**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 04 02:59:57 2008 Dec 04 04:36:02 hi Dec 04 05:50:40 Hi all Dec 04 05:50:45 I got a problem Dec 04 05:50:50 I flashed in RC1 Dec 04 05:50:58 NO SSH anymore !!! Dec 04 05:51:08 i got this problem as well Dec 04 05:51:19 ok Dec 04 05:51:25 That's uncool Dec 04 05:51:57 Like in games : "I need backup !' Dec 04 05:52:19 dun know if its a bug or they mean to do it. Dec 04 05:52:57 I think It's bug Dec 04 05:53:36 Ok I need to go now thaks for your answer Dec 04 05:53:38 Bye Dec 04 07:04:17 Hi all Dec 04 07:08:35 hi Dec 04 07:09:23 Re Dec 04 07:09:31 Blogic not here now... Dec 04 07:09:40 or Iurgi Dec 04 07:09:59 its a bit early for them i think Dec 04 07:10:05 I have mailed about the ssh problem so everyone is informed Dec 04 07:10:11 Cause I cannot stay connected Dec 04 07:10:19 I have to work ;-) Dec 04 07:10:36 i wonder if the web interface has test with IE. Dec 04 07:11:32 i try IE6(although its super old), its completely unuseable Dec 04 07:23:59 Possible IE6 is very poor Dec 04 07:35:47 the webcam is not working on my firefox Dec 04 07:53:29 TeigneuX: ssh works for me on rc1 Dec 04 07:54:00 :-( Dec 04 07:54:17 kazwo: fon_ has the same prob Dec 04 07:54:44 hmm cant check it now Dec 04 07:55:12 Its very strange Dec 04 07:55:20 kazwo: do you flash it with .image file or tarbar? Dec 04 07:55:22 I'm so disapointted Dec 04 07:55:25 .image Dec 04 07:55:29 via wifi Dec 04 07:55:31 i used the image Dec 04 07:55:36 via cable Dec 04 07:55:43 perhaps is that Dec 04 07:55:55 i try flash it with cable as well Dec 04 07:56:01 lol Dec 04 07:56:20 fon_, same prob so ? Dec 04 07:56:34 i also try flash it with redboot again , but still no access Dec 04 07:56:49 damn ! Dec 04 07:57:12 i know. Dec 04 08:17:45 ftp seems not working on mine as well Dec 04 09:00:50 guys Dec 04 09:00:54 everything works for me Dec 04 09:00:56 :) Dec 04 09:01:00 there has to be something else Dec 04 09:01:36 ok. Then anything that you suggust us to do with it? Dec 04 09:02:22 well, first of all, let me give it a try myself again Dec 04 09:02:34 to be honest, I didn't try ssh in the last image I built Dec 04 09:04:55 ug oh Dec 04 09:04:57 my fault Dec 04 09:05:01 sorry everybody Dec 04 09:05:01 :D Dec 04 09:05:08 I'll update the image soon Dec 04 09:05:34 * RHarmsen thinks he stall had SSH with the RC1 :s Dec 04 09:05:39 stall = still Dec 04 09:05:57 RHarmsen: ssh is there but not enabled by default Dec 04 09:05:58 sorry Dec 04 09:06:18 well, it worked for me ... at least I thought Dec 04 09:06:30 can't confirum it now, as the fon isn't connected to the home lan at this moment, and I am at work Dec 04 09:07:56 iurgi: I will kill you ;-) Dec 04 09:08:20 TeigneuX: :D Dec 04 09:09:02 I think you will make a new image ? Dec 04 09:09:36 So I will have to deal with Redboot :-| Dec 04 09:09:47 Not in touch with this kind of things Dec 04 09:10:19 don't worry Dec 04 09:10:22 we'l make it easy Dec 04 09:10:39 just wanna say, the ftp doesn't seems to work as well Dec 04 09:11:30 anyone has the same problem as well? Dec 04 09:12:12 For me I'll wait ssh access to test others things Dec 04 09:16:12 * RHarmsen hasn't tested anything else (yet) Dec 04 09:17:18 fon_: i'll test it too Dec 04 09:17:35 fon_: you did set the password, right? Dec 04 09:17:42 yes Dec 04 09:18:00 iurgi: We will have an update for the ssh today ? Dec 04 09:18:12 TeigneuX: probably Dec 04 09:18:20 yes Dec 04 09:18:25 Perhaps You should add an message on the wiki Dec 04 09:18:42 the connection refuse before asking for username and password Dec 04 09:18:47 so that everyone don't update since you make the new version Dec 04 09:34:10 perhaps you could launch "developer" plugin to enable ssh access? Dec 04 09:34:20 then we finally can see how such a plugin is made :-) Dec 04 09:34:44 checked trac.fonosfera.org yesterday evening... but currently the "wiki" is still a quick draft :-) Dec 04 09:34:48 (on fonosfera) Dec 04 09:35:26 image updated Dec 04 09:35:30 check the blog link Dec 04 09:35:45 I will checkf ftp now, but this is probably a bug, not a configuration error Dec 04 09:38:55 iurgi: So I can only correct SSH via redboot ? Dec 04 09:39:05 SkyNETbbs: good idea for the plugin Dec 04 09:39:15 And it's very logic Dec 04 09:41:25 yes currently Iurgy only made an image available which only works with "redboot" Dec 04 09:42:04 :-( Dec 04 09:42:12 Let's have a plugin Dec 04 09:42:20 so normal users don't need ssh Dec 04 09:42:33 and others like us(want ssh) Dec 04 09:42:55 lol, that's not a new idea Dec 04 09:43:47 we already explained that the fonera will have ssh closed by default and will be opened by just clicking on "open my fonera" Dec 04 09:44:49 So where is this button ;-p Dec 04 09:44:57 oh goss Dec 04 09:45:14 you guys are like SkyNETbbs that think that things just happen out of magic? Dec 04 09:45:15 :) Dec 04 09:45:39 lol Dec 04 09:45:43 hehe Dec 04 09:45:56 So tonight redboot for me Dec 04 09:45:57 did I mention magic somewhere sometime? Dec 04 09:46:01 lol Dec 04 09:46:05 good luck Dec 04 09:46:20 What game are you playing ? => like in an famous ad Dec 04 09:46:36 any finding on ftp? Dec 04 09:46:49 Iurgi; the bug you just found... will it be checked in the "trunk" of the svn? hence last change was 23hours ago? Dec 04 09:47:29 should i wait for the update for the ftp before i update to the new firmware that u just created? Dec 04 09:47:30 fon_: no, sorry Dec 04 09:47:38 I'm busy with other stuff right now :( Dec 04 09:48:47 no worry, i am just thinking should I wait for the ftp fix before update to the fimware u just created. Dec 04 09:48:54 iurgi: switch links on wiki (actually source points image) Dec 04 09:50:04 ops Dec 04 09:50:05 thanks Dec 04 09:51:13 ??? Dec 04 09:51:14 you sure? Dec 04 09:51:35 ?? Dec 04 09:51:36 not link but text Dec 04 09:51:53 Source tarball: http://blog.fonosfera.org/20081204_FON2202_2.2.0.0_rc1_alfred.image Dec 04 09:52:13 ??? Dec 04 09:52:28 Binary: http://blog.fonosfera.org/20081204_FON2202_2.2.0.0_rc1_alfred.image - md5sum d3b09324b0456f4ce2f774a655f89c50 Dec 04 09:52:31 Source: http://blog.fonosfera.org/20081203_FON2202_2.2.0.0_rc1_alfred.tar.bz2 - md5sum cf9609bd0c5d75a2f5892f281c0c5fc6 Dec 04 09:52:34 that's what I see Dec 04 09:53:10 actually /tarball shows nothing Dec 04 09:53:18 * Source tarball: http://blog.fonosfera.org/20081204_FON2202_2.2.0.0_rc1_alfred.image Dec 04 09:53:19 * Binary file (redboot or bash) : http://blog.fonosfera.org/20081203_FON2202_2.2.0.0_rc1_alfred.tar.bz2 Dec 04 09:53:30 oh, WIKI Dec 04 09:53:35 yes Dec 04 09:53:37 I thought you meant blog Dec 04 09:53:38 sorry Dec 04 09:53:42 I never editted the wiki Dec 04 09:53:43 no prob Dec 04 09:53:45 lol Dec 04 09:53:50 I'll tell inouk Dec 04 09:53:52 he does that Dec 04 09:53:58 that's why I go tit wrong Dec 04 09:54:00 fixed it... Dec 04 09:54:02 inouk: around? Dec 04 09:54:08 could you please check that? Dec 04 09:55:07 yes Dec 04 09:55:09 I've fixed wiki ... Dec 04 09:55:19 I'll do it Dec 04 09:55:22 thx Dec 04 09:55:23 ha OK... Dec 04 09:55:26 thx Dec 04 09:56:06 so the image on the wiki have no ssh enabled, and we should wait for a solution, am I right ? Dec 04 09:56:59 SkyNETbbs, in the wiki the stuff that are circle in blue is for code Dec 04 09:57:01 the wiki is updated with the blog entry and uses 20081204 which should have ssh enabled Dec 04 09:57:09 please take that in account Dec 04 09:57:22 someone used it for MD5sum hashes as well Dec 04 09:58:07 want it still used for md5 or not? Dec 04 09:58:14 TeigneuX: as I said, the blog links are updated ;) Dec 04 09:58:18 well for MDSUM its OK Dec 04 09:58:28 iurgi: OK Dec 04 09:58:33 :P Dec 04 09:58:41 then it should be fixed now Dec 04 09:58:47 I'll take another coffee Dec 04 09:59:09 the wiki links are also updated a few seconds after iurgi made the links available on the irc channel Dec 04 10:00:15 but not for anything you wana say ;) Dec 04 10:01:20 no i don't mention the speed of trains on the wiki...i leave that info for irc :-) Dec 04 10:13:50 fon_: you're right, FTP won't work Dec 04 10:13:50 :( Dec 04 10:23:10 morning Dec 04 10:23:35 why wont ftp work ? Dec 04 10:26:09 any kernel change from sylvester to alfred? Dec 04 10:32:02 nope Dec 04 10:32:16 well, no relevant ones, i fixed 2 hotplug scripts :) Dec 04 10:32:19 that is it Dec 04 10:32:24 .ko will be compat Dec 04 10:34:05 blogic: dunno, for some reason fonstated won't bring ftp up Dec 04 10:34:12 fs -l RestartFtp won't work Dec 04 10:34:25 running manually /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd works though Dec 04 10:35:52 ? Dec 04 10:35:54 1 sec Dec 04 10:37:12 did you set a passwd in luci Dec 04 10:37:21 yes Dec 04 10:37:28 and saved aferwards Dec 04 10:37:52 ok Dec 04 10:38:03 * blogic checks Dec 04 10:38:57 anyone would please open a ticket on the trac? Dec 04 10:39:02 it would be the first one ;) Dec 04 10:40:37 RestartFtp is not executable for some reason Dec 04 10:40:38 1 sec Dec 04 10:42:12 ok Dec 04 10:50:46 iurgi: fixed ftp Dec 04 10:50:54 iurgi: the binary images do not have ssh enabled ? Dec 04 10:51:48 blogic: no Dec 04 10:51:52 now they do Dec 04 10:51:56 ok Dec 04 11:03:46 on the settings screen, it asks for username and password. it only needs the password :-) Dec 04 11:04:28 rwhitby: checking Dec 04 11:05:22 * rwhitby gets ticket #5 Dec 04 11:06:25 rwhitby: where exactly ? Dec 04 11:06:30 can you tell me the uri ? Dec 04 11:06:55 http://192.168.10.1/luci/fon_admin Dec 04 11:07:04 * Dashboard Dec 04 11:07:05 * >> Settings Dec 04 11:07:08 Authorization Required Dec 04 11:07:11 ah, textwise Dec 04 11:07:11 ok Dec 04 11:07:15 Please enter your username and password. Dec 04 11:07:19 ok Dec 04 11:07:31 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/5 :-) Dec 04 11:08:57 Hmm - can't edit the ticket to add the uri Dec 04 11:24:04 So I've got an old Logitech quickcam 4000 connected - now to install a pwc module and see if things work with it ... Dec 04 11:24:29 it wont work :) Dec 04 11:24:39 the stream app is for uvc only atm Dec 04 11:24:56 we will write a luci based v4l2 stream app soonish Dec 04 11:25:00 figured that might be the case :-) Dec 04 11:25:06 yep Dec 04 11:25:07 well Dec 04 11:25:14 we use mjpeg streamer Dec 04 11:25:25 so is there a feed which has all kernel modules and all packages built, or do I need to create one myself on ipkg.nslu2-linux.org ;-) Dec 04 11:25:26 in theory there should be a input_v4l2 plugin Dec 04 11:25:38 there is none yet :) Dec 04 11:25:44 there will be with the release Dec 04 11:25:53 but i do not want to always build it :) Dec 04 11:26:42 I can put one here in the meantime: http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/ unless you prefer that I don't. Dec 04 11:27:00 go for it Dec 04 11:51:51 hmm - no ssh running on alfred ... Dec 04 11:52:10 or at least it's refusing connections from both lan and a port-forwarded wan too Dec 04 11:52:37 rwhitby: did you get the latest image from the blog? Dec 04 11:52:47 what's the md5sum of the image you used? Dec 04 11:52:54 or did you compile it yourself? Dec 04 11:53:30 I used the link you pasted here 2 hours ago Dec 04 11:53:38 hmmmm Dec 04 11:53:40 http://blog.fonosfera.org/20081204_FON2202_2.2.0.0_rc1_alfred.image Dec 04 11:53:40 weird Dec 04 11:53:46 really weird Dec 04 11:53:53 do you have serial access to it? Dec 04 11:53:54 dunno the md5sum, cause I used wget to /tmp on the device I reflashed :-) Dec 04 11:54:00 hehe Dec 04 11:54:01 ok Dec 04 11:54:02 not this one, no. Dec 04 11:54:08 dammid Dec 04 11:54:15 I was doing my "dumb user" impersonation :-) Dec 04 11:54:20 hehe Dec 04 11:54:27 that's weird Dec 04 11:54:35 I did check that ssh flag was enabled now Dec 04 11:54:36 :( Dec 04 11:54:46 I'm gonna flash mine with that image and see what's up Dec 04 11:54:49 gimme 10min Dec 04 11:54:49 check with vi or test Dec 04 11:54:56 ok :) Dec 04 11:55:15 go for it iurgi Dec 04 11:55:33 my fonera is a formula 1 fonera Dec 04 11:55:37 flashes the image in 7min Dec 04 11:55:38 :D Dec 04 11:55:45 yes Dec 04 11:55:49 why do i not have 1 ? Dec 04 11:55:53 blogic feels envy Dec 04 11:56:00 * rwhitby feels envy too Dec 04 11:56:01 me too Dec 04 11:56:05 lol Dec 04 11:56:16 I reckon I can build the image faster than I can flash it ... Dec 04 11:56:17 TeigneuX: blogic does more... has to flash at least once or twice a day... Dec 04 11:56:22 it tooks me 30 min this morning Dec 04 11:56:25 rwhitby: probably Dec 04 11:56:32 iurgi: ok Dec 04 11:58:01 iurgi: if I flash an image newly built from svn (I saw some change to the registered file) I assume it will work? Dec 04 11:58:11 svn up Dec 04 11:58:15 then it should... Dec 04 11:58:20 lol Dec 04 11:58:27 but that's what I used to build the alfred one in the blog Dec 04 11:58:29 right - did that and saw changes to the ftp and registered files Dec 04 11:58:34 so, let me give it a try first Dec 04 11:58:44 won't take long Dec 04 11:58:53 5min more Dec 04 11:58:59 of course with a F1 fonera 2 Dec 04 11:59:55 hehe Dec 04 12:00:23 * iurgi is checking whether I have another F-1 fonera for blogic Dec 04 12:01:08 flashed Dec 04 12:01:09 botting Dec 04 12:01:12 booting Dec 04 12:01:16 * TeigneuX things that blogic deserved it Dec 04 12:01:43 TeigneuX: its a question of loosing time Dec 04 12:01:49 lol Dec 04 12:01:51 I understand Dec 04 12:01:57 iurgi has the fast one, because he flashes it 2-3 times a week Dec 04 12:02:01 i do 2-3flashes adaya Dec 04 12:02:13 that is about 20-30 hours waster every month Dec 04 12:02:22 The quicker you flash, the more upgrades are coming :-D Dec 04 12:02:28 its spanish -iurgi-logic :) Dec 04 12:02:33 blogic: you can use that time for code reviews instead of on-device testing ;-) Dec 04 12:02:49 rwhitby: did you ait long enough? Dec 04 12:02:58 on first boot, the ssh rsa key needs to be generated Dec 04 12:03:06 ah Dec 04 12:03:07 nod, it's been up for some time Dec 04 12:03:17 h,,, Dec 04 12:03:19 rwhitby: Dec 04 12:03:20 hmmm Dec 04 12:03:22 uci show registered Dec 04 12:03:26 please Dec 04 12:03:29 you're right Dec 04 12:03:32 blogic: no serial on this one Dec 04 12:03:37 left the serial one at work Dec 04 12:03:39 config fonreg fonreg Dec 04 12:03:41 option registered 1 Dec 04 12:03:44 option dev 1 Dec 04 12:03:52 rwhitby: ok Dec 04 12:04:11 blogic: I have the same image flashed here Dec 04 12:04:13 iurgi:so no ssh ? Dec 04 12:04:23 ssh works for me Dec 04 12:04:34 blogic: not here Dec 04 12:04:38 iurgi: is ssh working in your image ? Dec 04 12:04:43 nope Dec 04 12:04:47 ?!?! Dec 04 12:04:50 why not Dec 04 12:04:51 perhaps is there a prob with ssh-keygen ? Dec 04 12:04:55 kno Dec 04 12:04:57 no Dec 04 12:05:02 its because i did not make the image Dec 04 12:05:04 dunno, no dropbear process running Dec 04 12:05:08 yeah, sure Dec 04 12:05:12 make Dec 04 12:05:12 :D Dec 04 12:05:15 needs the magic touch Dec 04 12:05:17 lol Dec 04 12:05:19 /etc/fonstated/RestartSSH Dec 04 12:05:28 did you rebbot ince ? Dec 04 12:05:30 dev vs end-user profile? Dec 04 12:05:35 rebooting once Dec 04 12:05:36 no Dec 04 12:05:43 blogic: just thought that might help, I rebooted Dec 04 12:05:44 reebooting or rebooted ? Dec 04 12:05:45 almost done Dec 04 12:05:50 ok Dec 04 12:05:56 I had already rebooted Dec 04 12:06:00 because on first boot it tries to start ssh before the key is there Dec 04 12:06:04 ok Dec 04 12:06:19 hmm - no reboot button on the gui ... Dec 04 12:06:28 rwhitby: i know Dec 04 12:06:33 that's optimistic ;-) Dec 04 12:06:38 there we go Dec 04 12:06:47 ssh up and running after reboot Dec 04 12:06:47 ok Dec 04 12:06:52 yes Dec 04 12:06:54 1819 root 1936 S /usr/sbin/dropbear -F -p 22 Dec 04 12:06:58 on frst boot the key is generated Dec 04 12:07:32 rwhitby: can you confirm on your side as well? Dec 04 12:07:37 doing so now Dec 04 12:07:40 So you need to flash Dec 04 12:07:41 ok Dec 04 12:07:42 wait Dec 04 12:07:45 and reboot Dec 04 12:07:46 what? Dec 04 12:07:51 ah, yes Dec 04 12:08:03 wait until it's completely booted, then reboot Dec 04 12:08:10 ok Dec 04 12:08:16 we should fix this Dec 04 12:08:20 ? Dec 04 12:08:22 why Dec 04 12:08:24 without serial, what is the indication that ssh keygen is finished? Dec 04 12:08:25 it is expected behavious Dec 04 12:08:32 just you changed the workflow Dec 04 12:08:36 no way Dec 04 12:08:38 rwhitby, goof question Dec 04 12:08:38 by delivering dev=1 images Dec 04 12:08:50 rwhitby: there is none Dec 04 12:08:55 there is not supposed to be one Dec 04 12:09:07 ssh is not supposed to be open in 99,999% of images Dec 04 12:09:14 there's no led that changes state after all init scripts are done? Dec 04 12:09:18 trhe idea is that we have enduser images Dec 04 12:09:24 and push dev=1 from userzone Dec 04 12:09:39 rwhitby: the powre led goes green Dec 04 12:09:40 blogic: I understand your point, if there is the ssh open button, no rpob Dec 04 12:09:49 :) Dec 04 12:09:52 iurgi: ssh works now after one reboot Dec 04 12:09:59 cool Dec 04 12:10:24 plz update wiki for this trick Dec 04 12:10:25 blogic: you're right, it's a workflow change Dec 04 12:10:30 blogic: so is power led going green the indication for dev images too? Dec 04 12:10:33 I agree Dec 04 12:10:40 or is keygen done with & ? Dec 04 12:10:54 & Dec 04 12:11:00 why? Dec 04 12:11:03 but when led goes green there has been much time Dec 04 12:11:07 rwhitby: power led turns green only when it's connected to the internet and the scripts are done Dec 04 12:11:16 i generate the key right after jffs/ is up Dec 04 12:11:21 why not just wait for keygen to complete before starting daemon Dec 04 12:11:28 if it's a dev image, then they know to wait, right? Dec 04 12:11:32 why not just ( ssh-keygen ...; RestartSSH ) & ? Dec 04 12:11:39 rwhitby: that would add about 25s plus to first boot time... Dec 04 12:11:49 and ? Dec 04 12:11:52 iurgi: correct - perfectly reasonable for a dev image Dec 04 12:11:53 what's the prob Dec 04 12:12:05 TeigneuX: this would happen to all images Dec 04 12:12:07 not only dev images Dec 04 12:12:10 since ssh is there Dec 04 12:12:13 arg Dec 04 12:12:13 just not activated Dec 04 12:12:22 Yes but in the manual : Dec 04 12:12:24 normal users connect the fonera the first time and try to register it Dec 04 12:12:27 Plug and wait Dec 04 12:12:32 if it takes very long, they complain Dec 04 12:12:33 and after some time Dec 04 12:12:36 if not, ask inouk ;) Dec 04 12:12:39 lol Dec 04 12:12:46 we ant to remove this timings Dec 04 12:13:03 hmm whatN Dec 04 12:13:05 we are actually pushing 'ending upgrades' to later, not to first boot Dec 04 12:13:06 ? Dec 04 12:13:09 so they don't complain Dec 04 12:13:10 iurgi: if dropbear is not enabled, then it will not appear in /etc/rc.d and therefore keygen doesn't get run Dec 04 12:13:10 understand, so need to generate SSH key if not present on pushing open ssh Dec 04 12:13:16 xMff: yes, that would be the solution, thx Dec 04 12:13:31 everyone stop discusisng, xmff has the solution and i will use it Dec 04 12:13:34 rwhitby: I think the key is generated in any case, but I might be wrong Dec 04 12:13:41 yes Dec 04 12:13:43 correct Dec 04 12:13:43 :D Dec 04 12:13:49 end of argument Dec 04 12:13:50 lol Dec 04 12:13:52 ok Dec 04 12:14:06 Will you make another image with this mod ? Dec 04 12:14:20 nope, that's a 'bugfix' Dec 04 12:14:30 will have to wait for next release candidate Dec 04 12:14:35 no now, instead of devs seeing that the power led hasn't gone green yet and knowing to wait, you'll get devs that try to log in as soon as the power led goes green and they will complain that ssh doesn't work. Dec 04 12:14:39 but well, it's not that bad Dec 04 12:14:58 rwhitby: it will work with the new change Dec 04 12:15:05 it's a temporary thingie Dec 04 12:15:25 rwhitby, you're right Dec 04 12:15:26 iurgi: it won't work during the 25 secs after led turning green during with the key is still being generated ... Dec 04 12:15:37 and usually, developers are much more comprehensive and it's easier to tell them, hey, it's becausse of this, reboot ;) Dec 04 12:15:50 iurgi: right, so you can tell them to wait until green instead Dec 04 12:16:08 either you tell them nothing, and get complaints either way, or you tell them to wait until led is green Dec 04 12:16:09 rwhitby: this 25s are gone by when the light is green Dec 04 12:16:30 iurgi: if that is the case, then no problem Dec 04 12:16:36 rwhitby: yes Dec 04 12:16:44 wait till the led is green after the flash Dec 04 12:16:57 if led goes green all scripts have run and system is operational Dec 04 12:17:03 I withdraw the issue then :-) Dec 04 12:17:21 ok Dec 04 12:17:22 thx Dec 04 12:18:12 ok, next problem. No opkg or ipkg in this image :-( Dec 04 12:18:29 ok Dec 04 12:18:30 dev images don't get opkg? Dec 04 12:19:14 ?!? Dec 04 12:19:18 crap Dec 04 12:19:22 lol Dec 04 12:19:23 did i forget that ? Dec 04 12:19:28 oh well Dec 04 12:19:30 rc2 will have it Dec 04 12:19:31 * rwhitby wants to install bluetooth modules ... Dec 04 12:19:40 blogic: I think you prepared everything for enduser mode Dec 04 12:19:42 rc1->rc2 is only bug fixes Dec 04 12:19:45 sure Dec 04 12:19:50 iurgi: i did indeed Dec 04 12:20:02 don't worry guys, my build will be done soon and it will have opkg :-) Dec 04 12:20:13 Will you provide 2 types of images dev and enduser ? Dec 04 12:20:17 rwhitby: cool Dec 04 12:20:18 thanks Dec 04 12:20:21 ticket? Dec 04 12:20:24 thanks Dec 04 12:20:26 TeigneuX: yes Dec 04 12:20:31 ok Dec 04 12:20:42 enduser will be totally functional and users will be able to install plugins Dec 04 12:20:54 anyone can switch to developer mode, no problem Dec 04 12:20:58 ok Dec 04 12:21:11 but by default, they're all in enduser mode, so people don't just mess around unwillingly Dec 04 12:21:11 Back to job, ciapo Dec 04 12:21:20 normal Dec 04 12:21:22 they have to 'accept' they're switching to developer mode Dec 04 12:21:27 ok Dec 04 12:21:27 ciao Dec 04 12:21:37 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/6 Dec 04 12:21:50 tnx Dec 04 12:22:39 you need a category for rootfs or something - I couldn't choose a good one for that ticket other than feature request Dec 04 12:23:02 and maybe allow ticket changes Dec 04 12:23:04 s/category/Trac Component/ Dec 04 12:23:13 xMff: logged users can Dec 04 12:23:17 ic Dec 04 12:23:19 xMff: I can do ticket changes ;-) Dec 04 12:23:28 nothing said Dec 04 12:23:59 rwhitby: what category? I'm ready to add them Dec 04 12:24:01 ooooh - I've for WIKI_MODIFY too ;-) Dec 04 12:24:20 * rwhitby laughs manaically Dec 04 12:24:30 btw, rwhitby you probably want tickets for yourself? rwhitby-bluetooth and similar components? Dec 04 12:24:46 iurgi: no thanks. then I'd have to do work. Dec 04 12:24:51 hahahaha Dec 04 12:24:54 ok Dec 04 12:25:09 feel free to ask components so I can add them Dec 04 12:25:13 so fon-rootfs Dec 04 12:25:13 ? Dec 04 12:25:23 what kind of reports for? Dec 04 12:25:25 Component fon-firmware ? Dec 04 12:25:44 hmmm isn't that very generic? Dec 04 12:25:55 true Dec 04 12:26:03 fon-base-firmware ;-) Dec 04 12:26:09 hahaha Dec 04 12:26:10 ok Dec 04 12:26:21 so, you want a 'general' component? Dec 04 12:26:29 not classified? Dec 04 12:26:38 fon-not-classified? Dec 04 12:26:39 no, one that means the stuff in the firmware that the end-user doesn't see Dec 04 12:26:48 ahhhhhhhh Dec 04 12:26:50 hmmm Dec 04 12:27:23 it's quite generic... imagine you have a problem with scripts not booting in the proper order Dec 04 12:27:26 (since all your other categories will be targeted to end-user visible things) Dec 04 12:27:30 is that what you mean? Dec 04 12:27:35 yes Dec 04 12:27:36 well, they don't have to Dec 04 12:27:44 I just added 4 or 5 I thought of Dec 04 12:27:53 but I don't want to have 40 categories either Dec 04 12:28:02 are you expecting end users that are not developers to use this trac? Dec 04 12:28:04 fon-base is fine Dec 04 12:28:09 hmmm Dec 04 12:28:21 well, I would say not everybody in the channel is a "developer" Dec 04 12:28:22 so yes Dec 04 12:28:27 advanced users Dec 04 12:28:59 So I would define a developer as anyone know knows that the device has ssh running. Dec 04 12:29:24 perhaps that's the same as your advanced user definition Dec 04 12:29:24 yeah, king of Dec 04 12:29:27 kind of Dec 04 12:29:31 ues Dec 04 12:29:32 yes Dec 04 12:30:22 fon-openwrt-rootfs ;-) Dec 04 12:31:01 I think the categories that are there are good one Dec 04 12:31:02 s Dec 04 12:31:06 fon-openwrt sounds ok for all trunk/openwrt stuff Dec 04 12:31:13 thanks Dec 04 12:31:47 fon-foundation ? Dec 04 12:32:05 for? Dec 04 12:32:11 I'm looking for a word which describes the firmware infrastructure on which all these other features run Dec 04 12:32:21 fon-userland Dec 04 12:32:22 fon-ng Dec 04 12:32:22 lol Dec 04 12:32:26 luciland Dec 04 12:32:30 fon.luciland Dec 04 12:32:33 fon-luciland Dec 04 12:32:54 I added fon-openwrt and fon-base Dec 04 12:33:10 hmm - I wouldn't be able to choose between those two Dec 04 12:33:12 I think fon-luciland is not very descriptive Dec 04 12:33:28 and would end up being empty or with a few tickets from the actual developers Dec 04 12:33:38 I agree Dec 04 12:33:46 I don't think fon-openwrt is a good name Dec 04 12:33:47 rwhitby: fon-openwrt -> related to trunk/openwrt and fon-base to trunk/fon Dec 04 12:33:48 :) Dec 04 12:34:05 advanced users won't know which package a file comes from Dec 04 12:34:09 yeah Dec 04 12:34:11 true Dec 04 12:34:31 I still think fon-base-firmware Dec 04 12:34:33 fon-not-sure Dec 04 12:34:33 lol Dec 04 12:35:08 fon-base-functions Dec 04 12:35:18 base-firmware is fine Dec 04 12:35:41 sweet Dec 04 12:36:58 done Dec 04 12:37:09 is adding a firewall entry to forward port 22 to 192.168.10.1 expected to work for ssh access from wan? Dec 04 12:37:21 yes Dec 04 12:37:27 but Dec 04 12:37:37 mmm Dec 04 12:37:39 it doesn't seem to. Dec 04 12:37:39 but nothing Dec 04 12:37:43 weird Dec 04 12:37:46 let me test it Dec 04 12:38:54 it goes into zone_wan_forward instead of input_wan Dec 04 12:39:03 so iptables doesn't allow it. Dec 04 12:39:15 need to special case the lan ip address Dec 04 12:40:36 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/7 Dec 04 12:41:17 good bug finder ;) Dec 04 12:41:44 I told you I was doing my "dumb user" impersonation ... Dec 04 12:42:42 so is a "build all packages" expected to work with current svn? Dec 04 12:43:17 hmmm can't help you with that, I have no clue of the internals of the buildtree... Dec 04 12:43:27 blogic or nbd might help you Dec 04 12:43:33 ok, I'll let you know when I wake up tomorrow :-) Dec 04 12:43:38 hehe Dec 04 12:43:40 good Dec 04 12:43:52 did jordi get back to you with the documents? Dec 04 12:44:07 or waiting for them yet? Dec 04 12:44:16 (I have an open ticket here for that :P) Dec 04 12:44:18 iurgi: got them, thanks Dec 04 12:44:25 oh, great Dec 04 12:44:27 I close it Dec 04 12:44:27 :) Dec 04 12:44:36 btw... Dec 04 12:44:46 if you know about usb and drivers and stuff... Dec 04 12:44:46 pity there is no discretes on the board for the other ports. Dec 04 12:45:01 you'd be greatly honoredif you could find an explanation for the USB 1.1 not working Dec 04 12:45:02 no, don't know enough to help debug the 1.1 issue Dec 04 12:45:04 :) Dec 04 12:45:07 ok Dec 04 12:45:28 oh, that reminds me. I need to test my 2.0 BT dongle again without a hub. Dec 04 12:45:28 ges, not even the manufacturer and atheros are of any help Dec 04 12:45:45 s/ges/geez/ Dec 04 12:50:32 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/8 Dec 04 12:52:29 ok Dec 04 12:52:30 nice one Dec 04 12:52:31 thanks Dec 04 12:53:32 hmmm Dec 04 12:53:42 it won't disappear if you delete ther rule, right? Dec 04 12:53:43 * rwhitby wonders what causes ftp and printer services to be included in the fw gui page, but not the ssh service ... Dec 04 12:53:59 it does, and I added that to the ticket already Dec 04 12:53:59 rwhitby: ssh should be there if you're in developer mode Dec 04 12:54:08 rwhitby: ok Dec 04 12:54:27 option dev 1 Dec 04 12:54:38 but no ssh on http://192.168.10.1/luci/fon_admin/fon_fw Dec 04 12:54:44 hmmm Dec 04 12:54:53 worked yesterday for me... diffrent image though Dec 04 12:55:06 you're right Dec 04 12:55:27 weird Dec 04 12:55:34 /etc/config/services seems to be ok for ssh Dec 04 12:55:41 where is the luci code which produces those pages? Dec 04 12:56:19 dunno Dec 04 12:56:29 * iurgi is new to luci Dec 04 12:56:57 * rwhitby does a find | xargs grep ... Dec 04 12:57:15 /usr/lib/lua/luci/{model,controller,view} Dec 04 12:58:14 xMff: thanks Dec 04 12:58:30 if not(v.key == "ssh" and dev ~= "1") then Dec 04 12:59:06 is it a problem that dev is defined later in that file? Dec 04 12:59:29 rwhitby: can you tell me the path? Dec 04 12:59:48 in /usr/lib/lua/luci/view/fon_fw/services.htm Dec 04 13:00:50 yes Dec 04 13:01:10 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/browser/trunk/luci/applications/luci-fonfw/luasrc/view/fon_fw/services.htm L19-20 need to be moved up Dec 04 13:01:22 yep Dec 04 13:01:28 right before L8 Dec 04 13:01:35 yes, just tested that and it works Dec 04 13:01:44 we need svn on the device so I can create a patch :-) Dec 04 13:02:36 :) Dec 04 13:03:01 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/9 Dec 04 13:04:09 I think that invalidates ticket #7. Dec 04 13:04:35 yup Dec 04 13:05:10 actually 7 should change so that the web interface gives an immediate error if you specify the router lan IP address in the firewall gui table Dec 04 13:05:38 8 can be solved with uci validation Dec 04 13:05:47 right Dec 04 13:05:51 but it would be better to detect and support that case, so devs can forward, for example, port 2222 to ssh Dec 04 13:06:12 so, with 7, nw, you mean that forwarding to the private LAN IP address should be detected before saving Dec 04 13:06:16 right? Dec 04 13:06:41 I would like that to be detected and a more appropriate config entry written to /etc/config/firewall Dec 04 13:06:59 well, redirect and forward could be treated differently Dec 04 13:06:59 yes Dec 04 13:07:00 rather than excluding that useful boundary condition Dec 04 13:07:03 I see what you mean Dec 04 13:07:34 so enable rules for forwarding (to other boxes inside the lan) and redirect (different port on the same box) Dec 04 13:07:37 is that it? Dec 04 13:07:57 afaik redirect need more iptables modules, at least on openwrt Dec 04 13:08:15 not sure about fon firmware Dec 04 13:08:29 xMff: lots of ipt stuff loaded Dec 04 13:08:42 is ipt_REDIRECT present? Dec 04 13:08:53 yep Dec 04 13:08:57 fine Dec 04 13:08:59 and 36 other related kernel modules Dec 04 13:09:05 hehe Dec 04 13:09:18 TARPIT, .... Dec 04 13:09:30 that one is nice Dec 04 13:09:49 TARPIT? Dec 04 13:09:51 what is it for? Dec 04 13:10:26 http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1723 Dec 04 13:11:04 scroll down to "Putting it to work" Dec 04 13:11:48 hiii Dec 04 13:13:30 * rwhitby considers how the fon fw page could be changed to support custom -j actions Dec 04 13:13:56 I think that's more an issue of the underlying uci firewall framework Dec 04 13:13:59 xMff: are you a security maniac? Dec 04 13:14:10 well, I think it's a matter of usability Dec 04 13:14:10 iurgi: not at all :) Dec 04 13:14:17 end users would never understand it Dec 04 13:14:32 iurgi: it's just a funny iptables mod Dec 04 13:14:38 yeah, I was thinking of some way so end users wouldn't notice, but devs could use it :-) Dec 04 13:14:50 like the port forward 2222 to router lan ip Dec 04 13:15:38 rwhitby: maybe a pluigin? "Advanced firewall" Dec 04 13:15:39 :) Dec 04 13:15:57 yeah a textbox for iptables commands :D Dec 04 13:16:04 dang. dropbear still doesn't do agent forwarding :-( Dec 04 13:16:21 and no opkg to easily install openssh-client. Dec 04 13:16:43 there was a post somewhere in the fon boards that axplained howto install opkg Dec 04 13:17:00 yeah, I could use tar and such, but too lazy at 11:45pm :-) Dec 04 13:17:03 you probably can get opkg and the decpendencies from openwrt Dec 04 13:17:05 and install it? Dec 04 13:17:09 lol Dec 04 13:17:10 ok Dec 04 13:17:14 guys, out for lunch Dec 04 13:17:14 I already have them built locally :-) Dec 04 13:17:17 cya later Dec 04 13:17:55 http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/F2_MgtConsole_tweaks#opkg Dec 04 13:18:01 well, I think I've done my share of bug reporting for the night, so catch you guys later Dec 04 13:20:18 hmm - no /etc/config/dropbear by default to turn off password authentication in deference to keys only. Dec 04 13:22:43 ok, does /etc/config/services take options for the command that is run? Dec 04 13:23:51 ugh - lua scripts are binary-ish Dec 04 13:28:40 hmm - luci fails to build on ubuntu 8.04.1 Dec 04 13:28:47 /bin/sh: line 1: 4707 Segmentation fault luac -s -o $i $i Dec 04 13:29:20 change the target to full source in menuconf Dec 04 13:29:26 as work around Dec 04 13:30:33 Admiistration -> LuCI Libraries -> Build Target Dec 04 13:31:10 Luci -> ... in fon buildsystem Dec 04 13:31:12 thx Dec 04 13:31:50 * rwhitby restarts build and heads to bed Dec 04 14:22:25 back Dec 04 14:34:16 iurgi \o/ Dec 04 14:35:30 what? Dec 04 14:38:56 welcome back :) Dec 04 14:44:47 ah Dec 04 14:44:49 :D Dec 04 14:44:50 tnx Dec 04 14:45:09 did anyone test old bugs from sylvester in alfred? Dec 04 18:12:30 http://python.org/download/releases/3.0/ Dec 04 19:35:11 well.. seems like the new image is perfect Dec 04 19:35:22 good job blogic. no more bug reports in all day Dec 04 19:35:24 !! Dec 04 19:35:25 lol Dec 04 19:40:42 iurgi: :) Dec 04 19:42:11 XD Dec 04 19:51:01 blogic: did you send iurgi the workaround patch for the fonera+ madwifi hotplug issue? Dec 04 19:52:15 ? new one? Dec 04 19:52:28 or the one he committed using the patches from the fonera2? Dec 04 19:55:09 where can i download the new image from today? Dec 04 19:55:55 kazwo: bllog Dec 04 19:55:56 blog Dec 04 19:56:06 remember to reboot after flashing Dec 04 19:56:51 thanks :) Dec 04 19:57:05 google reader dont updates the blog entry *grml* ^^ Dec 04 19:57:20 :) Dec 04 21:28:49 Hi all Dec 04 21:29:27 I have flash with redboot Dec 04 22:13:56 anyone able to help me access my FON2.0 again!? Dec 04 22:14:16 what happened to it? Dec 04 22:14:20 I flashed it yesterday with Alfred, and haven't got SSH anymore Dec 04 22:14:35 and can't find any .fon file to reflash it with Dec 04 22:14:42 * RHarmsen knows it was a bug in the release Dec 04 22:25:34 gr.. even the reset button won't bring me back Dec 04 22:37:26 I am not even getting in RedBoot :s Dec 04 22:37:27 :( Dec 04 22:41:45 hm... seems a problem with Vista.. XP --> Redboot goes fine Dec 04 22:46:08 hi guys Dec 04 22:46:31 I need some help with Redboot Dec 04 22:46:58 i tried to upgrade the firmware Dec 04 22:47:11 but impossible to load the loader.bin Dec 04 22:47:44 i put details here: http://boards.fon.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=4665 Dec 04 23:07:58 morning Dec 04 23:12:17 rwhitby: morning Dec 04 23:15:14 Yoopo why do you need to flash loader? Dec 04 23:15:15 morning rwhitby Dec 04 23:16:05 Yoopo already left! Dec 04 23:16:14 ops Dec 04 23:16:19 poor guy Dec 04 23:16:23 nobody helped him Dec 04 23:16:37 anyone know why so many people think they have to flash the loader? Dec 04 23:16:43 is it said somewhere? Dec 04 23:16:49 well he left 2 in 2 mins.. so Dec 04 23:16:58 iurgi: it's in the manual Dec 04 23:17:15 * RHarmsen_ did flash the loader just 30 min ago Dec 04 23:17:49 but i have SSH access back :D Dec 04 23:18:43 wanted to try to load some USB WIFI hardware, but it is getting to late now Dec 04 23:24:02 anyone left? Dec 05 01:06:19 * rwhitby wonders why the fon-ng svn has all the other openwrt target code in it ... Dec 05 01:07:23 (as opposed to just the bits that fon needs to change in the temporary period that it's not just using a branch from the official openwrt repository ...) Dec 05 02:56:19 is ftp still not working? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 05 02:59:58 2008