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Dec 22 09:53:26 <thopiekar> moin
Dec 22 09:56:11 <iurgi> hi
Dec 22 10:30:04 <kazwo> hi
Dec 22 10:30:15 <kazwo> its mee :D
Dec 22 10:57:43 <strike01> hi
Dec 22 10:58:12 <strike01> is there any tutorial to make your own plugins for the fonera?
Dec 22 10:58:57 <iurgi> hi strike01: not yet
Dec 22 10:58:57 <iurgi> sorry
Dec 22 10:59:09 <iurgi> we've been very busy finalising the firmware
Dec 22 10:59:14 <strike01> well i will wait
Dec 22 10:59:19 <iurgi> but there are a few people aroung that can be helpful
Dec 22 10:59:19 <strike01> Elefont is comin out?
Dec 22 10:59:43 <iurgi> SoukoussMan, sylvainzimmer and others have already written plugins of their own
Dec 22 10:59:47 <iurgi> yes, it's coming out
Dec 22 10:59:49 <iurgi> VERY VERY soon
Dec 22 10:59:50 <iurgi> ;)
Dec 22 11:00:00 <strike01> mmm i cant wait for it
Dec 22 11:00:26 <iurgi> :)
Dec 22 11:00:51 <strike01> i'm trylling to make my final project to my university
Dec 22 11:01:31 <strike01> and i will be here for some help
Dec 22 11:02:04 <iurgi> sure
Dec 22 11:02:08 <iurgi> you're more than welcome
Dec 22 11:02:11 <iurgi> we love this projects
Dec 22 11:02:15 <iurgi> any ideas of what you wanna do?
Dec 22 11:03:03 <strike01> the project  is not defined yet but will be a  multimedia plugin i think
Dec 22 11:03:36 <kazwo> ultra fast pr0n side browsing \o/
Dec 22 11:04:35 <strike01> well, i try to define it and I return for some help
Dec 22 11:04:47 <strike01> thanks for all , and see you soon :)
Dec 22 11:25:52 <Kyros> hi all
Dec 22 11:32:00 <Kyros> <I have a question for FTP-service: I there a way to have more than one user simultaneousely connectd to the service?
Dec 22 11:34:49 <iurgi> hmmm
Dec 22 11:34:50 <iurgi> no idea
Dec 22 11:34:53 <iurgi> haven't tried it
Dec 22 11:35:01 <iurgi> probably you can enable it using command line
Dec 22 11:35:07 <iurgi> but not from the web ui
Dec 22 11:53:58 <Kyros> >... and iurgi is wearing a skirt ---???--> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmKc3-0ZKio
Dec 22 11:54:09 <Kyros> ;-)
Dec 22 12:05:36 <iurgi> :)
Dec 22 12:07:21 <Kyros> > RC2 is out -> Tantor the Elefont ---> @ iurgi: could you please provide a link to an .image file - I would really like to test Tantor.
Dec 22 12:15:02 <iurgi> nope :(
Dec 22 12:15:04 <iurgi> XD
Dec 22 12:15:09 <iurgi> I have something better than that
Dec 22 12:15:15 <iurgi> in a few hours
Dec 22 12:23:43 * iurgi is happy
Dec 22 12:34:18 <Kyros> ok - so let's wait pationed for the surprise...
Dec 22 12:40:49 <iurgi> it's worth waiting ;)
Dec 22 12:41:01 <iurgi> at least I think it is
Dec 22 13:09:09 <TeigneuX> Hi all
Dec 22 13:09:42 <TeigneuX> so like Gwen Ste "What are you waiting for ?" :-)
Dec 22 13:38:51 <Kyros> Waiting for the Elefont (or Elephant) ?
Dec 22 14:18:15 * kazwo pokes iurgi
Dec 22 14:18:37 <TeigneuX> lol
Dec 22 14:19:43 <TeigneuX> I wonder if we have the update for our Xmas ;-(
Dec 22 14:19:44 * kazwo is impatiently
Dec 22 14:19:48 * TeigneuX too
Dec 22 15:38:01 * kazwo is squirrelly
Dec 22 17:07:34 <francois_fon_> blogic is FAT ???? a picture, a picture
Dec 22 17:07:58 <francois_fon_> the FONrestaurant is so good ?
Dec 22 17:08:52 <iurgi> LOL
Dec 22 17:09:18 <kazwo> there is no cam that could catch blogic :P
Dec 22 17:11:54 <kazwo> iurgi: is it build.... is it build .... is it build?
Dec 22 17:14:31 <iurgi> dunno
Dec 22 17:14:41 <iurgi> I can just feel the ground trembling
Dec 22 17:14:44 <francois_fon_> ouch 146 comments http://www.korben.info/cadeaux-de-noel-une-fonera-2-a-gagner-sur-korbeninfo.html
Dec 22 17:15:46 * francois_fon_ think the fonera2 will be the star of 2009 :) .......... with iurgi of course ;)
Dec 22 17:16:05 <iurgi> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Dec 22 17:16:06 <iurgi> cool
Dec 22 17:16:08 <iurgi> really cool
Dec 22 17:16:14 <iurgi> lol
Dec 22 17:16:22 <iurgi> francois_fon_: you should modify your entry
Dec 22 17:16:28 <iurgi> in a few hours ;)
Dec 22 17:16:38 <francois_fon_> my entry ?
Dec 22 17:16:39 <iurgi> and send the rest to the fon shop :)
Dec 22 17:16:40 <iurgi> lol
Dec 22 17:16:45 <francois_fon_> :)
Dec 22 17:16:50 <iurgi> yeah, to add the good news that's coming ;)
Dec 22 17:17:04 <francois_fon_> ok
Dec 22 17:17:37 <kazwo> hmmmmm
Dec 22 17:18:19 <kazwo> i cant read the text, but there is a blonde and a raven haired girly .. and fon 2.0 .... iam loving it
Dec 22 17:24:03 <iurgi> yeah
Dec 22 17:24:08 <iurgi> happened the same to me
Dec 22 17:24:09 <iurgi> ;)
Dec 22 17:24:30 <francois_fon_> some people like blonde, someone no :))
Dec 22 17:31:19 <kazwo> maybe we can burn a house down now?
Dec 22 17:47:36 <Kyros> @ iurgi - will the elephant grant ssh access by default?
Dec 22 17:49:04 <iurgi> ;)
Dec 22 18:16:05 <iurgi> there you go
Dec 22 18:16:06 <iurgi> :)
Dec 22 18:16:09 <iurgi> enjoy
Dec 22 18:16:16 <iurgi> the christmas present
Dec 22 18:16:20 * kazwo dual flipps
Dec 22 18:16:21 <kazwo> :D
Dec 22 18:20:32 <iurgi> guys, I'm leaving on holidays and so john is
Dec 22 18:20:37 <iurgi> we will come by eventually
Dec 22 18:20:39 <iurgi> from time to time
Dec 22 18:20:48 <iurgi> but don't expect much work on the following days
Dec 22 18:21:02 <iurgi> the image should be stable enough, so please, test it and enjoy it
Dec 22 18:21:13 <iurgi> the new year will come with more nice (very nice) presents
Dec 22 18:21:14 <iurgi> ciao
Dec 22 18:21:27 <iurgi> Merry Christmas and Happy New Year for those who celebrate it
Dec 22 18:24:28 <inouk> \o/
Dec 22 18:24:33 <inouk> yeah
Dec 22 18:30:15 <francois_fon_> happy new year iurgi  ;)
Dec 22 19:29:55 <kazwo>  OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG  .... i love tantor ...
Dec 22 20:19:06 <pablo_bz> inouk: are you _still_ there?
Dec 22 20:19:50 <pablo_bz> kazwo: you will love it more :)
Dec 22 20:21:45 <kazwo> found a bug ^^
Dec 22 20:29:09 <pablo_bz> that is what tantor is for :)
Dec 22 20:30:15 <pablo_bz> explain it :)
Dec 22 20:31:58 <kazwo> i enabled the web interface access via wan (works fine)
Dec 22 20:32:55 <kazwo> but i cannot see the webcam stream from wan because the stream adress is fixed on the private netzwork > <param name="url" value="http://192.168.10.1:8000/?action=stream"/>
Dec 22 20:42:43 <pablo_bz> aaaaaaaaaaaah
Dec 22 20:44:26 <pablo_bz> have you tried http://<thewanaddressfortherouter>/?action=stream
Dec 22 20:44:31 <pablo_bz> ?
Dec 22 20:49:27 <kazwo> http://www.abload.de/img/tantor-wan-webcamqzyh.jpg
Dec 22 20:55:37 <kazwo> http://www.abload.de/img/tantor-wan-webcam-fail4wih.jpg
Dec 22 20:56:10 <kazwo> cant change the html code :/
Dec 22 21:04:41 <pablo_bz> even if you copy it locally?
Dec 22 21:05:23 <pablo_bz> the whole generated page, copied as an static .html via the browser
Dec 22 21:05:29 <pablo_bz> and then changed the ip address?
Dec 22 21:08:00 <iurgi> pablo_bz, kazwo it's a bug
Dec 22 21:08:34 <iurgi> even if you connect to the correct URL, which should work in other circumstances, it will not
Dec 22 21:08:59 <iurgi> since it's a different port (8000) and that one is not open in the firewall
Dec 22 21:09:12 <iurgi> so kazwo, congrats, you found the first bug ;)
Dec 22 21:09:18 <kazwo> yes, if i use a local html port it says conneten refused: connect
Dec 22 21:09:24 <iurgi> now go and fix it yourself, shouldn't be difficult
Dec 22 21:09:26 <iurgi> :)
Dec 22 21:09:37 <iurgi> hehehe
Dec 22 21:09:56 <iurgi> we will fix it in svn as soon as we have the will
Dec 22 21:10:04 <iurgi> I'm already on holiday :D
Dec 22 21:10:08 <kazwo> hrhr
Dec 22 21:10:18 <iurgi> just connected to see if ther was any buzz...
Dec 22 21:10:19 <iurgi> :)
Dec 22 21:10:22 <iurgi> leaving again
Dec 22 21:10:25 <kazwo> its a minor bug
Dec 22 21:10:27 <iurgi> enjoy tantor!
Dec 22 21:10:29 <iurgi> yup
Dec 22 21:10:45 <iurgi> still, I thought it would take longer to find one
Dec 22 21:10:49 <iurgi> bad people...
Dec 22 21:10:51 <kazwo> how can i see the black interface? :D
Dec 22 21:11:36 <iurgi> black?
Dec 22 21:11:45 <iurgi> don't you like the green?
Dec 22 21:12:07 <kazwo> i like the green, but i want to see the black too :)
Dec 22 21:12:11 <iurgi> gotta leave, my brother is kicking me out
Dec 22 21:12:14 <iurgi> hehehe
Dec 22 21:12:15 <iurgi> change it
Dec 22 21:12:40 <iurgi> the css is in /www/luci-statics/fon/ something fonera2.css or fonera2fonosfera.org
Dec 22 21:13:01 <kazwo> do the chuck norris round house kick ... you brother wont kick you anymore :P
Dec 22 21:18:42 <kazwo> if i add "iptables -A input_daemon -p tcp --dport 8000 -j zone_wan_ACCEPT" the local html file works :))
Dec 22 21:24:12 <merlin2> Hi, for the dutch translation i'm making for the FON 2.0, i have a small question... What is exacly "Windows Network Shares" Is it like, Windows Shared Folders? Or do I get it wrong?
Dec 22 21:24:34 <xMff> It's the stuff usually in the network neighbourhood
Dec 22 21:24:52 <xMff> where you can browse folders of other pcs on the lan
Dec 22 21:26:20 <merlin2> ok, so not only folders, but computers, printers, NAS Devices etc.
Dec 22 21:27:53 <xMff> hmm the fonera provides only "folders" afaik
Dec 22 21:27:55 <orazio> hi, what are "fon plugin file" on lafonera2 ? Are there communities project zipped file?
Dec 22 21:31:43 <kazwo> orazio: with a plugin file you can add new functions to the fonera2. this plugins can be from fon or other ppl / communitys
Dec 22 21:32:24 <orazio> kazwo: ok... but is this a plugin? http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/browser/branches/communities/jamendo
Dec 22 21:33:10 <orazio> how can I put this dir as a "plugin file" thorught the graphical interface of the fonera? Should I zip the dir ?
Dec 22 21:34:37 <kazwo> hmmm a test plugin that i have is a *.tar.gz file
Dec 22 21:35:03 <CyrusFF> afaik jamendo hasn't made a plugin file out of their studd
Dec 22 21:35:03 <orazio> could you see if inside there are some dirs like those?
Dec 22 21:35:07 <CyrusFF> *stuff
Dec 22 21:35:28 <orazio> jamendo stuff are very similar to francofon application
Dec 22 21:36:35 <kazwo> orazio: it does not look the same
Dec 22 21:37:49 <kazwo> i think plugins must include a file named "upgrade"
Dec 22 21:38:34 <orazio> I have just create the tar.gz of the jamendo stuff
Dec 22 21:38:49 <orazio> I'll try to give it as a plugin..
Dec 22 21:39:26 <orazio> Failed to verify plugin.
Dec 22 21:40:13 <pablo_bz> iurgi: you went by plane :)
Dec 22 21:49:52 <inouk> orazio, use the porxy plugin from soukoussman as example
Dec 22 21:50:40 <inouk> mailling list archive if you want to find the file
Dec 22 21:51:07 <orazio> inouk: I must create a tar.gz from this directory?
Dec 22 21:54:47 <inouk> orazio, which directory?
Dec 22 21:55:25 <inouk> I meant proxy plungin is the only plugin which has been packaged as a tarball for now
Dec 22 21:55:34 <orazio> this one: http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/browser/branches/communities/francofon/plugins/trunk/proxyredirector
Dec 22 21:56:17 <orazio> I'm just seeing that the jamendo plugin has a python installer: http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/browser/branches/communities/jamendo/scripts/quickinstall.py
Dec 22 22:00:14 <monossido> I have a webcam that works with gspca's module. I installed kmod-gspca but fonera gui doesn't recognise it (even if /dev/video0 exist) so i'm now tring to setup motion. When i try to run motion the fonera reboot...any ideas? I get all pkg files from here http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openwrt/fon-ng/
Dec 22 22:25:34 <onoff> hi all
Dec 22 22:25:46 <onoff> just flash the tantor image
Dec 22 22:25:58 <onoff> and now my fonera seams dead
Dec 22 22:26:11 <onoff> i flash it via ssh
Dec 22 22:26:29 <onoff> then the connection to the console was lost, after +/- 20 min. as expected
Dec 22 22:26:30 <rwhitby> ssh doesn't work on first boot, have you rebooted it twice?
Dec 22 22:26:58 <onoff> and now, i plug the power, the power light becomes orange for a while
Dec 22 22:27:03 <onoff> and after that it poweroff
Dec 22 22:27:18 <onoff> can't reboot it
Dec 22 22:27:24 <onoff> it seams dead
Dec 22 22:27:54 <rwhitby> did you wait long enough for the flash to finish - i.e. about 45 mins?
Dec 22 22:28:10 <onoff> yes...
Dec 22 22:28:33 <onoff> i wait till the connection to the ssh console disconnect itselft
Dec 22 22:28:33 <rwhitby> dunno then - you'll need to wait for someone from fon to assist.
Dec 22 22:28:37 <onoff> and more 15 min.
Dec 22 22:28:46 <onoff> yah...
Dec 22 22:29:01 <onoff> i always update firmware from this metod
Dec 22 22:29:10 <onoff> have done it twice with the fonera 2
Dec 22 22:29:19 <onoff> without problems
Dec 22 22:29:24 <onoff> and now... :S
Dec 22 22:29:46 <onoff> i'm gonna try the redboot metod
Dec 22 22:29:51 <inouk> onoff, get into redboot
Dec 22 22:30:15 <inouk> follow wiki instructions
Dec 22 22:30:35 <inouk> fislist to determine what is the situation
Dec 22 22:30:37 <onoff> yeah i'm doing it right now
Dec 22 22:31:29 <inouk> rwhitby, I'm compiling the image from SVN did you do it already?
Dec 22 22:31:51 <inouk> I'm getting an error in a translation file
Dec 22 22:32:00 <inouk> wrong ending
Dec 22 22:32:18 <inouk> though the ending seems fine:
Dec 22 22:32:29 <inouk> ftp_desc3 = "Hemen FTP zerbitzuaren pasahitza aldatu dezakezu. Erabiltzailea 'fonero' da eta ezin alda daiteke."
Dec 22 22:34:34 <rwhitby> inouk: last time I build was over 36 hours ago.
Dec 22 22:35:38 <inouk> rwhitby, sorry was looking in the wrong file I found the error
Dec 22 22:36:30 <onofff> ok i connect to the redboot
Dec 22 22:38:13 <onofff> the only thing diferent is the image2
Dec 22 22:38:23 <onofff> that i don't have on the fonera 2.0
Dec 22 22:38:26 <onofff> and its on the wiki page
Dec 22 22:39:47 <onofff> where i can find the image2?
Dec 22 23:06:12 <inouk> onofff, ha image2 isn't uploaded yet :(
Dec 22 23:06:22 <inouk> try fis create
Dec 22 23:06:43 <inouk> with the right memory address ofcouse
Dec 22 23:07:20 <inouk> and then don't upload any image2
Dec 22 23:07:30 <inouk> I'm not sure it will work
Dec 22 23:07:41 <inouk> but that might be a work arround
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