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Mar 25 00:37:35 <fallacy> Would enyo be considered a responsive web design framework, similiar to bootstrap?
Mar 25 01:06:17 <fallacy> The sampler doesn't look like it was meant to work well on the desktop at all
Mar 25 01:06:35 <fallacy> the main enyojs.com page adjusts properly on both desktop and mobile though
Mar 25 01:13:47 <summatusmentis> Enyo is a responsive framework, but it's intended as mobile-first (or perhaps with the new stuff, tv-first)
Mar 25 01:14:06 <summatusmentis> it's not "equivalent" to bootstrap
Mar 25 01:15:34 <fallacy> So it's not recommended as a framework for desktop and mobile simulatenously?
Mar 25 01:16:30 <summatusmentis> I wouldn't say "not recommended"
Mar 25 01:16:36 <summatusmentis> you certainly can use it for desktop
Mar 25 01:16:56 <summatusmentis> it'll work just fine in a bigger screen
Mar 25 01:17:23 <summatusmentis> but it's designed (the UI widgets/theme, and the interaction model) are intended to support mobile
Mar 25 01:18:09 <fallacy> How is that unlike bootstrap in that regard?
Mar 25 01:18:57 <summatusmentis> I guess I should say "intended to support mobile-first"
Mar 25 01:19:36 <summatusmentis> we're building 2 separate apps in enyo, one intended for the desktop, and one intended for mobile
Mar 25 01:20:32 <fallacy> So two separate code bases for both environments?  Isn't that against the whole responsive design idea?
Mar 25 01:21:51 <summatusmentis> I'm doing something special, since my 2 different environments are intended to do different things
Mar 25 01:22:10 <summatusmentis> I'm just saying, you're perfectly able to build apps for desktop in enyo
Mar 25 01:22:34 <summatusmentis> the major difference between bootstrap and enyo is that enyo is intended for webapps, not web pages
Mar 25 01:25:31 <fallacy> Yeah that's exactly what I'm looking for.  Thanks
Mar 25 01:25:50 <summatusmentis> sure thing
Mar 25 01:26:13 <summatusmentis> check out the demo apps they've built too
Mar 25 01:26:59 <summatusmentis> specifically - http://enyojs.com/samples/maps/ and http://enyojs.com/sampler/2.2.0/lib/layout/panels/samples/PanelsFlickrSample.html
Mar 25 01:29:39 <fallacy> awesome, thanks a lot
Mar 25 01:29:55 <fallacy> and I'm looking at 2.4.x stuff with data bindings from json, very cool
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