enyo tree
Nov 14 01:51:18 <EricBlade> kind: "Something" doesn't get a name of "Something" .. shrug. i'll just stick to force naming everything, since i'm used to it :D
Nov 14 01:59:49 <sugardave> EricBlade: it gets a name of something
Nov 14 02:00:05 <sugardave> FittableRows becomes fittableRows
Nov 14 02:00:25 <sugardave> if there is more than one, that's when it starts appending -n where n is the next available #
Nov 14 02:10:31 <EricBlade> i see
Nov 14 02:13:41 <EricBlade> hmm. attempting to ellipsis truncate strings via css, as enyo 1 did, is quite a failure
Nov 14 02:20:02 <EricBlade> wow, Enyo 2 scrolling on Pre 3 has improved drastically
Nov 14 02:38:58 <fxspec06_> yes
Nov 14 02:39:49 <fxspec06_> it's almost usable in neo. i just have not fixed code structure issues ie i needa optimize my code, and i believe i can get it running killer
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