**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 08 02:59:57 2008
Dec 08 15:36:56 <itona> ctrl-c does not stop redboot??
Dec 08 15:44:12 <iurgi> it does
Dec 08 15:44:20 <iurgi> in the proper moment
Dec 08 15:44:30 <iurgi> there's only a 2 second window for it
Dec 08 16:02:25 <blogic> itona:
Dec 08 16:02:36 <blogic> can you type on the shell when the syste is booted ?
Dec 08 16:02:55 <blogic> itona: otherwise make sure flow controll is disabled in your serial settings
Dec 08 16:03:57 <iurgi> itona: are you using serial or telnet?
Dec 08 16:11:00 <barbon> hello!
Dec 08 16:12:19 <barbon> when bridge mode will be implemented? :D
Dec 08 16:22:49 <itona> im using telnet mode... telnet connection from ubuntu system...
Dec 08 16:23:03 <itona> but ctrl-c shows only ^C
Dec 08 16:23:11 <itona> and nothing happens
Dec 08 16:29:08 <iurgi> seems like you're doing it too late
Dec 08 16:29:17 <iurgi> are you following the instructions?
Dec 08 16:30:43 <itona> i'm following the instructions from the wiki...
Dec 08 16:31:03 <itona> but with a while true - loop and fping...
Dec 08 16:32:15 <itona> @iurgi when do you think the .fon image will be available? With the .fon i might be able to unbrick the fonera without redboot...
Dec 08 16:33:34 <xMff> n nicht, sauber isser aber teils auch extream bloated
Dec 08 16:36:44 <itona> @xMff: auf was beziehst du dich?
Dec 08 16:37:02 <xMff> oops sorry
Dec 08 16:37:07 <xMff> wrong channel ^^
Dec 08 16:37:26 <xMff> Now I know where the other half of my sentence is gone
Dec 08 16:50:52 <itona> iurgi: any ideas when to release the new .fon?
Dec 08 16:51:24 <itona> 1 day - 1 week - 1 month? just a rough idea...
Dec 08 16:51:37 <iurgi> hmmm
Dec 08 16:51:41 <iurgi> dunno
Dec 08 16:51:56 <iurgi> the probelm is there sylvester won't accept .fon packages
Dec 08 16:52:11 <iurgi> so upgrade from sylvester to alfred using .fon is impossible
Dec 08 16:52:32 <iurgi> so it's not very interesting to release a .fon that will only work with evil teddy
Dec 08 16:54:54 <itona> hmm... so i got really to learn redboot...
Dec 08 16:55:16 <iurgi> should not be difficult
Dec 08 16:55:23 <iurgi> it's a matter of coordination
Dec 08 16:56:17 <itona> the fonera tells me something like 1.450s to press ctrl-c ... and i never get it...
Dec 08 16:56:37 <iurgi> hmmm
Dec 08 16:56:50 <iurgi> that's weird
Dec 08 16:57:03 <iurgi> what program are u running telnet over?
Dec 08 16:57:12 <iurgi> gnome-terminal?
Dec 08 16:57:20 <itona> ubuntu gnome-terminal ..
Dec 08 16:57:24 <iurgi> hmm
Dec 08 16:57:27 <iurgi> really weird
Dec 08 16:57:43 <itona> perhaps i'm just to slow...
Dec 08 16:57:52 <iurgi> do you press it many times?
Dec 08 16:57:57 <iurgi> maybe
Dec 08 16:58:30 <itona> yes... once i tried it once some other times i tried it with several ^C...
Dec 08 17:00:25 <itona> or any other way to force the fonera not to run a init.d script... (i messed something there up) and finally ssh does no longer work.
Dec 08 17:00:43 <iurgi> resetting, as blogic said should work
Dec 08 17:00:53 <iurgi> boot the fonera, wait for 5min
Dec 08 17:01:01 <iurgi> then press reset for about 15secs
Dec 08 17:01:12 <iurgi> press it firmly, it's a sensitive button
Dec 08 17:01:21 <iurgi> then, don't power off
Dec 08 17:01:33 <iurgi> just wait for it to reboot another 5min
Dec 08 17:01:40 <iurgi> that should do it
Dec 08 17:01:51 <iurgi> if it's only a ini.d problem
Dec 08 17:02:14 <itona> hmm... so perhaps i did not press firmly enough...
Dec 08 17:02:38 <iurgi> maybe
Dec 08 17:03:12 <itona> i wait until its fully booted up ... then press reset firmly about 15-30s ... and wait again...
Dec 08 17:03:44 <itona> last time i had the impression that pressing the reset button does not work... cuz nothing really happened...
Dec 08 17:03:55 <iurgi> well, it works
Dec 08 17:04:02 <iurgi> at least for me
Dec 08 17:04:18 <iurgi> unless you've unwillingly broken the process that watches for the reset
Dec 08 17:05:23 <itona> i ve just added a script that starts mpd and tries to add some mp3s into the playlist...
Dec 08 17:05:40 <itona> after this ssh was blocked... i dont know why...
Dec 08 17:06:14 <iurgi> weird
Dec 08 17:06:32 <iurgi> maybe the script doesn't finish properly
Dec 08 17:06:36 <iurgi> or blocks the fonera
Dec 08 17:06:49 <iurgi> and the process that handles reset was meant to boot after your script?
Dec 08 17:07:38 <itona> yes... this might be the reason...
Dec 08 17:08:39 <itona> how may i see if the reset really resets - power stays yellow... wireless green... nothing else
Dec 08 17:09:12 <itona> but the web interface works so far...
Dec 08 17:11:15 <iurgi> well, had you modified the ssid or wpa password or any other setting?
Dec 08 17:11:20 <iurgi> see if they were reset
Dec 08 17:11:38 <itona> no... i didn't change...
Dec 08 17:11:56 <iurgi> well, does ssh work?
Dec 08 17:13:38 <itona> no... ssh root@192.168.10.1 drops the connection immediately (cable and MySpace)
Dec 08 17:16:06 <iurgi> I can't figure our what's happening
Dec 08 17:16:54 <itona> so i retry the redboot procedure... I'll be off ... thanks anyway for your ideas!!!
Dec 08 17:16:57 <itona> cu
Dec 08 17:18:14 <iurgi> no prob
Dec 08 17:18:16 <iurgi> good luck
Dec 08 17:40:13 <itona> hmm... no success...
Dec 08 17:40:53 <itona> but if i connect to wireless (MyPlace) and try to ping la fonera it tells me:  ping fonera
Dec 08 17:40:53 <itona> PING fonera.lan (192.168.10.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
Dec 08 17:40:53 <itona> 64 bytes from registerlafonera.fon.com (192.168.10.1): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.11 ms
Dec 08 17:40:58 <itona> why this??
Dec 08 17:41:09 <itona> or might it help us?
Dec 08 17:47:35 <blogic> itona: try command line telnet
Dec 08 17:47:51 <blogic> telnet 192.168.10.1
Dec 08 17:47:59 <blogic> or what ever the ip is
Dec 08 17:48:07 <blogic> its not that now that i think about it
Dec 08 17:48:08 <blogic> :)
Dec 08 17:48:11 <itona> gets dropped as well..
Dec 08 17:48:44 <blogic> local firewall ?
Dec 08 17:55:41 <itona> no...
Dec 08 17:56:53 <itona> and again the redboot problem...
Dec 08 17:56:56 <itona> ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.254;while true; do fping -t 100 192.168.1.1 && break; done; telnet 192.168.1.1 9000192.168.1.1 is unreachable
Dec 08 17:56:56 <itona> 192.168.1.1 is unreachable
Dec 08 17:56:56 <itona> 192.168.1.1 is unreachable
Dec 08 17:56:56 <itona> 192.168.1.1 is unreachable
Dec 08 17:56:56 <itona> 192.168.1.1 is unreachable
Dec 08 17:56:58 <itona> 192.168.1.1 is unreachable
Dec 08 17:57:00 <itona> 192.168.1.1 is unreachable
Dec 08 17:57:02 <itona> 192.168.1.1 is unreachable
Dec 08 17:57:04 <itona> 192.168.1.1 is unreachable
Dec 08 17:57:06 <itona> 192.168.1.1 is alive
Dec 08 17:57:10 <itona> Trying 192.168.1.1...
Dec 08 17:57:12 <itona> Connected to 192.168.1.1.
Dec 08 17:57:14 <itona> Escape character is '^]'.
Dec 08 17:57:16 <itona> == Executing boot script in 1.410 seconds - enter ^C to abort
Dec 08 17:57:18 <itona> ^C^C^C
Dec 08 17:57:20 <itona> ^C
Dec 08 17:57:22 <itona> ^Z
Dec 08 17:57:28 <itona> in a gnome-terminal
Dec 08 17:58:10 <CyrusFF> itona: i remember having similar problems with the old fonera, using putty worked for me
Dec 08 17:59:25 <itona> but putty is win* and i've only linux...
Dec 08 17:59:43 <xMff> there's also putty for unix
Dec 08 17:59:47 <CyrusFF> i've only linux too
Dec 08 18:00:27 <CyrusFF> its in the debian repos
Dec 08 18:00:52 <itona> ok...  about to install ;)
Dec 08 18:03:00 <itona> and which tftp server did u use under linux? (easy to use...)
Dec 08 18:03:10 <CyrusFF> i used http
Dec 08 18:03:33 <CyrusFF> don't know if this still works for fonera 2.0
Dec 08 18:03:44 <itona> ok im off and about to try... thanks so far...
Dec 08 18:16:58 <itona_> hmm... with putty no problem...
Dec 08 18:17:28 <itona_> but before flashing some questions:
Dec 08 18:18:08 <itona_> is the code from wiki.fon.com really okay for fonera 2?
Dec 08 18:22:03 <itona_> hmm
Dec 08 18:22:21 <itona_>  is the code from wiki.fon.com really okay for fonera 2?
Dec 08 18:22:36 <itona_> do i really have to change the "boot script"...
Dec 08 18:22:52 <itona_> or is there any "longtext" redboot howto?
Dec 08 18:47:05 <itona_> in order to reflash my alfred to alfred do i have to change the script from the forum?
Dec 08 18:47:35 <itona_> do i really have to edit  the boot script
Dec 08 18:47:37 <itona_> ?
Dec 08 19:04:11 <itona_> I've posted my question on the mailinglist... And would be very grateful for an answer... (plz! plz!)
Dec 08 19:07:40 <itona_> bye
Dec 08 19:16:00 <TeigneuX> Hi all
Dec 08 19:16:23 <TeigneuX> just wanna know how to add ssh opening on wan
Dec 08 19:16:26 <TeigneuX> on the new rel
Dec 08 19:16:39 <TeigneuX> cause fwalldaemon is not readable
Dec 08 19:16:44 <TeigneuX> human readable
Dec 08 19:24:27 <blogic> TeigneuX: 1 sec
Dec 08 19:24:46 <TeigneuX> ok
Dec 08 19:25:23 <blogic> TeigneuX: it is supposed to work. i added it becasue u asked for it
Dec 08 19:25:26 <blogic> but there is a bug
Dec 08 19:25:27 <blogic> :)
Dec 08 19:25:35 <blogic> so you have to wait anohter few days
Dec 08 19:26:34 <TeigneuX> ok
Dec 08 19:26:37 <TeigneuX> no prob
Dec 08 19:26:48 <TeigneuX> I hope my F2 won't reboot
Dec 08 19:26:55 <blogic> ok
Dec 08 19:26:56 <TeigneuX> Have you seen my ticket
Dec 08 19:27:03 <blogic> yes
Dec 08 19:27:03 <TeigneuX> on ftp opening ?
Dec 08 19:27:05 <TeigneuX> :-)
Dec 08 19:27:10 <blogic> i fixed this also
Dec 08 19:27:11 <blogic> :)
Dec 08 19:27:12 <blogic> thx
Dec 08 19:27:15 <TeigneuX> Ahhh
Dec 08 19:27:23 <TeigneuX> that's smell good
Dec 08 19:27:32 <blogic> we are getting really close to a release
Dec 08 19:27:39 <blogic> i have finished the translation system
Dec 08 19:27:44 <TeigneuX> pffiouuu
Dec 08 19:27:45 <blogic> and added a reboot button :)
Dec 08 19:27:46 <TeigneuX> rapido !
Dec 08 19:27:49 <TeigneuX> lol
Dec 08 19:27:52 <blogic> and some other stuff
Dec 08 19:28:04 <TeigneuX> what a progress
Dec 08 19:28:10 <blogic> well
Dec 08 19:28:13 <TeigneuX> I will wait ;-)
Dec 08 19:28:15 <blogic> wanna be done by xmas :)
Dec 08 19:28:17 <blogic> thx
Dec 08 19:28:19 <TeigneuX> lol
Dec 08 19:28:26 <TeigneuX> so you can have holidays
Dec 08 19:28:39 <TeigneuX> these are deserved for all the staff
Dec 08 19:29:00 <blogic> hehe
Dec 08 19:29:55 <TeigneuX> I won't bother you till next rel so have a good night and see ya
Dec 08 19:32:38 <blogic> lol
Dec 08 19:32:39 <blogic> :)
Dec 08 19:38:46 <TeigneuX> is the RC faster ?
Dec 08 19:39:00 <TeigneuX> I dl @200kB/s
Dec 08 19:40:41 <blogic> dunnp
Dec 08 19:40:47 <blogic> iurgi odes measurements
Dec 08 19:42:35 <TeigneuX> ok
Dec 08 19:49:16 <TeigneuX> blogic: still here ?
Dec 08 19:49:47 <blogic> yes
Dec 08 19:51:09 <TeigneuX> got a little prob
Dec 08 19:51:17 <TeigneuX> I 've installed wput
Dec 08 19:51:32 <TeigneuX> no prob for the old rel
Dec 08 19:51:54 <TeigneuX>  telnet hd1.freebox.fr 21
Dec 08 19:51:54 <TeigneuX> 220 Welcome to Freebox FTP Server.
Dec 08 19:51:54 <TeigneuX> USER freebox
Dec 08 19:51:54 <TeigneuX> 331 User name okay, need password.
Dec 08 19:51:58 <TeigneuX> no prob
Dec 08 19:51:59 <TeigneuX> but
Dec 08 19:52:20 <TeigneuX> wput backup-dedi.tar.gz ftp://freebox:XXXXX@hd1.freebox.fr/LaCie/backup-dedi.tar.gz
Dec 08 19:52:27 <TeigneuX> not working
Dec 08 19:52:44 <TeigneuX> Connecting to 212.27.40.254:21... failed!
Dec 08 19:52:44 <TeigneuX> Waiting 10 seconds... Connecting to 212.27.40.254:21... failed!
Dec 08 19:52:49 <blogic> hmm
Dec 08 19:52:50 <TeigneuX> no dns problem
Dec 08 19:52:58 <TeigneuX> But very strange
Dec 08 19:53:02 <TeigneuX> cause telnet work
Dec 08 19:53:06 <TeigneuX> but no wput
Dec 08 19:53:13 <blogic> i will have a look
Dec 08 19:53:22 <TeigneuX> k
Dec 08 20:56:32 <Kyros> hi all
Dec 08 20:59:09 <Kyros> last weekend i tested fonera2 with alfred. now the network settings works so my fonera2 is online again.
Dec 08 21:05:02 <Kyros> does somone have a more detail description how to access ftp from wan-side?
Dec 08 21:07:47 <Kyros> with the first firmware it was possible to access the usb-stick directories from wan side as well to host your own simple website... did someone manage this as well with the new alfred duck firmware?
Dec 08 21:14:19 <blogic> Kyros: there is a bug in alfred, that stops ftp from working
Dec 08 21:14:43 <blogic> do you have a serial cablke ?
Dec 08 21:14:48 <Kyros> thanx for telling me - so I don't try further
Dec 08 21:15:21 <Kyros> in a few days i will receive one.
Dec 08 21:15:47 <blogic> chmod a+x /etc/fonstated/RestartFTP
Dec 08 21:15:53 <blogic> :)
Dec 08 21:16:10 <blogic> and then in the firewall settings you can turn ftp on for wan
Dec 08 21:17:33 <Kyros> and what will be the link then to the ftp direcotories if I have e.g. 192.168.1.3 as static IP on the wan side?
Dec 08 21:19:09 <Kyros> why do I need a serial cable for this? can't I use putty access via SSH and ethernet as well to enter the chmod command?
Dec 08 21:19:57 <blogic> oh
Dec 08 21:20:00 <blogic> use ssh then :)
Dec 08 21:20:05 <blogic> i always use a serial sorry
Dec 08 21:20:29 <Kyros> ok... ;-)
Dec 08 21:26:00 <Kyros> ... what will be the link to access the ftp direcotories
Dec 08 21:26:59 <Kyros> ?
Dec 08 21:27:55 <blogic> ?
Dec 08 21:28:03 <blogic> i dont get the question
Dec 08 21:32:12 <Kyros> ftp://link_from_external_to_the_ftp_directory/luci/fon_devices/fon_browser/Disc-A1
Dec 08 21:32:20 <Kyros> something like this
Dec 08 21:32:34 <blogic> ftp://link_from_external_to_the_ftp_directory/Disc-A1
Dec 08 21:34:09 <Kyros> thanx
Dec 08 21:35:38 <kazwo> meinst? also ich denke diese nacktscanner bringen gar nichts. die terroristen müssen sich doch nur nen dicken bauch anfressen, dann verstecken sie einfach alles unter der bauchfalte. also praktisch terror sponsort by mc d and burger k
Dec 08 21:36:08 <Kyros> ???
Dec 08 21:36:20 <kazwo> errr ... ignore me
Dec 08 21:36:32 <Kyros> I will
Dec 08 21:37:51 <CyrusFF> kazwo: lol
Dec 08 21:38:06 <Kyros> @ blogic: Is there away to http:// access the media directories from outside as well?
Dec 08 21:39:28 <blogic> yes
Dec 08 21:39:40 <blogic> using the next release, there is a firewall option for this
Dec 08 21:41:40 <Kyros> fine
Dec 08 21:43:00 <Kyros> is it already in a svn included?
Dec 08 22:24:57 <Kyros> FTP sharing works now - Thanx
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