**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 07 02:59:57 2008
Nov 07 07:26:57 <SkyNETbbs> currently i seem to have some kind of kernel error when connecting bluetooth device now :(
Nov 07 08:23:37 <dema> g'morning
Nov 07 08:26:12 <RHarmsen> morning
Nov 07 08:41:46 <dema> any idea why I cannot see F2.0 smb share with windows share browsing ? I enabled WAN port on windows networking settings on GUI . executing \\ipfonera it's ok . Some problems in nmb broadcast ?
Nov 07 08:53:02 <RHarmsen> I have no idea
Nov 07 09:13:59 <dema> installing tcpdump to figure out
Nov 07 09:50:19 <pablo_bz> yellow
Nov 07 09:54:29 <iurgi> yellow too
Nov 07 09:54:49 <iurgi> dema: fonera 2.0 doesn't have nmbd
Nov 07 09:54:58 <iurgi> it's too big
Nov 07 09:55:10 <iurgi> takes too much memory/CPU
Nov 07 09:55:12 <dema> re iurgi I see
Nov 07 09:55:23 <iurgi> it's not very nice... but well
Nov 07 09:55:34 <iurgi> the best way to use it, imho
Nov 07 09:55:43 <iurgi> is to add a shared drive to your pc
Nov 07 09:56:09 <iurgi> \\fonera\usb-discs
Nov 07 09:56:13 <dema> OK . I'm facing also some strange issues with dnsmasq
Nov 07 09:56:30 <iurgi> so every time you connect to la fonera either on lan or wifi, the drive is mapped
Nov 07 09:56:43 <iurgi> btw, you don't need to use the IP of la fonera anymore
Nov 07 09:56:52 <iurgi> typing "fonera" is enough if you're connected to it
Nov 07 09:57:00 <dema> mmmmm lemme check right now
Nov 07 09:57:18 <dema> nope
Nov 07 09:57:20 <iurgi> ?
Nov 07 09:57:27 <iurgi> are you connected to it?
Nov 07 09:57:29 <iurgi> ping fonera
Nov 07 09:57:32 <iurgi> hmmm
Nov 07 09:57:33 <dema> only with \\ipaddress
Nov 07 09:57:43 <iurgi> hmmm
Nov 07 09:57:48 <iurgi> try: ping fonera
Nov 07 09:58:11 <dema> no host found
Nov 07 09:58:50 <dema> wait a minute this can be a firewall issue
Nov 07 09:59:02 <iurgi> hmmm
Nov 07 09:59:05 <iurgi> dema: works for me
Nov 07 09:59:19 <iurgi> the only reason I can think of is that you're not using the DNSthe fonera gives you
Nov 07 09:59:21 <dema> as i'm trying to reach the samba share through the wan interface
Nov 07 09:59:41 <iurgi> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Nov 07 09:59:43 <iurgi> ok
Nov 07 09:59:45 <dema> but in gui there's the option to enable the wan interface , hence I supposed to work
Nov 07 09:59:52 <iurgi> so you're not connected to the fonera
Nov 07 09:59:53 <iurgi> )
Nov 07 09:59:54 <iurgi> :)=
Nov 07 10:00:01 <iurgi> no no
Nov 07 10:00:09 <iurgi> this only works if the fonera is your dns server
Nov 07 10:00:20 <dema> ah ok :)
Nov 07 10:00:26 <iurgi> (or dhcp server, which is the same in this case)
Nov 07 10:02:14 <dema> OK tried with macbook via wifi @ myplace everithing is OK
Nov 07 10:02:48 <iurgi> ok
Nov 07 10:02:48 <iurgi> :D
Nov 07 10:02:58 <dema> I noticed at least two drops of dnsmasq . better some temporary dns resolution failure . I keep you updated :)
Nov 07 10:03:01 <iurgi> we will release BETA2 on Monday
Nov 07 10:03:12 <iurgi> hmmm
Nov 07 10:03:18 <iurgi> what do you mean with 2 drops?
Nov 07 10:03:33 <dema> shoutcast streaming on , so connection do not drop
Nov 07 10:03:57 <dema> but resolution names on new urls fail
Nov 07 10:04:15 <dema> happened 2 times this morning
Nov 07 10:04:22 <dema> only a 30 secs issue
Nov 07 10:04:38 <dema> looks like dnsmasq daemon die and respawn
Nov 07 10:09:47 <iurgi> hmmm
Nov 07 10:09:49 <iurgi> really strange
Nov 07 10:10:09 <iurgi> well, give more info if you happen to find out anything, please
Nov 07 10:29:52 <dema> checking the logs also of my tinydns , perhaps a failure of my lan daemons . Maybe something wrong with heartbeat and akamai which is filtered in my dns settings
Nov 07 10:35:06 <iurgi> http://blog.fonosfera.org/fonera20-firmware-beta2-is-coming/
Nov 07 10:36:12 <rwhitby> trac+svn works for me.
Nov 07 10:36:18 <dema> great
Nov 07 10:36:33 <rwhitby> iurgi: have you considered openssl client certificates for authentication to the trac and svn servers?
Nov 07 10:36:54 <rwhitby> (we do that in nslu2-linux.org, and also at my work)
Nov 07 10:38:08 <fonera> fonosfera(1): Fonera2.0 firmware BETA2 is coming!!.
Nov 07 10:38:09 <rwhitby> the deal is that you create a certification authority, and you issue an X509 client certificate from it for each of your developers.  When their svn client or browser accesses the site, it uses that certificate and the site automatically authenticates them - no need for passwords.
Nov 07 10:38:47 <iurgi> rwhitby, hmmm
Nov 07 10:38:54 <iurgi> it's an option, yes
Nov 07 10:39:05 <rwhitby> there is a two line patch for Trac which then uses the email address from the certificate to auto-login the developer to Trac.
Nov 07 10:39:37 <iurgi> sounds cool, could I have that patch?
Nov 07 10:39:45 <iurgi> maybe we won't have it for the inital set up
Nov 07 10:39:53 <iurgi> but we can make it a few weeks later
Nov 07 10:40:03 <iurgi> I don't have much sysadmin resources booked
Nov 07 10:40:49 <rwhitby> I can help you set it up if you like.  I've done four such setups so far ...
Nov 07 10:41:11 <rwhitby> actually, it's a one-liner patch to trac/web/api.py and a couple of lines in the apache conf
Nov 07 10:41:29 <rwhitby> remote_user = property(fget=lambda self: self.environ.get('SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_Email'),
Nov 07 10:41:49 <rwhitby> and
Nov 07 10:41:50 <rwhitby> SSLUserName SSL_CLIENT_S_DN_Email
Nov 07 10:41:56 <rwhitby> in the apache conf
Nov 07 10:43:47 <rwhitby> oh, the auto-login for Trac is two RewriteRules
Nov 07 10:47:12 <iurgi> rwhitby: sounds easy
Nov 07 10:47:13 <iurgi> :)
Nov 07 10:47:18 <iurgi> I lke the idea
Nov 07 10:47:44 <iurgi> I will talk to our sysadmins, see if they can do it or whether I can do it myself or use some of your help
Nov 07 10:48:39 <rwhitby> I can send you the apache conf files we use on trac.nslu2-linux.org if you like
Nov 07 10:53:00 <iurgi> yeah, that'd be cool
Nov 07 10:53:09 <iurgi> iurgi -at- fon.com
Nov 07 10:57:07 <rwhitby> iurgi: sent
Nov 07 10:57:32 <iurgi> thanks
Nov 07 11:04:32 <dema> iurgi, ok after deep inspaction is opendns having some troubles this morning :P Fonera is OK
Nov 07 11:05:29 <iurgi> cool
Nov 07 11:05:31 <iurgi> thanks dema :D
Nov 07 11:05:37 <iurgi> fonera 2.0 rocks!
Nov 07 11:05:37 <iurgi> :D
Nov 07 11:05:57 <RHarmsen> Monday Beta2... nice :D
Nov 07 11:06:27 <dema> BTW code will be 2.2.0.0 ?
Nov 07 11:06:55 * RHarmsen makes note *Sunda: Pack Fonera 2.0 to take it to Amsterdam for playing at the office
Nov 07 11:08:30 <iurgi> dema: it will still be 2.1.0.1
Nov 07 11:08:36 <iurgi> it's still the beta
Nov 07 11:08:48 <iurgi> we will switch to 2.2.0.1 with the stable release
Nov 07 11:10:35 <dema> iurgi, aknoledged :)
Nov 07 11:18:11 <dema> already thought about the welcome banner of remote shell ? If not we can open a contest in this channel
Nov 07 11:18:43 <iurgi> well
Nov 07 11:18:50 <iurgi> we had the evil teddy in bet1
Nov 07 11:18:53 <iurgi> beta1
Nov 07 11:18:58 <iurgi> beta2 is having something else
Nov 07 11:19:26 <dema> something funny :) like teddy bear
Nov 07 11:31:31 <iurgi> http://blog.fonosfera.org/ - Monday is gonna be a good day... beta2 is coming!
Nov 07 11:31:38 <iurgi> lol
Nov 07 11:33:53 <iurgi> anyone remembers this page from hong kong to order usb audio devices?
Nov 07 11:41:29 <dema> damn my people just came back today
Nov 07 11:41:33 <dema> from HK
Nov 07 11:44:16 <iurgi> did you forget to ask them something to bring you?
Nov 07 11:44:17 <iurgi> :)
Nov 07 11:57:47 <dema> iurgi, you know better than me since you are often there , but is not like before , apart buying some very cheap items which don't have market
Nov 07 11:58:04 <dema> in europe I mean
Nov 07 11:59:42 <blogic> iurgi: have you seen the new banner ? :)
Nov 07 11:59:52 <blogic> i like, how i choose them without asking :)
Nov 07 12:00:08 <blogic> its my personal note on the thing :)
Nov 07 12:00:18 <dema> blogic, spoiler plz :)
Nov 07 12:00:18 <blogic> "evil teddy" had its reason
Nov 07 12:00:26 <blogic> dema: no way
Nov 07 12:00:31 <dema> lol
Nov 07 12:00:35 <blogic> evil because the software was interesting
Nov 07 12:00:43 <blogic> teddy because the device is so cute
Nov 07 12:00:50 <blogic> now the new banner is ....
Nov 07 12:00:55 <blogic> ******************
Nov 07 12:00:56 <blogic> :)
Nov 07 12:01:00 * kazwo votes for the drunken bottle
Nov 07 12:01:10 <blogic> no
Nov 07 12:01:17 <blogic> its summin totally different
Nov 07 12:01:31 <dema> an animal ?
Nov 07 12:01:38 <kazwo> its god!
Nov 07 12:01:43 <blogic> both wrong
Nov 07 12:01:44 <kazwo> (..like)
Nov 07 12:01:44 <blogic> :)
Nov 07 12:01:52 <blogic> hehe
Nov 07 12:02:35 <dema> whjoa let's wait and see . Meet you this week end from time to time in this channel fellas . Have a nice WE :)
Nov 07 12:03:00 <blogic> ok
Nov 07 12:03:01 <blogic> cya
Nov 07 12:09:25 <iurgi> blogic: is the one I saw in the image yeserday?
Nov 07 12:09:55 <blogic> yes
Nov 07 12:09:56 <blogic> :)
Nov 07 12:12:29 <kazwo> blogic: do you think the huawei express card e800 works with fon2 and this adapter? http://www.delock.de/produkte/suche/Adapter_USB20_zu_Express_Card_34SLASH54mm_61575.html
Nov 07 12:12:35 * iurgi doesn't like it... but it's blogic's fingerprint
Nov 07 12:13:18 <blogic> kazwo: welll
Nov 07 12:13:19 <kazwo> if i plug it in now, i think he trys to mount the virtual cdrom
Nov 07 12:13:25 <blogic> you will probably get it working
Nov 07 12:13:31 <blogic> but not out of the box i guess
Nov 07 12:13:34 <blogic> oh wait
Nov 07 12:13:40 <blogic> pcmcia express ?
Nov 07 12:14:33 <kazwo> http://www.cellink.com.au/products/images/Voda_Huawei_e800.jpg
Nov 07 12:15:53 * RHarmsen makes another note: * Pack USB Wifi Dongle to test with Fonera 2 beta 2
Nov 07 12:19:56 <blogic> RHarmsen: i have been thinking aswell
Nov 07 12:20:09 <blogic> the usb ralink / zydas drivers on the fon to get better mesh
Nov 07 12:22:06 <Inouk> usb sticks with these chip are hard to find :(
Nov 07 12:22:53 <blogic> the mesh community has them
Nov 07 12:27:26 * rwhitby has been looking for such a stick for a while for the nslu2
Nov 07 12:28:53 <Inouk> It took me as well lots of research to get my RT2500 based one
Nov 07 12:29:14 <Inouk> then I forgot it somewere ...
Nov 07 12:29:15 <Inouk> :(
Nov 07 12:29:39 <blogic> heh
Nov 07 12:29:48 <blogic> i have the dwl-g120 b1 and c1
Nov 07 12:29:56 <blogic> g122
Nov 07 12:30:24 <rwhitby> anyone have access to the schematics for the fon2?  I need to know what C966 is for ...
Nov 07 12:30:47 <blogic> hmm
Nov 07 12:30:55 <blogic> where on the pcb is it ?
Nov 07 12:31:10 <rwhitby> it's the big one sticking up in the open space near the front
Nov 07 12:31:20 <blogic> lol
Nov 07 12:31:27 <blogic> you are adding summin in the case ?
Nov 07 12:31:32 <blogic> and need space ?
Nov 07 12:31:34 <rwhitby> 47uF
Nov 07 12:31:35 <blogic> let me check
Nov 07 12:31:43 <rwhitby> yep, wanna put a usb hub in that space
Nov 07 12:31:58 <blogic> ok
Nov 07 12:32:17 <rwhitby> also looking at unpopulated RU24, RU25, CU6, CU7 and assuming there's a second USB port there I can hook it up to.
Nov 07 12:32:53 <blogic> ok
Nov 07 12:32:58 <blogic> i have deleted it :)
Nov 07 12:33:07 <blogic> i will ask jordi to send me a fresh copy
Nov 07 12:33:28 <rwhitby> I can probably just buzz out the lines from the NEC usb chip.
Nov 07 12:34:03 <rwhitby> Since the 47uF is probably just for power supply filtering, I can extend it on some wires and place it elsewhere out of the way ...
Nov 07 12:34:26 <blogic> yeah
Nov 07 12:34:34 <blogic> underneath ?
Nov 07 12:34:39 <blogic> lay it flat
Nov 07 12:34:54 <iurgi> blogic: I have it
Nov 07 12:35:06 <blogic> ok
Nov 07 12:35:09 <blogic> send it to me please
Nov 07 12:35:12 <iurgi> let me find it
Nov 07 12:35:56 <rwhitby> not quite enough space underneath
Nov 07 12:36:14 <rwhitby> unless I remove some plastic from the bottom of the case ...
Nov 07 12:37:14 <rwhitby> what's the best fon shop to order from for shipping to Australia - I need a second device if I'm going to start hardware hacking on the first ...
Nov 07 12:37:34 <iurgi> rwhitby: let me find out
Nov 07 12:40:22 <rwhitby> heh - I just realised I could stand the hub sideways and have four USB sockets on the top of the device :-)
Nov 07 12:41:06 <blogic> lol
Nov 07 12:41:27 <rwhitby> good for usb wifi sticks :-)
Nov 07 12:41:36 <rwhitby> bluetooth too ...
Nov 07 12:44:42 <RHarmsen> rwhitby: Are you going to put up a guide or something so people can do it themself
Nov 07 12:45:08 <blogic> RHarmsen: you are talking to the nslu man
Nov 07 12:45:11 <blogic> of course he is
Nov 07 12:45:12 <blogic> :)
Nov 07 12:45:38 <rwhitby> heh
Nov 07 12:46:25 <rwhitby> RHarmsen: http://www.rwhitby.net/projects/wrt54gs is some of my early work :-)
Nov 07 12:47:09 <rwhitby> then http://www.rwhitby.net/projects/nslu2
Nov 07 12:47:55 <rwhitby> and http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/34pin_universal_connector/NSLU2_34_way_header_8 too :-)
Nov 07 12:48:04 <RHarmsen> pfff.  I still need to work :P
Nov 07 12:48:32 <rwhitby> (http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddAThirtyFourPinUniversalConnector is a better link for that last one)
Nov 07 12:49:27 <RHarmsen> the first one is nice... serial ports on the fonera
Nov 07 12:49:42 <RHarmsen> on the WRT I mean
Nov 07 12:49:46 <RHarmsen> stupud me
Nov 07 12:50:15 * iurgi can't find the schematics
Nov 07 12:50:16 <iurgi> :(
Nov 07 12:50:32 * RHarmsen makes another note: * Pack CD-Aduio cabel, to perform reflash of bricked FonClassic
Nov 07 12:50:57 <pablo_bz> cd audio cable???
Nov 07 12:51:05 <rwhitby> serial port
Nov 07 12:51:10 <pablo_bz> aaah
Nov 07 12:51:19 <rwhitby> just right for the 4 pin heard
Nov 07 12:51:21 <rwhitby> header
Nov 07 12:51:37 <RHarmsen> pablo_bz: Well... there was an guide about using the three wires to connect two FonClassics together with it
Nov 07 12:51:54 <RHarmsen> But this week I hope to have some time for this kind of stuff
Nov 07 12:52:01 <RHarmsen> or actually... next week
Nov 07 12:52:08 <rwhitby> you could do the same with the fon2, and have one reflash the other over serial
Nov 07 12:52:24 <rwhitby> SkyNETbbs should like that - machines repairing machines
Nov 07 12:52:31 <RHarmsen> lol
Nov 07 12:52:39 <iurgi> LOL
Nov 07 12:52:49 <RHarmsen> as long as they don't add "hardware" features to each other
Nov 07 12:53:02 <iurgi> hahaha
Nov 07 12:54:30 <RHarmsen> rwhitby: are those AD232DBH somewhere available prebuild?  I mean... so I can just plugin a cable on the fonera and have a serial connector
Nov 07 12:54:44 <rwhitby> RHarmsen: yep
Nov 07 12:55:17 <rwhitby> http://www.compsys1.com/workbench/On_top_of_the_Bench/Max233_Adapter/max233_adapter.html
Nov 07 12:55:17 <RHarmsen> are you able to point me to an ebay shop or something that has them?
Nov 07 12:57:00 <rwhitby> A232DBH3v on http://www.compsys1.com/workbench/BenchOrders/bench_orders.html#ad232order
Nov 07 12:57:07 <RHarmsen> I noticed
Nov 07 12:57:47 <rwhitby> he shipped to Australia for very little postage
Nov 07 12:58:02 <RHarmsen> I guess I stay with my audio cable thingy for now...
Nov 07 12:58:19 <RHarmsen> +/- 20 euro's is a little much for a "simple
Nov 07 12:58:21 <RHarmsen> " cable
Nov 07 12:59:21 <rwhitby> these days I use mobile phone data cables from throw-out bins - if they have a pl2303 in them you're set.
Nov 07 13:00:01 <rwhitby> quite a few are listed on this page: http://www.nslu2-linux.org/wiki/HowTo/AddASerialPort
Nov 07 13:00:06 <rwhitby> (scroll down a bit)
Nov 07 13:01:36 <RHarmsen> hm... got to look for an Siemens cable then ;)
Nov 07 13:01:52 * RHarmsen realy needs to go back to work/writing
Nov 07 14:09:29 <kazwo> falsify, lie and cheat
Nov 07 14:13:03 <Inouk> RHarmsen, what do you need a serial cable for?
Nov 07 14:27:06 <RHarmsen> Inouk: Reflash/fix my broken fonera classic... but will use a simple cable between two classics
Nov 07 14:27:13 * RHarmsen back to work... busy busy bussy
Nov 07 14:29:08 <Inouk> RHarmsen, you can't acess redboot?
Nov 07 15:12:23 <voorstad> @"firmware beta 2 is coming" mmmmm, how long does it take to ship my new router? I ordered my Fonero2.0 a few days ago :-\
Nov 07 15:33:09 <RHarmsen> Inouk: Nope..
Nov 07 16:32:47 <garret88> hello to all
Nov 07 16:35:36 <iurgi> hi
Nov 07 16:36:41 <garret88> i want to put out a question: it's plausible ask to the fonera 2.0 to run applications like amule or transmission? I mean, the processor of the fonera 2.0 is the same of previous version
Nov 07 16:37:35 <blogic> garret88: we will release a torrent client very soon as a plugin
Nov 07 16:38:24 <iurgi> the performance won't be as good as on your laptop, for sure
Nov 07 16:38:34 <iurgi> but we've got quite good download rates ;)
Nov 07 16:38:59 <garret88> blogic: but why create a new plugin when there are the good transmission or deluge?
Nov 07 16:39:25 <iurgi> garret88: plugin doesn't mean "write ana pplication from zero"
Nov 07 16:39:32 <blogic> indeed
Nov 07 16:39:51 <iurgi> but "adapt something that already works, to run in an embedded device and make a usable web interface for it" ;)
Nov 07 16:40:00 <garret88> and for ed2k network you see more difficult an application for this network?
Nov 07 16:40:49 <iurgi> hmmm
Nov 07 16:40:52 <iurgi> not necessarily
Nov 07 16:41:55 <garret88> for torrent the plugin it will have also the normal features that in general you can find in clients, like obfuscation ,dht, web interface, ... ?
Nov 07 16:42:09 <blogic> no web interface
Nov 07 16:42:10 <iurgi> ehr...
Nov 07 16:42:16 <blogic> you have to control it via telnet
Nov 07 16:42:19 <blogic> XD
Nov 07 16:42:20 <iurgi> 1) I have no clue what all that stuff is
Nov 07 16:43:03 <iurgi> 2) maybe... if someone implements them
Nov 07 16:43:13 <iurgi> but quite unlikely
Nov 07 16:43:55 <garret88> when do you think the final fonera will be released? is there a kind of release schedule?
Nov 07 16:44:09 <iurgi> hmmm
Nov 07 16:44:19 <iurgi> just so that SkyNETbbs1 is happy...
Nov 07 16:44:21 <iurgi> SOON!
Nov 07 16:44:23 <iurgi> lol
Nov 07 16:44:46 <garret88> lool soosn when?
Nov 07 16:44:47 <alxhh_> moin
Nov 07 16:44:55 <iurgi> moin moin
Nov 07 16:45:18 <iurgi> garret88, you'd get along pretty well with SkyNETbb1
Nov 07 16:46:14 <iurgi> garret88: soon means
Nov 07 16:46:50 <iurgi> soon enough, but I'm not gonna say any dates until I'm sure of it because then lots of people I won't mention the names of would complain if we don't have it ready by hat date
Nov 07 16:46:59 <iurgi> so, as soon as I know whne, I will give a date
Nov 07 16:47:13 <iurgi> till then, think that soon is sooner than late, which is later
Nov 07 16:47:13 <iurgi> lol
Nov 07 16:49:45 <garret88> but with the new fonera i can link a usb hub and then for example add to this hub a usb disk and a webcam?
Nov 07 16:53:12 <iurgi> yes
Nov 07 16:53:56 <iurgi> and share the usb disc on the network with samba
Nov 07 16:54:05 <garret88> wow it's fantastic
Nov 07 16:54:08 <iurgi> or set it up to be an ftp server
Nov 07 16:54:17 <iurgi> indeed ;)
Nov 07 16:54:21 <garret88> so the it's like to have more than a usb port
Nov 07 16:54:23 <iurgi> it's thhe new fon ;)
Nov 07 16:55:08 <iurgi> well, you get the most of the fonera if you connnect a USB 2.0 HUB to it
Nov 07 17:17:14 <alxhh_> hmmm
Nov 07 17:17:16 <alxhh_> ping svn.fonosfera.org
Nov 07 17:17:16 <alxhh_> ping: cannot resolve svn.fonosfera.org: Unknown host
Nov 07 17:17:45 <alxhh_> actually, i really don't care about beta relaease dates, as long there is a subversion somewhere
Nov 07 17:18:30 <alxhh_> and, we do have a bunch of engineers here, waitin
Nov 07 17:18:33 <alxhh_> ups
Nov 07 17:18:43 <alxhh_> to to things with the devices
Nov 07 17:20:13 <iurgi> well
Nov 07 17:20:26 <iurgi> I think the release of the beta is important
Nov 07 17:20:37 <iurgi> since it changes lots of the internal stuff of the fonera
Nov 07 17:20:56 <iurgi> to work on the fonera in a usable lasting way, you need it
Nov 07 17:21:19 <iurgi> so... if you're willing to develop something, it should be good news :D
Nov 07 17:23:05 <alxhh_> so, after the beta release, there will be a subversion server with public read access?
Nov 07 17:23:37 <iurgi> soon after, yes
Nov 07 17:23:56 <iurgi> still alxhh, for 'public read access' you don't need an svn
Nov 07 17:24:03 <iurgi> the sourcecode should be enough
Nov 07 17:24:23 <iurgi> reading from svn or untarring the sources make no difference
Nov 07 17:24:30 <iurgi> unless someone updates the svn
Nov 07 17:24:34 <iurgi> :)
Nov 07 17:25:17 <iurgi> so, there will be a public readable svn + authenticated for developers svn read-write
Nov 07 17:26:37 <alxhh_> yes and no, depending on perspective, as from the point of building the system, there is no big difference between svn and tarball
Nov 07 17:27:04 <alxhh_> as soon it comes to working on it, tracking changes, making diffs, etc, it is a big difference
Nov 07 17:27:24 <iurgi> with read access only?
Nov 07 17:27:30 <iurgi> ah well
Nov 07 17:27:32 <alxhh_> so, we are looking forward to see the subversion
Nov 07 17:27:32 <iurgi> you're right
Nov 07 17:27:41 <iurgi> completely right
Nov 07 17:27:52 <iurgi> you will have it :D
Nov 07 17:27:57 <alxhh_> :)
Nov 07 17:28:50 <iurgi> st
Nov 07 17:29:06 <iurgi> alxhh, anyway, beta2 is gonna be cool, also for the development
Nov 07 17:29:18 <iurgi> will make writing the interface for the plugins easier
Nov 07 17:29:35 <iurgi> luci is way easier and powerful than webif/haserl
Nov 07 17:29:58 <alxhh_> iurgi: imagine that, we developed uci here ;)
Nov 07 17:30:07 <iurgi> :)
Nov 07 17:32:27 * iurgi is happy with luci
Nov 07 17:33:01 <alx-fokus> yes, the guys from freifunk halle and leipzig did a great work
Nov 07 17:33:47 <iurgi> indeed
Nov 07 17:34:12 <alx-fokus> anyway, now back to work ;)
Nov 07 17:35:00 <iurgi> now?
Nov 07 17:35:23 <alx-fokus> another 2 hours and then weekend
Nov 07 17:35:29 <iurgi> 2h!
Nov 07 17:35:31 <iurgi> woooooops
Nov 07 17:35:37 <iurgi> I'm off in 30min today
Nov 07 17:35:57 <alx-fokus> back to playing with arduino, the fonera and the LCD
Nov 07 17:35:58 <iurgi> if I'm able to flash this fonera... it's driving me crazy now
Nov 07 17:36:12 <iurgi> arduino?
Nov 07 17:36:14 <alx-fokus> i have no fixed workhours
Nov 07 17:36:22 <iurgi> me neither
Nov 07 17:36:31 <alx-fokus> http://blogs.k-ita.de/~alx/?p=64
Nov 07 17:36:34 <iurgi> but I have this feeling like I should leave
Nov 07 17:36:35 <iurgi> lol
Nov 07 17:36:56 <alx-fokus> arduino is an atmega 169 based microcontrollerboard
Nov 07 17:38:15 <iurgi> cool
Nov 07 17:55:27 * iurgi is desperate
Nov 07 17:55:34 <iurgi> this f***d up fonera...
Nov 07 18:04:18 <alx-fokus> iurgi: you bricked your fonera?
Nov 07 18:53:34 <kazwo> m<  new car http://www.autoscout24.de/Details.aspx?id=vn21jqiupzvt
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