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Mar 03 07:24:31 <kazwo> good morning
Mar 03 07:38:34 <Danicasti_> Hi!
Mar 03 07:39:59 <kazwo> hi
Mar 03 08:37:51 <fon_> tired this (http://logout.hu/iras/torrent_7_24.html) . Work quite great
Mar 03 08:38:50 <fon_> *tried
Mar 03 08:40:31 <MDVz0r> can you translate it into english fon_ ? :P
Mar 03 08:41:13 <fon_> i used google translate.
Mar 03 08:43:31 <MDVz0r> ah ok
Mar 03 08:43:32 <MDVz0r> thanks
Mar 03 08:43:49 <fon_> :p
**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 03 11:01:27 2009
Mar 03 11:03:04 <iurgi> fon_: how's the performance?
Mar 03 11:59:18 <kazwo> \o/
Mar 03 12:07:51 <blogic> hi kazwo
Mar 03 12:07:56 <blogic> hmm
Mar 03 12:08:02 <blogic> i am now 30 years and 1 day
Mar 03 12:08:05 <kazwo> hi blogic
Mar 03 12:08:07 <blogic> i dont feel old
Mar 03 12:08:14 <blogic> i am a bit hungover :)
Mar 03 12:08:17 <kazwo> blogic: congratz :)
Mar 03 12:08:20 <blogic> thx
Mar 03 12:08:24 <blogic> it was nasty
Mar 03 12:08:30 <blogic> i mainly got alcohol as presents
Mar 03 12:08:34 <blogic> \o/
Mar 03 12:08:44 <blogic> lots od vodky
Mar 03 12:08:46 <blogic> lots od vodka
Mar 03 12:09:28 <kazwo> vodka ... 30y and 1day or 30y and 1week? :D
Mar 03 12:11:59 <blogic> haha
Mar 03 12:12:06 <Decodecoding> Congratulations. Welcome to youy 30's, the golden decade  :D
Mar 03 12:21:41 <blogic> oh dear
Mar 03 12:21:43 <blogic> i am old
Mar 03 12:21:45 <blogic> :)
Mar 03 13:04:21 <DaGo> hi
Mar 03 13:04:44 <iurgi> hi DaGo
Mar 03 14:11:15 <orazio> hello, which is the policy about package modification/updating? does fon grab them from openwrt or make its own mods?
Mar 03 14:11:41 <iurgi> both things
Mar 03 14:12:07 <iurgi> thiknking of making a package?
Mar 03 14:12:19 <orazio> I update the transmission bittorent package
Mar 03 14:13:10 <orazio> and I sent the patch to openwrt-devel ml
Mar 03 14:13:48 <orazio> so I wonder if you works on the same packages
Mar 03 14:13:58 <iurgi> hmmm
Mar 03 14:14:08 <iurgi> we were about to give it a try, right blogic ?
Mar 03 14:14:20 <blogic> orazio: hi
Mar 03 14:14:29 <orazio> hello :)
Mar 03 14:14:30 <blogic> orazio: did you stress test transmission ?
Mar 03 14:14:37 <blogic> i mean
Mar 03 14:14:43 <blogic> have it download several big files ?
Mar 03 14:14:54 <blogic> i normally try like 5-6 cd iso images from debian
Mar 03 14:14:59 <orazio> just tonight a dvdrip :)
Mar 03 14:15:04 <blogic> ok
Mar 03 14:15:11 <orazio> but the old package
Mar 03 14:15:12 <blogic> orazio: can you send me the packages ?
Mar 03 14:15:14 <orazio> has some bugs
Mar 03 14:15:18 <blogic> ?
Mar 03 14:15:25 <blogic> crashes or gui bugs ?
Mar 03 14:15:28 <orazio> it do not ships web interfaces files
Mar 03 14:15:37 <blogic> ok
Mar 03 14:15:43 <blogic> you have sent it to owrt-devel ?
Mar 03 14:15:50 <orazio> and the transmission-daemon 1.34 do not work in background (!)
Mar 03 14:15:52 * blogic checks mails
Mar 03 14:15:53 <orazio> yes
Mar 03 14:15:59 <blogic> ok
Mar 03 14:16:09 <xMff> orazio: both problems where just addressed
Mar 03 14:16:18 <blogic> xMff: is it fixed in trunk ?
Mar 03 14:16:23 <blogic> i will test it in a sec
Mar 03 14:16:26 <xMff> blogic: in about two minutes
Mar 03 14:16:32 <blogic> xMff: thx
Mar 03 14:16:41 <blogic> orazio: i will test it on the fonera in a sec
Mar 03 14:16:50 <xMff> the does not work in background thing is just the usual uclibc bug
Mar 03 14:16:57 <blogic> xMff: ?
Mar 03 14:16:59 <blogic> whch one ?
Mar 03 14:17:01 <xMff> workaround is to use ssd
Mar 03 14:17:07 <xMff> start-stop-daemon
Mar 03 14:17:10 <blogic> ah ok
Mar 03 14:17:19 <xMff> blogic: pthread_create after fork causes deadlock
Mar 03 14:17:24 <CyrusFF> orazio: "Moreover I remove the transissioncli and transmission-remote " - you shouldn't remove the cli, it is in most cases more useful to have the CLI than the WebUI
Mar 03 14:17:38 <blogic> yeah
Mar 03 14:17:39 <blogic> well
Mar 03 14:17:47 <blogic> we can package the cli in a seperate ipkg imho
Mar 03 14:17:51 <xMff> orazio: oh I guess it's your patch then ;)
Mar 03 14:18:11 <orazio> xMff:  were it has been addressed the issue ?
Mar 03 14:18:12 * xMff is currently looking at it
Mar 03 14:18:17 <CyrusFF> blogic: orazio: yes and the webui should also be not part of the main-apackge but a separate one
Mar 03 14:18:25 <blogic> yes
Mar 03 14:18:31 <blogic> we should make 3 packages
Mar 03 14:18:36 <blogic> core, webui, cli
Mar 03 14:18:48 <orazio> ok
Mar 03 14:18:54 <xMff> orazio: the background deamon problem can be work around with a modified init script, no big deal#
Mar 03 14:19:27 <orazio> xMff: yes I used the -f & :-)
Mar 03 14:19:37 <orazio> but the newer version solves this bug so....
Mar 03 14:19:41 <xMff> start-stop-deamon is cleaner :)
Mar 03 14:19:49 <xMff> ok
Mar 03 14:20:09 <orazio> I make all in a package because the transmission-daemon (the core) embedded the web server
Mar 03 14:21:12 <orazio> and of course it does not run without the html files
Mar 03 14:21:12 <orazio> btw I'm a little beginner with the package repository so I don't know the philosophy :)
Mar 03 14:21:37 <xMff> I'd vote for transmission-common, transmission-cli and transmission-webif or so
Mar 03 14:23:13 <xMff> transmission-daemon instead of transmission-common
Mar 03 14:23:18 <xMff> objections?
Mar 03 14:24:11 <iurgi> sounds reasonable
Mar 03 14:24:12 <orazio> "transmission-remote" is part of the cli with the "tranmissioncli" binary?
Mar 03 14:24:32 <iurgi> the problem might be splitting transmissino to transmission-common and -webif
Mar 03 14:26:16 <blogic> xMff: ack
Mar 03 14:26:20 <iurgi> orazio said they're mixed?
Mar 03 14:27:47 <CyrusFF> IMO if the httpd cannot be separated and only adds like 5 KB it should be fine to just spearate the html-files
Mar 03 14:28:37 <iurgi> but it runs standalone even if it doesn't have the html?
Mar 03 14:28:43 <iurgi> then I think it makes sense, yes
Mar 03 14:29:12 <iurgi> but if youu need either webif or cli (I guess so ;D) then there has to be a way to force installing one of them
Mar 03 14:29:15 <iurgi> no?
Mar 03 14:29:35 <orazio> yes, the transmission-daemon embedded the web server, the size of the web directory is
Mar 03 14:29:49 <orazio> 470 kb (on the fonera)
Mar 03 14:29:52 <CyrusFF> WTF
Mar 03 14:30:26 <CyrusFF> thats a half openssl ;-)
Mar 03 14:30:43 <orazio> it's 2.0 :)
Mar 03 14:30:54 <CyrusFF> what is 2.0?
Mar 03 14:30:57 <iurgi> it's huge!
Mar 03 14:30:59 <orazio> web 2.0
Mar 03 14:31:00 <orazio> :)
Mar 03 14:31:02 <CyrusFF> wb 2.0 sucks
Mar 03 14:31:02 <iurgi> lol
Mar 03 14:31:28 <blogic> CyrusFF: we will strip it
Mar 03 14:31:31 <blogic> i guess :)
Mar 03 14:31:41 <CyrusFF> blogic: i hope so
Mar 03 14:31:44 <CyrusFF> ;-)
Mar 03 14:31:54 <orazio> I stripped off the .svn dir that otherwise are shipped too with the web files
Mar 03 14:31:59 <blogic> i am just adding final touches to the youtube plugin and will start on the transmission f00 tomorrow, if it passes my testing
Mar 03 14:32:12 <blogic> orazio: no, i mean strip as in remove it completley
Mar 03 14:32:19 <blogic> we have our own torrent gui already :)
Mar 03 14:32:35 <orazio> ah ok...luci based?
Mar 03 14:33:04 <blogic> yes
Mar 03 14:33:09 <blogic> with seatrch function etc
Mar 03 14:33:13 <Decodecoding> blogic, I will receive the youtube plugin clapping my hands
Mar 03 14:33:21 <blogic> the problem is the torrent client beneath it still has bugs
Mar 03 14:33:29 <blogic> Decodecoding: hehe
Mar 03 14:33:34 <blogic> Decodecoding: it is almost ready
Mar 03 14:33:42 <Decodecoding> cool :D
Mar 03 14:33:46 <blogic> i just need to test it properly and make sure i have all border cases covered
Mar 03 14:34:06 <Decodecoding> If I can help testing let me know
Mar 03 14:34:30 <orazio> blogic: what is the client you use? transmission of you make also the bt client ?
Mar 03 14:35:04 <blogic> we use a modified version of transmission
Mar 03 14:35:08 <blogic> but it is nohttp://www.myopenrouter.com/forum/thread/10887/Anyone-interested-in-running-OpenWRT-based-FON-firmware/t stable
Mar 03 14:35:11 <blogic> oops
Mar 03 14:35:16 <blogic> crappy touchpad
Mar 03 14:35:48 <orazio> ok!
Mar 03 14:36:04 <orazio> btw some of you guys will go to the wireless community weekend in berlin?
Mar 03 14:36:17 * CyrusFF will probably
Mar 03 14:36:30 <blogic> orazio: ja
Mar 03 14:36:48 <blogic> wann ist das denn ?
Mar 03 14:36:53 <CyrusFF> mai
Mar 03 14:37:00 <blogic> hmm
Mar 03 14:37:01 <blogic> ok
Mar 03 14:37:09 <blogic> ich penne bei nbd auf dem sofa
Mar 03 14:37:14 <blogic> nur damit das klar ist
Mar 03 14:37:15 <blogic> :)
Mar 03 14:37:16 <orazio> (I'm not german)
Mar 03 14:37:21 <blogic> orazio: ah ok :)
Mar 03 14:37:39 <blogic> i was claiming a sofa spot
Mar 03 14:37:40 <blogic> :)
Mar 03 14:37:48 <CyrusFF> 22.05-24.05.
Mar 03 14:38:20 <orazio> but I've just bought a plane ticket
Mar 03 14:38:29 <blogic> cool
Mar 03 14:38:35 <blogic> orazio: got a place to sleep yet?
Mar 03 14:38:55 <orazio> I will go there with other guys of rome (we are a wireless community)
Mar 03 14:39:15 <blogic> ok
Mar 03 14:39:18 <blogic> nice
Mar 03 14:39:22 <orazio> so we will rent an house I think
Mar 03 14:39:25 <blogic> cool
Mar 03 14:39:39 <CyrusFF> orazio: ninux?
Mar 03 14:39:42 <blogic> rome is nice
Mar 03 14:39:48 <orazio> CyrusFF:  yes
Mar 03 14:40:15 <CyrusFF> nice
Mar 03 14:40:21 <orazio> blogic:  yes a lot of routers :)
Mar 03 14:40:29 <blogic> haha
Mar 03 14:40:41 <blogic> i spent a lot of time when i was working for acmesystems.it in rome
Mar 03 14:40:42 <blogic> well
Mar 03 14:40:46 <blogic> in ladispolis
Mar 03 14:40:57 <blogic> nice place
Mar 03 14:41:03 <blogic> good food
Mar 03 14:41:07 <orazio> blogic:  oh people of the foxboard
Mar 03 14:41:20 <blogic> orazio: yeah, i made most the software and howtos
Mar 03 14:41:27 <blogic> i used to maintain the code base
Mar 03 14:41:37 <orazio> CyrusFF:  did you meet some ninux boys  ?
Mar 03 14:42:09 <CyrusFF> not yet, or maybe but did not notice, i'm working on freifunk stuff for kamikaze together with xMff
Mar 03 14:42:49 <CyrusFF> and I'm always forgetting to whom I already talked to :-P
Mar 03 14:43:00 <orazio> :)
Mar 03 14:43:22 <orazio> I got to go! see you in chat or in berlin!
Mar 03 14:43:34 <iurgi> ciao
Mar 03 14:44:20 <orazio> ciao :)
Mar 03 15:27:41 <xMff> does it makes sense to allow building transmission-cli without transmission-daemon?
Mar 03 15:27:59 <xMff> atm cli & web depend on daemon
Mar 03 15:30:45 <xMff> my suggestion: http://pastebin.com/m456e602b
Mar 03 15:31:14 <blogic> yes
Mar 03 15:31:19 <blogic> i think that makes sense
Mar 03 15:31:24 <blogic> so you install webui or cli
Mar 03 15:31:33 <blogic> and daemon is auto insalled
Mar 03 15:32:19 <xMff> okay, then I'll commit it now... builds fine here
Mar 03 15:36:02 <blogic> ok
Mar 03 15:36:07 <blogic> i will test it on fonera in a sec
Mar 03 15:36:14 <xMff> comitted
Mar 03 15:36:26 <xMff> might need some init script ... later ;)
Mar 03 16:32:19 <DaGo> bye
Mar 03 16:33:06 <iurgi> bye
Mar 03 17:46:41 <kazwo> how is the feeling?
Mar 03 17:51:24 <pablo_bz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgDrJ5Z2rKw of course
Mar 03 17:53:18 <pablo_bz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3HDrLubIBY <- ...
Mar 03 17:58:44 <Barbon> hi
Mar 03 17:58:50 <Barbon> my fonera crashed 4 times
Mar 03 17:58:52 <Barbon> today
Mar 03 17:58:54 <Barbon> :E
Mar 03 17:59:05 <Barbon> it stop wireless and internet put off
Mar 03 17:59:10 <Barbon> also wireless off
Mar 03 18:00:46 <Barbon> somesone happened this also?
Mar 03 18:01:19 <pablo_bz> ?
Mar 03 18:01:40 <kazwo> not at me
Mar 03 18:03:00 <Decodecoding> Me neither
Mar 03 18:03:36 <Decodecoding> Mine seems 100% stable under heavy wifi usage, as far is I tested so far
Mar 03 18:04:01 <pablo_bz> Barbon: any plugin?
Mar 03 18:26:09 <Barbon> im back
Mar 03 18:26:18 <Barbon> i have instelled audioclip and removed it
Mar 03 18:26:24 <Barbon> yesterday
Mar 03 18:27:12 <Barbon> this is the only firmware that give me this problem
Mar 03 18:27:17 <Barbon> :/
Mar 03 18:31:22 <Barbon> is happened 2 times yesterday
Mar 03 18:31:34 <Barbon> maybe bad flashing?
Mar 03 18:37:49 <pablo_bz> maybe
Mar 03 18:38:17 <pablo_bz> do you remember any special event before the crashings?
Mar 03 18:40:15 <Barbon> is happened again
Mar 03 18:40:17 <Barbon> _-
Mar 03 18:40:18 <Barbon> OMG
Mar 03 18:41:41 <pablo_bz> do you have a usb hub connected
Mar 03 18:41:44 <pablo_bz> when it happens?
Mar 03 18:42:16 <pablo_bz> any device connected to it?
Mar 03 18:42:18 <Barbon> nope
Mar 03 18:42:23 <pablo_bz> grrrrr
Mar 03 18:42:27 <Barbon> :/
Mar 03 18:42:44 <Barbon> bad flash maybe?
Mar 03 18:42:54 <Barbon> there i a way to see crash report?
Mar 03 18:43:32 <pablo_bz> connected through ssh perhaps you would see the oops
Mar 03 18:43:45 <pablo_bz> but most certainly through the serial port
Mar 03 18:44:05 <pablo_bz> (since if the failure disables networking you will not get the logs _through_ the network
Mar 03 18:44:38 <Barbon> also wireless turn off
Mar 03 18:44:44 <Barbon> and led become yelloy
Mar 03 18:45:07 <Barbon> and have to reboot
Mar 03 19:24:14 <flameman> hi all guys
Mar 03 19:24:40 <flameman> anybody with a pretty project for fonera ?
Mar 03 19:31:32 <Barbon> hey :)
Mar 03 19:31:39 <flameman> hello
Mar 03 19:35:13 <Decodecoding> I know it might be offtopic, but does anybody know a free IRC client for Blackberry wich can be used with the BIS data plan?
Mar 03 19:56:52 <pablo_bz> Barbon
Mar 03 19:57:03 <pablo_bz> you mean wlan led become yellow?
Mar 03 19:57:44 <pablo_bz> are you connected to your fonera through the public signal, through the private signal or using an ethernet cable?
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