**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 17 02:59:58 2009 Feb 17 07:37:24 Buongiorno! Feb 17 07:46:32 saluto te Feb 17 08:53:21 hi Feb 17 08:55:44 rwhitby: hi Feb 17 08:55:53 did you make any progress with bluetooth? Feb 17 08:56:00 I bought a dongle to try it :P Feb 17 09:54:46 http://blog.fonosfera.org/fonera-20-failsafe-image/ Feb 17 09:54:51 I recommend installing it Feb 17 09:54:53 just in case Feb 17 09:54:54 :) Feb 17 09:55:06 btw, I'd like to apalogise for the delay Feb 17 09:55:08 but... Feb 17 09:55:22 we are releasing a new firmware... TODAY Feb 17 09:55:39 after that, unless there's something critical, we wil focus mainly on plugins Feb 17 09:55:40 :D Feb 17 09:59:51 iurgi: Whats wrong with the old failsafe? Feb 17 10:00:03 would be nice to know what the problem is Feb 17 10:00:31 sure Feb 17 10:00:36 the probem is it's the F+ failsafe Feb 17 10:00:59 so the key to check the fon signature is incorrect Feb 17 10:01:21 meaning you can't use the failsafe web interface to restore your F2 with a F2 firmware but a F+ firmware Feb 17 10:01:25 : Feb 17 10:01:25 :) Feb 17 10:01:29 (: Feb 17 10:01:45 ah Feb 17 10:02:02 so, better use it ;) Feb 17 10:02:04 well an F+ firmware will at least help to get SSH access back ;) Feb 17 10:02:05 just in case Feb 17 10:02:06 hehe Feb 17 10:02:14 hmmm Feb 17 10:02:19 F+ has no ssh enabled Feb 17 10:02:28 you should hack it and do some work Feb 17 10:02:34 I think it's worth installing it ;) Feb 17 10:02:58 i ment hacking in ;) Feb 17 10:03:01 ah Feb 17 10:03:07 yeah Feb 17 10:03:19 but it is worth it, as it saves a lot of work if something goes wrong Feb 17 10:03:20 well, for that shake... it's easier to use redboot instead of failsafe Feb 17 10:03:26 and flash directly a F2 firmware Feb 17 10:03:31 ;) Feb 17 10:04:25 guess i'll wait for the new firmware to be released, so I can do all at once Feb 17 10:05:06 yeah Feb 17 10:05:08 good idea Feb 17 10:05:19 won't take long, probably right after the Spanish lunch Feb 17 10:25:27 RHarmsen: you did the dutch translation, right? Feb 17 10:59:09 nope I didn't Feb 17 10:59:26 got any problems with it? Feb 17 11:03:41 is it released yet? Feb 17 11:04:25 new backup software :D Feb 17 11:13:31 RHarmsen: you know who did it? Feb 17 11:13:33 no, no problems Feb 17 11:13:42 just wanted to give credit on the blog post Feb 17 11:13:43 :) Feb 17 11:23:07 iurgi: I'm not sure... could be voorstad Feb 17 11:23:26 hmmm Feb 17 11:23:27 yeah Feb 17 11:23:29 I think so Feb 17 11:25:16 iurgi: You checked it in yourself... and you don't know ... Feb 17 11:26:20 RHarmsen: :) most of the times it was checked in by blogic Feb 17 11:26:29 but you're right, I checked it in last time Feb 17 11:26:30 thanks Feb 17 11:26:35 I'll look for the email Feb 17 11:26:43 I'm so busy I couldn't even think of it Feb 17 11:26:43 :D Feb 17 11:27:29 found Feb 17 11:27:32 it was merlin Feb 17 11:27:32 :D Feb 17 11:29:19 good to hear, it got solved ;) Feb 17 11:47:42 @ RHarmsen/Iurgi It indeed was n't me. English is fine for me. But if you need some translations, be my guest.....! Feb 17 12:52:50 Hello. I read the blog entry about the failsafe. But, what it is for actually? Is it needed in case of a bad flashing process ro recover fonera from catatonia? Feb 17 12:53:03 yes Feb 17 12:53:19 All right. Let's keep it then, Feb 17 12:53:25 well, advanced users, that can use 'redboot' don't really need it Feb 17 12:53:27 but it's better Feb 17 12:53:49 the current failsafe image, the one that is already installed on your foneras, is not working properly Feb 17 12:53:53 so it needs to be replace Feb 17 12:53:55 Woa, I'm quite fed up of playing with redboot Feb 17 12:54:05 hehe Feb 17 12:54:09 is the failsave mode write protected? Feb 17 12:54:10 then you don't really need it Feb 17 12:54:16 no Feb 17 12:54:21 I'd rather stay with ssh Feb 17 12:54:51 Decodecoding: ssh only works if your firmware is ok Feb 17 12:55:08 but if it goes 'catatonic', then you need either failsafe or redboot Feb 17 12:55:13 I Know. I hope I won't screw it... Feb 17 12:55:19 hehe Feb 17 12:55:20 ok ok Feb 17 12:56:38 I can proudly say I never screwed a fonera without recovering it back from coma, je je. This little routers cling to life, ha ha Feb 17 12:58:38 it's veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery difficult to breaka fonera Feb 17 12:58:53 unless you break the redboot image, you can always recover it Feb 17 12:59:25 in your case, then, I would say: "I can proudly say I was always able to recover it back from coma" Feb 17 12:59:28 hehe Feb 17 12:59:50 yes. The WRT54G was only a "good guy". It never used to die completely... :-D Feb 17 13:00:26 I mean, "was also" Feb 17 13:22:02 guys i wanna install the new failsafe Feb 17 13:22:28 ok Feb 17 13:22:30 it's easy Feb 17 13:22:31 :) Feb 17 13:22:31 can i do it with this firmware version? Fonera 2.0 Firmware (v2.2.1.0) Feb 17 13:22:49 yes Feb 17 13:22:53 using ssh Feb 17 13:22:59 just follow the instructions of the post Feb 17 13:23:04 ok Feb 17 13:38:14 ey Feb 17 13:38:20 that's is what i get Feb 17 13:38:22 root@Fonera:~# mtd -r write 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image image2 Feb 17 13:38:22 root@Fonera:~# md5sum 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image Feb 17 13:38:23 d29e07bdcb6df04209cafafce8f3bc5f 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image Feb 17 13:38:23 root@Fonera:~# mtd -r write 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image image2 Feb 17 13:38:23 Unlocking image2 ... Feb 17 13:38:23 Writing from 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image to image2 ... [w]Error writing image. Feb 17 14:00:50 anyone can help me? Feb 17 14:03:36 hi all Feb 17 14:35:26 i have some trouble with fonera 2100 and openwrt kamikaze 8.09 rc Feb 17 14:35:41 i would like to create a repeater Feb 17 14:35:55 is this possible? Feb 17 15:04:29 i have some trouble with fonera 2100 and openwrt kamikaze 8.09 rc2, i'd like to build a wifi repeater. Feb 17 15:04:38 any help will be appreciated Feb 17 15:05:38 hi, some notice??? Feb 17 15:05:51 what is failsafe image? Feb 17 15:10:02 the image that you use when you press reset? Feb 17 15:14:06 right? Feb 17 15:19:55 somesone can reply pls? Feb 17 15:23:18 azz... non ti risponde nessuno.... Feb 17 15:23:40 hm hm Feb 17 15:23:47 I'm going to get myself a E220 and a fonosfera :D Feb 17 15:27:02 Barbon, exactly Feb 17 15:28:48 Jos: :) Feb 17 15:28:53 thank you inouk Feb 17 15:28:53 Jos: E220 works very well Feb 17 15:29:55 hehe Feb 17 15:30:04 Very nice combination :) Feb 17 15:31:24 brb Feb 17 15:31:25 Danicasti_, : ti rispondo io Feb 17 15:32:38 eheh Feb 17 15:33:07 gli italiani aumentano.... Feb 17 15:33:49 pure io italiano XD Feb 17 15:34:10 Vai Ale! Feb 17 15:37:08 eh gia Feb 17 15:37:16 peccato che fon in italia sia illegale Feb 17 15:37:18 :D Feb 17 15:38:14 è illegale? Feb 17 15:38:16 :O Feb 17 15:38:48 la condivisione della connessione internet � si illegale Feb 17 15:39:10 fon_free_internet insomma non myplace :D Feb 17 15:44:52 eh si... Feb 17 15:48:55 nn sapevo o.o Feb 17 15:50:47 ....pero' si fa.... :) Feb 17 15:55:55 raga chi di voi ha messo l'immage fail-safe? Feb 17 15:56:09 nn mi fa loggare root/Fonera Feb 17 15:56:15 funge Root/admin Feb 17 15:56:16 va bene? Feb 17 15:56:53 a che serve l immagine fail safe Feb 17 15:58:06 non so risponderti... Feb 17 15:58:35 ma il fw caterpillar non si trova? Feb 17 15:59:27 Dovrebbe uscire oggi... Feb 17 16:00:44 mah Feb 17 16:00:59 io ho una fonera vecchia la 2100 Feb 17 16:01:11 ma il segnale wifi � diventato scarso quasi invisibile Feb 17 16:01:15 secondo voi che puo essere? Feb 17 16:01:33 l'immage safe è il firmware di emergenza Feb 17 16:01:42 se lo mettete nella fonera potete resetare Feb 17 16:01:44 tramite bottoncino Feb 17 16:02:32 io l'ho messa Feb 17 16:02:35 ma mi ha dato errore... Feb 17 16:02:48 questo è l'output del comando Feb 17 16:02:48 root@Fonera:~# mtd -r write 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image image2 Feb 17 16:02:48 root@Fonera:~# md5sum 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image Feb 17 16:02:49 d29e07bdcb6df04209cafafce8f3bc5f 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image Feb 17 16:02:49 root@Fonera:~# mtd -r write 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image image2 Feb 17 16:02:49 Unlocking image2 ... Feb 17 16:02:51 Writing from 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image to image2 ... [w]Error writing image. Feb 17 16:03:11 ma il fw per la fonera 2 si pu ocaricare sulla fonera 1? Feb 17 16:04:05 mmm non te lo so dire :D Feb 17 16:04:05 iosonoio, la sintassi corretta dovrebbe essere mtd -r write NOMEIMMAGINEFRIMWARE.image image Feb 17 16:04:16 iosonoio, non image2 finale Feb 17 16:04:34 io l'ho presa pari pari da qui Feb 17 16:04:35 http://blog.fonosfera.org/fonera-20-failsafe-image/ Feb 17 16:05:22 dici che è quello il problema' Feb 17 16:05:33 cmq rispondono poco perchè oggi ci dovrebbe essere l'uscita del nuovo firmware Feb 17 16:05:57 ma qualcuno degli italiani viene al wireless community weekend a berlino? Feb 17 16:07:34 iosonoio, se hai errori sul firmware si, la sintassi � sbagliata Feb 17 16:07:58 quindi sul blog hannos critto male? Feb 17 16:08:56 iosonoio, http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Firmware_Update_Instructions#SSH_interface quarda tu stesso Feb 17 16:09:19 eh si aspè Feb 17 16:09:24 però quello server per flashare Feb 17 16:09:36 ma oggi esce il firmware definitivo? Feb 17 16:09:36 qui invece Feb 17 16:09:43 io devo semplicemente Feb 17 16:09:45 cioè nn beta Feb 17 16:09:45 aggiornare Feb 17 16:09:53 il firmware di backup Feb 17 16:10:08 in realtà il failsafe image Feb 17 16:10:21 perciò penso ci sia image2 Feb 17 16:10:31 che sarebbe le coordinate della parte di memoria Feb 17 16:10:39 dove è situato il failsafe image Feb 17 16:11:37 oggi esce un nuovo firmware Feb 17 16:11:43 ma non so se sarà la versione definitiva Feb 17 16:11:51 speriamo Feb 17 16:12:09 hi Feb 17 16:12:49 hey iurgi XD Feb 17 16:12:59 come vA? Feb 17 16:13:17 hey iurgi Feb 17 16:13:38 what's wrogn here? Feb 17 16:13:38 root@Fonera:~# mtd -r write 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image image2 Feb 17 16:13:38 root@Fonera:~# md5sum 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image Feb 17 16:13:39 d29e07bdcb6df04209cafafce8f3bc5f 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image Feb 17 16:13:39 root@Fonera:~# mtd -r write 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image image2 Feb 17 16:13:39 Unlocking image2 ... Feb 17 16:13:41 Writing from 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image to image2 ... [w]Error writing image. Feb 17 16:14:05 iosonoio: hmmmm Feb 17 16:14:09 does it stop Feb 17 16:14:15 or it keeps trying to flash? Feb 17 16:14:19 maybe this? Just MAKE SURE you don’t make any activity during this process. Feb 17 16:14:39 it is stopped now Feb 17 16:14:45 weird Feb 17 16:14:48 i ahve the shell working Feb 17 16:14:50 cat /proc/mtd Feb 17 16:15:08 root@Fonera:~# cat /proc/mtd Feb 17 16:15:08 dev: size erasesize name Feb 17 16:15:08 mtd0: 00030000 00010000 "RedBoot" Feb 17 16:15:08 mtd1: 00010000 00010000 "loader" Feb 17 16:15:09 mtd2: 00620000 00010000 "image" Feb 17 16:15:09 mtd3: 0056d1b0 00010000 "rootfs" Feb 17 16:15:10 mtd4: 00200000 00010000 "rootfs_data" Feb 17 16:15:12 mtd5: 00140000 00010000 "image2" Feb 17 16:15:14 mtd6: 0000f000 00010000 "FIS directory" Feb 17 16:15:16 mtd7: 00001000 00010000 "RedBoot config" Feb 17 16:15:18 mtd8: 00010000 00010000 "boardconfig" Feb 17 16:15:28 really strange Feb 17 16:15:31 should work Feb 17 16:15:44 are you sure you didn't do CTL^C or something? Feb 17 16:16:09 no Feb 17 16:16:12 i didn't Feb 17 16:16:13 iurgi i can use internet when i aplly the the save image? Feb 17 16:16:16 how i can stop Feb 17 16:16:18 all process Feb 17 16:16:21 on the fonera2 Feb 17 16:16:22 ? Feb 17 16:16:28 iosonoio, do you have correct redboot partition table? Feb 17 16:16:37 Barbon: "save image"? what do you mean? Feb 17 16:16:48 correct means? Feb 17 16:16:54 safe-image Feb 17 16:16:54 how i can check if is correct? Feb 17 16:17:20 > fis list Feb 17 16:17:25 while in redboot Feb 17 16:17:35 i'm not in redboot Feb 17 16:17:41 i'm through ssh Feb 17 16:17:45 connection at the moment Feb 17 16:18:01 it looks good to me Feb 17 16:18:13 it is indeed correect Feb 17 16:18:31 maybe some process could could be the reason? Feb 17 16:19:03 mine dont want to be applyed Feb 17 16:19:05 mtd erase image2 && mtd -r write 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image image2 Feb 17 16:19:06 ? Feb 17 16:19:11 that should work i guess Feb 17 16:19:15 root@Fonera:~# mtd -r write 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image image2 Feb 17 16:19:16 Could not open mtd device: image2 Feb 17 16:19:18 Can't open device for writing! Feb 17 16:19:19 root@Fonera:~# Feb 17 16:19:20 or even Feb 17 16:19:35 mtd unlock image2 && mtd erase image2 && mtd -r write 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image image2 Feb 17 16:19:51 blogic can i do what have you written? Feb 17 16:19:57 Barbon: cat /proc/mtd Feb 17 16:20:14 iosonoio: i guess that should work, yes Feb 17 16:20:29 i mean this: "mtd unlock image2 && mtd erase image2 && mtd -r write 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image image2" Feb 17 16:20:37 yes Feb 17 16:20:39 try it Feb 17 16:20:43 blogic Feb 17 16:20:44 ok Feb 17 16:20:46 dev: size erasesize name Feb 17 16:20:47 if the fon2 blows up, dont blame me Feb 17 16:20:48 mtd0: 00030000 00010000 "RedBoot" Feb 17 16:20:50 mtd1: 00010000 00010000 "loader" Feb 17 16:20:52 mtd2: 007a0000 00010000 "image" Feb 17 16:20:54 mtd3: 006ed181 00010000 "rootfs" Feb 17 16:20:56 mtd4: 00380000 00010000 "rootfs_data" Feb 17 16:20:58 mtd5: 0000f000 00010000 "FIS directory" Feb 17 16:21:00 mtd6: 00001000 00010000 "RedBoot config" Feb 17 16:21:01 mtd7: 00010000 00010000 "boardconfig" Feb 17 16:21:25 Barbon: :D no image2 Feb 17 16:21:30 as I expected Feb 17 16:21:43 it's clear that you once reflashed using redboot but didn't add the image2 Feb 17 16:21:48 you have to do it all again Feb 17 16:21:49 :( Feb 17 16:22:03 i have to reflash all? Feb 17 16:27:50 why image2 is not appaered? Feb 17 16:29:07 because you did "fis init" Feb 17 16:29:15 but then didn't do the full process Feb 17 16:29:28 Barbon, it's not absolutelly necessary, but I'd suggest you did it Feb 17 16:30:05 iurgi, hello, i have some trouble with fonera 2100 and openwrt kamikaze 8.09 rc2, i'd like to build a wifi repeater, is it possible? Feb 17 16:30:37 wa||AC3: ehr... well, probably Feb 17 16:30:42 technically it's possible Feb 17 16:30:51 but I'm not the guy to help you... Feb 17 16:30:59 I'm sure there's information about it on the internet Feb 17 16:31:03 iurgi that's my output Feb 17 16:31:04 root@Fonera:~# mtd unlock image2 && mtd erase image2 && mtd -r write 20090206_FO Feb 17 16:31:04 N2202_failsafe.image image2 Feb 17 16:31:04 Unlocking image2 ... Feb 17 16:31:05 Unlocking image2 ... Feb 17 16:31:05 Erasing image2 ... Feb 17 16:31:06 Unlocking image2 ... Feb 17 16:31:08 I really have not enough tech skills to help you Feb 17 16:31:08 Writing from 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image to image2 ... [w]Error writing image. Feb 17 16:31:58 iosonoio: it's weird Feb 17 16:32:08 I think you should try it on RedBoot Feb 17 16:32:21 ok Feb 17 16:32:25 iurgi, okay thanks Feb 17 16:32:26 but Feb 17 16:32:36 now i don't have the failsafe image right? Feb 17 16:32:37 :D Feb 17 16:32:43 hmmm Feb 17 16:32:45 probably you do Feb 17 16:32:47 it's easy to test Feb 17 16:32:50 iurgi, it s possible to flash on fonera 2100 opktopussy firmware? Feb 17 16:32:50 poweroff Feb 17 16:33:04 press reset and poweron without releasing reset Feb 17 16:33:12 keep it pressed for another 20secs Feb 17 16:34:01 and ù' Feb 17 16:34:02 ? Feb 17 16:34:12 then release! Feb 17 16:34:13 hahaha Feb 17 16:34:15 :D Feb 17 16:34:17 no yessa Feb 17 16:34:18 this should bring the fonera in failsafe mode Feb 17 16:34:19 i know Feb 17 16:34:27 but what will be the behavoir Feb 17 16:34:36 the power and wlan leds Feb 17 16:34:46 will have the orange led on and off every second Feb 17 16:35:01 and there will be a signal saying: "FON_ATTENTION_PLEASE_CONNECT" or similar Feb 17 16:35:06 if i wait the next release? Feb 17 16:35:09 on the cable, the fonera will be on IP 192.168.1.1 Feb 17 16:35:42 oh that's cool :D Feb 17 16:36:03 and through i can restore the failsafe image Feb 17 16:36:08 Barbon: that won't fix it Feb 17 16:36:08 right? Feb 17 16:36:12 yes Feb 17 16:36:17 no Feb 17 16:36:17 no Feb 17 16:36:18 no Feb 17 16:36:19 sorry Feb 17 16:36:19 haha Feb 17 16:36:22 lol Feb 17 16:36:25 no, that's only to know if you have failsafe Feb 17 16:36:31 but that failsafe is broken Feb 17 16:36:33 forget about it Feb 17 16:36:36 just go to redboot Feb 17 16:36:43 and flash the failsafe image from there Feb 17 16:36:55 ok Feb 17 16:36:59 i have to use Feb 17 16:37:08 the same command? Feb 17 16:37:16 hmmm Feb 17 16:37:19 just Feb 17 16:37:23 get to RedBoot Feb 17 16:37:34 load -r -b%{FREEMEMLO} image_name Feb 17 16:37:42 oh right Feb 17 16:37:49 i need a tftp server Feb 17 16:38:06 yes Feb 17 16:38:08 you don't have it? Feb 17 16:38:29 Iurgi: how i can fix it so? Feb 17 16:38:49 not yet :D Feb 17 16:39:00 thank you anyway Feb 17 16:39:01 :D Feb 17 16:40:43 how i can fix it? :) Feb 17 16:41:05 Barbon: hmm Feb 17 16:41:06 Redboot Feb 17 16:41:15 follow the wiki.fon.com tutorial Feb 17 16:41:31 there's a point it says: "my fis layout is not the same as this one!" Feb 17 16:41:34 or something like that Feb 17 16:42:06 i have to flash by using lan so? Feb 17 16:42:15 yes... Feb 17 16:42:17 and Redboot Feb 17 16:42:19 :/ Feb 17 16:42:24 you did that already Feb 17 16:42:26 didn't you? Feb 17 16:42:27 i have used ssh Feb 17 16:42:37 with latest firmwares Feb 17 16:42:37 always?? Feb 17 16:42:49 Barbon Feb 17 16:42:56 someon has done something else with your fonera Feb 17 16:43:08 you see there's no "image2" partition as in iosonoio's Feb 17 16:43:22 i dont see that partition Feb 17 16:43:26 someone used redboot there Feb 17 16:43:29 exactly Feb 17 16:43:35 someone used redboot on your device Feb 17 16:44:18 guys... Feb 17 16:44:34 I will be away for 2min Feb 17 16:44:54 yes i have used it with the duck firmware Feb 17 16:45:03 i think... Feb 17 16:51:25 yeah, you probably did use redboot Feb 17 16:51:29 you have to do it again Feb 17 16:51:32 so, I'm back... Feb 17 16:51:35 guys... Feb 17 16:51:45 http://blog.fonosfera.org/the-ugly-earthy-mr-caterpillar-mutated-into-a-beautyful-and-joyful-flying-butterfly/ Feb 17 16:51:48 :D Feb 17 16:51:51 there you go Feb 17 16:52:59 iurgi can you link the exact site Feb 17 16:53:02 i cant find Feb 17 16:53:09 sure Feb 17 16:53:17 it's linked in the failsafe post Feb 17 16:53:28