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Aug 20 04:55:30 <Zectbumo> GodGinrai: busy day, so what about this state change fiddle?
Aug 20 06:18:16 <pjetr> morning
Aug 20 11:35:55 <pjetr> afternoon
Aug 20 11:36:01 <joop> Howcome I can't bind some objects and others work? no clue what's the difference between them
Aug 20 11:36:14 <joop> hi pjetr
Aug 20 11:36:21 <pjetr> hi joop :)
Aug 20 11:36:33 <pjetr> haven't worked with binding yet…
Aug 20 11:42:52 <joop> seems like the object that worked was created with new directly in the component init
Aug 20 11:43:19 <joop> the others where also created with new but inserted in te component with this.obj
Aug 20 15:04:51 <GodGinrai> hey dmanderson, sugardave, you guys there?
Aug 20 15:07:33 <GodGinrai> morning SimpsonTP
Aug 20 15:08:28 <SimpsonTP> yup when i'm on this side of the world its morning ;)
Aug 20 15:09:33 <GodGinrai> lol
Aug 20 15:09:53 <GodGinrai> you travel internationally?
Aug 20 15:20:36 <SimpsonTP> yup I'm in San Jose now
Aug 20 15:21:18 <GodGinrai> nice
Aug 20 15:24:21 <SimpsonTP> and where are you based again ?
Aug 20 15:24:47 <GodGinrai> I'm on the East Coast
Aug 20 15:25:07 <GodGinrai> in GA
Aug 20 15:40:51 <SimpsonTP> ok
Aug 20 16:17:41 <SimpsonTP> re
Aug 20 16:17:59 <GodGinrai> wb
Aug 20 16:19:36 <SimpsonTP> did dmanderson show up today ?
Aug 20 16:20:27 <dmanderson> morning
Aug 20 16:20:28 <dmanderson> I’m here
Aug 20 16:20:29 <dmanderson> :-p
Aug 20 16:20:47 <dmanderson> GodGinrai, I worked in GA for a few years.
Aug 20 16:20:49 <dmanderson> I melt down there
Aug 20 16:20:50 <dmanderson> ;-)
Aug 20 17:24:59 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: yea, I'm not a fan of the climate.  I miss snow :(
Aug 20 17:29:20 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: I have a question about Enyo's github setup
Aug 20 17:30:11 <GodGinrai> bbl, meeting
Aug 20 17:32:14 <GodGinrai> oh nvm
Aug 20 17:32:19 <GodGinrai> meeting was canceled
Aug 20 17:32:22 <GodGinrai> *cancelled
Aug 20 17:39:42 <SimpsonTP> ?
Aug 20 17:40:21 <GodGinrai> SimpsonTP: I was about to afk for a meeting, but the meeting was cancelled
Aug 20 17:41:57 <dmanderson> Whatsup GodGinrai?
Aug 20 17:45:43 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: So, for your private githubs.  They are all under one organization?
Aug 20 17:51:42 <dmanderson> GodGinrai, as far as I know yea
Aug 20 17:52:43 <GodGinrai> And those who belong to the org can fork the private repos to get their own private forks
Aug 20 17:52:46 <GodGinrai> correct?
Aug 20 18:10:01 <dmanderson> yup!
Aug 20 18:14:49 <GodGinrai> ok
Aug 20 18:15:02 <GodGinrai> So, I noticed there were separate orgs for Enyo and OWO
Aug 20 18:15:32 <GodGinrai> does that mean that LG is paying for multiple organizations?
Aug 20 18:24:54 <dmanderson> No, the Enyo team is seperate from the webOS team.
Aug 20 18:25:03 <dmanderson> Enyo is consumed into webOS builds
Aug 20 18:25:38 <dmanderson> There is a ton more logistics than I’m saying :) But, Enyo is fairly ‘seperate’ as an idea of the Framework.
Aug 20 18:25:48 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: No, I realize that.  But the "organizations" on github are both being paid for by LG as separate entities
Aug 20 18:26:02 <dmanderson> Oh, I see what you are saying.
Aug 20 18:26:23 <dmanderson> Quite possible, I’m not privy to that, but I would imagine it would be two seperate orgs
Aug 20 18:26:32 <dmanderson> s/saying/typing
Aug 20 18:26:48 <GodGinrai> yea, as far as I can tell, only one org can be tied to a github paid plan
Aug 20 18:26:52 <SimpsonTP> dmanderson, so you look beyond moonstone / TV use as a team as well
Aug 20 18:27:22 <dmanderson> Absolutely
Aug 20 18:28:11 <GodGinrai> SimpsonTP: And I hope the WebOS team is doing the same ;)
Aug 20 18:28:34 <dmanderson> I’m still a fan of using EnyoJS in the open web
Aug 20 18:28:35 <dmanderson> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10409166/enyo.rotator/debug.html
Aug 20 18:28:38 * GodGinrai wants LG to come out w/ webOS phones
Aug 20 18:29:05 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: nice
Aug 20 18:30:12 <dmanderson> Thanks, that was me showing a consulting agency how to get thier estimates down, and offer better perfoming widgets.
Aug 20 18:30:22 <dmanderson> Did that from a mock up in about 16 hours
Aug 20 18:30:42 <dmanderson> complete with tests https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10409166/enyo.rotator/debug.html
Aug 20 18:30:47 <dmanderson> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10409166/enyo.rotator/specs/application.js
Aug 20 18:30:56 <dmanderson> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10409166/enyo.rotator/specs/controllers.js
Aug 20 18:31:06 <dmanderson> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10409166/enyo.rotator/specs/views.js
Aug 20 18:31:11 <dmanderson> if anyone is interested ;-)
Aug 20 18:31:17 <dmanderson> just spam some Jasmine stuff in here
Aug 20 18:35:32 <GodGinrai> nice
Aug 20 18:35:37 <GodGinrai> Jasmine?
Aug 20 18:36:21 <GodGinrai> you guys aren't using the enyo unit test kinds anymore?
Aug 20 18:38:59 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: ugh, why are Progress, RotatorIndex, and PreviousIndex capitalized?
Aug 20 18:40:13 <dmanderson>  Enyo unit tests wasn’t ever really for outside the enyo framework, would like to see that increased.
Aug 20 18:40:31 <dmanderson> Good question :) The casing was done prior to me joining the team
Aug 20 18:41:02 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: so you didn't make the rotator?
Aug 20 18:41:26 <dmanderson> Oh that rotator I did yeah :)
Aug 20 18:42:04 <GodGinrai> lol, can't talk your way out of the bad naming on those variables :P
Aug 20 18:42:35 <SimpsonTP> dmanderson, you do have contact with TV guys I presume or is completely seperated ?
Aug 20 18:42:35 <dmanderson> HAHA true true :)
Aug 20 18:42:55 <dmanderson> Yup around TVs all day long
Aug 20 18:44:02 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: tell the WebOS guys that we want dev mode on our TVs
Aug 20 18:44:52 <GodGinrai> It's absolutely ridiculous that I have to upload my app to some website to get DRM added just so that it can be installed on my TV
Aug 20 18:45:01 <dmanderson> :-/
Aug 20 18:45:09 <SimpsonTP> dmanderson, okay any of those guys there during my talk ?
Aug 20 18:45:57 <dmanderson> I’m not sure, :) I’m fairly new around here, so I haven’t rubbed many elbows over there, but It’s always a possibility, and most of the korean team is focused on tv’s / other consumer devices
Aug 20 18:46:11 <SimpsonTP> ok
Aug 20 19:16:27 <SimpsonTP> is there actually a roadmap?
Aug 20 19:39:07 <GodGinrai> SimpsonTP: Roy__away mentioned at one point that he would make a blog post with the roadmap, but I don't think it ever materialized
Aug 20 19:43:37 <SimpsonTP> k
Aug 20 23:21:18 <SimpsonTP> re
Aug 21 02:10:50 <GodGinrai> Hey Roy__, SimpsonTP was in here earlier asking about if there was a roadmap for 2.5 and beyond.  I remember you commenting on the forum that you would make a blog post to that effect, but as far as I can tell, that has not been done.
Aug 21 02:11:03 <GodGinrai> Think you can shed some light on current plans?
Aug 21 02:14:36 <Roy__> GodGinrai: Yes, I still have plans to do that.  I just have been heads-down.
Aug 21 02:14:46 <Roy__> Or, I guess, just head down.
Aug 21 02:14:50 <Roy__> Since I only have one.
Aug 21 02:54:26 <GodGinrai> Roy__: alright, cool.  I'm looking forward to hearing about it. :)
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