**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 19 02:59:58 2013 Jul 19 07:19:57 good morning Jul 19 08:41:39 goodmorning Jul 19 09:15:23 morning dimk_ Jul 19 09:15:35 :) Jul 19 09:26:13 why am i awake? Jul 19 09:27:33 because the sun is shining, and it's nearly midday Jul 19 09:28:16 When you slept last time? Jul 19 09:32:00 two days ago? but i got some naps in Jul 19 09:35:07 and does this have a reason, or is it simply because you can't sleep? Jul 19 09:38:41 btw dimk_ I'm not sure if adding a web IRC client is going to be an improvement. I'm affraid that it would only add more clutter. Jul 19 09:39:04 it's not like this is the most helpful chat-room in the history of coding Jul 19 09:40:41 hahaha I know, I do not intent to add it by myself. Besides, enyojs must accept the pull request for something like this (and our pull request as well) Jul 19 09:41:31 for now , the target seems to me to be to refactor the whole code of presentor using the enyo patterns Jul 19 09:41:53 I think that's a great starting point :) Jul 19 09:42:24 once this is done, I just hook your module for disqus inside. But the logic now will be that you ll be able to hook any module you want when you create documentation for your own projects. Jul 19 09:42:59 indeed Jul 19 09:43:18 because now, it's quite the disaster. Jul 19 09:43:21 so if you want irc, even if it is not here, you just clone the project, build your irc plugin and you hook it in for your own documentation. Is not only enyojs that uses this documentation tool but many developers as well Jul 19 09:43:35 I made a branch on the forked repo Jul 19 09:43:44 would you mind to take a look the structure? Jul 19 09:44:16 https://github.com/DimitrK/api-tool-social/tree/dimk-api Jul 19 09:44:59 best add .tern-port to .gitignore ;) Jul 19 09:45:39 yeap, thanks for the notice Jul 19 09:45:48 I will delete tern-port :) Jul 19 09:48:04 don't make full code review pjetr, just the structural aspect Jul 19 09:48:27 :) Jul 19 09:48:35 I think it's okay Jul 19 09:50:24 question though. Why not put showInherited: false, showProtected: false, showSocialComments: false, inside published? wouldn't it be easier to have the auto getters and setters and the changedFunction? Jul 19 09:51:24 in Presentor.js Jul 19 09:55:13 yes. It would be easier. In fact, in the current refactoring I ditched the whole logic and implementation of these and you wont see anywhere filtering for these. It will come later on and I need to see how I am going to handle this Jul 19 09:56:24 this is the last push commit. the branch is one commit behind than my local ,so there are ongoing changes here. the structure of the code and directory must know if is acceptable in terms of easy interpratation Jul 19 10:06:46 well, there isn't a whole lot of folders to interpret, so for me this looks okay Jul 19 10:07:43 same goes for file structure. It looks good. you seem to use the same naming conventions as I do Jul 19 10:07:50 so that's easy for me Jul 19 10:08:16 that's nice. hope to be for the rest as well Jul 19 12:17:40 good afternoon Jul 19 12:18:00 good morning Jul 19 12:20:03 greetings Jul 19 12:43:15 with all these windows, it's like working in a greenhouse Jul 19 12:43:29 I think I'm melting Jul 19 12:50:30 How can you work ? Jul 19 12:52:15 suffise it to say that today my concentration isn't what is should be Jul 19 13:12:54 I understand you. It happens the same to me. Jul 19 13:56:37 time to go home Jul 19 13:56:38 bbz Jul 19 13:56:56 that was quick Jul 19 13:57:14 and random Jul 19 14:13:23 well, that's just how dimk_ rolls Jul 19 14:13:26 :) Jul 19 14:41:34 :) Jul 19 15:18:48 http://isitweekendyet.com/ Jul 19 15:18:53 http://theweekendhaslanded.org/ Jul 19 15:21:50 goodbye Jul 19 15:22:10 he's random too Jul 19 15:22:50 d:P Jul 19 15:23:19 a guy wearing a baseball cap sticking his tounge out Jul 19 15:23:23 oops Jul 19 18:01:43 good evening. I'd just tought i shoul check out this IRC app on ios. Jul 19 18:02:03 just sitting in my backyard with a glass of wine Jul 19 18:02:33 I must say, not too shabby :D Jul 19 18:09:19 heheheh nice!!! Jul 19 18:09:51 sounds fine ! To begin with, I dont have a backyard where I leave so that alone is awesome! Jul 19 18:53:50 hey Jul 19 18:54:06 Hi Jul 19 19:02:58 DimitrK: What are you doing mostly with EnyoJS, just curious. Jul 19 19:03:53 hola Jul 19 19:04:01 right now? fooling around and trying to improve it by creating libraries and contributing to the source code Jul 19 19:04:10 halo fx1 Jul 19 19:04:48 grr. this bash script calls deploy.js, but stuck on minifying enyo Jul 19 19:04:51 besides that olafura i am creating a "social" web app Jul 19 19:04:51 * fx1 banghead Jul 19 19:05:53 fx1: the deploy script works good for you? ?? on me is fucked up. Is creating directories and putting files inside deploy/build instead of /build Jul 19 19:06:02 what are you doing olafura ? Jul 19 19:06:12 yeah, it works great for me =) Jul 19 19:06:21 damn, I am doing something wrong Jul 19 19:06:25 yeah, you are Jul 19 19:06:26 DimitrK: cool, if it helps I have a database library: https://github.com/olafura/sundaydata Jul 19 19:06:37 deploy/build, that's correct Jul 19 19:06:42 that's where they go Jul 19 19:07:56 my index.html looks for /build on the same level as this is. Jul 19 19:08:03 olafura: You can check mine as well Jul 19 19:08:04 https://github.com/DimitrK/enigma Jul 19 19:08:11 yes, that's right also Jul 19 19:08:36 in deploy, your index is copied straight up and a build folder is created where App.js and all your other files Jul 19 19:08:52 :S I must take a look at it once more Jul 19 19:09:18 olafura: is there any official API on how to use your lib ? Jul 19 19:09:45 The best hints are in the test directory Jul 19 19:11:20 I'm going to be generating docs soon, I've commented the source code (SundayData.js) so you can take a look at that, otherwise it's pretty similar to pouchdb Jul 19 19:11:20 it's easy, you open cmd or bash in your app root directory, call "node enyo/tools/deploy.js", and watch Jul 19 19:11:26 I think it uses /build as the staging dir Jul 19 19:11:32 I saw that and I told my self that this is the starting point if api is not present. But API doc is preferable so no harm on asking ;) Jul 19 19:11:52 nice! Jul 19 19:12:05 DimitrK yes I want to make good documentation for it Jul 19 19:12:47 fx1: I was running the windows script not invoking the js with node Jul 19 19:12:51 thnx for the tip Jul 19 19:12:53 DimitrK I'm also almost ready to put a Beta label on it Jul 19 19:13:34 Truth is olafura that I was looking for persistent storage and I thought to came with my implementation Jul 19 19:13:52 now at least I see there are others out there Jul 19 19:13:57 DimitrK: instructions are handy sometimes Jul 19 19:14:17 now, WHY is this script sticking at minifying? how do you call node through a .sh? =\ Jul 19 19:14:39 I read some instructions fx1 but building the app at that point was meaningless for me, just gave it a quick look to see how it goes. Jul 19 19:15:03 who said about sh? Jul 19 19:15:07 I am on windows :P Jul 19 19:15:10 simply node Jul 19 19:15:34 DimitrK pouchdb? yes it's very interesting but it does things so correctly in the syncing department that it's almost unusable. Jul 19 19:15:46 i am on windows too, you can install bash and run .sh scrips straight from CMD Jul 19 19:15:54 download git bash Jul 19 19:16:02 I have the git bash Jul 19 19:17:02 but there was a .bat there for my convinience. how do you run node from within? is easy Jul 19 19:18:19 check my gist on how you run git from cmd to get an idea Jul 19 19:18:20 https://gist.github.com/DimitrK/5649020 Jul 19 19:18:55 DimitrK I often use Cygwin when I'm on Windows Jul 19 19:20:39 thank you for the info all of you guys. But still there is batch file which supposed to do exactly what it says ! :p Jul 19 19:20:48 but in any case I will go with node next time Jul 19 19:20:58 I feel more comfortable with it Jul 19 19:21:48 OHSNAP Jul 19 19:21:55 backspaces are escapes in bash Jul 19 19:22:00 bakcslashes* Jul 19 19:22:35 grr, still not working. Jul 19 19:22:56 how is this incompatible? all this script does is call command line arts Jul 19 19:22:58 args8 Jul 19 19:23:27 http://pastebin.com/MRfmkN65 Jul 19 19:25:49 this is result: http://i.imgur.com/6jysTbM.png Jul 19 19:29:03 something is off inside deploy.js Jul 19 19:29:34 the message you are getting is not invoked from the script Jul 19 19:29:40 no, because when i run it from CMD it works fine. Jul 19 19:29:42 and are you sure it hangs? maybe takes some time Jul 19 19:30:22 no, i'm absolutely positive Jul 19 19:30:32 it takes like 4 seconds when i run it manually Jul 19 19:34:26 this sh file doesnt need any header info on top ? Jul 19 19:34:41 it does. let me fix. Jul 19 19:34:50 #!/bin/bash Jul 19 19:35:05 uhm Jul 19 19:35:05 I think it has to have this to be correctly recognized Jul 19 19:35:10 i restarted CMD and Jul 19 19:35:12 it works. Jul 19 19:35:25 * fx1 shoots self in foot, screams, shoots other foot Jul 19 19:35:25 ok thn! good! :D Jul 19 19:35:57 i hate wasting time like that, thinking my code is wrong ->_________< Jul 19 19:36:26 hahahah imagine me , thinking that I can help you ! :D Jul 19 19:36:49 i mean help you fix it Jul 19 19:38:29 oh, so you're good? Jul 19 19:38:38 fuggit Jul 19 19:38:39 :) Jul 19 19:40:42 hahahaha Jul 19 19:40:53 totally Jul 19 19:41:06 If i can afford it I get good Jul 19 20:35:09 woo Jul 19 20:35:21 script is ready for uhh.. daily use ;) Jul 19 20:37:27 heheheh grats Jul 19 21:08:50 DimitrK: do you want this script Jul 19 21:09:02 it automates the minify / deploy process... Jul 19 21:09:32 would be nice fx1 Jul 19 21:09:49 gist it or something if you feel like sharing Jul 19 21:11:51 https://github.com/fxspec06/enyo-bootie/blob/master/BUILD_SITE.sh Jul 19 21:13:54 excellent! thanks Jul 19 21:15:51 yvw. Jul 19 21:16:02 the things i do to make my life easier Jul 19 21:19:26 is good that affects ours as well ! :) Jul 19 21:20:23 heh, i just wish more ppl took advantage of my stuff Jul 19 21:21:18 when someone needs it will look for it :)) Jul 19 21:21:41 I am thinking to migrate all my project from the normal bootplate to this one and give it a try on Sunday. Jul 19 21:53:47 my bootplate is the same as enyojs's, just added the build script to the root dir Jul 19 22:06:22 a I thought you made modifications in whole, and you use it for your own projects. So nice, the script is copied already to my dir :) Jul 19 22:06:56 nah, mainly i just forked it so i could have it on my computer Jul 19 22:24:58 nice script fx1 but why is node required? Jul 19 22:25:36 ah the tools.. I see Jul 19 22:29:41 joopmicroop: I think you need to repeat. fx1 was offline Jul 19 22:31:22 yeah I saw but took the oppertunity to go to the toilet :p Jul 19 22:32:02 fx1 I was just saying : nice script fx1 but why is node required? ah the tools.. I see Jul 19 22:34:41 node is required because node.js is what powers the minify script. Jul 19 22:34:58 because all of enyo is like a million nodes, and it's JS .... Jul 19 22:35:04 * fx1 loves his explanation Jul 19 22:35:22 i haven't delved into node.js a lot, i probably should Jul 19 22:35:49 yeah it's sweet Jul 19 22:36:17 async ftw Jul 19 22:36:30 (sometimes) Jul 19 22:41:34 yeah, the script will save me some headaches down the road. Jul 19 22:41:55 i made a script to deploy a enyo app to blackberry playbook, too, a while back Jul 19 22:42:02 works AWESOME Jul 19 22:42:16 i'd like to learn some more BASH though, eh Jul 19 22:42:48 If you want a first look at node.js I builded a small http server in node Jul 19 22:43:01 bash not so much Jul 19 22:43:37 builded a backup script once in shell script but that's all Jul 19 22:44:27 i wouldn't mind looking at the code Jul 19 22:44:33 in a bit though, i'm gonna go grab some grub Jul 19 22:44:55 been cleaning my comp for past ___ ever days, needs more work =\ Jul 19 22:47:03 https://github.com/Joopmicroop/JoopNode <-- for your enjoyment Jul 19 22:47:48 should of typed 'enyoment'... :) Jul 19 22:48:24 google keeps presenting me enjoy when I type enyo Jul 19 22:51:42 * fx1 shoots lasers at HaDAk's airplane Jul 19 22:51:50 careful. Jul 19 22:51:55 i'll shoot poo Jul 19 22:53:37 ooh please don't go chemical.. Jul 19 22:55:57 * fx1 sprays unknown bottle of chemicals at joopmicroop Jul 19 22:56:40 Nooo not the eye! :p Jul 19 23:00:16 * fx1 opens junk folder, pukes Jul 19 23:01:31 delete that thing and your computer will choke too Jul 19 23:05:23 tell me, why do i choose to save all these files? Jul 19 23:07:38 cause we're datadriven? maybe it's all or nothing in 1's and 0's.. Jul 19 23:08:41 * joopmicroop thinks that's a good explenation :) Jul 19 23:09:21 ah welcome newbeen Jul 19 23:09:57 made a little more changes but still working on it, at work :) Jul 19 23:11:02 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx1raQ6dEtZFMkI0UmwxMnlhX0U/edit Jul 19 23:18:17 hold up, removing junk files takes time Jul 19 23:26:30 yeah format trashdrive would be faster, I wish that they ever put that in those flash drives :p Jul 19 23:47:39 holy carp my puter feels good Jul 20 00:17:42 http://i.imgur.com/6BHSC4N.png is tough to maintain Jul 20 01:44:26 i've fond a workaround for fittablerows not working Jul 20 01:44:56 jsut add th width:100% style to each element Jul 20 01:45:12 just add the Jul 20 01:50:56 * fx1 thinks baboo has a layout problem Jul 20 01:51:03 you shouldn't need to do that, i've never had to do tha Jul 20 01:51:20 you probably have an improper nesting somewhere Jul 20 01:52:14 show me show me Jul 20 01:54:29 ok Jul 20 01:56:52 http://jsbin.com/ipidex/1/ Jul 20 01:57:03 i hink that's right Jul 20 01:57:53 it's http://jsbin.com/ipidex/1/edit Jul 20 01:59:19 1 sec Jul 20 01:59:30 ok Jul 20 02:03:40 something's not right there. idk what Jul 20 02:03:56 nobody knows why! Jul 20 02:04:05 :( Jul 20 02:07:32 chrome's debugger says Uncaught TypeError: Property 'scrollTo' of object [object global] is not a function spike.js:139 Jul 20 02:07:32 Uncaught ReferenceError: remoteWindow is not defined spike.js:86 Jul 20 02:08:39 i think JS Bin fails Jul 20 02:08:45 i'm trying to get a fiddle going Jul 20 02:08:53 ok Jul 20 02:10:05 you don't ever load the app Jul 20 02:10:18 you have to write it, or render it Jul 20 02:10:21 in my index.html i do Jul 20 02:14:30 http://pastebin.com/H3diw1jX Jul 20 02:14:43 http://jsfiddle.net/3wPYp/ >> here is your code running perfectly Jul 20 02:15:42 ok Jul 20 02:17:51 it doesn't work Jul 20 02:17:57 no rows Jul 20 02:18:19 just like without it Jul 20 02:18:30 hmm? Jul 20 02:18:54 oh, you want the button to show below it Jul 20 02:18:55 ? Jul 20 02:18:59 yes Jul 20 02:19:13 isn't that what it's supposed to do? Jul 20 02:19:51 i put a content there, it shows up below Jul 20 02:19:53 * fx1 debunked Jul 20 02:20:09 onyx.Button probably has some display: block; CSS property on it. Jul 20 02:20:42 i've found that only width: 100% works Jul 20 02:20:48 or, rather, if i add "display: block;" to the button, it works Jul 20 02:20:54 i'm telling you, it's the button Jul 20 02:20:55 ok.... Jul 20 02:21:07 if i add a control below it and put {content: "hello"}, it shows up as a row Jul 20 02:21:30 i just want it to look like enyo 1 Jul 20 02:21:45 :( Jul 20 02:22:02 i liked enyo 1 better than enyo 2 Jul 20 02:22:22 but enyo 2 works on almost everything Jul 20 02:22:52 http://jsfiddle.net/3wPYp/1/ >>>>> more proof Jul 20 02:22:56 groupbox shows up below Jul 20 02:23:19 1 was better GUI wise, but 2 has so many needed functionality Jul 20 02:24:30 i really want it with the stretched buttons and Flex Jul 20 02:24:41 although Flex won't happen Jul 20 02:25:14 so put a CSS property in your app, .onyx-button {display: block !important;} Jul 20 02:25:17 problem solved Jul 20 02:25:26 you can use fit: true, to stretch stuff Jul 20 02:26:00 i never knew there was fiit property Jul 20 02:27:49 yep. fit begins with Fittable kinds or layouts, and propogates down to it's children. the first child to apply fit: true, gets stretched to the remainder of the width or height of it's parent fittable, and its children then have the ability to apply the fit property again Jul 20 02:28:06 however unlike enyo 1 flex, you can only apply fit: true, to ONE element inside a fittable kind or layout Jul 20 02:28:16 * fx1 feels like he's explained this once or twice before Jul 20 02:28:17 heh Jul 20 02:28:27 hah Jul 20 02:30:08 i'm just going to edit the Control.js file in my app's enyo to fit: true everything unless i think i know what you're saying Jul 20 02:30:22 only the first element fits? Jul 20 02:30:35 and stretches completely Jul 20 02:30:53 http://i.imgur.com/NZhvQ.png Jul 20 02:31:20 that's a bad idea, i HIGHLY recommend against doing that Jul 20 02:31:25 so the red boxes haave fit : true Jul 20 02:31:58 oh yeah, because it would affect components inside components Jul 20 02:32:04 because if you do that, you're FORCED to fit: true, EVERY SINGLE "1st child" of EVERY FittableRows, FittableColumns, FittableRowsLayout, and FittableColumnsLayout Jul 20 02:32:15 and ONLY the 1st child Jul 20 02:32:19 i see Jul 20 02:33:26 so i have to width : 100% every element? Jul 20 02:33:38 so i can have it stretched Jul 20 02:33:52 https://github.com/fxspec06/GameOn/blob/master/srcs/lib/bracket.js Jul 20 02:34:05 if you have touchpad, go download my Game On! app, and you can view the source there Jul 20 02:34:12 you can see how fit: true, works Jul 20 02:34:25 width: 100%; would work i suppose, it's bad though Jul 20 02:35:25 so you're fxspec06? Jul 20 02:35:31 cloned? Jul 20 02:35:49 yeah Jul 20 02:35:59 cool Jul 20 02:36:30 i have touchpad Jul 20 02:37:20 preware or ap cat Jul 20 02:41:02 which one Jul 20 02:41:23 app cat Jul 20 02:41:33 ok Jul 20 02:41:41 it's nothing special but it will at least show you what you can do with enyo 2 and layouts.. Jul 20 02:41:55 ok Jul 20 02:42:11 my naming convention for folders was bad, so don't pay attn to that Jul 20 02:42:20 ok Jul 20 02:42:30 i spent 3 weeks writing this and it's a POS, LOL. but the nesting is sweet Jul 20 02:42:52 ok Jul 20 02:43:10 and one more.... ok Jul 20 02:43:31 gt brb... Jul 20 02:43:46 bye\ Jul 20 02:46:38 i'm about to throw windows backup and storage spaces through a wall Jul 20 02:47:05 hahahhahahhahahahahaha Jul 20 02:47:24 mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha Jul 20 02:47:45 this one drive, it storage spaces says it's using 1.45TB of capacity, right -- in explorer, it shows it only taking up 400!GB~~ Jul 20 02:48:26 so, when backup runs, i think it's got enough space --- in the middle of the backup it fails, and the drive shuts off -- windows tells me there is no more space left on the drive. Jul 20 02:48:28 :D i have a mac Jul 20 02:48:29 LAME! Jul 20 02:48:40 :D Jul 20 02:48:53 how about this, windows: DELETE STORAGE SPACE Jul 20 02:49:06 :D Jul 20 02:49:12 :P Jul 20 02:49:16 oh boy, now i have a whole 1.5TB to play with. just like i thought. only now my backups are GONE. Jul 20 02:49:26 * fx1 bites nose to spite his face Jul 20 02:50:19 all of my backups are good Jul 20 02:50:33 i'm backing up to my internal hd Jul 20 02:50:37 :D Jul 20 02:51:00 and my touchpad is faster than my computer Jul 20 02:51:04 :D Jul 20 02:51:39 literally Jul 20 02:52:10 ~210MHz faster Jul 20 02:52:45 my pre+ doesn't like the app catalog =( Jul 20 02:52:53 oh **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 20 02:59:57 2013