**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 10 02:59:57 2009
Feb 10 06:11:49 <Jos> hmm can I compile kernelmodules for the kernel just like any other module on a normal desktop/server ?
Feb 10 06:12:02 <Jos> (except I'd probably have to crosscompile)
Feb 10 07:05:37 <kazwo> ola
Feb 10 07:43:22 <Danicasti_> HI!
Feb 10 08:49:17 <iurgi> HI!
Feb 10 08:49:18 <iurgi> :)
Feb 10 09:02:31 <Danicasti_> I have almost solved the usb communication with a PICMICRO....
Feb 10 09:23:06 <chifong> hihi
Feb 10 09:23:46 <kazwo> i can see ppl
Feb 10 09:24:45 <chifong> does anyone know where can i buy a usb dongle for the OLPC?
Feb 10 09:25:12 <iurgi> laptop.org
Feb 10 09:25:13 <iurgi> I think
Feb 10 09:25:19 <iurgi> ĂI'm not sure
Feb 10 09:25:47 <kazwo> i think its dev only
Feb 10 09:26:15 <chifong> i can't find it anywhere in the website.
Feb 10 09:26:56 <iurgi> no idea then
Feb 10 09:26:57 <iurgi> :(
Feb 10 09:28:05 <chifong> some people say the Xbox 360 wireless network adaptor(wireless bridge) use Marvell 88W8388.
Feb 10 09:28:11 <chifong> anyone tried?
Feb 10 09:28:25 <blogic> nope
Feb 10 09:28:32 <blogic> i got mine from laptop.org
Feb 10 09:28:53 <chifong> how can u get it from there? is there a link to buy?
Feb 10 09:29:17 <chifong> i got two units of OLPC in the office.
Feb 10 09:29:24 <chifong> wanna try it out the mesh network.
Feb 10 09:33:58 <blogic> ah ok
Feb 10 09:34:01 <blogic> 1 sec
Feb 10 09:34:07 <blogic> i got it foir free
Feb 10 09:34:16 <blogic> but i will look for the link
Feb 10 09:36:02 <chifong> thx
Feb 10 10:07:42 <kazwo> heute gibts senfeier oder gefĂĽlltes hacksteak
Feb 10 10:08:02 <kazwo> wrong window
Feb 10 10:16:55 <blogic> senfeier is disgusting :)
Feb 10 10:19:17 <kazwo> never tried them :)
Feb 10 10:45:21 <iosonoio> someone go to the wcw in berlin?
Feb 10 10:46:06 <nbd> sure
Feb 10 10:46:40 <blogic> yeah
Feb 10 11:06:21 <iosonoio> greata!!
Feb 10 11:06:43 <iosonoio> so we'll see there!!
Feb 10 11:06:43 <iosonoio> :D
Feb 10 13:29:56 <voorstad> hi iurgi. Remeber my connection problems I mentioned yesterday?
Feb 10 13:30:46 <voorstad> turned our to be a firewall issue. So nothing to do with Oktopussy-2
Feb 10 13:31:08 <voorstad> Sorry to have bothered you
Feb 10 13:32:43 <iurgi> ah
Feb 10 13:32:43 <iurgi> ok
Feb 10 13:32:44 <iurgi> :D
Feb 10 13:32:45 <iurgi> cool
Feb 10 13:32:46 <iurgi> thanks!
Feb 10 13:32:51 <iurgi> out for lunch
Feb 10 13:32:52 <iurgi> bbl
Feb 10 13:52:15 <kazwo> iurgi must be a boss. only a boss eats so late
Feb 10 13:52:51 <blogic> kazwo: no, spanish
Feb 10 13:52:56 <blogic> only the italians eats later :)
Feb 10 13:53:45 <kazwo> italians eats always :P
Feb 10 13:54:37 <blogic> and unlike many other nations, the italians eat food
Feb 10 13:54:48 * blogic glances at the uk and the dirt they eat there ;D
Feb 10 13:55:14 <kazwo> hrhrhr :D
Feb 10 13:58:20 <kazwo> while i wait for the train here at burger king i notice they have the same lampshades as mc donalds
Feb 10 14:07:07 <iurgi> blogic: italians eat earlier than spanish
Feb 10 14:07:09 <iurgi> by much
Feb 10 14:07:33 <blogic> haha
Feb 10 14:24:41 <kazwo> what are you thinking about a blackbarry <-> fon2 <-> google sync?
Feb 10 14:25:26 <edgarg> hi everyone,
Feb 10 14:25:30 <kazwo> hi
Feb 10 14:25:48 <edgarg> I manage to access the usb from the rterminal and to installand run aircrac-ng on la fonera2
Feb 10 14:26:42 <iurgi> hi
Feb 10 14:26:44 <edgarg> I just got a question, how can I run a command in background?,  I mean when i am doing airodump, and close the terminal window the command stops working
Feb 10 14:27:04 <iurgi> hmmm
Feb 10 14:27:05 <iurgi> &
Feb 10 14:27:34 <edgarg> I tried & airodump
Feb 10 14:27:39 <blogic> airodrop &
Feb 10 14:27:43 <edgarg> ahhh
Feb 10 14:27:46 <iurgi> :)
Feb 10 14:27:54 <blogic> the & behind a command, sends it to the background ;)
Feb 10 14:28:12 <edgarg> excellent, because I read somewhere to use &
Feb 10 14:28:23 <edgarg> but I tought that it was BEFORE the command
Feb 10 14:28:28 <RHarmsen> edgarg... you could also openup more then one terminal
Feb 10 14:29:01 <edgarg> RH but the idea is to leave la fonera catching IV´s autonomously
Feb 10 14:29:48 <edgarg> without the necesity of having a computer around
Feb 10 14:30:39 <blogic> edgarg: ;)
Feb 10 14:31:20 <edgarg> thanks a lot
Feb 10 14:31:52 <CyrusFF> but you have to check whether it still runs if you disconnect from the terminal, many apps close when they receive SIGHUP
Feb 10 14:33:39 <xMff1> screen...
Feb 10 14:33:50 <iurgi> xMff1: on the F2?
Feb 10 14:33:52 <iurgi> hmm
Feb 10 14:34:01 <edgarg> i tried screen
Feb 10 14:34:04 <CyrusFF> screen is a bit overkill
Feb 10 14:34:05 <edgarg> but does not work
Feb 10 14:34:07 <blogic> hack the c code to do a fork()
Feb 10 14:34:08 <iurgi> well, I think it's worth doing # airodump & CTL-D
Feb 10 14:34:11 <iurgi> connect again
Feb 10 14:34:12 <iurgi> and ps
Feb 10 14:34:30 <iurgi> edgarg: imho, do as CyrusFF said
Feb 10 14:34:32 <iurgi> connect
Feb 10 14:34:33 <edgarg> I tried doing airodump ctl-z
Feb 10 14:34:37 <iurgi> run the command with &
Feb 10 14:34:43 <iurgi> airodump &
Feb 10 14:34:48 <RHarmsen> edgarg: do you know if it is possible to use multiple airodumps (on multiple machines) for catching, and some client to get everything together
Feb 10 14:34:51 <iurgi> run: ps|grep airo
Feb 10 14:34:59 <iurgi> if it's there
Feb 10 14:35:00 <iurgi> logout
Feb 10 14:35:02 <edgarg> yeah I will try aurodump &, but I am at the office now, and got the fonera at home
Feb 10 14:35:07 <iurgi> connect again with another ssh session
Feb 10 14:35:15 <iurgi> and check ps|grep airo again
Feb 10 14:35:19 <iurgi> if it's there, you're done
Feb 10 14:35:25 <iurgi> at least for this time ;)
Feb 10 14:35:35 <edgarg> RH what i do is to catch and save on the fonera and then bring them to my MBP to crack
Feb 10 14:36:10 <edgarg> great iurgi, I will try that as well
Feb 10 14:36:27 <RHarmsen> edgarg: I understand, but would be nice if it was possible to have multiple fonera's catching IV.s and be able to crack all in a single place without the need of copying stuff
Feb 10 14:36:39 <edgarg> RH yes you can have multiple files catches in different sessions or different computers and use them all together
Feb 10 14:37:16 <edgarg> RH well, you can allways connect via FTP without phisical necesity of getting the usb
Feb 10 14:37:24 <iurgi> samba
Feb 10 14:37:27 <iurgi> as well :)
Feb 10 14:37:35 <edgarg> right
Feb 10 14:38:01 <RHarmsen> ok, so still no client/server setup of aircrack yet then?
Feb 10 14:38:28 <edgarg> ??
Feb 10 14:38:34 <edgarg> what do you mean?
Feb 10 14:39:01 <RHarmsen> well i read in the past that it would be possible (in te future) to have multiple dump/inject clients
Feb 10 14:39:11 <RHarmsen> and have one central place to coordinate this all
Feb 10 14:39:19 <edgarg> you can allways use kismac as client
Feb 10 14:39:31 <RHarmsen> and in the future even have this place coordinate a distributed crack attempt
Feb 10 14:39:42 <RHarmsen> but this is all much non fonera related
Feb 10 14:40:08 <edgarg> you could as well, set up the foneras to write directly to a mounted HD on a single computer
Feb 10 14:40:13 <RHarmsen> wouls be nice to have some fonera clients which are able to do captures/injections
Feb 10 14:40:54 <edgarg> I still havent tryied injection with fonera 2 but it works with legend on fonera 1
Feb 10 14:41:16 <RHarmsen> I have did it on a fonera classic to in the past
Feb 10 14:43:19 <CyrusFF> use social engineering its usually more efficient then distributed cracking ;-)
Feb 10 14:43:30 <edgarg> jejejejeje
Feb 10 14:44:17 <edgarg> in spain is extremelly easy to crack wep
Feb 10 14:45:02 <CyrusFF> wep is like the new "unencrypted"
Feb 10 14:45:07 <edgarg> because one of the most popular sevices (telefonica) uses a stupid algorithm to generate the wep that involves the numbers of the mac, and the model of the router
Feb 10 14:47:56 <edgarg> so with the help of wlandecripter you can generate a dictionary and with only 4 iv´s you are able to crack it, no need to wait for 400,000
Feb 10 14:49:34 <CyrusFF> but that should not be a problem either when you inject disassoc-packets
Feb 10 14:50:05 <edgarg> yeah, just takes a little longer
Feb 10 14:50:10 <CyrusFF> sure
Feb 10 15:50:06 <kazwo> the new fonera power source :) http://www.redferret.net/?p=12862
Feb 10 16:01:33 <iurgi> lol
Feb 10 16:10:39 <goundoulf> btw, are the slides of FOSDEM 2009 available somewhere ?
Feb 10 16:11:37 <blogic> goundoulf: mail addr ?
Feb 10 16:11:44 <goundoulf> goundoulf@gmail.com
Feb 10 16:12:01 <goundoulf> thanks!
Feb 10 16:12:26 <blogic> sent
Feb 10 16:12:36 <goundoulf> are you going to put them online ?
Feb 10 16:13:31 <blogic> yeah
Feb 10 16:13:34 <blogic> i suppose so
Feb 10 16:14:05 <goundoulf> it would be great, i liked it :)
Feb 10 16:14:09 <blogic> haha
Feb 10 16:14:10 <blogic> :)
Feb 10 16:14:17 <blogic> we should have prepared it better
Feb 10 16:14:28 <blogic> but it was nice
Feb 10 16:14:36 <blogic> the questions were good
Feb 10 16:14:53 <goundoulf> that's ok, we couldn't see it wasn't prepared :)
Feb 10 16:15:31 <blogic> good :)
Feb 10 16:15:40 <blogic> well, it was prepared but we could have done even more
Feb 10 16:15:51 <blogic> we only spoke for about 25minutes
Feb 10 16:15:56 <blogic> and could have used 45
Feb 10 16:16:23 <goundoulf> what could have you said more?
Feb 10 16:16:42 <goundoulf> for more details you need to have a look into the code and play with it
Feb 10 16:17:40 <blogic> yeah
Feb 10 16:18:06 <icarus75> talking about things you really took part in, that always shows
Feb 10 16:18:35 <icarus75> i also went to the meamo on beagleboard talk
Feb 10 16:18:43 <icarus75> drop dead boring
Feb 10 16:18:53 <goundoulf> anyway it was really interesting to me to see how you dealt with problems i've been facing :)
Feb 10 16:19:02 <goundoulf> on the neufbox4
Feb 10 16:19:35 <goundoulf> the conf about Wt was boring also
Feb 10 16:19:54 <icarus75> maybe you should plan for an openwrt devroom for FOSDEM 2010
Feb 10 16:20:07 <goundoulf> there was a hackerspace
Feb 10 16:20:10 <goundoulf> on saturday
Feb 10 16:20:33 <icarus75> i only found out on sunday :-)
Feb 10 16:21:34 <goundoulf> yeah i couldn't make it also :(
Feb 10 16:22:27 <goundoulf> blogic: is nbd still a student?
Feb 10 16:22:38 <iurgi> he is
Feb 10 16:22:58 <iurgi> afaik
Feb 10 16:23:01 <iurgi> :)
Feb 10 16:23:06 <goundoulf> he doesn't seem so young :)
Feb 10 16:23:13 <iurgi> hmm
Feb 10 16:23:19 <iurgi> I think he takes itcalmly
Feb 10 16:23:23 <iurgi> has many projects in mind
Feb 10 16:23:29 <iurgi> in hands
Feb 10 16:24:31 <goundoulf> University of Hamburg, is this where Freifunk originates from?
Feb 10 16:26:04 <CyrusFF> freifunk originates from c-base in berlin afaik
Feb 10 16:26:45 <goundoulf> everything is written auf Deutsch, and I don't remember that much from school
Feb 10 17:22:10 <blogic> goundoulf: freifunk originates from the eastern part of berlin not having inet
Feb 10 17:22:18 <blogic> who did it, i have no idea
Feb 10 17:22:34 <blogic> nbd is still a student and recently moved from hamburg to berlin to study there
Feb 10 17:22:43 <blogic> and he has like 3? years to go
Feb 10 17:22:52 <blogic> hope that answers the question :)
Feb 10 17:23:08 <blogic> goundoulf: glad you liked the talk
Feb 10 17:23:57 <blogic> icarus75: we were not at the hacknight
Feb 10 17:24:01 <blogic> well, nbd and myself
Feb 10 17:24:05 <blogic> haha
Feb 10 17:24:13 <blogic> we were in our double bed :)
Feb 10 17:24:33 <blogic> the hotel screwed our room up and we had 1 big bed instead of 2 singles :)
Feb 10 17:24:51 <blogic> but we got an extra blanket
Feb 10 17:27:25 <icarus75> too much detail!!
Feb 10 17:27:31 <blogic> hehe
Feb 10 17:27:32 <blogic> :)
Feb 10 17:27:43 <blogic> i had some very good meetings though
Feb 10 17:27:49 <blogic> meet lost of very nice people
Feb 10 17:28:00 <blogic> i am not the person for these events you see, i do not like big crowds
Feb 10 17:28:20 <blogic> but fosdem i will certainly attend again
Feb 10 17:29:19 <icarus75> guess you prefer the pillow talk :-P
Feb 10 17:30:58 <blogic> hehe
Feb 10 17:32:17 <kazwo> interesting interesting
Feb 10 17:32:24 * kazwo makes some notes
Feb 10 17:32:47 <icarus75> it was good to hear what you guys are up to
Feb 10 17:33:02 <blogic> hehe
Feb 10 17:33:04 <blogic> uci rocks
Feb 10 17:33:15 <blogic> i was there as a openwrt developer and not fon hacker
Feb 10 17:33:33 <blogic> otherwise i would have said "fon-ng is so great thx to uci" :)
Feb 10 17:37:30 <kazwo> is there a syncing plugin planed? blackberry < fon > google :D
Feb 10 17:38:11 <icarus75> well, you did share some very interesting stuff as a fon hacker
Feb 10 17:38:31 <blogic> hehe
Feb 10 17:39:08 <icarus75> do you guys ever organise a barcamp?
Feb 10 17:42:24 <blogic> no
Feb 10 17:42:34 <blogic> openwrt is a bunch of very able hackers with good ideas
Feb 10 17:42:42 <blogic> we do however lack any kind of structure
Feb 10 17:42:54 <blogic> which is the prerequsit for being able to organize stuff
Feb 10 18:23:24 <iosonoio_> anyone knows how to enable public ket auth in fonera2?
Feb 10 18:23:36 <iosonoio_> in other words passwordless ssh login?
Feb 10 18:24:12 <xMff1> vi /etc/dropbear/authorized_keys and paste your pubkey as one line
Feb 10 18:24:44 <xMff1> or: scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub root@fonera:/etc/dropbear/authorized_keys  for the first time
Feb 10 18:25:03 <iosonoio_> ok
Feb 10 18:25:08 <iosonoio_> cause at the moment
Feb 10 18:25:10 <iosonoio_> i don't have
Feb 10 18:25:11 <iosonoio_> that file
Feb 10 18:25:18 <xMff1> you need to create it
Feb 10 18:25:24 <iosonoio_> ok ;)
Feb 10 18:25:28 <iosonoio_> i'm gonna to try
Feb 10 18:25:31 <iosonoio_> thx a lot!
Feb 10 18:25:58 <xMff1> np
Feb 10 18:26:34 <iosonoio_> it works ;)
Feb 10 18:26:52 <xMff1> of course it does ;)
Feb 10 18:26:59 <iosonoio_> eheheh
Feb 10 18:42:04 <iurgi> iosonoio_: if you reflash, you're gonna lose it
Feb 10 18:42:09 <iurgi> just so that you konw
Feb 10 18:42:12 <iurgi> :P
Feb 10 18:43:05 <iosonoio_> yessa yessa i know
Feb 10 18:43:09 <iosonoio_> thx anyway ;)
Feb 10 21:00:14 <incyi> hello
Feb 10 21:00:30 <incyi> how much time takes the proces which begins with make ?
Feb 10 21:00:32 <incyi> 3 hours ?
Feb 10 21:04:02 <incyi> :D
Feb 10 21:04:26 <xMff> a while :)
Feb 10 21:04:29 <xMff> depends on cpu
Feb 10 21:04:50 <xMff> subsequent rebuilds will be faster
Feb 10 21:04:54 <incyi> core2duo 1,86ghz
Feb 10 21:04:58 <incyi> 2GB ddr2
Feb 10 21:05:17 <xMff> the 2dua was the one which actually had two cores?
Feb 10 21:05:19 <incyi> this is the first time maybe that is the reason ?
Feb 10 21:05:30 <incyi> yes but it's running virtual
Feb 10 21:05:36 <xMff> ah ok
Feb 10 21:05:36 <incyi> i think it is just using 1 core
Feb 10 21:05:39 <incyi> :D
Feb 10 21:05:54 <xMff> otherwise you could use  make -j2 to use two concurrent build threads
Feb 10 21:06:07 <incyi> hmm
Feb 10 21:06:12 <incyi> i let this run
Feb 10 21:06:24 <incyi> when its finished i sall look what else i can do
Feb 10 21:06:42 <xMff> yes, first time takes a while, it needs to build the compiler, the toolchain, then finally the actual binaries
Feb 10 21:06:43 <incyi> it's now running 3h 48m.
Feb 10 21:07:08 <incyi> uhu the toolchain :D haha i remember it for the psp it takes almost a hole day
Feb 10 21:08:12 <incyi> thank you for the information
Feb 10 21:08:16 <incyi> =)
Feb 10 21:08:20 <xMff> yw
Feb 10 21:08:24 <incyi> bye
Feb 10 21:08:27 <xMff> bye
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