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Jul 30 06:35:50 <pjetr> morning channel
Jul 30 11:09:34 <pjetr> afternoon channel
Jul 30 12:17:51 <dmanderson> morning!
Jul 30 12:18:23 <GodGinrai> good morning
Jul 30 12:22:04 <pjetr> morning
Jul 30 12:24:12 <dmanderson> Any midweek exciting news?
Jul 30 12:25:41 <GodGinrai> getting a new car soon, that's about it
Jul 30 12:29:09 <pjetr> cool, what kind of car?
Jul 30 12:29:39 <GodGinrai> a WRX
Jul 30 12:29:47 <pjetr> nothing much here, except that when my concentration drops at work, I started to write a tutorial for an enyo todo app
Jul 30 12:29:56 <GodGinrai> nice
Jul 30 12:30:15 <pjetr> backed with node, mongodb and running on a vagrant VM
Jul 30 12:30:37 <GodGinrai> sounds like a pretty impressive tutorial :P
Jul 30 12:31:04 <pjetr> it really isn't, just a complete one :)
Jul 30 12:31:10 <GodGinrai> lol
Jul 30 12:31:40 <pjetr> a WRX is pretty awesome :)
Jul 30 12:31:52 <GodGinrai> Yea, I'm looking forward to it
Jul 30 12:31:59 <dmanderson> Very nice chassis
Jul 30 12:32:23 <dmanderson> nice pjetr! more tuts are always needed!
Jul 30 12:32:51 <GodGinrai> Trying to figure out what to do for the audiosystem for it.  I don't have much experience w/ aftermarket car audio
Jul 30 12:36:40 <dmanderson> BOSE, or Alpine on a budget
Jul 30 12:36:44 <dmanderson> always go with a Pioneer deck
Jul 30 12:37:22 <dmanderson> for subs, I'm a big fan of JL Audio.
Jul 30 12:37:30 <dmanderson> I usually buy 3 8's
Jul 30 12:37:39 <dmanderson> vs 2 10s or 2 12s
Jul 30 12:37:57 <dmanderson> lol that's my setup anyway ;)
Jul 30 12:39:13 <pjetr> or harman kardon :) was just looking it up, and they even have a page on the WRX
Jul 30 12:39:14 <pjetr> http://www.harmankardon.com/estore/hk/us/about/content3.jsp?id=subaru-wrx-us
Jul 30 12:39:53 <GodGinrai> Yea
Jul 30 12:39:57 <dmanderson> Nice!
Jul 30 12:40:00 <GodGinrai> the problem with the Harmon Kardon
Jul 30 12:40:07 <GodGinrai> is that it comes bundled only
Jul 30 12:40:17 <dmanderson> ahh they don't sell aftermarket to you?
Jul 30 12:40:18 <GodGinrai> with features I do *not* want
Jul 30 12:40:33 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: nope
Jul 30 12:40:39 <dmanderson> Some vehicles do that with BOSE
Jul 30 12:40:51 <GodGinrai> the only way to get it is to get a $2.5k package
Jul 30 12:40:51 <dmanderson> BOSE will only sell engineered solutions into cars they have deals with
Jul 30 12:40:55 <dmanderson> you can't get an aftermarket
Jul 30 12:41:09 <GodGinrai> that forces me to have a nav w/ a touchscreen Head Unit and push-button start
Jul 30 12:41:24 <dmanderson> i love push button start
Jul 30 12:41:34 <dmanderson> :) esp after replacing the ignition switch on my 2003 Honda
Jul 30 12:41:41 <GodGinrai> I can't stand it
Jul 30 12:41:48 <GodGinrai> It's a car, not a computer <.<
Jul 30 12:42:00 <dmanderson> less mechanical parts :D
Jul 30 12:42:12 <GodGinrai> Yea, but it just doesn't feel right
Jul 30 12:42:15 <dmanderson> LOL
Jul 30 12:42:18 <dmanderson> I hear you.
Jul 30 12:42:30 <dmanderson> it's weird not knowing where the key is
Jul 30 12:42:36 <GodGinrai> lol that too
Jul 30 12:42:47 <dmanderson> "crap, do you have the keys?"
Jul 30 12:42:53 <dmanderson> "how did we start the car?"
Jul 30 12:42:56 <GodGinrai> XD
Jul 30 12:43:10 <GodGinrai> I could totally see that happening to me
Jul 30 12:43:42 <GodGinrai> I'm sure it makes demoing the car much easier for dealers
Jul 30 12:43:51 <GodGinrai> They don't even have to give the customer the keys
Jul 30 12:43:53 <GodGinrai> to test drive
Jul 30 12:44:04 <dmanderson> yeah, my kia only whines for a few minutes
Jul 30 12:44:08 <dmanderson> "KEY OUT"
Jul 30 12:44:15 <dmanderson> then it doesn't even care
Jul 30 12:44:19 <GodGinrai> lol
Jul 30 12:44:28 <dmanderson> it's like hey car, I left my keys miles away
Jul 30 12:44:32 <dmanderson> and you're still running
Jul 30 12:44:33 <dmanderson> :/
Jul 30 12:44:40 <GodGinrai> XD
Jul 30 12:44:44 <GodGinrai> that sounds safe
Jul 30 12:44:57 <dmanderson> lol
Jul 30 12:45:15 <dmanderson> I got in the habit of putting the keys in the NFC reader
Jul 30 12:45:38 <GodGinrai> your car has an NFC reader?
Jul 30 12:45:50 <dmanderson> most cars with push start have one
Jul 30 12:45:54 <dmanderson> so when the battery on the FOB dies
Jul 30 12:46:36 <dmanderson> you just shove the key into an NFC slot, and continue on starting it up
Jul 30 12:46:55 <dmanderson> the one for the KIA is built into the arm rest console
Jul 30 12:47:01 <GodGinrai> ah
Jul 30 12:47:12 <dmanderson> (big Kia fan here, after 2011 when Hyundai bought them)
Jul 30 12:48:02 <dmanderson> Do you have a blue tooth deck now?
Jul 30 12:48:08 <pjetr> I've never had the need to modify my car audio system
Jul 30 12:48:24 <GodGinrai> I think the WRX will have BT support
Jul 30 12:48:35 <GodGinrai> but nah, my current car is a 2002 Dodge Intrepid
Jul 30 12:48:37 <dmanderson> nice!
Jul 30 12:49:07 <GodGinrai> the Head Unit was made right when they believed CDs were the future, but before MP3 CDs were discovered
Jul 30 12:49:15 <GodGinrai> so it literally only supports audio CDs
Jul 30 12:49:32 <dmanderson> if you keep the same deck then, but want subs, use a high level filter, and you cam just use the rear speaker wires into an amp.
Jul 30 12:49:39 <pjetr> I have the same problem, my car is from 2003
Jul 30 12:49:51 <GodGinrai> no cassette deck (and thus no cassette adaptor for music), no AUX plug, and no bluetooth
Jul 30 12:49:52 <dmanderson> yea, i hsave a 2000 stratus
Jul 30 12:50:06 <pjetr> no navigation, and only cd's
Jul 30 12:50:20 <GodGinrai> pjetr: trust me, you don't want nav
Jul 30 12:50:21 <dmanderson> only cd-r - gentelmans
Jul 30 12:50:27 <dmanderson> not even cd-r +
Jul 30 12:50:40 <GodGinrai> Nav provided by the car companies sucks
Jul 30 12:50:53 <GodGinrai> If you want nav, get a real GPS or rely on your phone
Jul 30 12:50:57 <GodGinrai> they are both better options
Jul 30 12:51:05 <dmanderson> lol thats why apple maps suck
Jul 30 12:51:07 <pjetr> not always, My dad's renault had a TomTom built in
Jul 30 12:51:14 <dmanderson> provided by tomtom
Jul 30 12:51:15 <dmanderson> ;-)
Jul 30 12:51:24 <dmanderson> tomtom is better for global
Jul 30 12:51:34 <dmanderson> google maps superior for usa'
Jul 30 12:51:55 <GodGinrai> I have a Garmin GPS, and it works great
Jul 30 12:51:56 <pjetr> I just use Waez
Jul 30 12:52:03 <pjetr> waze
Jul 30 12:52:07 <GodGinrai> I'd be using Gmaps otherwise
Jul 30 12:52:12 <dmanderson> waze is nice too yea
Jul 30 12:53:22 <pjetr> but I live in Belgium, and when I leave the belgian borders, I no longer have (affordable) data on my phone
Jul 30 12:54:05 <GodGinrai> btw pjetr: most cars don't have tomtom navs :P
Jul 30 12:54:16 <pjetr> leaving the borders is 45mins to get to france, 1hr to reach the netherlands and 2 hours to get to germany
Jul 30 12:54:36 <pjetr> I know, most of the built in nav systems suck :)
Jul 30 12:54:49 <GodGinrai> yup
Jul 30 12:57:32 <pjetr> dmanderson, how's your book getting along?
Jul 30 13:01:42 <pjetr> writing a tutorial is hard :)
Jul 30 13:01:50 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: you have multiple subs in your car?
Jul 30 13:03:13 <pjetr> do you paste an entire class if it's small enough, and then just explain it, or do you first explain it, and the paste it. OR do you paste the code in snippets that you explain. And just give a link to the sourcecode?
Jul 30 13:04:05 <GodGinrai> pjetr: Depends on your teaching style
Jul 30 13:04:55 <pjetr> it's my first ever tutorial :)
Jul 30 13:05:03 <GodGinrai> often times you will describe your problem and specifications, then code snippet, then explanation of your solution
Jul 30 13:05:12 <GodGinrai> and how it matches the given specs
Jul 30 13:07:05 <GodGinrai> pjetr: The Pro Git book is a good example for a teaching style: http://git-scm.com/book/en/Git-Branching-What-a-Branch-Is
Jul 30 13:07:44 <pjetr> indeed it is, thanks!
Jul 30 13:07:49 <GodGinrai> yw
Jul 30 14:16:27 <pjetr> </workday>
Jul 30 14:16:31 * pjetr out
Jul 30 14:22:35 <GodGinrai> Hey dmanderson
Jul 30 14:22:47 <dmanderson> yo yo!
Jul 30 14:22:54 <GodGinrai> is there any easy way to escape json strings in JS or Enyo?
Jul 30 14:23:11 <GodGinrai> I'm sure there is, but my mind is drawing a blank
Jul 30 14:31:46 <GodGinrai> o.o
Jul 30 14:32:31 <dmanderson> using JSON.parse?
Jul 30 14:33:05 <GodGinrai> JSON.parse returns a json object, doesn't it?
Jul 30 14:50:37 <SimpsonTP> hi all
Jul 30 14:50:43 <chall> mornin'
Jul 30 14:51:10 <SimpsonTP> dmanderson, got my mail ?
Jul 30 14:51:30 <dmanderson> I did!
Jul 30 14:51:32 <dmanderson> morning chall
Jul 30 14:53:28 <SimpsonTP> ok :)
Jul 30 16:02:29 <GodGinrai> morning chall, SimpsonTP
Jul 30 17:26:38 <dmanderson> Sorry I stepped away Simpsontp
Jul 30 17:27:14 <SimpsonTP> so did I ;)
Jul 30 17:32:49 <GodGinrai> lol
Jul 30 19:13:13 <SimpsonTP> back
Jul 30 19:13:30 <SimpsonTP> my job does not allow to say when I leave ;)
Jul 30 19:13:43 <GodGinrai> what?
Jul 30 19:14:00 <GodGinrai> what do you mean?
Jul 30 19:16:00 <SimpsonTP> I only tell when I'm back, when I walk away I don't have time to say so
Jul 30 19:16:48 <GodGinrai> ah, I see
Jul 30 19:16:55 <GodGinrai> you could type: /away
Jul 30 19:16:55 <GodGinrai> :P
Jul 30 19:18:58 <dmanderson> lol
Jul 30 19:19:56 <SimpsonTP> GodGinrai, I don't have time for that ;)
Jul 30 19:31:56 <SimpsonTP> dmanderson, did you get what the paper was about ?
Jul 30 20:14:36 <GodGinrai> :P
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