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Apr 20 03:11:32 <GodGinrai> hey, is there any place someone is keeping a list of the people who are committing to enyo and what their IRC nick is?
Apr 20 04:08:15 <GodGinrai> are any of the enyo devs at the keyboard currently?
Apr 20 04:36:21 <GodGinrai> madnificent: if you are still around, I noticed in the logs that you were looking for the "container" property of UiComponent
Apr 20 04:37:08 <GodGinrai> that is the property you would set to give the named component you want your component to appear in when you are using createComponent
Apr 20 04:38:01 <GodGinrai> this was near the end of March, tho'
Apr 20 04:38:15 <GodGinrai> so I don't know if you finally figured it out or not
Apr 20 06:07:53 <GodGinrai> bbl guys
Apr 20 14:52:40 <GodGinrai> sugardave, you there?
Apr 20 15:48:55 <GodGinrai> hey HaDAk
Apr 20 15:49:03 <HaDAk> hey GodGinrai
Apr 20 15:49:10 <GodGinrai> how's it going?
Apr 20 15:49:39 <HaDAk> meh. good things and bad things… they even out.
Apr 20 15:50:04 <GodGinrai> ah, k
Apr 20 15:50:11 <HaDAk> working today :(
Apr 20 15:50:19 <HaDAk> to make it worse, i have to stage upgrades on 40 appliances.
Apr 20 15:50:29 <HaDAk> half of them are broken and cannot be upgraded.
Apr 20 15:50:35 <HaDAk> the customer isn't answering emails :|
Apr 20 16:02:52 <GodGinrai> ah damn
Apr 20 16:03:54 <GodGinrai> btw, do you happen to know what the IRC nicks are for unwiredben, JayCanuck, etc?
Apr 20 16:04:12 <HaDAk> i don't
Apr 20 16:05:58 <GodGinrai> k
Apr 20 17:02:44 <summatusmentis> has anyone run into call stack issues with the new enyo?
Apr 20 17:10:00 <GodGinrai> I haven't
Apr 20 17:10:10 <GodGinrai> however, I've only used it to try building a growing text box
Apr 20 17:10:42 <summatusmentis> :-/
Apr 20 17:34:41 <madnificent> GodGinrai: hey, thanks for the advice.  i guess i solved it, don't know if i did it with container or not.
Apr 20 17:34:49 <GodGinrai> yw
Apr 20 17:35:20 <GodGinrai> in the logs you were talking about overriding the createComponents method
Apr 20 17:38:30 <madnificent> oh, it seems to get back to me now.  i must have done it that way...  and if container exists, then that is a lot prettier!
Apr 20 17:38:56 <madnificent> though i probably took another approach to the problem at hand, not sure what project that issue was in
Apr 20 17:43:27 <GodGinrai> k
Apr 20 17:45:35 <madnificent> i am happy to know that it was possible though. i t gives me some extra confidence :)
Apr 20 18:03:42 <GodGinrai> lol
Apr 20 18:28:33 <GodGinrai> are any of the enyo devs at the keyboard atm? I need to ask some questions about the source
Apr 20 18:56:34 <GodGinrai> hey scoutcamper
Apr 20 19:28:50 <GodGinrai> hey summatusmentis, that problem you are running into... is it something that comes up when you are trying to use MVC?
Apr 20 19:41:16 <GodGinrai> sooo.... idle....
Apr 20 19:45:51 <summatusmentis> GodGinrai: nope, I don't think so
Apr 20 19:46:00 <summatusmentis> I mean, I haven't actively been trying to use MVC
Apr 20 19:46:10 <GodGinrai> ok
Apr 20 19:46:18 <GodGinrai> what kind of data are you passing around?
Apr 20 19:46:34 <GodGinrai> I noticed in the logs you mentioned that you were reaching some max call stack error
Apr 20 19:47:06 <summatusmentis> yeah, it shouldn't be too much data, just some JS objects
Apr 20 19:47:42 <summatusmentis> I think it's because I've got an even that triggers building out of a relatively complex form (which consists of a number of different custom Kinds)
Apr 20 19:47:57 <summatusmentis> the weird part is that it works fine in enyo 2.0
Apr 20 19:48:21 <GodGinrai> have you tried viewing the call stack?
Apr 20 19:48:38 <GodGinrai> and are you using any recursion?
Apr 20 19:49:01 <summatusmentis> no recursion
Apr 20 19:49:13 <GodGinrai> oh, and are you using enyo.Input?
Apr 20 19:49:13 <summatusmentis> how do you view the call stack? I can look at the backtrace when it crashes
Apr 20 19:49:23 <summatusmentis> probably
Apr 20 19:49:27 <summatusmentis> hold on, I'll double-check
Apr 20 19:49:48 <GodGinrai> onyx.Input is derived from enyo.Input as well
Apr 20 19:49:56 <summatusmentis> yes
Apr 20 19:49:59 <summatusmentis> onyx.Input
Apr 20 19:50:08 <GodGinrai> k
Apr 20 19:50:14 <summatusmentis> is that broken?
Apr 20 19:50:17 <GodGinrai> when does this error occur?
Apr 20 19:51:00 <summatusmentis> what do you mean when?
Apr 20 19:51:17 <GodGinrai> like, the error happens when you are doing something, right?
Apr 20 19:51:38 <GodGinrai> like whn you are typing?
Apr 20 19:51:41 <GodGinrai> *when
Apr 20 19:51:58 <summatusmentis> no, the error happens on creating the Kind that populates the form
Apr 20 19:52:22 <GodGinrai> oh, hrm
Apr 20 19:52:33 <GodGinrai> wait, populates as in renders?
Apr 20 19:52:41 <GodGinrai> or populates as in loading data into the form?
Apr 20 19:52:47 <summatusmentis> createComponent, then render
Apr 20 19:52:48 <summatusmentis> yeah
Apr 20 19:53:00 <GodGinrai> k
Apr 20 19:53:47 <summatusmentis> specifically, it's creating something called a BikeCounter
Apr 20 19:54:22 <summatusmentis> which consists of a 16x16 table where each cell contains an onyx.Button
Apr 20 19:54:56 <summatusmentis> and a poorly implemented timer
Apr 20 19:58:19 <GodGinrai> hrm
Apr 20 19:59:14 <GodGinrai> what browser are you testing in?
Apr 20 19:59:38 <summatusmentis> chrome
Apr 20 19:59:42 <summatusmentis> but it does the same thing in safari
Apr 20 19:59:50 <GodGinrai> yea, obviously
Apr 20 20:00:22 <GodGinrai> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10761894/does-chrome-have-a-built-in-call-stack
Apr 20 20:00:30 <GodGinrai> shows how to see the callstack in Chrome
Apr 20 20:08:10 <GodGinrai> Anything interesting on the callstack?
Apr 20 20:08:16 <GodGinrai> Also, does the error appear in Firefox?
Apr 20 20:10:06 <summatusmentis> I haven't checked firefox, I'll have to wait to get back to work to see if there's anything interesting on the callstack
Apr 20 20:10:34 <GodGinrai> k
Apr 20 20:13:54 <GodGinrai> hey btw
Apr 20 20:14:02 <summatusmentis> do you have thoughts about what it might be?
Apr 20 20:14:03 <GodGinrai> do you know anything about IE's currentStyle object?
Apr 20 20:14:07 <summatusmentis> I don't
Apr 20 20:14:14 <summatusmentis> I haven't used IE in years
Apr 20 20:14:17 <GodGinrai> lol
Apr 20 20:14:21 <GodGinrai> I have to support IE8 at work
Apr 20 20:14:43 <GodGinrai> that's the default browser for our company, so all of our internal apps have to support it
Apr 20 20:15:23 <GodGinrai> to make matters worse
Apr 20 20:15:32 <GodGinrai> I have to debug IE specific problems
Apr 20 20:15:48 <GodGinrai> with an IE that won't open the developer window
Apr 20 20:15:54 <GodGinrai> no matter how I coax it
Apr 20 20:17:02 <GodGinrai> As for your problem, I'd have to see the code to get a better idea. I'm thinking you have a circular loop in there somewhere, where the event is calling something that is calling the event
Apr 20 20:17:53 <GodGinrai> like you render, and then in the render, the event happens, asking it to rerender
Apr 20 20:17:56 <GodGinrai> or something like that
Apr 20 20:18:35 <GodGinrai> what version of enyo does this work with?
Apr 20 20:19:14 <GodGinrai> you've tested w/ 2.2 (nightly? or release?)
Apr 20 20:19:21 <GodGinrai> where did it stop working?
Apr 20 20:19:27 <GodGinrai> we can check the commits around that time
Apr 20 20:21:41 <GodGinrai> hey Larry
Apr 20 20:22:46 <GodGinrai> summatusmentis?
Apr 20 20:31:19 <GodGinrai> It doesn't look like anything substantial changed in the render code to screw things up
Apr 20 20:31:26 <GodGinrai> since last year
Apr 20 20:31:40 <summatusmentis> sorry, got distracted
Apr 20 20:31:48 <GodGinrai> s'ok
Apr 20 20:31:55 <GodGinrai> what event was triggering
Apr 20 20:31:58 <GodGinrai> do you remember?
Apr 20 20:32:11 <summatusmentis> it's a custom  even
Apr 20 20:32:13 <summatusmentis> event
Apr 20 20:32:40 <summatusmentis> I noticed this when I did a git pull up from Enyo 2.0
Apr 20 20:32:56 <GodGinrai> I see
Apr 20 20:33:05 <summatusmentis> as far as I know, there shouldn't be anything circular
Apr 20 20:33:13 <summatusmentis> because like I said, it works fine in Enyo 2.0
Apr 20 20:33:27 <GodGinrai> when you get back to work, grab copies of enyo 2.1 and the release of 2.2 and see if each one of those has a problem
Apr 20 20:34:04 <summatusmentis> yeah, I will
Apr 20 20:34:38 <summatusmentis> thanks for the help
Apr 20 20:34:45 <GodGinrai> yw :)
Apr 20 20:34:46 <GodGinrai> I didn't see anything that seemed off in the changes to render
Apr 20 20:34:52 <GodGinrai> for enyo.Control
Apr 20 20:35:02 <GodGinrai> I'm looking at dispatcher.js right now
Apr 20 20:35:20 <GodGinrai> are you using bubble or do or Signal to send your event?
Apr 20 20:35:46 <summatusmentis> Signal
Apr 20 20:36:15 <summatusmentis> since it needs to span the tree, not traverse to a child or root
Apr 20 20:36:54 <GodGinrai> what does the event do?
Apr 20 20:37:59 <summatusmentis> passes some specific information to the form-populator, so that it can build out the context needed
Apr 20 20:39:02 <GodGinrai> where do you trigger the event? rendered?
Apr 20 20:39:18 <summatusmentis> nope, after a button press
Apr 20 20:40:24 <GodGinrai> k
Apr 20 20:40:37 <summatusmentis> roughly, we're collecting geographic information, so the user chooses a pin on a map, and once they say they want to give us information, we render out a "form" (with some specialized UI) based on the context of the location they chose
Apr 20 20:48:36 <summatusmentis> I've gotta run, I appreciate the thoughts
Apr 20 20:48:43 <GodGinrai> k, cya
Apr 20 20:50:06 <summatusmentis> if I find anything useful, I'll let you know
Apr 20 20:50:13 <GodGinrai> k
Apr 20 21:44:04 <GodGinrai> I'm heading out for the day, guys, cya
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