**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Aug 24 02:59:59 2015 Aug 24 22:05:23 GodGinrai: no dmanderson huh? I'm thinking I might move on to another framework. I haven't been getting good vibes for the last year now. Aug 24 22:11:33 Zectbumo: It's always been fairly silent, honestly. I gotta say, tho'. Even after using other frameworks, I still don't like them as much as Enyo. Aug 24 22:12:15 Zectbumo: You could try contacting them through the Enyo mailing list. It seems that there were some Enyo devs responding there back in July Aug 24 22:12:39 GodGinrai: yeah, I agree. I seem to come back. I'm hoping now that responsive and mobile is more popular that new answers have come up. Aug 24 22:13:04 I want to try out Polymer for sure, I'm still deciding if I want to include Dart or not to get away from Javascript. Aug 24 22:13:20 Dart is pointless, don't do it Aug 24 22:13:35 as for Polymer, that's basically Enyo for shadow dom :P Aug 24 22:13:48 since it's made by former enyo devs who left Aug 24 22:14:06 I have the feeling Dart is a lost cause as well, but would give me some fresh air at least for one project Aug 24 22:14:17 GodGinrai: oh, that makes sense Aug 24 22:14:30 well cool, at least I'm on the right path Aug 24 22:14:36 Dart is just another lost pursuit of google that they will eventually abandon Aug 24 22:15:12 Basically, Google doesn't like Javascript. And instead of trying to fix Javascript, they decided to try to replace it on their own without input from any of the other browser vendors Aug 24 22:15:22 That went over like a lead baloon Aug 24 22:15:26 *balloon Aug 24 22:16:33 Have you looked at the Dart language specs? I studied them a bit and recommend ideas to shape the language. It was going well until I think they might have gone overboard. I haven't looked for about a year now. I'm kinda scared to Aug 24 22:17:14 but even a lead balloon will float Aug 24 22:17:28 You're better off diving into ES6 and Typescript Aug 24 22:19:14 hmm, but being a superscript language it means that they will not get rid of stupidities like '' == 0 (true) Aug 24 22:24:27 Yea Aug 24 22:24:48 but Dart being a language that won't be accepted by the community as a whole will be even worse off Aug 24 22:25:28 well, it just has to work long enough to do one project with it :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 25 02:59:58 2015