**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 19 02:59:57 2009 Feb 19 07:41:31 Hi! Buongiorno! Feb 19 08:41:18 hi Feb 19 08:42:47 the link in wiki to download Audiocli Plugin is broken. Feb 19 10:14:45 guys Feb 19 10:14:54 i have fulled up all my memory Feb 19 10:14:59 on the fonera :) Feb 19 10:15:02 how i can reset Feb 19 10:15:09 everything? Feb 19 10:15:31 iosonoio: /etc/fonstated/ResetFactory or sth like that Feb 19 10:15:45 ok Feb 19 10:15:50 thx Feb 19 10:28:20 iosonoio: there's a button in the interface as well Feb 19 10:28:30 in Configuration->System Feb 19 10:28:37 oh i didn't see it :( Feb 19 10:28:42 and also, you can press reset button for more than 10secs Feb 19 10:28:44 same effect Feb 19 10:28:45 :) Feb 19 10:28:46 anyway i'm doing a reflash... Feb 19 10:28:54 ah Feb 19 10:28:55 ok Feb 19 10:28:57 :D Feb 19 10:29:11 it's almost the same right? Feb 19 10:37:04 hmmm Feb 19 10:37:05 no Feb 19 10:37:13 factory reset takes a few seconds Feb 19 10:37:19 reflash takes several minutes Feb 19 10:37:21 :) Feb 19 10:37:50 Holà iosonoio! Feb 19 10:38:03 Hai indirizzato male i torrent? Feb 19 10:38:08 eheh... Feb 19 10:38:53 eheheh no no Feb 19 10:38:53 :D Feb 19 10:38:57 ho installato Feb 19 10:39:00 lighthttp Feb 19 10:39:11 e ho distrutto tutto :D Feb 19 10:39:14 chihchun: try this one: http://download.fonosfera.org/plugins/audiocli_0.2_fonera2_unsigned.tar.gz Feb 19 10:39:39 iurgi: ehehehe yessa just a little bit different :P Feb 19 10:42:09 Io volevo provare a installare php... ma mi sa che crasha... Feb 19 10:43:25 Danicasti_: non puoi installare php a la fonera Feb 19 10:44:11 non c'è spazio ni CPU Feb 19 10:44:16 XD Feb 19 10:47:22 Peccato.... Feb 19 10:50:32 si può fare dani Feb 19 10:50:33 !! Feb 19 10:50:35 io sono con te :D Feb 19 10:50:43 con light http puoi mettere php cgi Feb 19 10:50:49 e può funzionare :D Feb 19 10:51:32 allora si prova... grazie! Feb 19 10:51:38 iosonoio__: hmmmmm Feb 19 10:51:52 ma non va funzionare bene Feb 19 10:51:53 iurgi: i told to danicasti Feb 19 10:52:00 that he can isntall lighthttp Feb 19 10:52:04 and php cgi Feb 19 10:52:06 I understood ;) Feb 19 10:52:10 ah ok sorry :D Feb 19 10:52:12 I'm learning italian Feb 19 10:52:13 :P Feb 19 10:52:17 greattt Feb 19 10:52:36 are you coming in the wcw? Feb 19 10:53:02 wcw? Feb 19 10:53:02 no Feb 19 10:53:04 what is it? Feb 19 10:53:11 wireless community weekeng Feb 19 10:53:13 in berlin Feb 19 10:53:38 ah Feb 19 10:53:40 no :( Feb 19 10:54:11 damn :( Feb 19 10:54:40 anyway i need to let the fonera draw some graphs Feb 19 10:54:45 about my network Feb 19 10:54:57 i tried with collect but i can't get it work Feb 19 10:55:03 so i'll try with cacti :D Feb 19 10:55:14 php+lighthttp+sqlite Feb 19 10:55:14 :D Feb 19 10:55:16 <`g0rt> there is snmp enabled in fonera ? Feb 19 10:55:21 iosonoio__: what kind of graphics? Feb 19 10:55:24 oh you can install it Feb 19 10:55:29 did you check the "Status" page? Feb 19 10:55:39 <`g0rt> i got a pb with ipkg, update fails :/ Feb 19 10:55:40 yessa but it's live Feb 19 10:55:41 `g0rt: yeah, I guess you can install it Feb 19 10:55:50 `g0rt: ipkg? Feb 19 10:55:53 don't use that Feb 19 10:55:54 <`g0rt> yep Feb 19 10:55:56 <`g0rt> ah ? Feb 19 10:56:01 <`g0rt> what do you recommend ? Feb 19 10:56:03 <`g0rt> opkg ? Feb 19 10:56:07 i use opkg Feb 19 10:56:08 either tarballs or opkg, yes Feb 19 10:56:16 <`g0rt> ok i'll give a try Feb 19 10:56:18 you can download snmp from openwrt.org Feb 19 10:56:22 in opkg format imho Feb 19 10:56:24 <`g0rt> any "secure" place to get the binary from ? Feb 19 10:56:28 with this rep Feb 19 10:56:28 http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openwrt/fon-ng/mips/ Feb 19 10:56:34 openwrt.org Feb 19 10:56:40 or yes, that one Feb 19 10:56:44 it's safe Feb 19 10:56:48 <`g0rt> ok i'll get a look at this Feb 19 10:56:49 <`g0rt> thanks Feb 19 10:56:53 http://downloads.openwrt.org/kamikaze/8.09/atheros/ Feb 19 10:57:17 `g0rt: what do you want snmp for? Feb 19 10:57:28 i suggest Feb 19 10:57:31 mini-snmp Feb 19 10:57:43 anyway the status page Feb 19 10:57:48 it's onlin live statistic Feb 19 10:58:01 i need statistic store somewhere Feb 19 10:58:15 so that i can check the behavior of my net Feb 19 10:58:25 iosonoio__: store them in a pendrive? Feb 19 10:58:25 in a more big time slice Feb 19 10:58:29 yes Feb 19 10:59:41 <`g0rt> iurgi: polling to get raw ifstats, maybe netflow maybe usefull too Feb 19 11:00:14 iosonoio__: like this? http://luci.freifunk-halle.net/WebUI/Screenshots/Administration?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=stat-iface.png Feb 19 11:00:35 yessa Feb 19 11:00:45 that was done with collectd right? Feb 19 11:00:50 yes Feb 19 11:00:54 anyway that is what i want Feb 19 11:00:55 :D Feb 19 11:01:35 i'll back soon Feb 19 11:03:20 <`g0rt> damn, seems that / is full any clue ? Feb 19 11:03:53 iosonoio: Try to FusionCharts Feb 19 11:05:54 `g0rt: your / ? on the fonera? Feb 19 11:06:03 <`g0rt> yep Feb 19 11:06:16 <`g0rt> maybe i can change the ramdisk size at boot ? Feb 19 11:06:45 <`g0rt> ( i just received my fonera 2 days ago, not so familiar ) Feb 19 11:07:11 `g0rt: how did you feel it? using ipkg? Feb 19 11:07:15 ramdisk size won't help Feb 19 11:07:30 all you can do (the easiest thing) is to reset it to factory defaults Feb 19 11:07:37 what firmware version do you have? Feb 19 11:08:05 <`g0rt> default one Feb 19 11:08:09 <`g0rt> any command to show ? Feb 19 11:08:41 default one?!?!? Feb 19 11:08:43 lol Feb 19 11:08:47 please UPGRADE!!!! Feb 19 11:09:00 are you connected to ssh? Feb 19 11:09:12 please give me the output of cat /etc/firmware_version Feb 19 11:09:12 <`g0rt> yep Feb 19 11:09:46 <`g0rt> no file with this name Feb 19 11:09:53 <`g0rt> i have only a few fon_ files Feb 19 11:09:56 ?? Feb 19 11:09:57 wait Feb 19 11:09:58 <`g0rt> including version Feb 19 11:10:13 sorry Feb 19 11:10:22 cat /etc/fon_version Feb 19 11:10:49 <`g0rt> 2.0.1 Feb 19 11:10:52 lol Feb 19 11:10:53 !!! Feb 19 11:10:55 <`g0rt> what's the latest ? Feb 19 11:10:59 you ave a piece of shit in your hands Feb 19 11:11:00 :D Feb 19 11:11:03 <`g0rt> LOL Feb 19 11:11:08 do you have 25min for a reflash? Feb 19 11:11:12 <`g0rt> ok, where can i get the latest one ? Feb 19 11:11:13 <`g0rt> sure Feb 19 11:11:14 if so... Feb 19 11:11:15 do this Feb 19 11:11:18 cd /tmp Feb 19 11:11:38 wget http://download.fonosfera.org/Caterpillar/20090217_FON2202_2.2.3.0_Caterpillar_developers.image Feb 19 11:11:51 mtd -r write 20090217_FON2202_2.2.3.0_Caterpillar_developers.image image Feb 19 11:12:00 and wait 25m till it reboots Feb 19 11:12:01 :D Feb 19 11:12:04 you'll be surprised Feb 19 11:12:07 <`g0rt> thanks :) Feb 19 11:12:18 check the different posts in blog.fonosfera.org Feb 19 11:12:19 <`g0rt> 2.2.3.0 Feb 19 11:12:20 <`g0rt> omfg Feb 19 11:12:23 while it's flashing Feb 19 11:12:25 <`g0rt> i'm teh late Feb 19 11:12:28 so you know what you can expect Feb 19 11:12:29 :) Feb 19 11:14:07 <`g0rt> thanks Feb 19 11:15:01 no prob Feb 19 11:15:04 you'll see Feb 19 11:15:08 it makes a difference ;) Feb 19 11:15:28 <`g0rt> i knew i had an upgrade to do Feb 19 11:15:35 <`g0rt> i didn't realize it was so urgent Feb 19 11:15:36 <`g0rt> lol Feb 19 11:15:57 it is Feb 19 11:15:57 hehe Feb 19 11:17:31 hi zen2: yes, you can disable tts in the fonera Feb 19 11:17:40 hi Feb 19 11:19:09 iurgi: thanks for that info. What do I need to do? Can I change the kernel boot parameters? Feb 19 11:21:58 yeah, kind of Feb 19 11:22:01 see, I'm no expert Feb 19 11:22:05 I know how to disable tty Feb 19 11:22:07 that's easy Feb 19 11:22:24 but I don't know if the kernel will let you use the port for normal UART communication Feb 19 11:22:32 you probably need to do some other stuff for it Feb 19 11:22:41 ok Feb 19 11:22:46 probably tell the UART driver to use that device Feb 19 11:22:54 and I have no clue on how to do that Feb 19 11:23:23 disabling the console on the serial port is as simple as editing /etc/inittab in the build system Feb 19 11:23:35 iurgi what is FusionCharts? Feb 19 11:24:12 iurgi: ok. so I need to recompile the kernel and then create a new flash image, right? Feb 19 11:25:31 iosonoio__: no clue :/ Feb 19 11:25:42 zen2: probably, but shouldn't be difficult Feb 19 11:25:54 the part I don't know is how to use the serial port for something else on the kernel Feb 19 11:26:03 probably it works out of the box... Feb 19 11:26:06 iurgi: ok. thanks. Feb 19 11:26:20 but you will need the application that uses /dev/ttyS0 or whatever on the fonera Feb 19 11:26:25 basically I'd say Feb 19 11:26:42 1) disable tts/0::askfirst:/bin/ash --login Feb 19 11:26:42 ttyS0::askfirst:/bin/ash --login Feb 19 11:26:54 these two lines in /etc/inittab on the buildroot Feb 19 11:27:08 2) compile and flash (you can load the kernel for testing without flashing it...) Feb 19 11:27:10 there should be a kernel parameter tty or something like this, I tdon't think you have to recompile, you just have to tell redboot Feb 19 11:27:17 3) install the application that will use the serial port Feb 19 11:27:18 and test Feb 19 11:27:26 ok. thanks Feb 19 11:27:51 in a "normal" pc, you can just remove the "console" part from the kernel boot paramenter Feb 19 11:28:04 should be similar Feb 19 11:28:16 yes, that's my guess too Feb 19 11:29:40 thanks. Feb 19 11:30:29 btw, should I get the latest fw source, or use svn Feb 19 11:30:54 (still don't know where to find it.. I'm looking now at the wiki..) Feb 19 11:31:23 zen2: svn and latest firmware source are the same thing ;) Feb 19 11:32:00 iosonoio: Googla su fusioncharts Feb 19 11:32:03 !! Feb 19 11:32:04 I meant "Caterpillar"... :) Feb 19 11:34:29 svn is at http://svn.fonosfera.org/fon-ng , right? Feb 19 11:38:40 dani Feb 19 11:38:42 ho googlato Feb 19 11:38:50 ma non esce niente relativo Feb 19 11:38:51 alla fonera :D Feb 19 11:41:05 http://www.linux.com/feature/133978 Feb 19 11:41:06 ? Feb 19 11:41:11 <`g0rt> it's possible to crosscompile firmware from source ? Feb 19 11:43:08 sure Feb 19 11:43:26 its based on openwrt Feb 19 11:48:30 `g0rt: sure you have all you need in a svn repository: svn.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ Feb 19 11:48:33 :) Feb 19 11:52:27 <`g0rt> ok Feb 19 11:52:35 <`g0rt> damn i just lost all the config with flashing Feb 19 11:52:44 <`g0rt> is there a default wpa pass to access to private ssid ? Feb 19 11:52:55 <`g0rt> 'coz dhcp on "computer" eth doesn't work Feb 19 11:53:45 it's the serial number Feb 19 11:53:50 under the fonera Feb 19 11:53:51 ;) Feb 19 11:53:51 iosonoio: Certo che sulla fonera non ti da niente... devi programmare tu... scarica la vers free e guarda le wiki, secondo me fa al caso tuo... Feb 19 11:53:58 <`g0rt> that's what i did Feb 19 11:54:00 <`g0rt> doesn't work Feb 19 11:54:01 <`g0rt> :S Feb 19 11:54:17 ma è quello l'url? Feb 19 11:55:46 <`g0rt> ok, essid is included in passphrase calculation Feb 19 11:55:49 <`g0rt> didn't know that Feb 19 11:56:53 <`g0rt> it's ok Feb 19 11:56:58 <`g0rt> green > yellow Feb 19 11:57:34 `g0rt: ? Feb 19 11:57:51 <`g0rt> newer http interface is really nice :) Feb 19 11:59:25 `g0rt: I know :) thanks Feb 19 12:01:32 Danicasti_: è quello che ho scritto sopra l'url? Feb 19 12:05:41 iosonoio: http://www.fusioncharts.com/free/ Feb 19 12:18:40 ok perfetto Feb 19 12:18:45 ;) Feb 19 12:18:48 thx a lot! Feb 19 12:19:33 <`g0rt> iurgi: it's all good :) Feb 19 12:19:42 <`g0rt> exploring via ssh atm Feb 19 12:19:45 `g0rt: great :D Feb 19 12:20:10 hello Feb 19 12:20:17 hi Feb 19 12:21:52 can anybody help me to create a tgz plugin package? Feb 19 12:21:53 i've done one but fonera says "Failure whilst verifying the authenticity." Feb 19 12:24:59 miguelangel: you are using a enduser firmware Feb 19 12:25:21 you cannot install tarballs in enduser image if they are not signed by a trusted source (i.e. fon) Feb 19 12:25:51 I installed "Caterpillar DEVELOPERS FON file" Feb 19 12:26:19 hmmm Feb 19 12:26:27 what color is the interface? Feb 19 12:26:31 green? Feb 19 12:26:34 green Feb 19 12:26:35 yes Feb 19 12:26:35 ok Feb 19 12:26:41 then it's a different problem Feb 19 12:26:41 and i have ssh open Feb 19 12:26:50 ok Feb 19 12:26:52 hmmm Feb 19 12:27:05 is it a normal tarball or does it have the proper plugin format? Feb 19 12:27:49 i have copied the format of another plugin, the printer one Feb 19 12:28:38 and i have used the "upgrade" template from the fonosfera Feb 19 12:28:41 hmmm Feb 19 12:28:49 weird Feb 19 12:28:54 maybe pablo_bz can help you Feb 19 12:29:37 ok, thanks Feb 19 12:30:16 is he online? Feb 19 12:30:26 yes Feb 19 12:30:31 pablo_bz: hello Feb 19 12:30:41 miguelangel: let me slap him Feb 19 12:31:38 miguelangel: did you try to install your .tgz in the "upgrades" page? Feb 19 12:31:53 you should do in the plugins page Feb 19 12:32:34 yes, of course Feb 19 12:32:43 in plugins Feb 19 12:33:09 where it says "Here you can upload and install a plugin." Feb 19 12:33:37 send me the plugin Feb 19 12:34:11 <`g0rt> what's the point with "tun" device ? Feb 19 12:34:13 <`g0rt> i don't get it Feb 19 12:34:22 how? Feb 19 12:34:54 upload it somewhere or send it to pablo at fon Feb 19 12:35:12 .com? Feb 19 12:35:16 yes Feb 19 12:35:40 `g0rt: what do you mean by "point", "why is a tun0 device there?" ? Feb 19 12:35:42 ok Feb 19 12:35:44 `g0rt: it's necessary for coova Feb 19 12:35:50 the hotspot application Feb 19 12:35:54 to share wifi ;) Feb 19 12:36:04 it is created by coova, in fact Feb 19 12:38:17 pablo_bz: do you speak spanish? Feb 19 12:38:35 yes... very badly Feb 19 12:38:39 but he does Feb 19 12:39:00 <`g0rt> pablo_bz: yes Feb 19 12:39:09 you can not distinguish between me and Cervantes Feb 19 12:39:18 lol Feb 19 12:39:31 <`g0rt> coova use it for what kind of use ? Feb 19 12:39:42 do not take on account what a basque says about the spanish of someone from Valladolid Feb 19 12:40:33 * `g0rt is very curious about fonera design Feb 19 12:40:51 `g0rt: it's the hotspot application Feb 19 12:41:13 <`g0rt> ok Feb 19 12:41:29 <`g0rt> why not simply using the ath device ? Feb 19 12:42:31 pablo_bz: ya te lo he mandado, desde Toledo Feb 19 12:42:40 hahahaha Feb 19 12:42:48 miguelangel: bienvenido ;) Feb 19 12:43:01 `g0rt: well it's a long story Feb 19 12:43:08 gracias Feb 19 12:43:31 <`g0rt> iurgi: i guess so, any url to point me to ? Feb 19 12:43:34 to tell it short... coova creates this tunnel and puts all the user traffic in there and controls the access before it gets to the third layer (IP layer) Feb 19 12:43:38 <`g0rt> ( avoiding you to spend too much time ) Feb 19 12:43:48 to understand how coova works? Feb 19 12:43:49 hmmm Feb 19 12:43:55 maybe coova.org can help Feb 19 12:44:01 <`g0rt> ok i'll get a look Feb 19 12:44:10 <`g0rt> tun isn't a tunnel in any way i'm right ? Feb 19 12:44:32 <`g0rt> i mean there's no endpoint outside the fonera ? Feb 19 12:44:46 yes... Feb 19 12:44:52 the endpoint is the fonera itself Feb 19 12:44:56 <`g0rt> ok Feb 19 12:44:57 <`g0rt> get it Feb 19 12:45:32 it's basically a dirty workaround to analize packets at level 2, before they get to level three Feb 19 12:45:39 miguelangel: you did not create the .tgz with gzip, did you? Feb 19 12:45:55 <`g0rt> iurgi: ok Feb 19 12:46:56 pablo_bz: no, with peazip in windows Feb 19 12:47:07 miguelangel: lol :P Feb 19 12:47:15 ok Feb 19 12:47:17 pablo_bz: i can do it in ubuntu Feb 19 12:48:03 there is some kind of over-verification in the new tgzverify library Feb 19 12:48:54 but when you are in developer mode there is no verification at all, it does not make sense Feb 19 12:49:31 <`g0rt> damn my printer doesn't seem to be recognized Feb 19 12:49:41 miguelangel: what is the plugin for? Feb 19 12:49:52 `g0rt: ? did you install the printer plugin? Feb 19 12:49:59 <`g0rt> yep Feb 19 12:50:03 I would say... 90-95% of printers should be recognized Feb 19 12:50:07 <`g0rt> it's an hp officejet Feb 19 12:50:11 how do you know it's not recognized? Feb 19 12:50:17 I bet it works Feb 19 12:50:19 iurgi: fonhome Feb 19 12:50:28 miguelangel: what is that for? Feb 19 12:50:46 <`g0rt> on the http fronted the printer plugin is "off" with a cross Feb 19 12:50:56 ok Feb 19 12:50:57 hmmm Feb 19 12:51:02 iurgi: http://blog.fonosfera.org/la-fonera-20-a-home-automation-device/ Feb 19 12:51:14 `g0rt: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices Feb 19 12:51:22 `g0rt: don't paste it here Feb 19 12:51:22 <`g0rt> nothing in dmesg Feb 19 12:51:26 do it in pastebin.com Feb 19 12:51:37 `g0rt: oh Feb 19 12:51:38 I know Feb 19 12:51:47 did you connect it directly to the F2.0? Feb 19 12:51:58 miguelangel: ah!!! vale! Feb 19 12:51:59 :D Feb 19 12:52:04 I forgot it Feb 19 12:52:04 <`g0rt> Product=EHCI Host Controller Feb 19 12:52:06 cool Feb 19 12:52:07 <`g0rt> nothing else Feb 19 12:52:12 <`g0rt> directly yes Feb 19 12:52:17 <`g0rt> restarted it Feb 19 12:52:17 `g0rt: that won't work Feb 19 12:52:21 <`g0rt> unplug/replug Feb 19 12:52:25 <`g0rt> i need a hub ? Feb 19 12:52:25 most printers are USB 1.1 Feb 19 12:52:28 yes Feb 19 12:52:31 <`g0rt> ok Feb 19 12:52:31 :( Feb 19 12:52:32 sorry Feb 19 12:52:42 reboot and connect it through a hub Feb 19 12:52:45 <`g0rt> no, i'm sorry to be dumb and didn't know that Feb 19 12:52:52 lol, no Feb 19 12:52:54 you don't need to Feb 19 12:52:57 it's normal Feb 19 12:53:01 <`g0rt> i'll buy a hub this afternoon Feb 19 12:53:28 thanks guys Feb 19 12:53:42 i'm going to restart to ubuntu Feb 19 12:53:53 ok Feb 19 12:53:58 `g0rt: good Feb 19 12:54:02 make sure it's 2.0 Feb 19 12:54:04 USB 2.0 Feb 19 12:54:12 otherwise... it's not gonna help Feb 19 12:54:22 <`g0rt> 2.0 uplink 1/2 downlinks Feb 19 12:54:32 <`g0rt> fuck this printer is usb 1 Feb 19 12:54:40 <`g0rt> wth Feb 19 12:54:48 <`g0rt> we're with usb2 for years Feb 19 12:55:25 bye Feb 19 12:56:53 `g0rt: yeah... and usb 2.0 is probably as cheap as 1.1 nowadays... still many devices are manufactured with 1.1... printers, mice, keyboards, webcams... Feb 19 12:56:56 the same .tgz regenerated with gnu gzip also gives the same error Feb 19 12:57:14 <`g0rt> iurgi: kind of heresy imho Feb 19 13:00:42 <`g0rt> the printer backend is cups ? Feb 19 13:01:05 `g0rt: no Feb 19 13:01:09 p910nd Feb 19 13:01:12 <`g0rt> k Feb 19 13:01:20 it basically receives the processed info from the network Feb 19 13:01:26 the drivers are not in the fonera Feb 19 13:01:30 but in your computer Feb 19 13:01:38 so, you install the printer as usual in your computer Feb 19 13:01:51 <`g0rt> cute Feb 19 13:01:56 and then tell windows (or your OS) that the prniter is in http://fonera:9100 Feb 19 13:01:58 that's it Feb 19 13:01:59 ;) Feb 19 13:02:23 <`g0rt> very cute Feb 19 13:03:17 <`g0rt> got to go Feb 19 13:03:20 <`g0rt> thanks for the help Feb 19 13:03:21 <`g0rt> :) Feb 19 13:03:22 <`g0rt> ++ Feb 19 13:03:22 miguelangel: the message is bogus Feb 19 13:03:45 miguelangel: your upgrade script did something wrong, it has nothing to do with the authentication of the package Feb 19 13:04:23 pablo_bz: miguelangel left a while ago Feb 19 13:04:27 you're taking to the wall Feb 19 13:04:28 ... Feb 19 13:04:32 his spirit remains Feb 19 13:04:34 `g0rt: no prob Feb 19 14:42:17 lol Feb 19 14:42:47 "his spirit remains" Feb 19 14:48:11 anyone tried FONBackup_0.2.zip? Feb 19 14:48:25 i didnt Feb 19 15:46:19 guys Feb 19 15:46:23 what is this? Feb 19 15:46:23 http://www.fonera.be/rep/FON2202/index.php?get=319 Feb 19 15:46:29 mmm sorry Feb 19 15:46:39 i mean this :luci-app-statistics_0.9+svn3635-1_mips.ipk Feb 19 15:49:17 collectd-frontend for openwrt Feb 19 15:50:03 however not ported to fon-ng Feb 19 15:52:59 damn :( Feb 19 15:53:19 could be great :( Feb 19 16:00:08 a simple question Feb 19 16:00:34 how i can add in the portforwarding box Feb 19 16:00:39 my own service? Feb 19 16:01:07 i mean for example "fonera webguiv2" Feb 19 16:01:08 ? Feb 19 17:01:32 i get some error with logread -f Feb 19 17:01:33 Feb 19 17:01:01 Fonera local6.err chillispot[11165]: ippool.c: 360: No more IP addresses available Feb 19 17:01:33 Feb 19 17:01:01 Fonera local6.err chillispot[11165]: chilli.c: 2450: Failed allocate dynamic IP address Feb 19 17:01:48 iosonoio__: hmmmm Feb 19 17:01:53 what have you been doing? Feb 19 17:02:07 i just done Feb 19 17:02:33 /etc/init.d/firewall stop Feb 19 17:03:22 oh Feb 19 17:03:22 ok Feb 19 17:03:35 it's probably that you've made coova crazy Feb 19 17:03:38 Feb 19 17:03:01 Fonera local6.err chillispot[11438]: redir.c: 1583: 134 (Transport endpoint is not connected) shutdown socket for writing Feb 19 17:03:38 Feb 19 17:03:01 Fonera local6.err chillispot[11438]: redir.c: 1589: 134 (Transport endpoint is not connected) shutdown socket for reading Feb 19 17:03:45 that error is normal Feb 19 17:03:47 don't worry Feb 19 17:03:50 ok Feb 19 17:03:58 the 'worrying' one is 17:03 < iosonoio__> Feb 19 17:01:01 Fonera local6.err chillispot[11165]: ippool.c: 360: No more IP addresses available Feb 19 17:04:01 17:03 < iosonoio__> Feb 19 17:01:01 Fonera local6.err chillispot[11165]: chilli.c: 2450: Failed allocate dynamic IP address Feb 19 17:04:07 these two are weird Feb 19 17:04:15 but might be explained by the firewall stop Feb 19 17:04:19 ok Feb 19 17:04:22 what for did you stop it? Feb 19 17:04:36 because the portforwarding page doesn't work :D Feb 19 17:04:45 usually, you get this errors when coova tries to listen on an interface with either no IP or a wrong IP address Feb 19 17:04:46 i just started lighttpd on port 81 Feb 19 17:04:54 portforwarding doesn't work? Feb 19 17:04:56 !! Feb 19 17:04:56 and added port rule Feb 19 17:04:58 you sure? Feb 19 17:05:14 mmm i think so Feb 19 17:05:20 maybe it's my fault Feb 19 17:05:25 i added this rule Feb 19 17:05:37 ummn you don't need to / cannot forward things running on the fonera itself Feb 19 17:05:38 port 81 forward to 127.0.0.1 port 81 Feb 19 17:05:55 portforwarding is DNAT = not what you want Feb 19 17:06:06 ok it's my fault :D Feb 19 17:06:08 sorry Feb 19 17:06:19 but i dunno how i can add my own service Feb 19 17:06:30 in the box of port forwarding page Feb 19 17:06:49 why do you want to add it there or better what do you want to do? Feb 19 17:06:50 so the best think for me was to kill the firewall :D Feb 19 17:07:07 i installed lighttp Feb 19 17:07:17 it work on port 81 Feb 19 17:07:25 i want reach it from the wan interface Feb 19 17:07:43 iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 81 -j ACCEPT Feb 19 17:08:15 ok where i can add this so Feb 19 17:08:30 that the fonera get it automatic? Feb 19 17:08:42 firewall.fon Feb 19 17:08:43 ? Feb 19 17:09:13 hmm you should try it, i've no idea atm, sry Feb 19 17:09:21 ok Feb 19 17:10:06 it works Feb 19 17:10:06 ;) Feb 19 17:10:15 if i add it in /etc/firewall.fon Feb 19 17:10:17 great Feb 19 17:10:17 :D Feb 19 17:12:41 iosonoio__: another option is to edit /etc/config/services Feb 19 17:12:47 and add your service there, imho Feb 19 17:13:43 iosonoio: E il supporto php? Feb 19 17:13:45 mmm it's more simple adding one line Feb 19 17:13:47 in that file Feb 19 17:13:58 iosonoio__: but dirtier, probably Feb 19 17:13:58 i don't know what do in the service file Feb 19 17:13:59 :D Feb 19 17:14:11 yessa in service it's more nice of course :D Feb 19 17:34:42 someone know how mount a swap disk for the fonera? Feb 19 17:38:32 swap disk?? Feb 19 17:38:55 you want to use an external drive as a swap partition? Feb 19 17:39:10 well, should be as simple as having an EMPTY partition Feb 19 17:39:28 preferably unformatted so the fonera doesn't try to mount it Feb 19 17:39:34 and use mount to mount it as a swap Feb 19 17:39:46 mount -t swap /dev/sdaX Feb 19 17:39:49 or similar Feb 19 17:39:51 imho Feb 19 17:41:37 mmm Feb 19 17:41:40 i wanna Feb 19 17:41:43 usa a pen drive Feb 19 17:41:44 :D Feb 19 17:42:02 ok Feb 19 17:42:03 well Feb 19 17:42:04 and then Feb 19 17:42:07 you need to have it empty Feb 19 17:42:10 i have to change fstab Feb 19 17:42:11 or with an empty partition Feb 19 17:42:21 if you want it permanent... yes Feb 19 17:42:29 but first try it by hand Feb 19 17:42:33 with mount Feb 19 17:42:33 ok Feb 19 17:42:52 let us know if it works, it could be an interesting feature Feb 19 17:43:00 ok Feb 19 17:48:03 iosonoio__: I think you can't do it right now Feb 19 17:48:11 i'm formitting Feb 19 17:48:24 not formatting but partition Feb 19 17:48:26 a usb pen Feb 19 17:48:32 there's no "swapon" "swapoff" commands on the fonera Feb 19 17:48:33 i'm putting the swap Feb 19 17:48:37 I think you need that Feb 19 17:49:41 can i compile with that support? Feb 19 17:51:42 http://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=12419 Feb 19 17:51:45 can i follow this? Feb 19 17:51:51 is compliant with the fonera? Feb 19 17:53:14 hmmm Feb 19 17:53:42 well Feb 19 17:53:44 not literally Feb 19 17:53:55 first, you need the opkg packages instead of the ipkg ones Feb 19 17:54:00 then, I would do it manually first Feb 19 17:54:01 ok Feb 19 17:54:03 and if it works Feb 19 17:54:09 then you can go for a permanent solution Feb 19 17:54:38 I recommend, once you achieve it: 1) tell us how (wiki?) and 2) make a copy of the conf files, so you can reuse them in case you reset or reflash Feb 19 17:54:43 ;) Feb 19 17:55:33 lol Feb 19 17:55:42 i'm going to install these files Feb 19 17:55:42 kmod-loop_2.6.26.2-fonera2-1_mips.ipk Feb 19 17:55:43 losetup_2.13.0.1-2_mips.ipk Feb 19 17:55:43 swap-utils_2.13.0.1-2_mips.ipk Feb 19 17:55:45 but it sounds doable Feb 19 17:55:49 from here Feb 19 17:55:53 http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openwrt/fon-ng/mips/ Feb 19 17:56:10 ok Feb 19 18:16:04 iurgi? Feb 19 18:17:03 am i in wrong or i can do swap also on a file? Feb 19 18:17:20 so that i don't need to create on my usb pen Feb 19 18:17:30 a partition for swap Feb 19 18:35:22 ok there are some news Feb 19 18:35:28 after all the configuration Feb 19 18:35:30 i get this Feb 19 18:35:31 root@Fonera:~/run/mountd/sda1# /etc/init.d/swap start Feb 19 18:35:31 2000+0 records in Feb 19 18:35:31 2000+0 records out Feb 19 18:35:40 any suggestions? Feb 19 18:37:32 iosonoio__: do you have a /etc/init.d/fstab on the device? Feb 19 18:38:04 mmm Feb 19 18:38:10 wait Feb 19 18:38:26 yes Feb 19 18:38:46 then get rid of the /etc/init.d/swap and /etc/config/swap and put: Feb 19 18:39:14 config swap Feb 19 18:39:14 option device /dev/YourDevice Feb 19 18:39:14 option enabled 1 Feb 19 18:39:20 into /etc/config/fstab Feb 19 18:39:29 and do /etc/init.d/fstab restart Feb 19 18:39:38 config swap Feb 19 18:39:38 option path '/tmp/mounts/usb2g' Feb 19 18:39:38 option filename 'swapfile' Feb 19 18:39:39 option size '2000' Feb 19 18:39:58 CyrusFF: this works out of the box, or only after installing swaputils? Feb 19 18:40:08 after installing Feb 19 18:40:13 the 3 packages Feb 19 18:40:14 before Feb 19 18:40:15 iurgi: i think swaputils is needed Feb 19 18:40:18 ok Feb 19 18:40:19 kmod-loop_2.6.26.2-fonera2-1_mips.ipk Feb 19 18:40:20 losetup_2.13.0.1-2_mips.ipk Feb 19 18:40:20 swap-utils_2.13.0.1-2_mips.ipk Feb 19 18:40:24 only swap-utils Feb 19 18:40:35 what I wonder if it's not gonna make the fonera much slower Feb 19 18:41:01 but can run php server with sql Feb 19 18:41:02 :D Feb 19 18:41:02 imho he needs loopback device stuff if he wants to do on a local file Feb 19 18:41:09 iosonoio__: ah... Feb 19 18:41:10 ok ok Feb 19 18:41:18 you're obssesed with that! Feb 19 18:41:18 lol Feb 19 18:41:25 lol Feb 19 18:41:28 it's gonna be daaaaaaaaaaamn slow, imho Feb 19 18:41:33 but, who knows Feb 19 18:41:34 i wanna try Feb 19 18:41:35 :P Feb 19 18:41:44 we'll see Feb 19 18:41:44 :D Feb 19 18:41:47 bah PHP if i read this 3 letters i am like... bah DO NOT WANT! :-P Feb 19 18:41:59 eheheheh Feb 19 18:42:10 it's just a test Feb 19 18:42:35 a swap-file with loopback etc is probably a bad idea on a filesystem with a journal Feb 19 18:43:09 I guess, just exaplining iosonoio__ why he doesn't need loopbck if he uses his pendrive Feb 19 18:43:13 plus... Feb 19 18:43:21 it's gonna be muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch faster on the pendrive Feb 19 18:43:26 the flash of the fonera is crap Feb 19 18:43:29 REAL CRAP Feb 19 18:43:36 so, iosonoio__ use your pendrive Feb 19 18:43:39 i wanna use a file on my usb pen Feb 19 18:43:40 or suffer Feb 19 18:43:44 ahhhhhhh Feb 19 18:43:44 ok Feb 19 18:43:46 :D Feb 19 18:43:46 :D Feb 19 18:43:53 i'm not still crazy Feb 19 18:43:54 :P Feb 19 18:44:04 hahaha Feb 19 18:44:15 anyway Feb 19 18:44:23 it's created a file Feb 19 18:44:25 named Feb 19 18:44:27 swapfile Feb 19 18:44:31 on my usb pen... Feb 19 18:45:55 ok i'll back in a while Feb 19 18:48:58 ok Feb 19 18:55:49 phaidros: are you greek? Feb 19 18:59:04 guys Feb 19 18:59:08 i got it!! Feb 19 18:59:09 root@Fonera:~# free Feb 19 18:59:09 total used free shared buffers Feb 19 18:59:09 Mem: 29912 23564 6348 0 2604 Feb 19 18:59:09 Swap: 992 0 992 Feb 19 18:59:10 Total: 30904 23564 7340 Feb 19 18:59:11 root@Fonera:~# Feb 19 18:59:33 but it need some changes Feb 19 18:59:34 :D Feb 19 19:01:46 wahooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Feb 19 19:01:48 good job Feb 19 19:01:49 :) Feb 19 19:02:04 and now Feb 19 19:02:11 raise up the swap file Feb 19 19:02:13 until 300mb Feb 19 19:02:14 P H P!!! Feb 19 19:02:14 :P Feb 19 19:02:16 hahaha Feb 19 19:02:19 ahahaha Feb 19 19:02:31 go go fonera2 Feb 19 19:02:32 :D Feb 19 19:04:00 XD Feb 19 19:04:03 it's a nice device ;) Feb 19 19:09:53 * iurgi is leaving Feb 19 19:10:02 a good dinner is awaiting Feb 19 19:10:11 ciao tutti Feb 19 19:10:14 XD Feb 19 19:10:47 hi all. Any one know what opkg repository I should be using to add stuff to my Fon 2? Feb 19 19:11:00 Hi everybody Feb 19 19:12:09 hi Feb 19 19:12:16 hi frany. Fon 2 newbie here. Feb 19 19:12:21 will_d_j: sure Feb 19 19:12:37 http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openwrt/fon-ng/mips/ Feb 19 19:12:51 yes Feb 19 19:13:40 http://downloads.openwrt.org/kamikaze/8.09/atheros/ Feb 19 19:13:48 will_d_j: both should do it Feb 19 19:14:11 http://downloads.openwrt.org/kamikaze/8.09/atheros/packages/ Feb 19 19:14:22 hi frany, any questions? Feb 19 19:14:25 thanks - just added the nslu2 one, did an opkg update, and now trying to install madplay Feb 19 19:14:37 madplay? Feb 19 19:15:03 will_d_j: better use audiocli... Feb 19 19:15:03 yes just asking myself if my attempt to flash the new firmware was a failure Feb 19 19:15:03 for mp3 playback so I can test my soundcard. Feb 19 19:15:19 too many lights are flashing... ;-) Feb 19 19:15:20 will_d_j: we already have support for audio Feb 19 19:15:24 frany: lol Feb 19 19:16:00 will_d_j: what firmware version do you have? Feb 19 19:16:14 rigt one flashs orange - middle one changes from green to orange... Feb 19 19:16:26 frany: seems like you broke it Feb 19 19:16:27 lol Feb 19 19:16:39 :...( Feb 19 19:16:44 i knew it Feb 19 19:16:49 tell me this: do the power (right) and wlan (middle) turn the orange color on and off at the same time? Feb 19 19:16:51 iurgi - I have 2.2.3.0, but I tried audiocli once, and it's hard to see why it doesn't work - wanted commandline tools to test the audio directly - I think my soundcard is not supported Feb 19 19:17:09 will_d_j: most sound cards should work Feb 19 19:17:14 what audiocli version did you test? Feb 19 19:17:23 audiocli_0.1 was not compatible with 2.2.3.0 Feb 19 19:17:25 yes they do Feb 19 19:17:30 I upgrade audiocli to 0.2 yesterday Feb 19 19:17:35 frany: ok, you broke it Feb 19 19:17:38 but acan be fixed ;) Feb 19 19:17:46 good news Feb 19 19:17:51 yes :) Feb 19 19:17:57 but you need some skills Feb 19 19:18:03 not much though, just a bit Feb 19 19:18:05 bad news.. Feb 19 19:18:08 ;-) Feb 19 19:18:09 lol Feb 19 19:18:11 see Feb 19 19:18:15 here you've got a howto Feb 19 19:18:36 http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Firmware_Update_Instructions#Redboot_interface Feb 19 19:18:46 you will need to follow these steps Feb 19 19:18:55 it's explained for windows, mac and linux Feb 19 19:18:57 imho Feb 19 19:19:05 yes, indeed Feb 19 19:19:16 will_d_j: did you try audiocli_0.2? Feb 19 19:20:01 so getting a connect with redboot interface is first part of the mission ? Feb 19 19:20:08 yes Feb 19 19:20:10 :) Feb 19 19:20:21 that's the most difficult part Feb 19 19:20:23 not difficult Feb 19 19:20:25 but tricky Feb 19 19:20:30 you need to coordinate very well Feb 19 19:20:43 because you have only 2 seconds for action! Feb 19 19:21:34 audio working for me!!!!!! Feb 19 19:21:39 will_d_j: :D Feb 19 19:21:41 COOL! Feb 19 19:21:50 how? 0.2? Feb 19 19:24:03 which firmware i should take ? Feb 19 19:24:11 franny latest Feb 19 19:24:16 let me give you the url Feb 19 19:24:40 http://download.fonosfera.org/Caterpillar/20090217_FON2202_2.2.3.0_Caterpillar_developers.image Feb 19 19:24:58 you have link ready...remember my last try wasnt sucessfull ;-) Feb 19 19:25:04 * iurgi thinks will_d_j is so happy with audio he can't reply! Feb 19 19:25:21 i have a tar file and a image file here Feb 19 19:25:27 ? Feb 19 19:25:35 no, the link I gave you is an image Feb 19 19:25:45 use that one if you are going to reflash on redboot Feb 19 19:26:04 a sorry Feb 19 19:26:07 and RedBoot has a progress bar... so DON'T stop it before it finishes Feb 19 19:26:13 or you will have to start again Feb 19 19:26:14 will_d_j: if you hear clicky noises it is a fixed bug Feb 19 19:26:51 the time i flashed trantor it worked fine but this time no orange green light flashed Feb 19 19:27:12 frany: important Feb 19 19:27:35 listening Feb 19 19:27:36 do only this section: "I only want to flash the new firmware" Feb 19 19:27:55 so, once you get tftp running and RedBoot working Feb 19 19:28:00 jump to that section Feb 19 19:28:45 I think I need to edit the howto again Feb 19 19:28:50 someone has put innecessary sutff there Feb 19 19:28:56 and I think I know who it was... Feb 19 19:29:00 sigh Feb 19 19:29:48 hmm i try the first part Feb 19 19:32:41 ok Feb 19 19:32:50 * iurgi is leaving, now for real Feb 19 19:32:51 ciao! Feb 19 19:32:55 frany: good luck Feb 19 19:33:06 I'm sure other people are still there and can help you Feb 19 19:33:13 if not, I'll be online tomorrow all day Feb 19 19:33:14 ok? Feb 19 19:33:15 ok thanks Feb 19 19:33:21 well see ;-) Feb 19 19:33:25 just ping me when you need the help Feb 19 19:33:37 ok Feb 19 19:33:40 thx Feb 19 19:33:44 iurgi: no sry, I am not greek Feb 19 19:33:44 and don't worry Feb 19 19:33:52 it's veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery difficult to break the fonera Feb 19 19:34:00 iurgi: it's not ;) Feb 19 19:34:00 :D Feb 19 19:34:02 unless you reflash redboot, you won't break it Feb 19 19:34:14 so NEVER EVER do: fis delete RedBoot Feb 19 19:34:21 :) Feb 19 19:34:24 .... Feb 19 19:34:27 and i did it.. Feb 19 19:34:31 phaidros: no? do you know any other ways? Feb 19 19:34:37 frany: no, you didn't Feb 19 19:34:49 if you did that, you would need to throw the fonera to the trash Feb 19 19:35:04 phaidros: the name sounds greek ;) Feb 19 19:35:12 yes only big injury no death Feb 19 19:35:17 exactly Feb 19 19:35:23 so, as long as you don't run that command Feb 19 19:35:25 you're safe Feb 19 19:35:31 i wont Feb 19 19:35:52 phaidros: so, any other easy ways you can think of? XD Feb 19 19:35:55 i do some warm up for that 2 secind thing Feb 19 19:36:02 hehehe Feb 19 19:36:04 good Feb 19 19:36:06 you'll need it Feb 19 19:36:09 it's not easy Feb 19 19:36:13 many people desperate Feb 19 19:36:17 and think it doesn't work Feb 19 19:36:23 and suddenly... there it is! Feb 19 19:36:24 :D Feb 19 19:43:03 hmm Feb 19 19:43:19 ? Feb 19 19:44:22 ok i started tftpd and took the directory with the fiels Feb 19 19:44:57 i start putty and use telnet on 192168.1.1 port 9000 to connect when i get a ping respond Feb 19 19:46:26 yes Feb 19 19:46:31 is that right ? Feb 19 19:46:33 ok Feb 19 19:46:52 and i ping wit h the command line Feb 19 19:46:53 you start putty, configure it Feb 19 19:46:59 then start the ping Feb 19 19:47:02 and as soon as you see a reply Feb 19 19:47:11 click connect on putty Feb 19 19:47:19 (I think it says "open") Feb 19 19:47:28 yes open button Feb 19 19:47:33 exactly Feb 19 19:47:43 you click on open once you see the first ping reply Feb 19 19:48:00 I think I will make a video of this... Feb 19 19:48:03 any way to keep the ping alive i think normal it drops after five attempts or so or just repaet manually Feb 19 19:48:04 so people sees it Feb 19 19:48:10 it's easier than explaining Feb 19 19:48:17 there's a way Feb 19 19:48:18 but Feb 19 19:48:28 no more skill ;-) Feb 19 19:48:29 ping 192.168.1.1 -t Feb 19 19:48:33 :) Feb 19 19:48:35 ah Feb 19 19:48:39 ahh, same as linux? Feb 19 19:48:40 ok Feb 19 19:48:50 under linux i dont know Feb 19 19:49:02 in linux it's the same Feb 19 19:49:03 ping -t 192.168.1.1 Feb 19 19:49:04 ;) Feb 19 19:49:07 ah Feb 19 19:49:07 no Feb 19 19:49:08 no Feb 19 19:49:09 sorry Feb 19 19:49:10 damn Feb 19 19:49:13 hahahaha Feb 19 19:49:22 in linux it's permanent by default Feb 19 19:49:23 lol Feb 19 19:49:31 frany: yes Feb 19 19:50:06 ok its pinging unplugging the device.. Feb 19 19:52:22 so the ping doesnt repsonse at all Feb 19 19:52:42 frany: did you configure your pc correctly? Feb 19 19:52:48 do you set the network interface manually to the correct subnet? Feb 19 19:53:04 checking Feb 19 19:53:09 probably that Feb 19 19:53:16 kazwo: I leave frany on your hands ;) Feb 19 19:53:19 I need to leave Feb 19 19:53:24 ok my fault Feb 19 19:53:24 okay Feb 19 19:53:25 (for the forth time now... lol) Feb 19 19:53:27 have fun :) Feb 19 19:53:32 thanks Feb 19 19:53:33 :D Feb 19 19:53:34 yes thx dont wait.. Feb 19 19:53:37 i struggle Feb 19 19:55:12 the first time is always something special ;) Feb 19 19:55:16 k got something Feb 19 19:55:45 i have a redboot> Feb 19 19:55:51 hehe Feb 19 19:56:00 oh man Feb 19 19:56:09 fein :) Feb 19 19:56:13 ahhahaah Feb 19 19:56:13 i got Feb 19 19:56:15 php info Feb 19 19:56:18 with the fonera!!! Feb 19 19:56:21 it works!! Feb 19 19:56:26 a heartbeat Feb 19 19:56:48 oh my Feb 19 19:56:50 revolution is coming... Feb 19 19:57:02 iurgi: welcome back Feb 19 19:57:07 lol Feb 19 19:57:12 I'm waiting for a car ride Feb 19 19:57:13 so now i dont touch anything... ;-) Feb 19 19:57:21 <`g0rt> heartbeat ? Feb 19 19:57:22 frany: tftp is set up? Feb 19 19:57:29 yes Feb 19 19:57:34 then load the image Feb 19 19:57:39 frany: now you can follow the commands at the wiki Feb 19 19:57:54 yes, the section I told you "I only want to reflash the new image" Feb 19 19:57:59 3 commands in total Feb 19 19:58:04 this one: Feb 19 19:58:17 frany: load -r -b %{FREEMEMLO} openwrt-fonera.image Feb 19 19:58:26 yes Feb 19 19:58:41 load -r -b %{FREEMEMLO} 20090217_FON2202_2.2.3.0_Caterpillar_developers.image Feb 19 19:58:46 fi de image Feb 19 19:58:48 fi cr image Feb 19 19:58:52 that's all Feb 19 19:58:57 then wait 20 min Feb 19 19:59:01 but i think you have to replace the openwrt-fonera.image part with the correct image name Feb 19 19:59:05 till all the dots are shown Feb 19 19:59:08 can irename the image to prevent my fingers break? Feb 19 19:59:12 sure Feb 19 19:59:20 frany call it: a Feb 19 19:59:21 :D Feb 19 19:59:57 my fridge just told me that i will receive a beer when i make it... Feb 19 20:00:03 you can even past it by right klick Feb 19 20:00:06 haha Feb 19 20:01:32 iosonoio__: so? how's performance? Feb 19 20:02:25 ok so now "fis delete image" Feb 19 20:02:34 did it load properly? Feb 19 20:02:56 fi de image <- works as well and it's shorter for your fingers ;) Feb 19 20:03:21 then: fi cr image Feb 19 20:03:29 "image" here is the name of the partition Feb 19 20:03:39 not the actual binary you uploaded, don't mix them Feb 19 20:03:51 mmm i just showed up the phpinfo page Feb 19 20:03:52 :D Feb 19 20:03:53 so, in order to flash, you don't need to give the name of the file Feb 19 20:03:57 iosonoio__: cool Feb 19 20:03:58 :) Feb 19 20:03:59 guys Feb 19 20:03:59 no tried anithing helse Feb 19 20:04:01 else Feb 19 20:04:01 :D Feb 19 20:04:03 this time is for real Feb 19 20:04:07 C I A O!!!!! Feb 19 20:04:09 hahaah Feb 19 20:04:14 ahahhaha Feb 19 20:04:16 ciaoooo Feb 19 20:04:16 frany: you're almost done, good luck Feb 19 20:04:18 iurgi: see you soon Feb 19 20:04:21 iosonoio__: congrats ;) Feb 19 20:04:24 i lost the connection after fis delete image Feb 19 20:04:29 kazwo: tomorrow ; Feb 19 20:04:35 frany: ooppps Feb 19 20:04:43 I heard similar behavior from a friend Feb 19 20:04:46 he just kept trying Feb 19 20:04:50 till it worked :O Feb 19 20:04:54 ah ok back again Feb 19 20:04:54 good luck Feb 19 20:04:54 ciao Feb 19 20:04:58 ciao Feb 19 20:05:00 hmmm strange Feb 19 20:05:07 frany: just reconnect with putty Feb 19 20:05:33 ok now i create Feb 19 20:06:24 create takes ~20 min. maybe some minutes longer Feb 19 20:06:52 ok its the "flashing" Feb 19 20:06:55 ? Feb 19 20:07:21 yes its the flashing progress Feb 19 20:07:37 should i stop pinging ? Feb 19 20:08:05 yes, you dont need it anymore Feb 19 20:08:12 ok Feb 19 20:09:06 so i take break until - and hope to report success later thx Feb 19 20:09:08 the pinging is just to know when redboot is available. because of the small time window to press crtl + c Feb 19 20:09:26 now you can get your schneider weiße :) Feb 19 20:10:38 hehe yes i have a "hefeweizen" inside but no schneider weiße ;-) Feb 19 20:11:07 :) Feb 19 20:12:28 iurgi - I now have audiocli installed, but it doesn't play my MP3s on my usb disk. Feb 19 20:12:46 But madplay working fine form command line playing internet radio station - except no volume control Feb 19 20:18:27 hm, i forgot what i wanted to do Feb 19 20:19:10 back and waiting Feb 19 20:19:26 welcome back Feb 19 20:20:43 have there been some "3G" fixes since trantor ? Feb 19 20:21:32 hmm dont know Feb 19 20:21:48 k Feb 19 20:24:21 anyone know how to change volume level of soundcard? Feb 19 20:24:52 no sorry Feb 19 20:32:22 i just checked the umts mode and it works with the huawai e800 and a delock express card to usb adapter Feb 19 20:32:57 my soundcard doesn't do volume control :-( Feb 19 20:32:58 ok is it normal to get some erase and programm messages while doing "fis create image" ? Feb 19 20:33:13 frany - yes Feb 19 20:33:23 i use a E169 Feb 19 20:34:14 that adapter is nice friend of mine uses it on his macbook Feb 19 20:36:04 so if have the command line "redboot>" again Feb 19 20:37:21 do ihave to stop putty to get access via webinterface 192.168.1.1. again ? Feb 19 20:38:41 hm Feb 19 20:38:42 still looks like flashing but the redboot prompt already there Feb 19 20:39:35 the left green led is on sometimes flashing Feb 19 20:40:37 or do i have to reboot ? Feb 19 20:40:47 questions questions questions.... ;-) Feb 19 20:40:58 i think you can restart, but iam not sure. Feb 19 20:41:02 ping is working Feb 19 20:44:44 try a reboot Feb 19 20:46:15 anyone got umts modem working on 'three' network? Feb 19 20:46:48 is three your provider ? Feb 19 20:47:14 will_d_j: no sorry. just o2 germany Feb 19 20:47:27 me too Feb 19 20:47:31 yes frany Feb 19 20:47:36 3 UK. Feb 19 20:47:44 with a H156G modem Feb 19 20:47:47 sorry o2 germany Feb 19 20:47:54 it works on my Aspire 1. Feb 19 20:48:41 i have a huawei e169 - judt plugge it in and it worked Feb 19 20:49:24 http://wiki.sakasolutions.com/index.php?title=UK_apn Feb 19 20:49:31 maybe this helps you Feb 19 20:50:16 mmm - it dials up ok, and gets an IP address, and DNS server, but routing table seems screwed up and I can't ping anything. Feb 19 20:50:30 ? Feb 19 20:51:57 hmmm Feb 19 20:52:37 have you tried to add manually analternate dns server ? Feb 19 20:54:34 i got it... its working again.....wheres the beer..... Feb 19 20:54:57 in the refrigerator :D Feb 19 20:55:00 congratz :) Feb 19 20:55:59 pppffffffllooppp.....hhmmrgghh..hhmmmrrghh.....hhmmmrrtggh.....aaaaah Feb 19 20:56:12 :) Feb 19 20:57:17 ok so short break i am off and try to connect with fonera an 3g again... Feb 19 20:57:47 good luck :) Feb 19 20:58:10 apn: surfo2 Feb 19 21:01:34 ok got it Feb 19 21:02:03 nice :) Feb 19 21:03:20 there is such way for install with opkg all the packages that start with for example "perl" Feb 19 21:03:20 ? Feb 19 21:07:07 k guys thx all thx kazwo and iurgi... until next time ;-) Feb 19 21:07:34 frany_: have fun :) Feb 19 21:08:25 ich hol mir nun auch noch ne halbe und hau mich schlafen :) Feb 19 21:08:29 good night all :) Feb 19 21:14:20 UMTS modem working - woohooo! Feb 19 21:17:30 I had to manually set the DNS server in resolv.conf Feb 19 21:21:30 have opened a TRAC ticket for this Feb 19 21:58:46 will_d_j: good Feb 19 21:58:53 we will take this on account ;) Feb 19 22:03:34 will_d_j: ok Feb 19 22:03:52 blogic: the list I gave you Feb 19 22:04:00 does also contain the dns servers :) Feb 19 22:04:30 i know Feb 19 22:04:32 :) Feb 19 22:05:02 ok Feb 19 22:06:35 thanks Feb 19 22:08:02 will_d_j: pablo_bz can probably help you with madplay and audiocli Feb 19 22:09:18 Ahh ok - well madplay works fine - it's just my sound card volume is not controllable as far as I can see. I tried the Alsa sound utilities and they can't control the volume Feb 19 22:09:53 will_d_j: strange Feb 19 22:09:53 audiocli seems completely broken. - I pointed it at some mp3s on my flash card, that play find with madplay on command line, and it didn't play them Feb 19 22:10:12 what audiocli version? Feb 19 22:10:15 0.2? Feb 19 22:10:51 yes. I could add the files to a play list, and it seems to just loop round them very quickly, like it thought the files were not there. Feb 19 22:11:05 hmmm Feb 19 22:11:43 that's straneg Feb 19 22:12:13 it works for us Feb 19 22:12:23 and I guess that's soundcard independent Feb 19 22:12:37 it could be the filenames - they've got funny chars in them like - and ' Feb 19 22:12:45 oh Feb 19 22:12:47 hmmm Feb 19 22:12:49 maybe Feb 19 22:12:49 just going to try renaming them to simple names Feb 19 22:12:54 .... Feb 19 22:12:54 try renaming one Feb 19 22:12:56 yes Feb 19 22:13:17 if it's that, we'll look into it and fix it for next release Feb 19 22:17:18 irgui - audiocli works ok with my filenames now. Feb 19 22:17:31 willdj: ok Feb 19 22:17:34 I sometimes find that a full reboot of the router seems to resolve problems sometimes Feb 19 22:17:36 interesting Feb 19 22:17:51 what kind of problems? Feb 19 22:18:01 willdj: the dns problem ? Feb 19 22:18:23 no - audiocli Feb 19 22:18:33 willdj: ok Feb 19 22:18:42 audiocli is still a pre 1.0 Feb 19 22:18:55 so as far as I remember - I added the plugin, then went to the audiocli page, and it was not working properly. Feb 19 22:18:59 until I rebooted. Feb 19 22:19:03 pablo_bz has made very good advances, but the "thing" he is building will take a nother bit of time Feb 19 22:19:09 willdj: yes Feb 19 22:19:23 the problem is, the soundcard currently needs to be attached, then the fonera bootd Feb 19 22:19:27 anyway - more of a problem is that I can't control the volume - well I can, but the audio is all distorted Feb 19 22:19:31 the hotplug event is still missing Feb 19 22:19:35 ahhh Feb 19 22:19:44 the volume and distortion is already fixed Feb 19 22:19:50 hmmm. Feb 19 22:19:51 how? Feb 19 22:19:57 in 0.2? Feb 19 22:20:01 or in a new version? Feb 19 22:20:02 no Feb 19 22:20:18 in a new version Feb 19 22:20:27 ahhhh - great - you guys are the best! :-) Feb 19 22:20:32 willdj: thx Feb 19 22:20:41 the distort happens when amplitude goes over the top Feb 19 22:20:45 willdj: i saw pablo_bz control audiocli from his ipod touch last week :) Feb 19 22:20:50 so, stick to gentle songs :) Feb 19 22:20:52 it is still very ugly, but it works Feb 19 22:21:01 cool! Feb 19 22:21:13 i will always be as ugly, i am not plastic surger Feb 19 22:21:33 Also - i noticed that if oyu point web browser at router IP, the redirect page takes you straight to audiocli, rather than dashboard - is that on purpose? Feb 19 22:21:45 also fixed :) Feb 19 22:21:53 sweet! Feb 19 22:21:58 the audiocli you have is our very first version Feb 19 22:22:03 it plays mp3, that is all Feb 19 22:22:06 and not very well Feb 19 22:22:11 0.3 will be out soonish Feb 19 22:22:13 :) Feb 19 22:22:36 cool - will it also allow you to point it at a MP3 stream like shoutcast? Feb 19 22:23:04 ^_^ Feb 19 22:23:14 and, also another cool feature Feb 19 22:23:15 :) Feb 19 22:23:22 pablo_bz: explain your plan please Feb 19 22:24:12 . Feb 19 22:25:00 i am doing a multiplatform multiclient for all the multiplugins in la fonera Feb 19 22:25:06 starting with audiod Feb 19 22:25:24 so you can control it from Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, Iphone OS and Android Feb 19 22:25:41 ahhh - clever! Feb 19 22:25:59 making playlists for the audio player, going next song, previous song, getting volume Feb 19 22:26:02 and more useful Feb 19 22:26:05 and it already works and is faster from a ipod over wifi then in the webgui Feb 19 22:26:13 just do streaming so you get wireless speakers Feb 19 22:26:14 *drumroll* Feb 19 22:26:19 this is the killer feature Feb 19 22:26:21 ----> Feb 19 22:26:44 nice! Feb 19 22:27:19 so, pablo_bz basically hijacks sound on your windows pc and sends it to the fonera Feb 19 22:27:39 so, you can even use itunes but use the fonera to play the sound Feb 19 22:27:40 like airtunes on mac Feb 19 22:27:45 exactly the same itunes does with the airport station Feb 19 22:27:49 but we do the hackers solutin Feb 19 22:27:57 cool. Feb 19 22:28:06 apple does the encrypted propriatory protocl Feb 19 22:28:11 we do "chillout" Feb 19 22:28:12 :) Feb 19 22:28:19 XD Feb 19 22:28:20 nice. changing subject... Feb 19 22:28:24 yes Feb 19 22:28:37 What's the deal with using USB hub or not for stuff? Feb 19 22:28:42 iosonoio: Allora come va il php??? Feb 19 22:29:04 I ask as currently it seems you need 2 or 3 AC adaptors to do stuff with a fonera. Feb 19 22:29:08 willdj: fonera20 only works with F2.0 Feb 19 22:29:11 sorry Feb 19 22:29:16 with USB2.0 Feb 19 22:29:46 ok - so hub allows 'conversion' to usb1.1? Feb 19 22:29:53 for older slow devices? Feb 19 22:30:07 yes, with a usb 2.0 hub, any device works Feb 19 22:30:25 ok. plus also power is an issue right? Feb 19 22:30:34 e.g. UMTS modem and HDDs use too much power? Feb 19 22:30:51 hmmm I think UMTS can be handled Feb 19 22:31:01 and 2,5" disks too Feb 19 22:31:17 bigger disks usually have a power suply Feb 19 22:31:29 it's more like various devices combined are a problem Feb 19 22:32:06 my 2.5" disk does work directly - maxtor onetouch mini Feb 19 22:32:12 I mean does not work. Feb 19 22:32:21 umts depends Feb 19 22:32:22 is it 2.0? Feb 19 22:32:28 some modems will work, others dont Feb 19 22:32:28 blogic: ah, ok Feb 19 22:32:33 it just clicks - trying to spin up until I connect a second USB plug to it Feb 19 22:32:42 2,5" will normally work, as it uses 5V Feb 19 22:32:48 a 3,5V needs 12V Feb 19 22:33:09 Right - but current draw is a problem too Feb 19 22:33:16 so a usb->3,5" has a 5V->12V step up regulator and if the circuit is bad it will eat too much power Feb 19 22:33:25 yeah Feb 19 22:33:29 current is 1 thing Feb 19 22:34:00 but the 12V at spinup, requires "too" much "too" fast normally and the regulator in the fonera cannot provide it fast enough Feb 19 22:34:23 ok - well I don't expect 3.5 inch to work. Feb 19 22:34:51 but 2.5 would be nice - depends on drive I expect, I might start a wiki page to record which drives are ok on a single USB port for power Feb 19 22:35:11 I ahve one of these straight on the back of my fon: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Combo-USB-2-0-Hub-and-All-in-One-Card-Reader_W0QQitemZ260363914058QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Photography_MemoryCardReaders_RL?hash=item260363914058&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 Feb 19 22:35:37 willdj: i have a maxtor summin directly attached Feb 19 22:36:18 that is my main fonera Feb 19 22:36:31 maxtor summin? Feb 19 22:36:45 maxtor xyz 2,5" usb hdd Feb 19 22:38:02 ok - mine is this: http://www.maxtor.com/en/hard-drive-backup/external-drives/maxtor-onetouch-4-mini.html - does not work unless you use it's special USB cable that steals power from a further USB port Feb 19 22:38:15 it appears to trigger the USB current protection cut out Feb 19 22:39:15 ok Feb 19 22:39:34 the fonera after all is a small guy Feb 19 22:39:35 :) Feb 19 22:39:53 i mean... looks what we amnaged to get out of 8MB flash and 180Mhz Feb 19 22:39:57 and 32MB ram Feb 19 22:39:59 :) Feb 19 22:40:20 well actually the fonera is a sexy chica Feb 19 22:40:27 i gues thats better for marketing Feb 19 22:40:28 :) Feb 19 22:40:33 yep - BUT... my old iBook 60Gb disk, in an 'i-mate' caddy from Ebay works ok! Feb 19 22:40:50 yeah Feb 19 22:41:09 it depends on the power curcuit in the usb2ide/sata convertor Feb 19 22:41:23 yep - so I shall reformat that to FAT32 I think! Feb 19 22:42:26 * iurgi uses ext3 Feb 19 22:42:33 right - I need to go to sleep now. Thanks for the chat - really love the FON 2.0, and looking forward to new stuff like the audiocli updates. I hope to contribute something Feb 19 22:42:44 cool, htx Feb 19 22:42:48 willdj: you0re welcome Feb 19 22:42:57 good words make us always happy Feb 19 22:43:05 espacially pablo_bz Feb 19 22:43:07 maybe for digital photo frame updating from the Fonera 2.0 - my sony one has a USB cable Feb 19 22:43:11 he starts flipping Feb 19 22:43:20 lol Feb 19 22:43:24 hehe Feb 19 22:43:27 willdj: yeah, that would be a cool idea Feb 19 22:43:31 not a bad idea... Feb 19 22:43:34 indeed Feb 19 22:43:41 my mother couldl use that Feb 19 22:43:45 she loves her frame Feb 19 22:43:53 but can¡t put all the pics she wants Feb 19 22:43:55 :) Feb 19 22:43:59 that's why I wanted to do it - for my parents to get feed of picassa album from me Feb 19 22:44:08 use picassa RSS feed and update frame Feb 19 22:44:09 cool Feb 19 22:44:14 yeah Feb 19 22:44:16 very nice Feb 19 22:44:27 you have a project ;) Feb 19 22:44:37 but it needs hardware mod for my frame - as when USB is plugged in, it goes to mass storage mode until you physically unplug cable :-( Feb 19 22:44:51 ohhhhhhhh Feb 19 22:44:53 ok Feb 19 22:44:56 so making cheap 'USB' disconnect box, controlled by USB. Feb 19 22:45:21 but other frames might be ok. guess need to make wiki page and get other people to test theirs. Feb 19 22:45:34 yeah Feb 19 22:45:47 goodnight all Feb 19 22:45:53 nite **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Feb 20 02:59:58 2009