**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 22 02:59:57 2009 Apr 22 04:10:27 I want one! Apr 22 07:02:38 ** running on flipper ** Apr 22 07:31:16 Has the Audiocli plugin disappeared from flipper? Or is it a choice to show printer and webcam and not to show audiocli, OLPC and other Fon plugins? Apr 22 07:34:41 voorstad: they have not been tested yet Apr 22 07:34:43 that's why Apr 22 07:38:12 ok. I am installing it. My HY554 usb sound device is somewhere between Hong Kong and Netherlands..... Apr 22 07:57:46 Why is it not possible to uninstall all those up and downloaders (Flickr, Picasa, Youtube etc.) ? I understand it is cimmercially interesting to postion th Fon-ng, but I don't use them and I don't want to see them... Apr 22 08:02:40 voorstad: hmmm Apr 22 08:02:49 the thing is the firmware doesn't support "deleting" Apr 22 08:03:01 you can delete them and won't see them again Apr 22 08:03:05 but you won't free space Apr 22 08:03:24 if you just don't want to see them, you can probably do it from the command line Apr 22 08:04:16 voorstad: /etc/config/plugfons Apr 22 08:04:22 voorstad: just delete them Apr 22 08:04:34 voorstad: and then you wont see them Apr 22 08:07:01 http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/21/2041241 Apr 22 08:16:15 @blogic can't they be treated as plugins then? Like yo did with webcam an printer? Apr 22 08:16:42 they are treated as such Apr 22 08:16:47 just are not uninstallable Apr 22 08:17:03 uninstalling them would make no sense Apr 22 08:17:07 that would eat more flash Apr 22 08:17:16 as they reside in the compressed region of the flash Apr 22 08:17:49 mmm, ok. Seems a bit strange to an enduser.... Apr 22 08:18:24 Good morning Apr 22 08:18:31 Audicli is installable by the way. I unfortunately can't open the filebrowser Apr 22 08:20:12 voorstad: on 2.2.5.0 ? Apr 22 08:20:29 NTFS drive issue I guess Apr 22 08:20:34 Yes, on Flipper Apr 22 08:20:51 voorstad: there is no plugin for 2.2.5.0 Apr 22 08:21:16 I downloaded the plugin and installed it Apr 22 08:21:41 there is no working 2.2.5.0 version Apr 22 08:21:54 so, yes you can install the 2.2.4.0 version but it wont work Apr 22 08:21:59 version 0.2 Apr 22 08:22:34 ok Apr 22 08:22:37 bye Apr 22 08:22:53 well, I can't browse my drive from the File browser, so I can't tell Apr 22 08:26:18 voorstad: does the drive have a lot of files? Apr 22 08:26:31 if so, it takes some time to get it ready, imo Apr 22 08:26:41 try after several secs Apr 22 08:36:47 I switched to ext2 for the USB hard disk. Apr 22 08:52:22 Yep, I know I should not use NTFS, but...... Apr 22 08:53:59 I am not the only one using the drive. Apr 22 08:54:32 And to make fon-ng a success, one should serve the windows users as well. There are just too many...! Apr 22 09:06:19 I agree Apr 22 09:22:05 olà Apr 22 09:22:48 somesone can tell me what is this new function: Install new versions from the Applications menu! From now on, a single click will separate your Fonera 2.0 from the next firmware… Apr 22 09:22:52 Barbon: do you know the work "impatient" ? :) Apr 22 09:22:59 Barbon: do you know the word "impatient" ? :) Apr 22 09:23:18 i know is me? xD Apr 22 09:24:48 Barbon: it means exactly that Apr 22 09:24:58 install a new version from the applications menu Apr 22 09:26:53 of firmware y mean? Apr 22 09:32:25 Yes Barbon. That's a feature I love Apr 22 09:36:13 so, you want bridge feature Apr 22 09:36:15 hmmm :) Apr 22 09:40:31 Man, apart from the watchdog thing, I still keep getting this chillispot messages : http://pastebin.com/m71e20334 Apr 22 09:49:17 Decodecoding: yes, same reason, the high load Apr 22 09:49:34 Decodecoding: your fonera is weird :) Apr 22 09:50:00 Nobody has the same stuff? Apr 22 09:51:19 no Apr 22 09:51:26 i have 1 single report of this crash Apr 22 09:51:32 maybe it is your enviroment Apr 22 09:51:38 oops Apr 22 09:51:41 do you have a lot of antennas near you ? Apr 22 09:52:05 The fontena this fonera uses. About 1,5 meters away Apr 22 09:52:27 nah, I wouldn't say it's that Apr 22 09:52:32 imo it's a dns problem Apr 22 09:52:40 can you give me the mac of your fonera? Apr 22 09:52:53 How can I see it in ssh session Apr 22 09:52:54 ? Apr 22 09:53:06 I'm remotely Apr 22 09:53:23 oh wait Apr 22 09:53:27 in my fon user Apr 22 09:53:53 ifconfig eth0 | cut -d" " -f11 | Apr 22 09:53:59 oops Apr 22 09:54:01 ifconfig eth0 | cut -d" " -f11 | head -n 1 Apr 22 09:54:04 that command Apr 22 09:54:17 00-18-84-d0-0d-0d Apr 22 09:54:20 good Apr 22 09:54:21 thanks Apr 22 09:54:26 let me check a few things here Apr 22 09:54:29 ok Apr 22 09:54:46 darn, I'm not connected to the correct VLAN Apr 22 09:54:53 I'll be back in 10min Apr 22 09:54:59 OK Apr 22 10:04:31 The Mac I posted befere is from the "My Fon" section in the web Apr 22 10:04:38 sure Apr 22 10:04:39 no prob Apr 22 10:04:44 * iurgi will be back Apr 22 10:05:21 With blogics commands i get : 00:18:84:D0:0D:0C different value Apr 22 10:05:35 00-18-84-d0-0d-0c Apr 22 10:05:35 @ iurgi "if so, it takes some time to get it ready, imo" I have tried several times and let the file browser open for > 1 hour. No data shown Apr 22 10:05:56 It indeed contains a lot of files and data... Apr 22 10:05:56 voorstad: hmmm Apr 22 10:05:58 weird Apr 22 10:06:09 ehrrr Apr 22 10:06:12 is it developer version? Apr 22 10:06:15 yes Apr 22 10:06:32 voorstad: is it developer version? Apr 22 10:06:33 :) Apr 22 10:06:49 yep Apr 22 10:07:17 Perhaps the fonera times out (new password) before the data is shown? Apr 22 10:07:17 voorstad: did you reboot it after flashing last time? Apr 22 10:07:48 Nope. I'll try. Platero had the same issue by the way Apr 22 10:07:58 yes Apr 22 10:08:05 it's normal Apr 22 10:08:08 it's not an 'issue' Apr 22 10:08:19 I mean, it is, but it's first boot, norhing to worry Apr 22 10:08:29 a challange perhaps? Apr 22 10:08:32 :-) Apr 22 10:08:49 I'll reboot. I'll be back in 5 min. Apr 22 10:11:21 What is the MAC needed. The one in "My FON" or the one I get with : " ifconfig eth0 | cut -d" " -f11 | head -n 1" Apr 22 10:11:27 ? Apr 22 10:12:07 both Apr 22 10:12:13 they're the same minus 1 Apr 22 10:12:14 :) Apr 22 10:12:15 They are the same until the last character (0D and 0C) Apr 22 10:12:22 ah, ok Apr 22 10:12:25 sorry Apr 22 10:19:31 hmmm Apr 22 10:19:37 your fonera is not sending HB right now Apr 22 10:19:50 oops Apr 22 10:19:52 hmmm Apr 22 10:19:53 wait Apr 22 10:19:58 maybe it is Apr 22 10:19:59 tyo Apr 22 10:20:02 typo Apr 22 10:22:38 it is sending HB Apr 22 10:22:38 ok Apr 22 10:22:43 hmmm Apr 22 10:22:52 decodecoding: cat /etc/chilli.conf Apr 22 10:23:38 http://pastebin.com/m683c6e05 Apr 22 10:25:22 hmmm Apr 22 10:25:34 ping www.fonshop.com.tw Apr 22 10:25:59 nah, forget it Apr 22 10:26:05 I thought it was the corean shop Apr 22 10:26:07 it worked Apr 22 10:26:08 old issue Apr 22 10:26:09 hmmm Apr 22 10:26:10 ok Apr 22 10:26:37 I think the best thing is to start chilli in debug mode Apr 22 10:26:45 and let it run till it crashes... Apr 22 10:26:55 ok, tell me Apr 22 10:28:04 1min Apr 22 10:28:13 (y) Apr 22 10:31:18 YES!! Apr 22 10:31:26 Decodecoding: killall chilli Apr 22 10:31:26 chilli --radiusnasid=00-18-84-D0-0D-0D --dhcpif=ath0 --papalw Apr 22 10:31:27 aysok --pidfile=/var/run/chilli.pid -fd --debugfacility=255 --logfacility=255 Apr 22 10:31:35 last 2 lines are 1 line Apr 22 10:32:16 rebooting flipper did the trick: I can see data from my 1Tb NTFS drive! Apr 22 10:32:41 I sometimes have to refresh, but I am used to press F5 since yesterday. Apr 22 10:32:46 Great guys! Apr 22 10:33:23 Iurgi, you mean I should paste the two last lines one after another ? Apr 22 10:33:32 no Apr 22 10:33:40 you should joing them in 1 line Apr 22 10:33:49 ok Apr 22 10:33:50 chilli --radiusnasid=00-18-84-D0-0D-0D --dhcpif=ath0 --papalwaysok --pidfile=/var/run/chilli.pid -fd --debugfacility=255 --logfacility=255 Apr 22 10:34:13 do you remember the error logs you used to get of chilli restarting? Apr 22 10:34:26 was it: HotspotStop and HotspotStart? Apr 22 10:34:34 or was itRestartChilli? Apr 22 10:34:43 These : http://pastebin.com/m71e20334 Apr 22 10:35:07 Ok. Debuggin mode is on. Apr 22 10:37:30 Audiocli seems to work as well by the way. I only lack a USB sound card, so I'll let you knwo once it has arrived. Apr 22 10:39:22 that is a relaly weird log deco Apr 22 10:39:40 voorstad: imo it won't work well Apr 22 10:39:48 but we're updating the application Apr 22 10:40:09 yes, looks crazy Apr 22 10:40:45 But I am glad NTFS works..... Apr 22 10:42:25 Here's a piece os the output of the debugging mode : http://pastebin.com/m41df60bb Apr 22 10:42:52 wtf Apr 22 10:44:16 Decodecoding: what subnet is you fonera on ? Apr 22 10:44:20 i mean Apr 22 10:44:21 yeah Apr 22 10:44:25 do you change its ip ? Apr 22 10:44:27 what's your IP settings Apr 22 10:44:34 is it still 192.168.10.1 ? Apr 22 10:45:00 I'll paste the beggining of the debug mode output: http://pastebin.com/m58f6127b Apr 22 10:45:18 Ys, I didn't change 192.168.10.1 in the LAN Apr 22 10:45:19 hmmm Apr 22 10:45:25 is it in WiFi-WAN mode? Apr 22 10:45:29 No Apr 22 10:45:32 Static IP Apr 22 10:45:45 Decodecoding: the command is wrong Apr 22 10:45:59 :$ Apr 22 10:46:02 # Apr 22 10:46:04 dhcp.c: 428: 0 (Success) Not Ethernet: ath0--papalwayso Apr 22 10:46:17 no space between ath0 and --papalways ok Apr 22 10:46:57 the error messages you were showing happen when hcilli tries to offer IP addresses in a non-existing interface Apr 22 10:47:05 I had seen it before but I couldn't remember where Apr 22 10:47:17 great error message Apr 22 10:47:25 yeah Apr 22 10:47:26 lol Apr 22 10:47:35 much better tahn "trying to alloc lease on bogus netdev Apr 22 10:47:36 coova is a great program all itself Apr 22 10:47:36 XD Apr 22 10:47:40 amazing Apr 22 10:47:44 yeah Apr 22 10:47:49 ok Apr 22 10:47:53 I started it again Apr 22 10:47:57 ok Apr 22 10:48:10 Now it seems less crazy Apr 22 10:49:24 ok Apr 22 11:13:52 Iurgi, some output: http://pastebin.com/m1ffd04bd Apr 22 11:14:02 it keeps running like that Apr 22 11:14:15 that's correct Apr 22 11:14:18 leave it like that... Apr 22 11:14:24 ok Apr 22 11:14:27 until i tcrashes... if it ever dows Apr 22 11:14:42 all right Apr 22 11:27:19 after some minutes it crashes: here are the last lines: http://pastebin.com/m31e3c744 Apr 22 11:30:29 hmmm Apr 22 11:30:29 . Apr 22 11:30:36 that's an external process killing it Apr 22 11:30:42 # Apr 22 11:30:43 chilli.c: 58: 0 (Success) SIGTERM received! Apr 22 11:31:06 # Apr 22 11:31:06 Apr 22 11:31:06 # Apr 22 11:31:06 redir.c: 1643: 0 (Success) Error calling get_req. Terminating Apr 22 11:38:23 blogic: do you know what that means? Apr 22 11:39:28 I wouldn't discard that as another 'stupid' cchilli message Apr 22 11:40:11 according to Decodecoding's previous logs (previous days) chilli was starting and stoping once an again, but in a 'normal' way, meaning ascript was doing it Apr 22 11:40:23 HotspotON and HotspotOff Apr 22 11:40:40 I was thinking that this process sent the sigterm to chilli Apr 22 11:40:45 and it stopped because of that Apr 22 11:41:33 actually, after the redir.c error, it seems to continue Apr 22 11:44:21 yes Apr 22 11:44:27 we have the watchdog running Apr 22 11:44:47 if the watchdog of chilli has problems reading the redirect stuff, well then it restarts Apr 22 11:46:03 hmmm Apr 22 11:46:06 ok Apr 22 11:46:15 so your guess is: watchdog didn't get reidrected Apr 22 11:46:19 then it killed chilli Apr 22 11:46:21 makes sense Apr 22 11:46:32 so now: why didn't it get redirected? Apr 22 11:46:33 darn Apr 22 11:46:47 Decodecoding: did you ever try to connect to the public signal? Apr 22 11:47:17 seems like the crash happened quite early Apr 22 11:47:18 umm, yes, but can't remember Apr 22 11:47:27 maybe the watchdog failed on the first attempt Apr 22 11:47:35 that's something I'll have to test Apr 22 11:48:16 blogic: how often does the watchdog try? 5min? Apr 22 12:00:43 Hi all. Apr 22 12:02:05 I'm following iurgi's advice with asking someone in the team to develop a feature which iurgi said isn't a difficult one. Apr 22 12:02:38 lol Apr 22 12:02:40 you're fast Apr 22 12:02:43 XD Apr 22 12:02:51 I posted it here: http://blog.fonosfera.org/flipper-is-your-friend/ Apr 22 12:03:01 I said it's not the most difficult one ;) Apr 22 12:03:47 okok Apr 22 12:04:31 nah, shouldn't be a big deal Apr 22 12:04:34 imo Apr 22 12:04:41 the problem is doing it properly Apr 22 12:04:44 not in a dirty way Apr 22 12:04:45 what feature ? Apr 22 12:04:47 Here the feature's description: Please, if you can, add a feature to release one directory on the USB-stick to host simple HTML-content to the web. This should be able without either enabling web-GUI access or unveiling the system’s directory structure (e.g.: http://usersIPaddressorDynDNSlink/foneraweb/). the possibility to enable dedicated password protectio Apr 22 12:05:02 the possibility to enable dedicated password protection if needed (differ from the router’s password) would ne nice as well. Apr 22 12:05:20 give HTTP access to the content of a certain dir in the HDD connected to the la fonera Apr 22 12:06:25 yes - but the important thing is not to need web GUI access and to mask the link toward the web. Apr 22 12:06:43 why is that important ? Apr 22 12:06:44 sure Apr 22 12:06:59 the pwd protection would be nice to have but not necessary if too difficult. Apr 22 12:07:35 ipmportant so you can show your 'loacal' web page to people form the outside without asking them for the GUI password Apr 22 12:07:44 importat for not to publish the routers directory structure to the foreigners. Apr 22 12:08:28 btw, anyone to report any bugs on Flipper? Apr 22 12:08:34 yes - to give the GUI password to the website viewers is quite risky Apr 22 12:08:50 :-d Apr 22 12:08:52 it's been the release that took longer to find a bug!! (a new bug) Apr 22 12:09:00 Decodecoding: yours don't count Apr 22 12:09:02 lol Apr 22 12:09:51 Iurgi, a ñ is missing in the Torrent "Añadir" he he, I had to find one :-p Apr 22 12:11:25 mierda Apr 22 12:11:30 la enye? Apr 22 12:11:32 jajaj Apr 22 12:20:12 anyone interested to develop the suggested feature? Apr 22 12:21:15 I can only support the pixel graphics needed to make it the most beatuiful one ;-) Apr 22 12:23:22 damned - Wifi keeps disconnecting... :-( Apr 22 12:28:23 Kyros: imho the only really safe solution is to run a second http server process Apr 22 12:28:48 xMff: lucittpd vhosts should be able to do this imho Apr 22 12:29:27 yes, or a vhost Apr 22 12:30:14 but that's based on directories (or virtual urls) so it would be still possible to poke around in the directory hierarchy Apr 22 12:32:17 but I agree, in theory a vhost + file server plugin should be enough, iirc the file plugin also handles index.html and stuff so one could host a simple website Apr 22 12:32:37 Seems like when torrent app is not active, chillispot does not restart... Apr 22 12:35:05 as far as I talked to my dev friend before the difficultiy is to isolate it from the rest of the router (directories, links, passwords, access rules) toward the web. Apr 22 12:35:23 but I'm not skilled to verify this. Apr 22 12:47:39 yes, as long as the stuff is hosted on the same web server you can't really separate it Apr 22 12:47:54 only password protect Apr 22 12:54:09 The moment a activate torrent download, chillispot terminates Apr 22 13:00:25 ? Apr 22 13:00:30 Decodecoding: woot ? Apr 22 13:00:34 yes Apr 22 13:00:38 ermm Apr 22 13:00:48 I have chillispot in debug mode Apr 22 13:01:02 I torrent is not downloading, It doesnt stop Apr 22 13:01:24 As soon as I start it, in a minute or so, chillispot terminates Apr 22 13:03:09 ok Apr 22 13:03:15 it is related to the load then Apr 22 13:03:39 seems like that.. Apr 22 13:03:44 seems so Apr 22 13:04:29 I guess the hardest part is finding how to decrease that load... :-( Apr 22 13:25:02 xMff: Yes - it seems to be quite more difficult to realize as iurgi thought before... Apr 22 13:39:27 Hi , I'm trying to upgrade from Tantor to Flipper (v2.2.1.0 ->v2.2.5.0), but with the firmware update web page (Dashboard >> Settings >> System) , I've the "Invalid image" error ...any idea ? Apr 22 13:45:42 Better upgrade manually to flipper or to Platero and then try update web page Apr 22 13:46:05 tx , I'll try Apr 22 13:47:21 Hi ! Apr 22 13:48:06 For the Webcam , Does it need a powered usb HUB or not ? Apr 22 13:48:22 just a hub Apr 22 13:48:28 needs not be powered Apr 22 13:48:32 I used it without powered usb hub Apr 22 13:49:15 ok . But if I want to use a webcam that isn't listed on the compatibily list , Have to upload somewhere the driver ? Apr 22 13:51:22 no Apr 22 13:51:30 either it works otr not Apr 22 13:51:55 So I can do nothing , isn't it ? Apr 22 13:53:17 what cam do you have ? Apr 22 13:53:18 because this webcam was nice http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180343149544QQssPageNameZMERC_VI_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=180343160549&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m184&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D4 Apr 22 13:53:54 I have a webcam very close this http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180343159250QQssPageNameZMERC_VI_RCRX_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=180343149544&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=CrossSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m184&_trkparms=algo%3DCRX%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D4 Apr 22 13:54:02 i doubt it will work Apr 22 13:55:05 best is to stick to those models wich are confirmed as working models in the fon wiki Apr 22 13:55:51 yes infact I have bought today the Logitech e3500 that works at 100% Apr 22 13:56:14 but a webcam 10 megapixel for only 5 euro is a very good price Apr 22 13:56:41 Sure. Apr 22 13:57:20 e3500 is a goog one. It has integrated mic Apr 22 13:57:37 good Apr 22 13:58:01 The new firmware is very good . Only the grapich shoud be better Apr 22 13:58:06 last one thing . Apr 22 13:58:35 To wacth the streaming of my webcam from outside my house , what can I do ? Apr 22 13:59:50 ADSL router? Apr 22 13:59:54 DSL router? Apr 22 14:00:35 allow webgui access from WAN in Firewall Apr 22 14:01:05 And what site Should I put on My bronser ? Apr 22 14:01:23 you need to create a DynDNS free account Apr 22 14:01:36 yourname.dyndns.org Apr 22 14:01:51 Use the DynDNS plugin or your DSL router one Apr 22 14:01:57 not IP , isn't ? Apr 22 14:02:05 Decodecoding: the upgrade manually is working , tx a lot Apr 22 14:02:31 amnesic: It was just a guess. No credit for me at all Apr 22 14:04:05 I've created the account , but on web console , in DNS , what Should I enter ? Apr 22 14:04:32 what domain have you choosen Apr 22 14:04:51 you have to enter user/password/domain Apr 22 14:05:11 May be testhouse.serveftp.net ? Apr 22 14:05:28 If I find the time, I'll write something about this in the wiki Apr 22 14:05:31 yes Apr 22 14:05:41 user must be then testhouse Apr 22 14:05:58 then your password and finally the whole domain chosen by you Apr 22 14:06:48 I've done it , everything works ! thank you Apr 22 14:06:59 wow. Apr 22 14:07:05 Congratulations Apr 22 14:07:08 About emule on LF2 can someone exple how does it work ? Apr 22 14:07:21 No idea about that. Sorry Apr 22 14:07:42 ok Apr 22 14:07:54 I hope in the feture someone 'll do it ! Apr 22 14:07:58 Thank you ! Apr 22 14:08:00 Bye ! Apr 22 14:09:52 Hmmm... Maybe I have to reactivte my fritzbox 7140 router again - with freetz firmware they offer aplugin for apache webserver and PHP support on the router. and you can expand the root directory to the usb storage device using another plugins so you have no memory problems for libs. Apr 22 14:27:38 http://www.freetz.org/wiki/packages/apache Apr 22 14:28:14 all their plugins: http://www.freetz.org/wiki/packages Apr 22 14:28:47 since fon firmware is just openwrt in the end you can also just install apache or lighttpd Apr 22 14:29:05 and make it listen on another port Apr 22 14:29:27 their english startpage: http://www.freetz.org/wiki/WikiStart.en Apr 22 14:30:35 but if you are really interested in security, it would be stupid to install php :D Apr 22 14:30:40 you are able to do it but I cannot ;-) since I'm just a user. Apr 22 14:31:03 so only choose apache webserver without php Apr 22 14:31:15 yeah, or lighttpd Apr 22 14:31:18 would be enough I guess. Apr 22 14:32:19 I don't know if they solved the problems with not exposing directory structure and system password. Apr 22 14:33:19 But in their few board's threads I read I didn't find feedback about such problems. Apr 22 14:34:34 well I think they run a second httpd Apr 22 14:44:12 hi all, is remote access to the fonera interface possible, or in the pipeline? Apr 22 14:47:35 jmares: you mean via wan ? Apr 22 14:47:41 yes, that is possible Apr 22 14:52:49 yes Apr 22 14:52:57 thanks Apr 22 15:08:41 I have to quit. Apr 22 15:08:51 cu 2morrow Apr 22 16:46:41 is there anyone that has no flipper? Apr 22 17:08:54 fonera 2.0 tracking number received :) Apr 22 17:12:38 same here, sooo quick, i thought i'll have to wait 3 weeks before i get the ups tracking number Apr 22 17:13:07 good Apr 22 17:13:15 XD Apr 22 18:44:24 home sweet home Apr 22 19:48:55 Hi all Apr 22 20:47:17 hello there Apr 22 20:47:35 quick question, is la fonera 2.0 going to support bluetooth ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 23 02:59:57 2009