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May 20 19:44:45 <summatusmentis> this is kind of a weird question, but is there a way to use Enyo kinds to show traditional radio buttons?
May 20 20:04:23 <GodGinrai> yes
May 20 20:04:28 <summatusmentis> how?
May 20 20:04:40 <summatusmentis> I'm working on something that's roughly a "survey builder"
May 20 20:05:25 <GodGinrai> you going to have it build an HTML form?
May 20 20:07:09 <GodGinrai> btw: { kind: enyo.Input, type: "radio" }
May 20 20:18:26 <summatusmentis> GodGinrai: we're having people define questions and their possible responses (if needed) that will feed into something else
May 20 20:18:35 <summatusmentis> this structure is roughly like survey monkey, or something similar
May 20 20:19:07 <GodGinrai> I see
May 20 20:19:25 <GodGinrai> btw, did you see my answer to "how"?
May 20 20:19:57 <summatusmentis> yes, thank you
May 20 20:20:02 <summatusmentis> that's useful
May 20 20:20:30 <GodGinrai> yea, you can do that for any of the types that don't have their own Enyo kinds
May 20 20:21:20 <GodGinrai> I knew about this because I had been looking at doing that instead of the onyx radio buttons at one point.
May 20 20:22:18 <GodGinrai> Then I found an easy way to change the image for the Onyx radio button to match my color scheme
May 20 20:22:32 <GodGinrai> So I ended up using them instead
May 20 20:24:23 <summatusmentis> the onyx radio buttons are kinda weird for desktop use
May 20 20:27:31 <GodGinrai> I know what you mean
May 20 20:27:38 <GodGinrai> It depends how you use them
May 20 20:29:22 <GodGinrai> I used them in combination with an enyo.Panels and an onyx.Checkbox for a good effect
May 20 20:30:37 <GodGinrai> Oh btw, summatusmentis, you can use pretty much anything to emulate radio buttons if you use the enyo.GroupItem API
May 20 20:31:07 <Trex005> Can anyone take a look at this and tell me why SetupAddon is not firing? http://jsfiddle.net/trex005/JS3jw/3/
May 20 20:31:38 <GodGinrai> there's an example w/ Grouped Checkboxes here: http://nightly.enyojs.com/latest/support/examples/ui
May 20 20:32:01 <GodGinrai> plus that page shows a lot of the standard form elements in enyo
May 20 20:35:13 <summatusmentis> oh, that's interesting GodGinrai
May 20 20:35:39 <Trex005> Bummer..... been fiddling with it for hours.... I'll check back later to see if anyone has thoughts... thanks for your help.
May 20 20:36:15 <summatusmentis> Trex005: lemme look quickly
May 20 20:37:01 <GodGinrai> Trex005: looking at it right now
May 20 20:37:26 <Trex005> ohh... thank you guys
May 20 20:40:42 <Trex005> well the fact that it's taking you guys a few makes me feel a little better... maybe I'm not a complete numbskull :)
May 20 20:41:28 <GodGinrai> well, I don't ever use Lists XD
May 20 20:42:15 <Trex005> I really could use any multiselect... should I convert it to checkboxes? :)
May 20 20:42:16 <summatusmentis> I'm guessing it's a context issue, but I'm still trying to figure out the specifics
May 20 20:43:00 <GodGinrai> I see some discrepancies between this and the examples, So I'm fiddling with those
May 20 20:43:33 <Trex005> ya know... checkboxes are not a bad idea at all... the onyx ones look fairly nice.  I might just do that.
May 20 20:45:38 <GodGinrai> how many items do you need to select?
May 20 20:46:09 <Trex005> well... in theory could be hundereds.. but usually it'll be 5-10 out of maybe 100 options
May 20 20:46:41 <Trex005> well maybe 1/2 that (50 options)
May 20 20:46:57 <Trex005> and it will 99% of the time be on a PC, so performance is not that huge of an issue
May 20 20:49:02 <Trex005> I'm sorry I need to head out.  I have a whole group of my employees waiting on me that I was not aware were on their way when I asked the question.  I'll be back in an hour or soo... Thanks so much.. let me know if anything comes to mind.
May 20 20:49:25 <GodGinrai> k
May 20 20:49:52 <summatusmentis> I did a little bit of clean-up, but http://jsfiddle.net/JS3jw/7/ Trex005
May 20 20:49:58 <GodGinrai> Well, I'm leaving work.  I'll get back on when I reach home
May 20 20:50:55 <summatusmentis> Trex005: (I know you're gone) the issue is that since you have a List as the kind type, you need to define the handlers there, and not just pass the handlers like you would when declaring a list
May 20 20:50:57 <GodGinrai> lol summatusmentis, refresh() is one way to force it. :P
May 20 20:51:07 <summatusmentis> refresh() isn't necessary
May 20 20:51:19 <summatusmentis> I was playing with it
May 20 20:51:37 <summatusmentis> trying to make sure it wasn't doing something stupid with not firing events when created
May 20 20:51:54 <GodGinrai> ah
May 20 20:52:36 <GodGinrai> oh lol
May 20 20:52:50 <GodGinrai> I didn't even notice he was doing the handlers wrong. XD
May 20 20:53:05 <summatusmentis> I looked at it, I didn't realize it would be an issue at first
May 20 20:53:57 <GodGinrai> well anyways, I'll be on later
May 20 20:55:03 <summatusmentis> Trex005: here's one that's closer to your original, I'd pulled some stuff out to simplify, but this one is more similar to yours http://jsfiddle.net/JS3jw/9/
May 20 20:55:28 <summatusmentis> GodGinrai: thanks for the pointers above, appreciated
May 20 20:55:56 <GodGinrai> yw
May 20 21:17:35 <GodGinrai> back
May 20 21:56:54 <summatusmentis> have you ever played with interactive rows in a list?
May 20 21:57:27 <GodGinrai> long enough to get angry and just use a Repeater
May 20 21:58:08 <summatusmentis> how does prepareRow work? can you then just refer to this.$.item?
May 20 22:03:04 <GodGinrai> I believe that's how it is supposed to work
May 20 22:04:02 <GodGinrai> Here's an example of how to use performOnRow, which is essentially prepareRow and lockRow with your code as a parameter
May 20 22:04:03 <GodGinrai> http://jsfiddle.net/ryanjduffy/Ere3K/4/
May 20 22:08:01 <Trex005> I'm back....
May 20 22:08:06 <GodGinrai> wb
May 20 22:08:06 <Trex005> reading your input...
May 20 22:08:23 <GodGinrai> summatusmentis gave you a good answer earlier
May 20 22:08:27 <GodGinrai> look for his links
May 20 22:08:47 <summatusmentis> interesting, I think I figured it out
May 20 22:09:02 <summatusmentis> prepareRow might be easier though
May 20 22:10:12 <GodGinrai> yea, I think that performOnRow was made to deal w/ all the people who forget to lock the row once they are done :P
May 20 22:11:40 <Trex005> summatusmentis, and GodGinrai you guys are AWESOME....
May 20 22:12:31 <GodGinrai> :) glad to be of help
May 20 22:14:55 <summatusmentis> Trex005: did my responses make sense?
May 20 22:15:12 <Trex005> ummmm I THINK I get it... but the working examples work for me
May 20 22:17:13 <GodGinrai> basically Trex, the short of it is this: If you are defining a kind, declare your handlers in a handlers block (handlers: {}). If you are instancing a kind, define your handlers the way you attempted
May 20 22:18:09 <GodGinrai> hey summatusmentis, have you tried bitjs?
May 20 22:18:39 <GodGinrai> I'm looking around for the best way to unrar and unzip in JS and this is the only thing that seems to be coming up for unrar
May 20 22:19:07 <summatusmentis> I haven't tried it, no
May 20 22:20:48 <GodGinrai> k
May 20 22:29:53 <GodGinrai> lol summatusmentis
May 20 22:29:59 <GodGinrai> I just found out
May 20 22:30:04 <GodGinrai> that bitjs
May 20 22:30:43 <GodGinrai> was code that was originally developed for the same purpose that I was searching for unrar and unzip in JS for XD
May 20 22:33:55 <summatusmentis> nice :)
May 20 22:34:06 <summatusmentis> kk, gohometime
May 20 22:34:33 <GodGinrai> k, cya ;)
May 20 23:46:19 <Trex005> summatusmentis, in july of last year you were having an issue with scroller and contents not having a fixed width http://logs.nslu2-linux.org/livelogs/enyojs/enyojs.20120710.txt
May 20 23:50:19 <summatusmentis> yes?
May 20 23:53:58 <GodGinrai> Maybe he has an answer for you a year later, summatusmentis ;)
May 20 23:57:15 <summatusmentis> heh
May 20 23:57:22 <summatusmentis> Trex005: did you have a question about it?
May 21 00:04:19 <Trex005> I was wondering if you ever found a decent solution
May 21 00:04:43 <Trex005> I ended up just making an inner wrapper instead of writing items to the scroller
May 21 00:05:00 <summatusmentis> the best solution is getting fittables to work properly
May 21 00:05:03 <Trex005> but then I still need to know fixed height... which I then can recalculate... but it's still annoying :)
May 21 00:05:45 <summatusmentis> I think I ended up mucking around with fittables until they worked, but I'm not sure it's correct
May 21 00:12:13 <GodGinrai> I'm guessing you mean that you set fit:true for your scroller?
May 21 00:12:55 <summatusmentis> no, a few levels up the parent-chain I didn't have fittables set properly
May 21 00:13:11 <summatusmentis> so it wasn't propagating down
May 21 00:13:23 <summatusmentis> I don't remember the specifics anymore
May 21 00:13:28 <GodGinrai> ah
May 21 00:14:47 <GodGinrai> I can't really even think of too many times you would need to write kinds to a scroller directly, to tell you the truth
May 21 00:15:16 <GodGinrai> since if you need it to scroll, normally it's going to be a list of some sort, which you should probably be using a Reoeater for
May 21 00:15:29 <summatusmentis> we dynamically build out a form structure
May 21 00:15:53 <GodGinrai> an HTML form?
May 21 00:16:09 <summatusmentis> not directly
May 21 00:16:26 <GodGinrai> ok
May 21 00:17:24 <summatusmentis> it's the other end of the survey-like thing I was talking about earlier
May 21 00:18:14 <GodGinrai> yea, I was wondering if they were related
May 21 00:18:52 <summatusmentis> we're building a data collection platform
May 21 00:19:17 <summatusmentis> the mobile app was the first bit, (hitting REST APIs)
May 21 00:19:45 <summatusmentis> the stuff I'm working on now is the creation mechanism for what we want people to collect data on
May 21 00:20:01 <GodGinrai> I see
May 21 01:40:00 <summatusmentis> anyone know how I can add a set of components to a list, and have them properly set the content within them? mine seem to be stuck in the default
May 21 01:40:30 <GodGinrai> hrm... care to elaborate? I'm having a hard time picturing what you mean
May 21 01:40:45 <GodGinrai> also, my answers will be a bit slow, since I'm dishing up dinner
May 21 01:50:09 <summatusmentis> I've got a an "editable" list item in a kind, and I'm using that as a list item. When it's got a component that is just storing text, but that doesn't seem to change from the default, and I've tried various published parameters, or setter methods
May 21 01:50:20 <summatusmentis> I _think_ it's related to row locking
May 21 01:50:45 <summatusmentis> I'd use a repeater, but re-orderability is important
May 21 01:51:33 <GodGinrai> ok, so you've basically got something like an enyo.Input in one of your list items, right?
May 21 01:52:09 <GodGinrai> or do you mean like HTML5 editable?
May 21 01:52:18 <GodGinrai> where it's just a div or such that is editable?
May 21 01:54:25 <summatusmentis> there's an HTML5 editable?
May 21 01:54:47 <summatusmentis> I'm doing some weird display: none stuff with a component, and an enyo.input
May 21 01:55:20 <GodGinrai> there is an HTML5 editable, but it would be safer to use actual input fields
May 21 01:55:23 <GodGinrai> they have better support
May 21 01:55:33 <GodGinrai> what is the display: none for?
May 21 01:56:33 <GodGinrai> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Content_Editable
May 21 01:56:36 <summatusmentis> http://pastie.org/7937237
May 21 01:56:39 <GodGinrai> That's the editable thing
May 21 01:56:45 <summatusmentis> this is what I'm doing
May 21 01:57:38 <summatusmentis> how does enyo support the editable thing?
May 21 01:57:59 <GodGinrai> enyo doesn't do anything w/ editable
May 21 01:58:03 <GodGinrai> it's just an HTML5 thing
May 21 01:58:12 <GodGinrai> you can use it if you find a nice way to make it work :)
May 21 01:59:43 <summatusmentis> hrm
May 21 01:59:48 <GodGinrai> So btw
May 21 02:00:02 <GodGinrai> you can change the text in the input
May 21 02:00:12 <GodGinrai> but the input's value variable is not changing?
May 21 02:00:34 <summatusmentis> no, the variable changes just fine if I do it manually (with prepareRow/lockRow)
May 21 02:00:48 <summatusmentis> it's just on create that it's not rendering the input properly
May 21 02:00:56 <summatusmentis> s/input/control/
May 21 02:00:58 <summatusmentis> "cont"
May 21 02:01:30 <GodGinrai> so it should be saying "test" but it is not?
May 21 02:01:58 <summatusmentis> no, it is saying "test", but I've got other stuff in the list structure that takes new input
May 21 02:02:27 <GodGinrai> hrm?
May 21 02:02:31 <GodGinrai> what do you mean?
May 21 02:02:31 <summatusmentis> basically, setting "cont" in the onSetupItem function isn't properly happening
May 21 02:02:47 <summatusmentis> it just always says "test"
May 21 02:03:14 <GodGinrai> can you show me your onSetupItem code?
May 21 02:03:44 <summatusmentis> http://pastie.org/7937250
May 21 02:04:33 <GodGinrai> I'm guessing the reason setFill was commented was because it wasn't working?
May 21 02:04:40 <summatusmentis> correct
May 21 02:04:50 <GodGinrai> here's the other question
May 21 02:04:58 <GodGinrai> does this.fill even exist for your List?
May 21 02:05:07 <GodGinrai> this.$.oItem.$.cont.setContent(this.fill);
May 21 02:05:07 <GodGinrai> 		//this.$.oItem.setFill(this.options[index]);
May 21 02:05:16 <GodGinrai> the setFill was using this.options
May 21 02:05:21 <summatusmentis> yes
May 21 02:05:24 <GodGinrai> however your setContent call uses this.fill
May 21 02:05:35 <summatusmentis> check out create()
May 21 02:05:46 <GodGinrai> that's in a different function
May 21 02:05:49 <summatusmentis> oh, wait
May 21 02:05:51 <GodGinrai> *kind
May 21 02:06:20 <summatusmentis> I gotta run for a bit, I'll check that
May 21 02:06:23 <GodGinrai> k
May 21 02:21:32 <summatusmentis> that fixed it, you win
May 21 02:21:33 <summatusmentis> ty
May 21 02:22:24 <GodGinrai> :D
May 21 02:22:26 <GodGinrai> yw
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