**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 20 03:00:00 2014 Jun 20 14:19:42 nearly weekend! Jun 20 14:23:24 nearly here! Jun 20 14:23:25 ;-) Jun 20 14:23:37 my friday hasn't been going very long :) Jun 20 14:26:27 well, goodmorning Jun 20 14:26:37 did you have your coffee yet? Jun 20 14:33:07 LOL having it now :) Jun 20 14:33:11 woke up a bit later today Jun 20 14:33:14 it's been raining all week Jun 20 14:36:41 the belgian wheather has been mighty fine, even a bit to warm for my likings Jun 20 14:36:50 we didn't even have a real winter Jun 20 14:37:27 this is the first year that I can remember that went by without a single day with freezing temperatures Jun 20 14:37:55 we've had some rain, but not more than other years Jun 20 14:38:03 Wow nice :) Jun 20 14:38:15 I'm currently in the frozen Tundra of Minnesota USA Jun 20 14:38:29 winter got down to about -30C this year Jun 20 14:38:48 way warmer in the city though Jun 20 14:38:51 constant 0 Jun 20 14:39:47 I would have loved some snow :) Jun 20 14:51:32 when you compile enyo, you get an enyo.min.js this is about 96KB, our app.min.js is 906KB :) Jun 20 14:51:44 well, it was during our last build Jun 20 14:51:50 it'll be more now Jun 20 14:52:00 project's getting big Jun 20 14:52:43 hey @dmanderson, in your courses, do you cover testing? Because I don't think we're doing it properly Jun 20 14:54:23 :) that still a good code base size! Jun 20 14:54:38 Yes I will be going through testing as well. Jun 20 14:54:41 As you using Jasmine? Jun 20 14:56:39 we're actually not using anything at the moment :s Jun 20 14:57:37 you might know the phenomena, rush the code, no time for the other stuff… Jun 20 14:57:57 but I think I'll only allow this to happen once though Jun 20 14:58:20 :) Jun 20 14:58:43 Yeah, I plan to cover jasmine unit based testing, and using cucumber.js for gherkin based UI testing Jun 20 14:58:47 we started this project in Flash, but then suddenly Flash was declared dead Jun 20 14:59:16 and we had to rush our code to get something deployable Jun 20 14:59:27 well I can appreciate the switch from Flash to Enyo for an Application :) Jun 20 14:59:43 at least it's still ECMA. Jun 20 14:59:51 And not Flash for apps. :) Jun 20 14:59:56 indeed, that helped Jun 20 14:59:57 though Flash is great Jun 20 15:00:22 most of your team do actionscript then? Jun 20 15:00:37 nobody does any flash anymore Jun 20 15:00:45 ah nice Jun 20 15:00:51 we start selling before september 1st Jun 20 15:01:10 coming quick! Jun 20 15:01:18 indeed Jun 20 15:01:49 I'm pushing to have a demo-version as wel, just to post to the enyo team :) Jun 20 15:01:58 and the room obviously Jun 20 15:04:56 hello everyone :) Jun 20 15:05:30 nice discussion you started here Jun 20 15:05:37 Nice! Jun 20 15:05:40 hey dimitrk Jun 20 15:06:02 :) when you have it finished, let me know, I'll be in the Santa Clara location by then, I'll pull it up to the team. Jun 20 15:07:05 will do! Jun 20 15:07:26 I read something about courses @dmanderson, is there anything online or is all about the future event? Jun 20 15:08:09 a future event. I'm finishing up beginners courses on Code Academy for Enyo, and moving through a series of them. Jun 20 15:08:51 I am also trying to put together an open Enyo is 24 hours book. https://github.com/dmikey/EnyoJS-eBooks Jun 20 15:08:56 wow great! I attended about 12 courses in code academy and they offer a great way to learn new stuff Jun 20 15:09:01 I think I'll modify the hours now, and include testing like pjetr suggested Jun 20 15:09:24 Yeah I really liked the format Code Academy provides. Jun 20 15:10:33 testing, coverage and analysis are really awesome things and you need to start doing them in your code to get a better picture of what can be inmproved...also maintained Jun 20 15:11:30 Recently I created a lib for enyo and I included these tools, just to take a look here is the lib https://github.com/DimitrK/orthos Jun 20 15:12:48 Source coverage and source analysis require a setup process of like 1h and then you just have them available. I am using grunt for that and a git hook before a commit to run and generate them. Jun 20 15:14:46 But you get really nice insights what part of your code you forgot to test (coverage) and which functions seem trivial and complex to maintain... possibly breaking single responsibility principle. Jun 20 15:15:20 I'll be watching both repos :) Jun 20 15:15:31 unit testing ofcourse is something you need to do if you want to push code with confidence... and saves time from the code reviwer Jun 20 15:15:32 now I'm off to enjoy my weekend :) Jun 20 15:15:57 * pjetr out Jun 20 15:15:57 pjetr: Have a nice weekend! Jun 20 15:16:06 thank's you to Jun 20 15:16:10 thanks! Jun 20 15:16:33 same for dmanderson! Jun 20 15:16:41 I'll read it in the logs :) Jun 20 15:16:51 I know you will :) Jun 20 15:18:00 dmanderson: I was thinking... is there a tool to include only the absolutely required kinds therefore, javascript code when you are minifing your enyo app? Jun 20 15:19:58 I mean maybe in your code you include enyo layout, onyx, mochi and moon. But you use like 3-4 kinds of each library, even from enyo framework itself, when you are minifing the app the whole libraries are included, right? Jun 20 15:44:37 hi guys Jun 20 15:54:59 nice dimitrk, that looks good! Jun 20 15:55:02 Hey SimpsonTP! Jun 20 15:55:25 wut Jun 20 15:55:28 I am not a guest Jun 20 15:55:31 ugh bouncer Jun 20 17:25:30 Hello enyo folks, is anoyone around? Jun 20 17:26:29 I have some FittableRows that I need to transpose programatically. Is there a way to do that? Jun 20 18:24:26 ey dmanderson Jun 20 20:57:23 Anyone awake now? Jun 20 20:57:40 O Jun 20 20:59:43 I'm have an object with a published property, and if I use setWhatever('blah') it works just fine, but if I just use {kind:"objName" whatever:'blah'} it never fires the changed method. any tips? Jun 20 21:37:43 alright, in one obj I have 4 published events, all of which I'm overriding at creation. 2 of the whateverChanged fire and the other two don't srcChanged and contentChanged fire, ratioChanged and fontSizeChanged do not. The only thing I see is that src and content are very common property names that other enyo objects use Jun 20 21:37:49 what am I missing? Jun 20 23:34:08 Hi everyone, I need help setting a propety. On one of my components I’m trying to set ‘fit: true’ programatically (depending on screen size), but calling this.$.ComponentName.setFit(true); isn’t working. I have the fit property set to false when the component is created. Jun 20 23:36:43 Nevermind, I sorted it out. I was accidentally referencing the wrong component. Duh! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 21 03:00:00 2014