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Dec 20 09:50:52 <voorstad> * running fon_ng2.0 :-) (the elefont)
Dec 20 09:57:08 <voorstad> one issue: connecting the fonero via wifi to the internet (wifi bridge) seems not working. When set, MyPlace is gone.....
Dec 20 10:06:38 <kiberiada> Has anyone installed dyndns of fon2?
Dec 20 11:22:38 <mib_z05ktd> x
Dec 20 12:53:40 <kazwo> good morning
Dec 20 12:53:45 <blogic> lo
Dec 20 12:54:39 <kazwo> someone sells a fon2100 or fon2200? :D
Dec 20 12:55:15 <blogic> yes
Dec 20 12:55:16 <blogic> fon.com
Dec 20 12:55:37 <CyrusFF> lol
Dec 20 12:55:40 <kazwo> :P
Dec 20 12:56:18 <kazwo> to long delivery
Dec 20 12:56:20 <kazwo> :P
Dec 20 12:56:39 <blogic> ?
Dec 20 12:57:21 <kazwo> every time a bought one it needs 2 - 3 weeks to deliver
Dec 20 12:57:57 <CyrusFF> blogic: btw. i finally managed to compile the image from trunk, somehow it works when I use svn instead of git to checkout fonosfera oO
Dec 20 12:59:05 <blogic> haha
Dec 20 14:55:51 <kazwo> lets burn the house down!
Dec 20 14:55:58 <xMff> not yet
Dec 20 14:56:07 <kazwo> but
Dec 20 14:56:17 <kazwo> i want it
Dec 20 14:56:33 <xMff> take your neighbours house :P
Dec 20 14:56:44 <kazwo> good idea!
Dec 20 14:56:45 <kazwo> brb
Dec 20 17:35:51 <kazwo> i want chocolate!
Dec 20 19:48:42 <tomek> hallo @ all.. the fon-shop says that the fonera 2.0 beta is only for developters... is it really true?
Dec 20 19:48:48 <tomek> *hello
Dec 20 19:51:03 <blogic> well
Dec 20 19:51:12 <blogic> its a developer system
Dec 20 19:51:22 <blogic> but the final firmware will be released on monday
Dec 20 19:51:35 <blogic> so, i guess it is not developer only anymore
Dec 20 19:51:44 <blogic> but not sure what the official position is
Dec 20 19:51:56 <blogic> you can send a mail to iurgi@fon.com he can tell you more
Dec 20 19:52:14 <voorstad> hi blogic, Tantor the Elefont is working like a charm!
Dec 20 19:52:43 <blogic> voorstad: yes
Dec 20 19:52:51 <blogic> wifi-wan needs a reboot :)
Dec 20 19:53:01 <blogic> voorstad: set it up and then power cycle
Dec 20 19:53:14 <blogic> voorstad: MyPlace will not work until the station is associated
Dec 20 19:53:29 <blogic> voorstad: happy you like it :)
Dec 20 19:53:39 <blogic> but i fixed 2 more mini bugs
Dec 20 19:53:50 <blogic> so you should upgrade, when iurgi releases the signed images
Dec 20 19:53:57 <blogic> i am building the release images right now
Dec 20 19:58:41 <voorstad> I haven't checked, but my friend needs to clone the MAC address. Is this possible?
Dec 20 19:59:16 <voorstad> A major cable internet supplier in NL (UPC) is filtering on Mac address
Dec 20 20:04:00 <tomek> thanks blogic
Dec 20 20:04:17 <tomek> is there a way to get the modem cheaper?^^
Dec 20 20:04:55 <kazwo> yes, a cheap fon1.0 for kazwo :D
Dec 20 20:09:57 <tomek> do you thought about developting software on Nokia-Internet-Tablets? (maemo.org) :)
Dec 20 20:43:23 <blogic> tomek: what modem
Dec 20 20:43:34 <blogic> tomek: why would i want to use nokia braindamage ? :)
Dec 20 20:43:48 <blogic> nokia is extremely opensource unfriendly, iw ould not want to support them
Dec 20 20:46:19 <tomek> opensource unfriendly? the next os (os2009) will be 100% opensource.. i don't even think that this is "unfriendly".. ;)
Dec 20 20:49:09 <blogic> makeing opensource and working with community is different
Dec 20 20:49:18 <blogic> microsoft had a linux distro 2 years ago
Dec 20 20:49:36 <blogic> nokia definatley needs an attitude adjustment before people take them seriuos
Dec 20 20:49:43 <blogic> plus, the n810 is brain damage
Dec 20 20:50:02 <blogic> the lcd is too big, causing the almighty omap cpu to not be able to use the hw-accel gfx
Dec 20 20:51:24 <tomek> you aren't so wrong.. the canola project (http://openbossa.indt.org/canola/) is just unable to make the hole programm opensource.. why? - i don't know.. thats makes me even sad :|
Dec 20 20:51:59 <blogic> indeed
Dec 20 20:54:33 <tomek> the biggest thing thats make me sad is that i'm programming in python and i'm really interested in making GUI's and i wanted to see how they made it in their project, but: closed source - closed doors to lern somethink new...
Dec 20 20:54:36 <tomek> -.-'
Dec 20 20:54:36 <blogic> although i have to say, i love my n800
Dec 20 20:54:46 <blogic> lol
Dec 20 20:54:50 <tomek> I have one too
Dec 20 20:54:51 <blogic> ->brain damage
Dec 20 20:54:53 <tomek> ^^
Dec 20 20:55:04 <blogic> fon is opensource, apart from the stuff we use for heartbeat
Dec 20 21:02:14 <tomek> with which programming languages is fon working?
Dec 20 21:02:18 <tomek> c++?
Dec 20 21:02:21 <blogic> lol
Dec 20 21:02:23 <blogic> c++ ?
Dec 20 21:02:24 <blogic> no way
Dec 20 21:02:27 <blogic> c and lua
Dec 20 21:02:34 <blogic> c++ is too slow
Dec 20 21:02:38 <blogic> and too big
Dec 20 21:02:47 <tomek> lua!?
Dec 20 21:02:55 <tomek> never heard about that..
Dec 20 21:03:04 <blogic> its a powerfull script language
Dec 20 21:03:13 <blogic> kinda what python and java always wanted to be
Dec 20 21:03:21 <blogic> its used in most modern pc games
Dec 20 21:03:22 <tomek> xD
Dec 20 21:03:31 <blogic> WoW uses lua
Dec 20 21:05:47 <tomek> is scripting easy as in python?
Dec 20 21:06:14 <blogic> much easier
Dec 20 21:06:31 <tomek> really?!
Dec 20 21:06:57 * blogic does not like python
Dec 20 21:07:39 * tomek but tomek don't know why..
Dec 20 21:08:12 <tomek> *
Dec 20 21:08:14 * tomek don't know why...
Dec 20 21:37:16 <kazwo> "Die Hardware des Rechners hat sich geändert! Bitte installieren Sie wieder die ursprüngliche Konfiguration!" "Bitte führen Sie ein Update der Lizenzdatei durch" ... closed source sux ...
Dec 20 21:40:38 <blogic> kazwo: ?
Dec 20 21:40:42 <blogic> wo kommt das her ?
Dec 20 21:40:49 <blogic> XP ?
Dec 20 21:41:09 <kazwo> cad software ...
Dec 20 21:41:18 <blogic> eagle ?
Dec 20 21:41:33 <kazwo> nemetschek allplan
Dec 20 21:41:40 <blogic> ah ja
Dec 20 21:41:51 <tomek> autocad inventor roxx^^
Dec 20 21:42:02 * tomek benutzt es schulisch
Dec 20 21:42:14 * tomek ist für 15mins weg
Dec 20 21:44:45 <kazwo> autocad architecture benutze ich privat auch lieber, aber für die schule brauch ich nemetschek, naja muss ich montag zum xten mal die hotline anrufen ..
Dec 20 21:46:38 <kazwo> inventor hab ich mal in ner vorführung gesehen. ein sehr geniales stück software :)
Dec 20 21:49:15 <tomek> naja schonen abend noch.. man sieht sich noch..
Dec 20 21:49:22 <blogic> ok
Dec 20 21:49:27 * blogic winkt
Dec 20 21:49:36 <kazwo> bye :)
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