**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 11 02:59:57 2008 Nov 11 09:06:08 school .... Nov 11 09:39:13 Ok now I have some spare time to reflash . Back here in 20 minutes . Suggestions on method to use ? mtd -write , redboot or web gui ? Nov 11 09:40:02 i used the web gui Nov 11 09:43:56 added the new release on the wiki Nov 11 09:49:06 OK I'll go for it Nov 11 09:50:15 * RHarmsen hopes to have some time to flash his Fonera 2 with beta 2 Nov 11 09:50:23 * RHarmsen can't wait to get home Nov 11 09:53:47 the web interface has a great look & feel but the logout text is a little bit to close to the "where i am" header Nov 11 09:55:38 kazwo: yes Nov 11 09:55:47 i am not a css man, and could not fix it last minute Nov 11 09:55:58 ok started web gui flashing process Nov 11 09:55:58 i did not want to delay the release because of it Nov 11 09:55:59 :) Nov 11 09:56:03 dema: cool Nov 11 09:58:14 I always think that flashing over wlan is not a good idea , but fonera is on onother room :) And first time with mtd write went perfectly so .... Nov 11 09:58:35 did someone asked to get the beta2 hosted on fon.com? Nov 11 09:58:45 Inouk: no idea Nov 11 09:58:50 Inouk: i am only the developer Nov 11 09:58:51 :) Nov 11 09:59:12 blogic, :) Nov 11 09:59:44 iurgi, did you ask for it to be hosted on fon.com? Nov 11 10:00:35 cuze then I wana chage the download link on the wiki Nov 11 10:03:50 ETA for flashing is about 20 min isn't it ? Nov 11 10:04:43 yes Nov 11 10:04:57 K :) Nov 11 10:05:54 * dema hopes that a faster rom will be put in mass productioon Nov 11 10:05:55 flashing the fon over the web interface dont work! Nov 11 10:06:12 @wlan Nov 11 10:07:31 kazwo, I will let you know shortly . In every case of bad flash I think I might be able to recover with redboot Nov 11 10:07:56 yeah Nov 11 10:08:00 you cannot brick the devices Nov 11 10:08:06 redboot will always work Nov 11 10:09:33 i flashed the beta1 over webinterface and the fonera gets stucked in a reboot loop Nov 11 10:09:59 ? Nov 11 10:10:06 hmm Nov 11 10:10:14 *connected over wlan Nov 11 10:10:15 in that case the image is corrupted durng flash Nov 11 10:10:23 you have a serial console ? Nov 11 10:10:29 i mean a serial cable ? Nov 11 10:10:41 Inouk: ? wanna help ? Nov 11 10:11:49 kazwo, redboot is a really simple procedure Nov 11 10:11:52 this was 1,5 weeks before Nov 11 10:12:01 follow wiki instruction Nov 11 10:12:02 s Nov 11 10:13:27 is there any news/estimate time on when the SVN will be made publicly available? Nov 11 10:14:03 RHarmsen: as soon as the GPL ball is in madrid it'll be imported Nov 11 10:14:14 i am on a slow inet line, hence upload is taking some time Nov 11 10:14:25 and it abortes during the night, so i had to restart Nov 11 10:16:40 ok, so depends on your upload rate ;) so might be within a day or so :) Nov 11 10:17:51 yes Nov 11 10:18:26 * dema goes to the other room to see if leds are still blinking . time elapsed 22 minutes Nov 11 10:18:38 hehe Nov 11 10:20:33 all seems to be Ok wlan signal not yet dropped . Still waiting . No red-orange change in power led . But I'm colorblind and I cannot tell Nov 11 10:21:54 wlan drop ..... Nov 11 10:22:21 waiting for myplace ssid show on the stumbler Nov 11 10:24:49 tada ! Nov 11 10:25:04 done it . Thanks again to blogic :) Nov 11 10:25:58 sure Nov 11 10:29:21 wan port over wlan 9.8 mb/s Nov 11 10:31:00 dema: :) Nov 11 10:31:11 dema: really ? Nov 11 10:31:12 :) Nov 11 10:32:39 I downloaded from my webserver at wan link 100 mb/s . From wired ethernet speed is 5.35 Megabyte/s from fonera2.0 via Wlan is 1.1 Megabyte/s Nov 11 10:45:05 blogic, do you think that I could use luci for a non-embedded firewall management ? Nov 11 10:45:38 I have a project for rent office management . My task is add user , and switch of and on vlans at given time Nov 11 10:45:51 it could fit the purpose ? Nov 11 10:47:49 dema: yes, very much Nov 11 10:47:58 especially as there is a luci SDK Nov 11 10:48:04 i do all the developement on my laptop Nov 11 10:48:10 and then when ready copy it to the fonera Nov 11 10:48:11 :) Nov 11 10:48:17 perfect ! Nov 11 10:48:26 dema: we will be binging out an advanced firewall plugin eventually Nov 11 10:48:39 the openwrt firewall is rather powerfull Nov 11 10:48:44 just need to make a nice gui Nov 11 10:48:51 but a bit messy right now Nov 11 10:48:54 yes :D Nov 11 10:49:00 ? Nov 11 10:49:11 to understand Nov 11 10:49:14 not very intuitive Nov 11 10:49:28 ah ok Nov 11 10:49:30 yes Nov 11 10:50:06 in my case I need only n usernames (one per rented office) and a scheduler to turn off the assigned vlan when the rent time expires Nov 11 10:50:31 easy I think Nov 11 10:50:55 yes Nov 11 10:50:58 very easy Nov 11 10:51:13 you can run a cron in the background at 1 minute intervals Nov 11 10:51:26 and set in luci/uci what time something happens or not Nov 11 10:51:30 * blogic loves luci Nov 11 10:52:13 * dema goes idle see you this afternoon Nov 11 10:54:36 cya Nov 11 10:59:28 why use a cron every 1 minute? Nov 11 10:59:40 you can set a cron to run at a certain time/date isn't it? Nov 11 10:59:59 so you can just let it run when an office is done!? Nov 11 11:00:07 will save some cpu usage Nov 11 11:01:02 ah yes :) Nov 11 11:07:57 kazwo, how this redboot flash is going? Nov 11 11:12:15 blogic: are you on? Nov 11 11:12:27 yes Nov 11 11:12:40 garret88: yes Nov 11 11:12:52 blogic: i found this video on youtube of martin -> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm0_43FuKRM Nov 11 11:13:14 but it was addes on 2 may 2007 Nov 11 11:13:20 *added Nov 11 11:13:53 yes Nov 11 11:14:23 but it is only a kind of mockup ? Nov 11 11:14:50 dunno Nov 11 11:16:20 sorry for my bad english but what means "dunno" :P ? Nov 11 11:17:01 iam sorry, you have missunderstood me earlier. flashing over the web with wlan goes wrong 1,5 weaks ago. i reflashed it with a serial cable and redboot. flashing the new beta2 over the webinterface with cable works fine Nov 11 11:18:34 ah ok Nov 11 11:18:35 cool Nov 11 11:43:56 garret88: it's slang for "I don't know" Nov 11 11:44:10 ok thanks rwhitby Nov 11 11:44:17 not to be confused with 'dunny' Nov 11 11:44:26 (which is australian slang for toilet) Nov 11 11:44:47 kazwo: there's no difference in doing it over wifi or cable Nov 11 11:45:13 before starting the flash, the full image is uploaded to the fonera and verified. The flashing process wil never start until the image is checked Nov 11 11:45:43 another important question i have: is it sure that the hardware of fonera 2.0 developers version it will be different then the final? i want a reassurance also by iurgi and blogic Nov 11 11:46:00 *wont be different i mean, sorry Nov 11 11:46:35 garret888: shouldn't be different Nov 11 11:46:48 there's only one known issue that *MIGHT* be hardware related Nov 11 11:46:48 lol shouldn't :| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Nov 11 11:48:39 2008 Nov 11 11:48:44 i stop for now Nov 11 11:50:11 or a powered usb hub.... Nov 11 11:50:30 yes Nov 11 11:51:39 no Nov 11 11:51:48 power usb hub + hard drive won't always work Nov 11 11:51:53 if you have more devices in the have Nov 11 11:51:54 ah ok Nov 11 11:51:56 didn't work for me Nov 11 11:55:00 and did your drive have a twin USB cable? Nov 11 11:55:12 kazwo, ha OK Nov 11 11:55:17 voorstad: that is not the issue Nov 11 11:55:30 it is the total power that matters Nov 11 11:55:53 kazwo, why did you flash from redboot with serial cable? Nov 11 11:56:04 why not use ethernet I mean? Nov 11 11:56:12 ok, but in my experience some 2,5" drives run with a single USB cable, some don't. Nov 11 11:56:40 iurgi, in that case isn't it an issue of your USB hub not supplying enough power for all the devices plug Nov 11 11:56:41 ? Nov 11 11:57:04 I can't tell what the real issue is Nov 11 11:57:09 I'm just giving the facts Nov 11 11:57:33 any hard discs, with spinnning discs, should be connected with an individual powersupply Nov 11 11:57:51 I haven't done many tests though Nov 11 11:58:02 if someone proves otherwise, I'll be happy to knw Nov 11 11:58:04 know Nov 11 11:59:03 iurgi: that is for 3,5" drives i guess Nov 11 11:59:32 iurgi, have a look at how much W/A your usb hub supply I'll compare with mine Nov 11 12:00:18 voorstad, I don't know any 3,5" that don't come with external Nov 11 12:02:26 Inouk: exactly. But I dont' know of any 2,5" that comes WITH power supply Nov 11 12:02:44 Inouk: because the cable is anyway connected :) Nov 11 12:08:16 infact 2,5" doens't need power supply Nov 11 12:08:51 garret888 all need power supply Nov 11 12:08:56 otherwise they don't spin Nov 11 12:09:14 the different is whether there's an external power supply or the USB data cable is used for it ;) Nov 11 12:09:18 i mean that iurgi, they use the usb port Nov 11 12:09:34 but, the problem is not that the fonera is not able to supply this power Nov 11 12:09:44 please, all understand this and stop discussing Nov 11 12:09:58 there's a problem with the electronics and it doesn't wrok Nov 11 12:10:00 work Nov 11 12:10:13 it's not a problem with the AMOUNT the fonera supplies, but HOW it supplies it Nov 11 12:10:36 so, I woudl recommend ALL to use pwered haard discs or solid state discs Nov 11 12:10:50 I discourage to use non powered hard discs even if they exist Nov 11 12:15:16 iurgi: you are clear Nov 11 12:18:13 i have a hard drive plugged without external supply to the hub and it has always work seamlessly Nov 11 12:18:24 lool Nov 11 12:18:45 perhaps is more a matter of the hard drive itself, managing current changes Nov 11 12:19:32 maybe Nov 11 12:19:41 as i said: this was my experience Nov 11 12:19:43 or even the powered hub itself Nov 11 12:19:46 and I want people to be aware Nov 11 12:19:52 so they don't complain about it Nov 11 12:19:58 if it works for others, great! Nov 11 12:19:58 :D Nov 11 12:26:11 it IS a firewall issue Nov 11 12:26:12 : Nov 11 12:26:58 so an usb hard drive not working is a firewall issue ? Nov 11 12:28:14 lol Nov 11 12:28:18 wrong channel Nov 11 12:39:45 changing from wifi to ip static i've got same errors Nov 11 12:40:00 Error in option "fon.wan.key1" (fon.wan.key1): Nov 11 12:40:00 In dependency check for option "fon.wan.key1": Nov 11 12:40:00 Dependency (auth=wep) failed: Nov 11 12:40:00 Error in option "fon.wan.auth" (fon.wan.auth): Nov 11 12:40:00 Value "" of option "fon.wan.auth" is not defined in enum { "mixed", "open", "wep", "wpa", "wpa2" }Error in option "fon.wan.psk" (fon.wan.psk): Nov 11 12:40:02 In dependency check for option "fon.wan.psk": Nov 11 12:40:04 Dependency (auth=wpa) failed: Nov 11 12:40:06 Error in option "fon.wan.auth" (fon.wan.auth): Nov 11 12:40:08 Value "" of option "fon.wan.auth" is not defined in enum { "mixed", "open", "wep", "wpa", "wpa2" } Nov 11 12:40:10 Dependency (auth=wpa2) failed: Nov 11 12:40:12 Error in option "fon.wan.auth" (fon.wan.auth): Nov 11 12:40:14 Value "" of option "fon.wan.auth" is not defined in enum { "mixed", "open", "wep", "wpa", "wpa2" } Nov 11 12:40:16 Dependency (auth=mixed) failed: Nov 11 12:40:18 Error in option "fon.wan.auth" (fon.wan.auth): Nov 11 12:40:20 Value "" of option "fon.wan.auth" is not defined in enum { "mixed", "open", "wep", "wpa", "wpa2" } Nov 11 12:40:23 ops sorry for spam :) Nov 11 12:45:24 moin Nov 11 12:45:42 so, the source is still not there? Nov 11 12:47:15 monossido: please, use pastebin.com Nov 11 12:47:20 alx-fokus: no Nov 11 12:47:21 :( Nov 11 12:47:38 so, you did not listen and did not use bittorrent? ;) Nov 11 12:47:58 alx-fokus: I never used bit torrent, dunno how to use it Nov 11 12:48:06 additionaly I don't even have the sources with me Nov 11 12:48:06 ups Nov 11 12:48:09 blogic has them Nov 11 12:48:13 he has to prepare them Nov 11 12:48:18 had to Nov 11 12:48:26 now he has to uload them to fon Nov 11 12:48:37 because the overnight upload failed Nov 11 12:49:05 *shrug* Nov 11 12:49:11 shit happens Nov 11 12:49:12 http://pastebin.com/m7ff2c160 Nov 11 12:50:01 monossido: i'll check it out later Nov 11 12:50:09 the evil thing when doing project management in public, ever mistake is visible Nov 11 12:50:15 k tnx Nov 11 12:50:25 alx-fokus: thx vor the zaunpfahle Nov 11 12:50:39 alx-fokus: we're happy with that Nov 11 12:50:39 :D Nov 11 12:50:58 * alx-fokus has other work for today, fon for thursday Nov 11 12:51:06 blogic: gerne Nov 11 12:51:29 blogic: btw, lftp can resume uploads *duck* Nov 11 12:51:30 win 32 Nov 11 12:56:56 blogic, publish the source Nov 11 12:57:16 I sent a Fonera20 to the GPL violation group Nov 11 12:57:31 he has your address :p Nov 11 12:58:35 lol Nov 11 12:59:49 i a working on it Nov 11 13:01:34 hihi was just teasing you Nov 11 13:02:08 monossido: I dunno where the bug comes from, but check /etc/config/fon Nov 11 13:02:32 see if the WAN configuration section has still wifi parameters when "type" says static Nov 11 13:02:43 if so, removing them by hand should do it Nov 11 13:03:03 we will fix this in the future, the wan-wifi mode was not supposed to be working in beta2 Nov 11 13:18:21 wan-wifi mode works...the fonera is in internet! Nov 11 13:18:42 but in wan there isn't type=static Nov 11 13:19:40 i must type mode=static? Nov 11 13:22:21 ok works thanks Nov 11 13:49:52 * RHarmsen just got a notice his USB 2.0 soundcard has arrived Nov 11 13:50:17 way faster than those guys from hongkong saied Nov 11 13:52:37 <[TEC]> RHarmsen : I really like to know if you have any luck with your soundcard. My HK device from ebay didn't work. Nov 11 13:56:07 [TEC]: To bad I will only be home saterday (most easly), so I need to wait some time to try it out Nov 11 14:08:12 is there some news about bridge between wan and wlan? Nov 11 14:23:24 monossido: yes Nov 11 14:33:39 in this firmware?! Nov 11 14:33:55 no Nov 11 14:35:14 next firmware? :P Nov 11 14:36:11 dunno Nov 11 14:36:29 there are many bugs that need fixing Nov 11 14:38:09 i need it and i hope that will be included in the next release ;) Nov 11 14:38:42 Hi guys! Nov 11 14:38:49 I've got the following problem: I wanted to flash my Fon2.0 with the new firmware but the page "couldn't be found" according to Firefox. Nov 11 14:38:53 Now my Fon is blinking orange with the Wireless and Power leds. How bad is that? Did I kill the fon or do I just need to reconnect the power? Nov 11 14:38:59 I waited already like 15 minutes but its just one continious patern of blinking. Nov 11 14:41:04 15min? Nov 11 14:41:06 hmmm Nov 11 14:41:13 can you explain again what you did, please? Nov 11 14:41:16 yeah, its not really random blinking... Nov 11 14:41:20 and don't turn it off, please Nov 11 14:41:30 Ok, I logged in, wanted to upload the firmware Nov 11 14:41:41 then I got a blank page for VERY long, 25+ mins Nov 11 14:41:48 No blinking orange Nov 11 14:41:49 nothing Nov 11 14:41:57 no inet connection Nov 11 14:41:59 Then I reopened the admin Nov 11 14:42:04 no problems, just could enter it Nov 11 14:42:12 I went to the firmware upgrade (again) Nov 11 14:42:26 did the same (selected the right file and started upgrading) Nov 11 14:42:38 then firefox said "Page can't be found" Nov 11 14:42:39 ok Nov 11 14:42:44 then inet was gone xD Nov 11 14:42:48 that's what happened =P Nov 11 14:42:49 hmmm Nov 11 14:42:51 weird Nov 11 14:42:54 and now it looks dead... Nov 11 14:42:58 can you scan for wireless networks Nov 11 14:43:03 like, wireless and power leds blinking orange Nov 11 14:43:09 is there one saying: "FON_ATTENTION_PLEASE_CONNECT" Nov 11 14:43:12 or similar? Nov 11 14:43:28 SSID? Nov 11 14:43:34 yes Nov 11 14:43:39 lets have a look =) Nov 11 14:43:44 ok Nov 11 14:43:58 *might disconnect from mIRC* Nov 11 14:44:13 sure Nov 11 14:44:20 (although you shouldn't ;D) Nov 11 14:44:25 hehe Nov 11 14:44:38 yes Nov 11 14:44:39 its there Nov 11 14:44:45 FON_ATTENTION_PLEASE_CONNECT Nov 11 14:44:50 ok Nov 11 14:44:53 I guess I need to connnect? xD Nov 11 14:44:58 no Nov 11 14:44:58 :D Nov 11 14:45:01 xD Nov 11 14:45:08 this means the firmware didn't flash correctly Nov 11 14:45:20 I don't know why the level of success is so low using the web interface Nov 11 14:45:20 ah, and that means? Nov 11 14:45:21 darn Nov 11 14:45:26 o Nov 11 14:45:29 that means you need to restore it Nov 11 14:45:35 im not the only one with this problem? Nov 11 14:45:41 there's only one way Nov 11 14:45:43 no, you're not Nov 11 14:45:47 feel happy ;) Nov 11 14:45:51 jay xD Nov 11 14:45:56 you need to use redboot Nov 11 14:46:02 there's a guide somewhere in the wiki Nov 11 14:46:07 probably inouk can point you there Nov 11 14:46:12 aah shit, is that difficult xD? Nov 11 14:46:17 erm Nov 11 14:46:24 why not flash over the failsafe image ? Nov 11 14:46:48 blogic: it doesn't work Nov 11 14:47:05 the failsafe image in the foneras 2.0 beta is the one of the fonera+ Nov 11 14:47:12 so it needs to be signed with the fonera+ image Nov 11 14:47:18 hmm, ok, and what happens if I get the power disconnected? not that i'm planning to do so but just in case? Nov 11 14:47:58 nothing worse than you have now Nov 11 14:48:17 you can *always* restore the fimrmware suing redboot Nov 11 14:48:29 unless you fuck up redboot, which is not easy Nov 11 14:48:30 :) Nov 11 14:49:45 ok Nov 11 14:49:50 well, for me everything is possible xD Nov 11 14:50:05 any hints to get the 2.2 firmware AFTER I restored it? Nov 11 14:50:22 should the web interface work or..? Nov 11 14:51:52 you can 'restore' it with the beta2 directly Nov 11 14:51:57 why should you use the beta1? Nov 11 14:52:06 btw, beta2 is still 2.1.0 Nov 11 14:52:12 ah ok Nov 11 14:52:31 well I mean, after I restored it Nov 11 14:52:46 does it crash again with the web interface or can I just do that again? Nov 11 14:53:04 and for the record, I tried to flash with the wireless channel, maby thats the problem? Nov 11 14:55:35 Merlin: afaik, it shouldn't be a problem... Nov 11 14:56:04 so you mean whether you can use web interface to upgrade from beta2 (current) to 2.2 (final)? Nov 11 14:56:08 Merlin, http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/La_Fonera_2.0#Redboot_interface Nov 11 14:56:09 yes, you should be able Nov 11 14:56:19 all instruction are therer Nov 11 14:56:33 ok thanks =) Nov 11 14:56:50 Marlin, use the beta2 - SYLVESTER image!! Nov 11 14:56:57 don't waste time ;) Nov 11 14:57:33 "remark : sudo is necessary in eg Ubuntu, Centos, ... where by default you are NOT a root user unless you use su" Nov 11 14:57:45 o_O who put that in the wiki? Nov 11 14:58:08 Merlin, what OS do you use? Nov 11 14:58:37 you mean like on my pc? > Windows Vista Nov 11 15:06:32 anyways, i'll give it a try, cya in a sec ;) Nov 11 15:09:29 SkyNETbbs, to connect to ssh from linux just use $ ssh user@ip Nov 11 15:09:34 nothing more Nov 11 15:16:41 nothing less Nov 11 15:16:45 only loooove Nov 11 15:17:05 lo pablo_bz Nov 11 15:18:19 Inouk: exactly :P Nov 11 15:30:12 Hi Nov 11 15:30:20 Today I got my la Fonera 2.0 ! Nov 11 15:30:27 cool! Nov 11 15:30:27 :D Nov 11 15:30:30 upgrade it! Nov 11 15:30:33 I upgraded to the last version Nov 11 15:30:45 It works fine expet my weebcam Nov 11 15:30:53 Do I need an Hub = Nov 11 15:30:55 ? Nov 11 15:30:59 hmm Nov 11 15:31:05 if it's a USB 1.1 camera yes Nov 11 15:31:14 but even with that, it might not work Nov 11 15:31:22 in the wiki, there's a link to the currently supported cameras Nov 11 15:31:48 jackbell16: what webcam is it ? Nov 11 15:32:36 jackbell16: check here http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ Nov 11 15:32:38 It should be Vimicro USB PC Camera VC0305 Nov 11 15:32:41 see if you can find it Nov 11 15:32:57 But the USB port doesn't light green Nov 11 15:32:59 WHy ? Nov 11 15:35:33 hmmm Nov 11 15:35:38 that's only a light Nov 11 15:35:43 it might not be properly configured Nov 11 15:35:50 mine is off right now but the webcam works Nov 11 15:36:26 Do I need a HUB USB ? Nov 11 15:36:59 is your webcam on the list --> http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ Nov 11 15:37:04 jackbell16: is your webcam on the list --> http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/ Nov 11 15:37:29 May be Nov 11 15:37:53 @Inouk, on what port do I need to connect my fonera with putty? (For the RedBoot) Nov 11 15:37:54 there are a lot of vimicros Nov 11 15:38:04 but they are not marked with the model Nov 11 15:38:07 since it's a chipset Nov 11 15:38:14 what is the actual model of the camera? Nov 11 15:38:16 the brand? Nov 11 15:38:42 I don't know exclaty . May be Vimicro USB PC Camera VC0305 Nov 11 15:39:30 how old is the camera ? Nov 11 15:41:20 2 years Nov 11 15:43:58 wont work Nov 11 15:45:41 How Can I do ? Nov 11 15:50:07 Theoxis, from wiki: Nov 11 15:50:10 "Connect a network cable from your computer to the WAN port of the La Fonera (white)" Nov 11 15:53:58 I did it Nov 11 15:54:38 jackbell16: he's talking to Theoxis Nov 11 15:54:39 :) Nov 11 16:00:16 Here I am again, hope you guys dont get bored of me xD Nov 11 16:00:35 we don't Nov 11 16:00:38 (yet) Nov 11 16:00:49 hehe Nov 11 16:01:08 what should be filled in in the default gateway part (windows requires) Nov 11 16:01:24 I tried both 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.10.1 Nov 11 16:01:29 hmm Nov 11 16:01:31 but none of them enabled me to enter the fon Nov 11 16:01:32 it's not necessary Nov 11 16:01:37 whatever you put shuold work Nov 11 16:01:58 hmm, because, I came as far as the "putty connect" part Nov 11 16:02:05 but if your address is 192.168.1.2 and the netmask is 255.255.255.0, then better use a valid one, such as 192.168.1.1 Nov 11 16:02:18 aah ok Nov 11 16:02:23 the gateway is only necessary to access the internet Nov 11 16:02:28 and you are not gonna do that Nov 11 16:02:33 you will only ocnnect to the fonera Nov 11 16:03:53 Theoxis, get your putty window (or whatever you use) ready Nov 11 16:04:21 so when you see that your fonera respond you just have to click Nov 11 16:04:25 that easy Nov 11 16:04:48 *if you have everything ready :) Nov 11 16:09:10 ok guys Nov 11 16:09:14 source code available Nov 11 16:09:26 you can start downloading it if you're interested Nov 11 16:12:42 Inouk, one more question for you if possible: What about the "disconnecting the fon" part? it needs power right? Nov 11 16:14:27 Theoxis, when you have downloaded everything disconnect the fonera Nov 11 16:14:54 start the ping, and prepare your putty window Nov 11 16:15:25 then plug the fonera and as soon as it respond ping Nov 11 16:15:38 connect putty Nov 11 16:15:54 you have a 2 second window Nov 11 16:16:00 Theoxis: you need to synchronize Nov 11 16:16:12 because fonera will only accept putty for 2 seconds Nov 11 16:16:45 so you need to plug la fonera, while your computer is trying send pings to the fonera Nov 11 16:17:12 as inouk said, as soon as the fonera replies to a ping, then you have to be very fast and click on "connect" (or similar) on putty Nov 11 16:17:15 you understand? Nov 11 16:17:22 quite Nov 11 16:18:31 so, I set my IP to 192.168.1.254, I prepare putty and the Tftpd thing, I have my UTP cable connected and I turn on the FON while i'm pinging, as soon as the fon responds I immediately connect to it and then i'm in? Nov 11 16:18:34 do you have another that you can use to chat with us while doing it? Nov 11 16:19:03 Theoxis, yes \o/ Nov 11 16:19:23 hehe ok, ill give it another try ;) Nov 11 16:19:40 Theoxis: perfect Nov 11 16:33:22 Well... I have a screenshot and I hope someone wants to have a look at it... http://merlinstoll.nl/imgdump/probleem.jpg Nov 11 16:33:56 The pinging doesn't show 192.168.1.1 once, except on the top of the list but thats another router ;) Nov 11 16:34:53 hmmm Nov 11 16:34:56 weird Nov 11 16:35:09 very, yes Nov 11 16:35:23 because I did exactly what the wiki said Nov 11 16:36:03 Is there an SDK available for plugins in the beta 2 source? Nov 11 16:58:12 Merlin2, disconnect the fonera THEN start pinging :) Nov 11 16:58:21 THEN reconnect it Nov 11 16:59:07 even close the cosole window between the two Nov 11 17:14:27 I just flashed two Fonera2.0 in from web interface Nov 11 17:14:42 I think the one who fails are just impatient Nov 11 17:15:04 Inouk: yes Nov 11 17:28:33 xD I wasnt imatient, the thing just turned white xD (for like 25 mins or so...) Nov 11 17:29:07 ill try what you just said, dc and then ping;) Nov 11 17:30:38 Have a look at the wiki page I detailed it more than it was :) Nov 11 18:03:42 what can i use instead of cron...that there isn't in the last firmwares? Nov 11 18:04:36 fonstated Nov 11 18:04:45 monossido, check mailing list archive Nov 11 18:04:45 cat /etc/config/fonstate Nov 11 18:05:04 fonstated provides a means of calling commands at defined intervals Nov 11 18:05:10 blogic, explained it there I think :) Nov 11 18:05:30 ;) thanks Nov 11 18:05:33 but Nov 11 18:05:42 you need to reboot after changing the file :) Nov 11 18:05:49 the hot reload is not impleneted :) Nov 11 18:05:51 mm ok Nov 11 18:06:27 any man or help about options? Nov 11 18:07:10 nope Nov 11 18:07:12 not yet Nov 11 18:07:18 will come when we have a final release Nov 11 18:07:23 i will document the whole system Nov 11 18:07:51 ok Nov 11 18:15:33 monossido, http://fonosfera.org/pipermail/development/2008-November/000065.html Nov 11 18:22:02 great! Nov 11 18:26:35 or wiki http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/F2_MgtConsole_tweaks#Fonstated_replaces_CRONtab Nov 11 18:28:59 thanks SkyNETbbs! Nov 11 18:35:28 where can I report bugs for the beta2? Nov 11 18:35:30 blogic: connects the fon2 also to grps if no umts network available? Nov 11 18:36:16 kazwo: yes Nov 11 18:38:08 anywhere I can see "known" bugs? Nov 11 18:38:10 blogic: how can i find out what he dose? Nov 11 18:38:44 it is not shown yet in the webif Nov 11 18:38:52 we can add that option though i guess Nov 11 18:39:47 that would be nice, he stucks at "UMTS is dialing in" Nov 11 18:40:04 hmm Nov 11 18:40:06 what modem ? Nov 11 18:40:12 E220 ? Nov 11 18:40:26 RHarmsen: send them to the mailing list or fonera20@fon.com Nov 11 18:40:30 huawei e800 (express card) Nov 11 18:40:33 we will have trac in a few days Nov 11 18:40:33 hm Nov 11 18:40:46 the ttyUSB settings will have to be changed i guess Nov 11 18:40:51 iurgi: ok. will do that Nov 11 18:40:55 iam using this adapter http://www.delock.de/produkte/suche/Adapter_USB20_zu_Express_Card_34SLASH54mm_61575.html Nov 11 18:40:56 lets work on it in a few days if you have time ? Nov 11 18:41:05 kazwo: yeah, i remember Nov 11 18:41:22 kazwo: should be easy to get working Nov 11 18:41:37 i will be working on umts on friday i think Nov 11 18:42:09 oki :) Nov 11 18:42:19 cool Nov 11 18:46:19 About my dead fon2.0 => I have tried several more things (starting to ping without anything connected, connecting to both white and black utp ports) but none of them worked. I found out about this page thou: http://merlinstoll.nl/imgdump/fonscreen.jpg but when I try to get it upgrading from an image/fon file it doesn't work... Has anyone got any more suggestions for me =( Nov 11 19:06:09 The new version of firmware supports modem Huawei E220? Nov 11 19:06:35 gotta leave Nov 11 19:10:40 fonera: maybe, ask blogic for details Nov 11 19:12:25 Merlin, I leave the office as well Nov 11 19:12:50 pleasz tell us at what stepp of the process you are block Nov 11 19:12:58 and what you get Nov 11 19:13:10 write to the mailing list Nov 11 19:25:53 fonero: yes Nov 11 19:34:49 my Fonera 2 does not detect my modem E220 Nov 11 19:39:03 i have the same problem with my E800. sometimes it will be recognized, sometimes not. i thought the problem comes from the express to usb adapter Nov 11 19:39:18 fonero: hub ? Nov 11 19:44:52 i tested it with a trust usb 2 hub (HU-5870V), a noname usb hub and without it. Nov 11 20:08:00 I tested now with hub and does not detect modem Nov 11 20:09:47 i have a problem with the new firmware Nov 11 20:10:24 i can't access to the wan on private Nov 11 20:10:31 the option is enabled on the web interface Nov 11 20:14:15 barret2222: hmm Nov 11 20:16:43 how the problem manifests itself? example? Nov 11 20:17:01 by default it is enabled private ->WAN Nov 11 20:18:10 on my laptop connected(192.168.10.189) on private (fonera 2.0 beta 2.1.0.2) i can't ping my pc on the LAN 192.168.0.2 Nov 11 20:18:57 barret2222: yeah Nov 11 20:19:01 seems to be a bug Nov 11 20:19:02 :( Nov 11 20:19:04 utghs Nov 11 20:19:20 before the update it works! Nov 11 20:19:22 i can confirm the bug Nov 11 20:20:04 barret2222: my fault, sorry Nov 11 20:20:35 don't blame yourself :) Nov 11 20:21:03 i test to disable the option private_>wan Nov 11 20:21:42 hehe Nov 11 20:22:42 not working Nov 11 20:23:03 a german nature :P Nov 11 20:23:25 @ blame ^^ Nov 11 20:23:28 what i have done to solve the problem in a litle time Nov 11 20:23:51 on ssh create a tunnel to a port on my lan to access on local LOL Nov 11 20:25:18 who is nslu2-log? Nov 11 20:25:20 lol Nov 11 20:30:19 blogic if you create a fix to solve that issue please add a rules who (WAN->PRIVATE) Nov 11 20:31:38 barret2222: i assume you have a secondary router doing inet ? Nov 11 20:39:15 yep Nov 11 20:39:43 a netgear who have 192.168.0.0 network Nov 11 20:40:13 a fon who have 192.168.0.16 on netgear(wan) and 192.168.10.0 on private Nov 11 20:41:03 ok Nov 11 20:41:17 so ideally you would just bridge on the fon, to have 2 lan ports Nov 11 20:42:36 i want to bridge like a router does Nov 11 20:43:01 you want 2 ip ranges ß Nov 11 20:43:05 you want 2 ip ? Nov 11 20:43:09 you want 2 ip ranges ? Nov 11 20:43:26 there is "deja" 2 ip ranges Nov 11 20:44:05 my LAN (netgear) is WAN and fonera is conneded on it Nov 11 20:44:26 how do u connect ur fonera to the internet? Nov 11 20:44:49 pppoe Nov 11 20:44:55 ah ok Nov 11 20:45:04 but would you mind to have only 1 ip range ? Nov 11 20:45:46 no 2 ip range is better to allow to admin to block or not the bridge traffic Nov 11 20:50:18 i like to have one ip range and no private signal ^^ Nov 11 20:50:54 ok Nov 11 20:56:25 can i send mail from fonera? bin/mail doesn't exist Nov 11 20:56:44 lol Nov 11 20:57:41 lol...strange question?maybe it is my bad english Nov 11 20:57:56 no no Nov 11 20:58:33 test opkg install fetchmail Nov 11 20:58:35 monossido1: not yet :) Nov 11 20:58:47 or mini-sendmail_1.3.6-2_mips.ipk Nov 11 20:59:00 come from Nov 11 20:59:02 http://downloads.openwrt.org/kamikaze/packages/mips/ Nov 11 20:59:06 ok i'll try mini-sendmail Nov 11 20:59:29 http://www.fonera.be/rep/FON2202/ it's the same? Nov 11 20:59:46 heu Nov 11 21:00:30 the same i know Nov 11 21:00:56 for only sendmail, perjaps try ssmt Nov 11 21:00:59 ssmtp Nov 11 21:02:18 mini-sendmail bad :)...i try ssmtp Nov 11 21:02:38 minisendmail the new outlook lol Nov 11 21:16:49 mmmm ssmtp also bad lol...no mail binary Nov 11 21:18:07 according to debian packages /usr/bin/mail is provided by mailx and mailutils Nov 11 21:18:13 http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=bin%2Fmail&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any Nov 11 21:19:23 why to you wan to use the "mail binary"? Nov 11 21:19:44 for fun ;) Nov 11 21:20:40 i'm not a guru...i'm trying to set up a mail-alert when a fonero connect to my fon hotspot Nov 11 21:21:02 so you can use ssmtp ^^ Nov 11 21:21:40 mm ok...how? Nov 11 21:22:13 freewlan use the simple echo "...massage...." | mail $MAIL_TO ecc... Nov 11 21:22:19 *message Nov 11 21:23:03 ssmtp is like that Nov 11 21:23:23 you configure your mail server in /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf Nov 11 21:24:34 and you can use it like "mail" Nov 11 21:26:16 for example: Nov 11 21:26:17 #!/bin/sh Nov 11 21:26:17 MAIL_FROM=$1 Nov 11 21:26:17 MAIL_TO=$2 Nov 11 21:26:17 SUBJECT="Test Mail" Nov 11 21:26:17 DATE=`date` Nov 11 21:26:19 (echo -e "From: $MAIL_FROM Nov 11 21:26:21 To: $MAIL_TO Nov 11 21:26:23 Subject: $SUBJECT Nov 11 21:26:25 " Nov 11 21:26:27 echo "$DATE Nov 11 21:26:29 Test mail" Nov 11 21:26:31 ) | /usr/sbin/ssmtp -dt Nov 11 21:29:16 Hi guys! I finally got into Redboot! =D xD Nov 11 21:29:34 Te secret behind the story is "press the red reset button..." Nov 11 21:29:39 ok thank u...i've installed only dipendence no ssmtp lol Nov 11 22:12:32 Theoxis, I entered into redboot with out touching reset button Nov 11 23:29:35 alx-fokus: I hope you0re happy with the code now! Nov 11 23:29:46 guys, I0m of to bed Nov 11 23:31:17 iurgi: y0 Nov 12 00:01:17 maybe i am doing something completly wrong, but http://fonosfera.org/dl/20081110_FON2202_2.1.0_beta2_SYLVESTER.tbz2 is empty Nov 12 00:02:42 ? Nov 12 00:04:27 same here Nov 12 00:05:16 alx-fokus: md5sum ? Nov 12 00:05:56 takes some time, download is going from fast to slow and back Nov 12 00:06:10 alx-fokus: empty for me too Nov 12 00:06:47 hlet point at iurgi and laugh :) Nov 12 00:06:52 lets point at iurgi and laugh :) Nov 12 00:07:08 come on Nov 12 00:07:17 fon is a young company Nov 12 00:07:19 ;) Nov 12 00:07:22 hmmm Nov 12 00:07:36 MUHAHAHAHA!!!!11!1!eleven! Nov 12 00:10:50 ups Nov 12 00:10:54 wasn't me Nov 12 00:20:50 * rwhitby starts a beta2 build from source ... Nov 12 00:21:11 rwhitby: :) Nov 12 00:21:54 10 hours of building ahead Nov 12 00:22:42 you on a p2 ? Nov 12 00:22:52 full build with all packages Nov 12 00:22:55 maybe he's building it on a slug ... Nov 12 00:23:14 * rwhitby has built an openwrt kernel on a slug before ... Nov 12 00:23:51 so manny different way of selftorture in software industries availavle Nov 12 01:18:33 build of source failed - rerunning with V=99 Nov 12 01:19:03 which package? Nov 12 01:19:04 This is Ubuntu 8.04, which builds openwrt perfectly for mipsel and ixp4xx targets. Nov 12 01:19:21 fon/gdata Nov 12 01:19:28 main.c: In function 'gd_youtube_get_feed': Nov 12 01:19:29 main.c:407: error: 'FON_CLIENT_ID' undeclared (first use in this function) Nov 12 01:19:41 Same for FON_DEVELOPER_KEY Nov 12 01:20:17 My build recipe was untar tarball, ./install.sh; cd openwrt; make Nov 12 01:22:05 (this is a tarball from blogic, http://fonosfera.org/dl/20081110_FON2202_2.1.0_beta2_SYLVESTER.tbz2 is still zero length) Nov 12 01:24:06 both those symbols do not occur anywhere in the complete source tree other than in ./fon/gdata/src/main.c - so they are globally undefined Nov 12 01:25:34 i am building the same source, but as i enabled all packages, it will take some time to come to that point Nov 12 02:49:51 So I've commented out the four lines that reference those symbols (there's some weird stuff in fon/gdata about uploading a bad wedding toast video to youtube) and compilation now continues ... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Nov 12 02:59:58 2008