**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 27 02:59:57 2009
Apr 27 06:31:09 <Danicasti> Hi! Buongiorno!
Apr 27 07:31:31 <iurgi> hi
Apr 27 07:31:40 <iurgi> I got disconnected somehow!!
Apr 27 07:31:54 <iurgi> hi
Apr 27 08:07:03 <iurgi_> hi
Apr 27 08:12:14 <kazwo> hi
Apr 27 08:15:10 <Decodecoding> morning
Apr 27 08:15:48 <CyrusFF> hi
Apr 27 08:16:22 <iurgi_> hi CyrusFF
Apr 27 08:44:54 <Decodecoding> I re-flashed this weekend from redboot to have a clean image installed. I didn't flash failsafe image so now I hace 3 Mb of free memory. Is something wrong about this? Can I have no failsafe image and fonera work properly?
Apr 27 09:11:13 <kazwo> Decodecoding: the flipper firmware killed the failsafe image. the failsafe part is not longer needed since the easy flashing tool was available
Apr 27 09:12:34 <stowru> and that feature only useable to someone whos cant access redboot
Apr 27 09:23:32 <Decodecoding> ok. So is better since it leaves more free memory
Apr 27 09:27:39 <stowru> Decodecoding: thanks about the password <-> firewall thing
Apr 27 09:28:46 <Decodecoding> ;-)
Apr 27 09:31:05 <Decodecoding> I must say I had already played before with redboot, unbricking fonera 1.0 but following fon wiki, redboot process is very easy.
Apr 27 09:45:09 <TeamLazybone> hi
Apr 27 09:55:03 <Decodecoding> hi
Apr 27 09:56:11 <Decodecoding> Is anybody in the room (apart from de dev team and me) who is testing the self reboots related with torrent app running?
Apr 27 10:19:50 <Andy80> hi all
Apr 27 10:19:55 <Andy80> just got my fonera 2 :D
Apr 27 10:21:29 <stowru> gz :)
Apr 27 10:21:41 <iurgi> Andy80: cool :)
Apr 27 10:21:50 <iurgi> did you already upgrade it?
Apr 27 10:22:23 <Andy80> is it a known issue I cannot see MyPrivate SSD from eeepc with Ubuntu?
Apr 27 10:22:41 <iurgi> no
Apr 27 10:22:44 <Andy80> I'm upgrading from 2.2.4.0 to 2.2.5.0 right now
Apr 27 10:22:49 <iurgi> Andy80: cool
Apr 27 10:23:00 <iurgi> you should see MyPlace
Apr 27 10:23:03 <Andy80> I'll check again after upgrading....
Apr 27 10:23:15 <Andy80> yes... MyPlace... not MyPrivate sorry...
Apr 27 10:23:23 <iurgi> a few people with eeepc confirmed it
Apr 27 10:23:26 <iurgi> :?
Apr 27 10:23:59 <Andy80> and..another thing: from my Netgear router I can see that assigned ip is 192.168.0.105, but if I connect to http://192.168.0.105 from my desktop PC, I cannot connect....
Apr 27 10:24:25 <Andy80> I had to direct connect with cable from my eeepc to fonera 2 to be able to access the settings...
Apr 27 10:27:00 <Andy80> I know that fonera 2 has another ip: 192.168.10.1 but it's quite useless for me, since my network is on 192.168.0.x
Apr 27 10:28:06 <CyrusFF> Andy80: maybe a firewall thing I guess 192.168.0.105 is the wan ip of the f2
Apr 27 10:28:15 <CyrusFF> in this case
Apr 27 10:28:34 <kazwo> i have no problemes with the eeepc 1000h and ubuntu intrepid (array kernel) and jaunty (ubuntu kernel).
Apr 27 10:29:53 <Andy80> CyrusFF, kazwo: I'll try again after finishing the upgrade. Only 2 minutes remaining :)
Apr 27 10:32:39 <Andy80> sorry... 12 minutes, wrong typing
Apr 27 10:36:40 <iurgi> Andy80: yes, that is the WAN port
Apr 27 10:37:03 <iurgi> you need to ocnnect to the fonera and modify the firewall settings so you can connet to it from that interface
Apr 27 10:38:19 <Andy80> iurgi: ok, after the upgrade is completed, I'll change the main IP from 192.168.10.1 to 192.168.0.105 or .106
Apr 27 10:38:26 <iurgi> no no no
Apr 27 10:38:27 <iurgi> no way
Apr 27 10:38:32 <iurgi> that will mess up things
Apr 27 10:38:38 <iurgi> Andy80: the fonera has 2 networks
Apr 27 10:38:40 <iurgi> LAN and WAN
Apr 27 10:38:47 <iurgi> and they HAVE TO be different
Apr 27 10:39:00 <iurgi> don't change the IP in the fonera
Apr 27 10:39:12 <Andy80> iurgi: ok!
Apr 27 10:39:12 <iurgi> just enable WAN access on the firewall to the services you want
Apr 27 10:39:21 <iurgi> samba, ftp, web etc
Apr 27 10:39:25 <iurgi> :)
Apr 27 10:39:25 <Andy80> iurgi: ahhhhh, the firewall! okok :)
Apr 27 10:39:30 <iurgi> yep
Apr 27 10:39:34 <CyrusFF> Andy80: and set a password >= 8 chars
Apr 27 10:39:43 <CyrusFF> with at least 1 number and 1 letter
Apr 27 10:39:45 <Andy80> CyrusFF: of course :)
Apr 27 10:39:46 <iurgi> yes
Apr 27 10:40:14 <pm2036> hi all
Apr 27 10:40:36 <Andy80> uhm... big question... if a fonero connects to the public signal... is he able to see the services? samba, ftp, ssh.. ecc...??!
Apr 27 10:41:06 <iurgi> no
Apr 27 10:41:11 <Andy80> good
Apr 27 10:41:12 <iurgi> hi pm2036
Apr 27 10:41:19 <pm2036> hi iurgi ;)
Apr 27 10:41:21 <Andy80> hi pm2036
Apr 27 10:41:26 <pm2036> hi Andy80
Apr 27 10:41:30 <iurgi> hi all
Apr 27 10:41:31 <iurgi> lol
Apr 27 10:41:36 <pm2036> yes all !
Apr 27 10:41:39 <iurgi> all: hi all
Apr 27 10:42:10 <pm2036> iurgi: have you read my bug ticket?
Apr 27 10:43:02 <Andy80> fonera has just finished flashing the new firmware.... I don't know if it has done the reboot yet, but now I'm able to see the private signal too
Apr 27 10:43:11 <iurgi> pm2036: no
Apr 27 10:43:13 <iurgi> which one?
Apr 27 10:43:20 <pm2036> #245
Apr 27 10:43:28 <iurgi> Andy80: it should have rebooted
Apr 27 10:43:34 <iurgi> but it takes about 2-3min to reboot
Apr 27 10:45:53 <Andy80> iurgi: yes... I'm configuring the wizard now (master password, youtube account ecc....)
Apr 27 10:47:43 <iurgi> ok
Apr 27 10:47:52 <iurgi> MyPlace should be present by now
Apr 27 10:48:49 <iurgi> pm2036: just read it
Apr 27 10:48:52 <iurgi> I will check it
Apr 27 10:48:57 <iurgi> but that should be working
Apr 27 10:49:02 <iurgi> it's root+password imo
Apr 27 10:49:03 <pm2036> iurig: ok thanks :)
Apr 27 10:49:19 <iurgi> are you sure you didn't mistype the password or maybe use a wrong one?
Apr 27 10:49:24 <iurgi> can you double check please?
Apr 27 10:49:44 <pm2036> the pass is the same pass as the webgui?
Apr 27 10:49:54 <Decodecoding> yes
Apr 27 10:50:01 <iurgi> yes
Apr 27 10:50:04 <pm2036> I have write it into a notepad and paste it
Apr 27 10:50:45 <pm2036> I'm at work (and my internet access at home is down) so I can't test now but tonight I will re-check it
Apr 27 10:51:05 <iurgi> thanks
Apr 27 10:51:17 <iurgi> can anyone test it now on theirs?
Apr 27 10:51:20 <iurgi> to make sure it works
Apr 27 10:51:30 <iurgi> I can't unfortunately :P
Apr 27 10:52:12 <kazwo> what should be tested?
Apr 27 10:52:54 <Decodecoding> What has to be checked?
Apr 27 10:53:03 <iurgi> whether web access from WAN works
Apr 27 10:53:04 <Decodecoding> I have ssh remote access
Apr 27 10:53:35 <Decodecoding> Mine does
Apr 27 10:53:53 <Decodecoding> I'm controlling the torrent stuff from here
Apr 27 10:54:31 <kazwo> i can confirm that it works
Apr 27 10:54:37 <pm2036> hum ok, i will recheck
Apr 27 10:54:42 <iurgi> ok
Apr 27 10:54:42 <iurgi> thanks
Apr 27 10:54:49 <Andy80> iurgi: I've set the master password, configured fonera2 and opened webgui from wan... now, from my desktop pc (192.168.0.108) I can access webgui at 192.168.0.105, so cool :)
Apr 27 10:55:31 <iurgi> cool
Apr 27 10:55:32 <iurgi> :D
Apr 27 10:55:43 <iurgi> Andy80: where are you from?
Apr 27 10:56:14 <Andy80> iurgi: Italy (Tuscany in particular)
Apr 27 10:56:39 <Andy80> you?
Apr 27 10:58:42 <iurgi> bilbao
Apr 27 10:58:59 <iurgi> but I live in madrid
Apr 27 11:01:22 <Andy80> iurgi: bueno :) nunca he sido por aya' anque me gustaria mucho! pero he visitado Barcelona hace dos semanas ;) (lo siento por mi malo espanol :P )
Apr 27 11:03:51 <iurgi> joder!!!
Apr 27 11:03:55 <iurgi> hablas MUY bien!!
Apr 27 11:04:13 <iurgi> io non parlo italiano tanto bene!!
Apr 27 11:04:57 <Andy80> iurgi: well... let's get back to english, else other people could not understand :) I hope to learn spanish as soon as possible, because in october I'll start my erasmus in Valencia
Apr 27 11:05:07 <iurgi> oh really?
Apr 27 11:05:09 <iurgi> good
Apr 27 11:05:12 <iurgi> why valencia?
Apr 27 11:05:50 <iurgi> (never been there, but I will go in 15 days to see the final cup!!!)
Apr 27 11:06:30 <Andy80> iurgi: I study Computer Science.... and I reallt wanted to do erasmus.... in Spain ;) and so... I had to choose among some cities.... never been in valencia, but all my friends that have visited it told me it's great
Apr 27 11:11:55 <iurgi> yeha, they say it's great
Apr 27 11:12:18 <iurgi> but I always heard that italians tend to go to barcelona
Apr 27 11:12:18 <iurgi> :)
Apr 27 11:12:45 <Andy80> is a particular configuration required to enable USB disk support? I just plugged a 1Gb USB key but it's not recognized...
Apr 27 11:13:00 <Decodecoding> What brand?
Apr 27 11:13:01 <Andy80> iurgi: infact I visited Barcelona 2 weeks ago :D
Apr 27 11:13:31 <Andy80> Decodecoding: "MyFlash".... I plug in my PC and tell you more information, wait...
Apr 27 11:14:03 <Decodecoding> Iurgi: I think there should be a "blacklist" or "suspicious list"  in the wiki listing non recognized USB sticks
Apr 27 11:14:19 <Andy80> Decodecoding: Bus 001 Device 005: ID 090c:1000 Feiya Technology Corp. Memory Bar
Apr 27 11:14:21 <iurgi> Decodecoding: yes...
Apr 27 11:14:34 <Decodecoding> I already added my TDK 8 Gb
Apr 27 11:15:00 <iurgi> Decodecoding: good
Apr 27 11:15:01 <iurgi> where?
Apr 27 11:15:54 <Decodecoding> In supported storage devices
Apr 27 11:16:01 <Andy80> iurgi: here http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/External_Storage_Use
Apr 27 11:16:20 <Andy80> if you want I can add mine and create a separate section "NOT Working USB drives"
Apr 27 11:17:10 <Decodecoding> Yes. Maybe the section should be name "Not working based on tests"
Apr 27 11:18:07 <Andy80> done :)
Apr 27 11:18:26 <iurgi> Andy80: it doesn't work?
Apr 27 11:19:24 <Andy80> iurgi: it's not recognized
Apr 27 11:19:29 <Decodecoding> Andy, maybe we should add to title "based upon wiki contributor's tests"
Apr 27 11:19:30 <iurgi> Andy80:
Apr 27 11:19:41 <Andy80> how can I access to fonera2 trough ssh? So I can check messages/errors
Apr 27 11:19:46 <iurgi> Andy80: you don't have ssh access to the foenra, right?
Apr 27 11:20:01 <Andy80> was asking for ssh right now :D
Apr 27 11:20:26 <iurgi> what firmware did you flash with?
Apr 27 11:21:43 <Andy80> iurgi: uhm... ehm....ENDUSER :P
Apr 27 11:21:49 <Andy80> doh! :)
Apr 27 11:22:00 <Andy80> Do I need developer one... right?
Apr 27 11:22:37 <Decodecoding> yes
Apr 27 11:22:46 <Andy80> ok, I'll flash it again...
Apr 27 11:23:05 <Andy80> do I have to reconfigure fonera2 after flashing? if so... can I backup all settings?
Apr 27 11:23:49 <iurgi> you can't :o
Apr 27 11:23:50 <iurgi> sorry
Apr 27 11:23:55 <iurgi> how are you gonna reflash?
Apr 27 11:24:58 <Andy80> iurgi: I think I can install 2.2.5.0 developer image from webgui.... right?
Apr 27 11:28:01 <iurgi> hmmm
Apr 27 11:28:02 <iurgi> nope
Apr 27 11:28:04 <iurgi> :o
Apr 27 11:28:48 <Andy80> :(
Apr 27 11:29:08 <iurgi> thre will be a button in the userzone
Apr 27 11:29:21 <iurgi> so you can just go there and click: "enable developer mode"
Apr 27 11:29:28 <iurgi> but it's not ready yet :(
Apr 27 11:29:29 <iurgi> sorry
Apr 27 11:29:32 <Andy80> and so? How can I flash it with developer image? (argh... but... why you developer always make things so difficoult :P ?!?! )
Apr 27 11:29:39 <iurgi> Andy80: you can reflash using RedBoot
Apr 27 11:29:53 <iurgi> well, we made it very easy, just a click onthe userzone
Apr 27 11:30:02 <Andy80> oh my god.... redboot... I used it to... ehm..... flash old fonera :P
Apr 27 11:30:13 <iurgi> unfortunately the web team had some troubles with other stufff and they couldn't finish it on time
Apr 27 11:30:30 <iurgi> the thing is we want to keep trac of how many people switched to developer mode
Apr 27 11:30:43 <iurgi> that's why we want to do it in fon and not the web ui
Apr 27 11:30:53 <iurgi> but maybe it makes no sense in teh future
Apr 27 11:30:54 <iurgi> we will see
Apr 27 11:32:03 <Andy80> so, redboot is the only option for me at the moment....
Apr 27 11:32:17 <iurgi> yes :( sorry
Apr 27 11:32:18 <Andy80> can I, at least, use the "Flash Tool" described here: http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Firmware_Update_Instructions ?
Apr 27 11:32:23 <Decodecoding> Redboot is easy
Apr 27 11:32:29 <iurgi> Andy80: not yet
Apr 27 11:32:34 <iurgi> we're preparing a proper flash tool
Apr 27 11:32:39 <iurgi> but didn't have the time either!
Apr 27 11:32:39 <iurgi> lol
Apr 27 11:32:50 <iurgi> I wish more people from here could help us :P
Apr 27 11:33:44 <Andy80> (something in my head says "just go out and buy a new USB pendrive! it will get you less time!" :D )
Apr 27 11:33:57 <Andy80> ;)
Apr 27 11:34:44 <Andy80> I've another solution... if it works... I've a 2 Gb SD card and a USB multi-card reader... let's see if it works :)
Apr 27 11:36:35 <Decodecoding> I think blogic knew the reason why some usb sticks were not recognized
Apr 27 11:37:43 <Andy80> if you discover it, please tell me, I'm curious :)
Apr 27 11:38:30 <Decodecoding> If he shows up here you can ask.
Apr 27 11:38:44 <iurgi> Andy80: try the reader.. should work fine
Apr 27 11:39:09 <Andy80> iurgi: just plugged... let's see :)
Apr 27 11:39:21 <iurgi> tic-tac, tic-tac
Apr 27 11:39:35 <Andy80> :(
Apr 27 11:39:39 <Andy80> neither it works :(
Apr 27 11:39:55 <iurgi> hmmmm
Apr 27 11:39:58 <iurgi> hmmmm
Apr 27 11:40:03 <iurgi> hmmm
Apr 27 11:40:08 <Andy80> I'm starting to thing there's something broke.... in my fonera2 or maybe in the latest enduser firmware...
Apr 27 11:40:11 <iurgi> sounds pretty much like usb 1.1 devices
Apr 27 11:40:19 <iurgi> not in the firmware, for sure
Apr 27 11:40:27 <iurgi> and very very unlikely in the fonera
Apr 27 11:40:32 <iurgi> I think it's a USB1.1 problem
Apr 27 11:40:37 <iurgi> do you have a USB HUB?
Apr 27 11:40:43 <iurgi> a USB 2.0 HUB?
Apr 27 11:40:44 <Andy80> iurgi: I'm just refreshing this page: http://192.168.0.105/luci/fon_devices/fon_hd
Apr 27 11:40:52 <Andy80> I think it's 1.1 HUB
Apr 27 11:40:56 <iurgi> Andy80: no need to refresh
Apr 27 11:41:07 <iurgi> the fonera will refresh it when you connect something
Apr 27 11:41:24 <Andy80> uhm.... then it's not recognized...
Apr 27 11:41:28 <iurgi> actually, in the dashboard, the icons should change depending on whether you have certain devices (like HDD) or not
Apr 27 11:41:35 <iurgi> Andy80: how about the USB version?
Apr 27 11:41:44 <iurgi> the card reader may easily be 1.1
Apr 27 11:41:58 <iurgi> and maybe the stick as well, since it's only 1GB...
Apr 27 11:41:58 <iurgi> how old are both?
Apr 27 11:42:07 <Andy80> I first tried my USB 2.5 external HD, but I already knew it had not worked, because it needs TWO USB ports, to be powered correctly..
Apr 27 11:42:33 <Andy80> it's possible they're..... 3-4 yr old
Apr 27 11:43:43 <iurgi> yeah, sounds quite likely
Apr 27 11:43:49 <iurgi> do you have a USB 2.0 HUB?
Apr 27 11:45:37 <Andy80> no I haven't :\
Apr 27 11:45:41 <iurgi> :(
Apr 27 11:46:02 <stowru> Andy80: try to restart the fl2 with pendrive plugged in
Apr 27 11:46:44 <Andy80> stowru: ok
Apr 27 11:47:35 <Andy80> rebooting... then I go to eat something
Apr 27 11:47:57 <Andy80> and later I'll try to flash the developer image using the normal redboot procedure, so I can help you debugging it
Apr 27 11:49:24 <iurgi> hehe
Apr 27 11:49:24 <iurgi> good
Apr 27 11:49:26 <iurgi> thanks
Apr 27 11:49:35 <iurgi> well, if the devices are USB 1.1
Apr 27 11:49:42 <iurgi> we don't need debugging... it will never work
Apr 27 11:49:43 <iurgi> :o
Apr 27 11:49:48 <iurgi> you need a USB HUB for them
Apr 27 11:49:50 <iurgi> sorry
Apr 27 11:50:08 <Andy80> brb, going to eat :)
Apr 27 11:51:12 <iurgi> ok
Apr 27 11:58:51 <Andy80> I know I eat too quickly and bla bla bla.... :)
Apr 27 11:58:56 <Andy80> anyway I'm back :D
Apr 27 12:00:09 <Andy80> first good news: rebooting f2 with USB Card Reader (and 2 Gb SD plugged), the SD is recognized :)
Apr 27 12:01:03 <iurgi> lol
Apr 27 12:01:11 <iurgi> hmmm
Apr 27 12:01:21 <iurgi> that might mean the usb stick is 1.1
Apr 27 12:01:23 <iurgi> but the reader is not
Apr 27 12:01:40 <iurgi> the 1.1 devices often crash the USB port until you reboot the device
Apr 27 12:01:57 <Andy80> I can try the 1Gb USB Stick too if you want...
Apr 27 12:02:06 <iurgi> ah
Apr 27 12:02:07 <iurgi> wait
Apr 27 12:02:11 <iurgi> I know what happened
Apr 27 12:02:12 <iurgi> lol
Apr 27 12:02:17 <iurgi> yeah, give it a try
Apr 27 12:02:17 <Andy80> (what is the user/password of ftp?)
Apr 27 12:02:23 <iurgi> same as the fonera
Apr 27 12:02:29 <iurgi> same password for everything
Apr 27 12:02:33 <Andy80> root/****** ?
Apr 27 12:02:33 <iurgi> the user is "fonero"
Apr 27 12:02:38 <Andy80> ah ok
Apr 27 12:02:41 <iurgi> fonero/****
Apr 27 12:02:55 <iurgi> the thing is right after reflash, the USB discs are sometimes not recognized
Apr 27 12:03:03 <iurgi> due to the order things happen on first boot
Apr 27 12:03:15 <iurgi> so either that or the fact the the stick is USB 1.1 is the cause
Apr 27 12:03:22 <iurgi> try again with the stick
Apr 27 12:03:24 <iurgi> if it works is option 1
Apr 27 12:03:29 <iurgi> if it doesn't is option 2
Apr 27 12:03:29 <iurgi> :)
Apr 27 12:03:36 <Andy80> wait wait.... one thing at time :D
Apr 27 12:03:41 <iurgi> lol
Apr 27 12:03:42 <iurgi> ok
Apr 27 12:04:04 <Andy80> 1) I was able to connect to FTP with fonero/****** but I'm not able to write inside that folder from nautilus...
Apr 27 12:06:32 <iurgi> what is the folder name?
Apr 27 12:07:34 <Andy80> iurgi: the default in nautilus is "Untitled" or something similar... than it let you rename it
Apr 27 12:07:40 <Andy80> I cannot create files too
Apr 27 12:07:43 <Andy80> nor copy
Apr 27 12:08:17 <Andy80> I try with 1Gb USB
Apr 27 12:08:37 <Andy80> (whithout rebooting)
Apr 27 12:09:14 <Andy80> even the 1 Gb is recognized now
Apr 27 12:09:21 <Andy80> without rebooting f2 :)
Apr 27 12:09:27 <iurgi> good
Apr 27 12:09:37 <iurgi> what folder are you trying to write  in?
Apr 27 12:09:51 <Andy80> status says "USB 2.0 Flash Disk"
Apr 27 12:09:56 <Andy80> so it should be compatible...
Apr 27 12:10:12 <iurgi> yup
Apr 27 12:10:23 <iurgi> with ftp, what folder are you trying to write  in?
Apr 27 12:10:25 <Andy80> (remember me to update the wiki)
Apr 27 12:10:53 <Andy80> iurgi: the main
Apr 27 12:11:01 <Andy80> iurgi: there are not any other folder inside...
Apr 27 12:11:16 <Andy80> I just use the "Connect to server..." in Ubuntu
Apr 27 12:11:24 <Andy80> I can try a normal ftp client, wait...
Apr 27 12:12:18 <iurgi> weird
Apr 27 12:12:31 <iurgi> can you run "ls" when you're in?
Apr 27 12:13:39 <Andy80> found :)
Apr 27 12:14:00 <Andy80> in the root folder there is a "Disc-B1" "file"
Apr 27 12:14:10 <iurgi> ok
Apr 27 12:14:14 <Andy80> but it's not a file.... with Filezilla FTP client I see it as a folder
Apr 27 12:14:16 <iurgi> you need to get inside disk-B1
Apr 27 12:14:23 <iurgi> you can't write outside the disk
Apr 27 12:14:26 <Andy80> I can browse it and create folder/files inside of it
Apr 27 12:14:30 <iurgi> yes
Apr 27 12:14:31 <Andy80> ok...
Apr 27 12:14:33 <iurgi> :)
Apr 27 12:14:34 <Andy80> and this is ok
Apr 27 12:14:37 <iurgi> disk-B1 is the disk
Apr 27 12:14:49 <iurgi> if you try to write in the containing (parent) folder
Apr 27 12:14:50 <Andy80> the usb stick is recognized....
Apr 27 12:14:56 <iurgi> you're trying to write in the fonera, not the disk
Apr 27 12:14:57 <iurgi> :)
Apr 27 12:14:59 <iurgi> good
Apr 27 12:15:00 <Andy80> well... let's try the 60Gb 2.5 HD too :)
Apr 27 12:15:11 <iurgi> good luck
Apr 27 12:15:11 <Andy80> I know it needs two usb ports, but... who knows :)
Apr 27 12:15:15 <iurgi> yeah
Apr 27 12:15:16 <iurgi> :)
Apr 27 12:15:39 <iurgi> that's usually a limitation of the usb controller, not the disk
Apr 27 12:15:47 <iurgi> so you can probably buy another case for that disk
Apr 27 12:16:29 <iurgi> out for lunch
Apr 27 12:16:32 <iurgi> longer than Andy80  :P
Apr 27 12:16:33 <iurgi> bbl
Apr 27 12:16:37 <iurgi> in aobut 40min
Apr 27 12:16:40 <Andy80> yes.... it's contained in a 10€ USB box :)
Apr 27 12:16:43 <Andy80> see ya later :)
Apr 27 12:18:04 <Andy80> really don't know HOW.... but it works!!! even with one USB port :)
Apr 27 12:37:07 <Danicasti> Hi Iurgi! I have a problem.... :(
Apr 27 12:37:20 <Andy80> he'll be back in 30 minutes
Apr 27 12:37:49 <Danicasti> Thank's Andy! Ho letto adesso... sob...
Apr 27 12:38:03 <Danicasti> Piacere...
Apr 27 12:54:12 <blogic> Decodecoding: ping
Apr 27 12:54:42 <Decodecoding> Hi blogic. I thought you were on holiday today
Apr 27 12:54:49 <blogic> no
Apr 27 12:54:52 <blogic> :)
Apr 27 12:54:55 <blogic> i just sent you a mail
Apr 27 12:54:58 <Decodecoding> You deserve it
Apr 27 12:54:59 <blogic> with an image
Apr 27 12:55:04 <Decodecoding> ok, I'll check
Apr 27 12:55:08 <blogic> i am ok at the moment
Apr 27 12:55:09 <Decodecoding> hummm
Apr 27 12:55:56 <Decodecoding> I have the mail, but I won't be able to test it until tonight
Apr 27 12:56:03 <blogic> sure
Apr 27 12:56:05 <blogic> no hurry
Apr 27 12:56:09 <Decodecoding> It'll be a pleasure to test it
Apr 27 12:56:12 <blogic> hehe
Apr 27 12:56:14 <blogic> :)
Apr 27 12:56:21 <blogic> lets hope for the best
Apr 27 12:56:42 <blogic> i have 1 more fix i will add/try
Apr 27 12:56:48 <blogic> but it will take a few more hours
Apr 27 12:56:56 <blogic> and i will do a full system test first
Apr 27 12:57:31 <Decodecoding> aha. Count on me for testing. I guess I should use redboot for flashing...
Apr 27 13:01:14 <blogic> yes, please
Apr 27 13:25:48 <iurgi> blogic: I think hughes wanted you to test it with a non-powered usb device
Apr 27 13:26:52 <voorstad> hi. USB soundcard (2,83 euro!!) arrived today!
Apr 27 13:27:36 <voorstad> plugged it in and....... no music with Audiocli. blogic was right, doesn't work in Flipper:-(
Apr 27 13:28:30 <voorstad> ** waiting for Audiocli 0.3 vor fon-ng 2.2.5.0 **
Apr 27 13:28:54 <blogic> which is what i wrote i did
Apr 27 13:28:59 <blogic> :)
Apr 27 13:29:13 <Decodecoding> I hope the Jamendo guys release their plugin soon.
Apr 27 13:29:17 <blogic> i wrote, i tested with non powered pendrives and will get powered ones to also test
Apr 27 13:30:52 <iurgi> yeah, I saw it
Apr 27 13:31:13 <iurgi> what I mean is that he seemed worreid with the fact that the non powered was not working
Apr 27 13:31:16 <iurgi> he just replied again
Apr 27 13:31:17 <blogic> also, i just noticed the psu they shipped me is 2,5A (with us power plug
Apr 27 13:31:28 <blogic> and i use a 1,7A
Apr 27 13:33:17 <iurgi> hmm
Apr 27 13:33:21 <iurgi> I hope that's the cause
Apr 27 13:33:32 <iurgi> sounds reasonable, right?
Apr 27 13:34:23 <blogic> no idea to be honest
Apr 27 13:34:39 <blogic> i am currently fixing the stuff on the todo list and then we will see
Apr 27 13:38:01 <voorstad> ** hoping that Audiocli is on blogic's todo list **
Apr 27 13:38:07 <voorstad> :-)
Apr 27 13:39:34 <iurgi> voorstad: audiocli is in pablo_bz's todo list
Apr 27 13:39:40 <iurgi> he's been busy with other stuff
Apr 27 13:39:45 <iurgi> but he has taken it back
Apr 27 13:39:50 <iurgi> so expect to have something new soon
Apr 27 13:39:53 <iurgi> right pablo_bz?
Apr 27 13:40:06 <pablo_bz> what
Apr 27 13:40:11 <iurgi> read above
Apr 27 13:40:39 <pablo_bz> yes
Apr 27 13:40:55 <pablo_bz> keep your soundcard, it will be very useful
Apr 27 13:42:07 <voorstad> I will!!! I bought one for a (fonero) friend's birthday. And for that money, I ordered one for myself as well.... lol
Apr 27 13:50:50 <iurgi> lol
Apr 27 13:56:54 <Forky> Hello!
Apr 27 13:57:33 <blogic> hi Forky
Apr 27 13:59:30 <Forky> Hola, Decodecoding sabes si esta muy liado Iurgi :(?
Apr 27 14:00:39 <Decodecoding> I think he is busy but these fon guys can type on their keyboards with their feet fingers too :-d
Apr 27 14:03:00 <iurgi> indeed
Apr 27 14:03:05 <iurgi> I'm using my nose right now
Apr 27 14:03:11 <Forky> ei hola!
Apr 27 14:03:53 <Decodecoding> wow, seems like my fonera is suffering attemps to login via ssh...
Apr 27 14:04:08 <Decodecoding> ...and they don't come from me...
Apr 27 14:04:24 <Decodecoding> Apr 25 23:53:51 Fonera authpriv.warn dropbear[4964]: bad password attempt for 'root' from 219.237.242.165:49633
Apr 27 14:04:57 <blogic> Decodecoding: we have ssh hammering :)
Apr 27 14:05:36 <Decodecoding> I know. I wasn't worried. Just to let know those botnets never sleep
Apr 27 14:06:26 <Andy80> does the torrent client work for you? I've downloaded successfully the .iso of ubuntu-alternate* but I cannot download another .iso from the same website.... it's always 0%.... I don't think I've no seeds, but I can verify it opening on my PC with another bittorrent client...
Apr 27 14:06:59 <voorstad> ha, with me it is the other way around!
Apr 27 14:07:35 <voorstad> I 1st tried the alternate via "add via pc" => 0% for hours
Apr 27 14:07:38 <blogic> Andy80: please try it with a different client to verify
Apr 27 14:08:15 <voorstad> I then tried the desktop via "add via fonero hdd" and this one is downloading
Apr 27 14:08:37 <Decodecoding> Andy80: give it time. In the end it will start downloading
Apr 27 14:08:44 <kazwo> maybe tracker problems
Apr 27 14:09:08 <Andy80> blogic: with deluge client I can see 51 seeders and 4 peers. But... download doesn't start anyway, also in deluge :\
Apr 27 14:09:22 <pablo_bz> deluge?
Apr 27 14:09:46 <Andy80> deluge torrent
Apr 27 14:09:54 <Andy80> it's a multi platform bittorrent client
Apr 27 14:10:03 <Andy80> I'm using it to test if the torrent works
Apr 27 14:10:25 <blogic> ok
Apr 27 14:10:33 <blogic> then add the torreent to the fonera and just wait a bit
Apr 27 14:11:30 <pablo_bz> i see, deluge is a libtorrent-based client
Apr 27 14:11:56 <pablo_bz> i thought you had it running in la fonera
Apr 27 14:12:01 <Andy80> no no :)
Apr 27 14:16:43 <pablo_bz> never mind, i am dumb as a rolling stone :)
Apr 27 14:22:14 <Decodecoding> I get this log from time to time: guess it is normal, but just to let know: Apr 26 00:10:10 Fonera local6.info chillispot[2514]: options.c: 782: Rereading configuration file and doing DNS lookup
Apr 27 14:22:32 <blogic> that is normal
Apr 27 14:23:01 <Decodecoding> I'll try to reproduce the error log
Apr 27 14:27:37 <Danicasti> Iurgi: I have a problem with youtube uploader
Apr 27 14:28:52 <Danicasti> it's possible upload files .AVI?
Apr 27 14:29:19 <Decodecoding> I think avi is not yet supported
Apr 27 14:29:27 <Decodecoding> maybe I'm wrong
Apr 27 14:30:18 <Danicasti> If i upload direct to youtube web page work!
Apr 27 14:31:36 <Danicasti> My flycamone2 record in .AVI files...
Apr 27 14:31:40 <Danicasti> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipjrNZmzpb4
Apr 27 14:31:44 <Danicasti> :)
Apr 27 14:32:07 <Decodecoding> Yes, youtube supports every type of files
Apr 27 14:32:26 <Danicasti> ...and F2 not...
Apr 27 14:32:32 <Danicasti> why?
Apr 27 14:33:10 <iurgi> hmmm
Apr 27 14:33:14 <iurgi> I think avi is supported
Apr 27 14:33:21 <iurgi> hmmm
Apr 27 14:33:28 <iurgi> try renaming from .AVI to .avi...
Apr 27 14:34:02 <blogic> avi for what servi ce ?
Apr 27 14:34:05 <blogic> youtube ?
Apr 27 14:34:08 <iurgi> yez
Apr 27 14:36:21 <Danicasti> no... don't work .avi...
Apr 27 14:36:58 <Danicasti> it's listed .mpeg4 mpeg ... avi not...
Apr 27 14:37:17 <iurgi> ahhhh
Apr 27 14:37:18 <iurgi> I see
Apr 27 14:39:03 <Danicasti> iurgi: You can do anything?
Apr 27 14:43:09 <iurgi> well, I don't know the internals of the youtube uploader
Apr 27 14:43:30 <iurgi> my guess is that the format type should not make any difference and the extension is used only for identification purposes
Apr 27 14:43:33 <iurgi> but I might be wrong
Apr 27 14:43:38 <iurgi> if you wanna give it a try
Apr 27 14:43:43 <iurgi> try by editing this file
Apr 27 14:43:46 <iurgi> (1 sec)
Apr 27 14:46:12 <iurgi> jiojdarn
Apr 27 14:46:16 <iurgi> my serial port is crazy
Apr 27 14:46:21 <iurgi> give me more than 1 sec
Apr 27 14:46:22 <iurgi> :P
Apr 27 14:49:13 <blogic> iurgi: which is correct ?
Apr 27 14:49:13 <blogic> -torrent_select = "Añadir del disco"
Apr 27 14:49:13 <blogic> +torrent_select = "Aádir del disco"
Apr 27 14:49:53 <iurgi> well, let me check it... but I'm pretty sure it looked correct in my laptop
Apr 27 14:50:26 <iurgi> it's correct
Apr 27 14:50:29 <iurgi> the new is fine
Apr 27 14:50:44 <blogic> http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/changeset/677
Apr 27 14:50:49 <blogic> but in the wrong folder
Apr 27 14:50:54 <blogic> let me fix it
Apr 27 14:51:16 <iurgi> why is it the wrong folder?
Apr 27 14:51:28 <iurgi> the change seems correct to me
Apr 27 14:51:38 <iurgi> both the folder and the content
Apr 27 14:52:38 <blogic> the changes are made in lang/
Apr 27 14:52:52 <blogic> otherwise redeploy breaks everything
Apr 27 14:52:58 <blogic> that is the reason we added the lang folder
Apr 27 14:53:00 <blogic> remember ?
Apr 27 14:53:02 <iurgi> no
Apr 27 14:53:09 <iurgi> never told me that was the reason
Apr 27 14:53:11 <iurgi> now I know
Apr 27 14:53:30 <iurgi> I thought the process was applications -> lang -> applications
Apr 27 14:53:36 <iurgi> never was told otherwise
Apr 27 14:53:43 <blogic> ok
Apr 27 14:53:43 <iurgi> anyway, not a big deal
Apr 27 14:53:45 <blogic> no
Apr 27 14:53:48 <blogic> i dont worry
Apr 27 14:53:54 <iurgi> next time I change it in lang
Apr 27 14:53:55 <blogic> i just dont speak spanish
Apr 27 14:54:05 <iurgi> yeah
Apr 27 14:54:06 <blogic> so i had no idea which of the 2 files was the fixed one
Apr 27 14:54:10 <blogic> :)
Apr 27 14:54:12 <iurgi> ok
Apr 27 14:54:14 <iurgi> makes sense
Apr 27 14:59:53 <Danicasti> iurgi: any idea?
Apr 27 15:03:47 <iurgi> Danicasti: sorry, I'm having trouble with my fonera
Apr 27 15:03:48 <iurgi> 1min
Apr 27 15:04:11 <iurgi> blogic so we don't need get_langs.sh or so anymore, rihgt?
Apr 27 15:04:52 <blogic> iurgi: no
Apr 27 15:04:56 <blogic> iurgi: i dont think so
Apr 27 15:05:03 <zen2> I'm having trouble to start php-fcgi on the F2...
Apr 27 15:05:25 <zen2> I get a "failed: cannot alocate memory..." !"#!"#!
Apr 27 15:05:40 <iurgi> zen2: out of memory imo
Apr 27 15:05:41 <iurgi> :)
Apr 27 15:05:47 <Danicasti> iurgi: no problem! Good work!
Apr 27 15:07:28 <iurgi> Danicasti: I'd say it's /etc/config/gdata
Apr 27 15:07:32 <iurgi> try adding something like:
Apr 27 15:08:00 <iurgi> option 'avi' 'video/avi'
Apr 27 15:08:06 <iurgi> no clue if it will work...
Apr 27 15:08:07 <iurgi> but maybe
Apr 27 15:10:36 <Decodecoding> I'd apreciate fonera would feature nano instead of vi . I'm terribly dumb using vi.
Apr 27 15:10:58 <Danicasti> I try! Thanks!
Apr 27 15:11:09 <iurgi> Decodecoding: lol
Apr 27 15:11:10 <iurgi> get used
Apr 27 15:11:14 <iurgi> I did :)
Apr 27 15:11:18 <Decodecoding> :'(
Apr 27 15:11:22 <iurgi> vi is muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch more powerful than nano
Apr 27 15:11:25 <iurgi> nano is too simple
Apr 27 15:11:34 <Decodecoding> :'(:'(
Apr 27 15:11:40 <blogic> Decodecoding: i sec
Apr 27 15:11:45 <mib_45rwf9> bye!
Apr 27 15:11:50 <iurgi> ciao
Apr 27 15:11:53 <CyrusFF> Decodecoding: nano requires curses, but you can install it with opkg
Apr 27 15:11:55 <mib_45rwf9> ;)
Apr 27 15:12:00 <CyrusFF> nano = huuuuuuuuuuuuge
Apr 27 15:12:16 <Decodecoding> I knew there shold be a bad part...
Apr 27 15:12:20 <blogic> uci set gdata.mime_yt.avi="video/avi";uci commit gdata
Apr 27 15:12:31 <blogic> Decodecoding: use that line
Apr 27 15:12:50 <iurgi> ok, that's the clean way to do it XD
Apr 27 15:12:52 <iurgi> hehe
Apr 27 15:13:02 <iurgi> blogic: so it's basically an extension problem, right?
Apr 27 15:13:22 <blogic> yes
Apr 27 15:13:26 <iurgi> cool!
Apr 27 15:13:59 <Decodecoding> So if you include video file types don't forget .wmv wich is the crap Windows generates... (6)
Apr 27 15:16:00 <Decodecoding> Many people editing video with Movie Maker... (A)
Apr 27 15:17:28 <blogic> ok
Apr 27 15:17:49 <Decodecoding> and .3gp
Apr 27 15:18:21 <CyrusFF> whats 3gp?
Apr 27 15:18:44 <Decodecoding> The crappy video format used by many mobile phones...
Apr 27 15:19:23 <Decodecoding> Blackberry, Samsung...
Apr 27 15:19:27 <CyrusFF> ah thx
Apr 27 15:22:50 <iurgi> youtube accepts 3gp and wmv?
Apr 27 15:23:26 <Decodecoding> yes, they do
Apr 27 15:23:49 <Decodecoding> I think they swallow anything you send...
Apr 27 15:27:55 <iurgi> ok
Apr 27 15:30:40 <Andy80> I've got an idea for a plugin :)
Apr 27 15:31:00 <blogic> ok ?
Apr 27 15:31:17 <Andy80> first... support for bluetooth... then, a plugin that gets short text messages via bluetooth and use it to set facebook and/or twitter status
Apr 27 15:31:25 <Andy80> what do you think about?
Apr 27 15:31:38 <blogic> i like it
Apr 27 15:31:43 <iurgi> yeah
Apr 27 15:31:46 <blogic> we sort of have bluetooth working
Apr 27 15:31:59 <iurgi> long time no see rwhitby
Apr 27 15:32:07 <iurgi> but he made it work, yeah
Apr 27 15:32:10 <Decodecoding> I have a bluetooth dongle wich I don't use
Apr 27 15:32:28 <Decodecoding> available for any experiments
Apr 27 15:32:41 <Andy80> the only problem is that we would like so many features and we have only one usb port... maybe using a USB hub?!
Apr 27 15:32:57 <Andy80> I've a bt-usb dongle too
Apr 27 15:33:28 <iurgi> Andy80: by a hub
Apr 27 15:33:29 <iurgi> :)
Apr 27 15:33:33 <Decodecoding> I'd love a usb plugin wich could broadcast bluetooth messages to mobile phones nearby
Apr 27 15:33:57 <iurgi> that's called "SPAM"
Apr 27 15:34:01 <iurgi> we'r enot gonna do that
Apr 27 15:34:02 <iurgi> :P
Apr 27 15:34:05 <Decodecoding> Sort of advertising for your fon spot (6)
Apr 27 15:34:19 <iurgi> lol
Apr 27 15:34:25 <Decodecoding> I would (6)
Apr 27 15:34:32 <iurgi> it's a very good idea but I would never do that
Apr 27 15:34:33 <Decodecoding> No mercy
Apr 27 15:34:41 <iurgi> hehe
Apr 27 15:35:17 <Decodecoding> Well, let's be goog then. Maybe provide access to the fon spot without wifi, via bt...
Apr 27 15:35:42 <Andy80> brrr.... when I activate bluetooth on my mobile phone and I'm near my university I got spammed by these messages :(
Apr 27 15:37:19 <Decodecoding> I have BT always on in my BB but I never get spam. Guess I must have some restriction...
Apr 27 15:38:15 <iurgi> Andy80: really?
Apr 27 15:38:39 <iurgi> you probably don't broadcast your device
Apr 27 15:39:04 <Andy80> iurgi: yes :\ and even when I'm near the train station.... between Florence (Firenze) and my city
Apr 27 15:39:26 <iurgi> wow
Apr 27 15:39:32 <iurgi> hmmm
Apr 27 15:39:40 * iurgi has BT always off to save battery
Apr 27 15:39:46 <iurgi> maybe that's why I never get spam?
Apr 27 15:41:09 <Andy80> me too usually... but when I'm in train, I sometimes turn bt on, to be able to use my UMTS connection from my nokia tablet
Apr 27 15:41:19 <iurgi> ahhhhhh
Apr 27 15:41:21 <iurgi> ok
Apr 27 15:44:31 <blogic> ls
Apr 27 15:49:21 <iurgi> Apps     dev      home     lib      proc     root     sys
Apr 27 15:49:31 <iurgi> bin      etc      jffs     mnt      rom      sbin     tmp      usr      www
Apr 27 15:49:33 <iurgi> lol
Apr 27 15:50:20 <zen2_> iurgi: ?
Apr 27 15:54:25 <iurgi> zen2_: ?
Apr 27 15:54:28 <iurgi> ah
Apr 27 15:54:32 <iurgi> I was doing an ls
Apr 27 15:56:01 <Danicasti> Iurgi: youtube uploader works! Maybe in the file explorer not appear the youtube add icon... :(
Apr 27 15:56:51 <Danicasti> ...for the .avi files...
Apr 27 16:13:20 <iurgi> Danicasti: hmmm
Apr 27 16:13:37 <iurgi> easy
Apr 27 16:15:10 <iurgi> uci set fon_browser.mime.avi="video/avi"; uci commit fon_browser
Apr 27 16:15:17 <iurgi> that will consider it as a video type
Apr 27 16:15:23 <iurgi> now, I think you also need to add another line
Apr 27 16:15:37 <Danicasti> ok! I try... :)
Apr 27 16:15:39 <iurgi> but it has a different format so I need to check how to add it
Apr 27 16:30:25 <DaW> so, bluetooth is working ?
Apr 27 16:31:06 <iurgi> Danicasti: uci add_list fon_browser.youtube.filter="video/avi"; uci commit fon_browser
Apr 27 16:31:09 <iurgi> you also need that
Apr 27 16:31:21 <iurgi> DaW: well, rwhitby is the expert on that
Apr 27 16:31:26 <iurgi> I believe he managed to make it work
Apr 27 16:31:30 <iurgi> but I'm not 100% sure
Apr 27 16:31:35 <DaW> woho
Apr 27 16:31:38 <iurgi> in any case, it's not workin gin the current firmware
Apr 27 16:31:43 <DaW> oh oh oh
Apr 27 16:31:56 <DaW> can you hardwire an sd card slot on the fonera 2.0 too ?
Apr 27 16:31:59 <DaW> like on the old ones
Apr 27 16:32:12 <DaW> so you dont havve to use the usb por
Apr 27 16:32:13 <DaW> t
Apr 27 16:32:56 <iurgi> DaW: no clue... if you could do that on the F+, then yes
Apr 27 16:33:08 <iurgi> if it was in a Fonera 1.0... maybe not, but I have no clue
Apr 27 16:33:16 <DaW> i think you can
Apr 27 16:33:25 <DaW> coz see, that would be more usefull
Apr 27 16:33:34 <DaW> than plugging it into the usb port
Apr 27 16:34:02 <iurgi> for someone that can do it, yeah, maybe
Apr 27 16:34:54 <DaW> can anybody take some pics of the insides ? :)
Apr 27 16:35:30 <Decodecoding> I think I'll open mine tonight. If I remember I'll post some pictures in the mail list
Apr 27 16:35:37 <DaW> oh
Apr 27 16:35:39 <DaW> i found some
Apr 27 16:35:44 <iurgi> good
Apr 27 16:35:49 <DaW> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22575313@N04/3108144560/
Apr 27 16:36:00 <DaW> damn
Apr 27 16:36:03 <DaW> their not very big
Apr 27 16:36:06 <iurgi> there you go
Apr 27 16:36:10 <Decodecoding> DaW , what is the purpose of that?
Apr 27 16:36:25 <DaW> i like looking inside things :D
Apr 27 16:36:49 <Decodecoding> Sure, but you want to connect a memory card inside?
Apr 27 16:37:13 <DaW> yeah
Apr 27 16:37:22 <Decodecoding> those pictures are from F 1.0
Apr 27 16:37:31 <Decodecoding> F 2.0 is different inside
Apr 27 16:37:38 <DaW> no their not
Apr 27 16:37:46 <DaW> you can see the usb port
Apr 27 16:38:08 <DaW> http://www.flickr.com/photos/22575313@N04/3107320653/in/photostream/
Apr 27 16:38:53 <Decodecoding> I don't see it. Maybe I got the link wrong
Apr 27 16:42:13 <DaW> how anywhere i could get some fonera 1.0 for cheap ? :D
Apr 27 16:42:17 <DaW> or free
Apr 27 16:44:18 <Decodecoding> I see FOnera 1.0 is no longer for sale in fon.com...
Apr 27 16:44:46 <Decodecoding> Oh, sorry, it is indeed
Apr 27 16:44:47 <iurgi> that's a 2.0
Apr 27 18:03:34 <pm2036> iurgi: my bug is a bug!!!
Apr 27 18:03:39 <pm2036> I have solve it :P
Apr 27 18:04:33 <pm2036> the fonera 2.0 accept a password of 12 char but not allow access through webgui (so problem with lucittpd). With ssh, it works fine
Apr 27 18:08:07 <Barbon> olà
Apr 27 18:10:29 <Barbon> news about future?
Apr 27 18:12:26 <dexter_> hi (again)
Apr 27 18:13:28 <Barbon> hi dexter
Apr 27 18:14:05 <dexter_> i'm trying to flah the fonera2 to the developer delphin version, and throuh the tar.gz developer file it appears that i can flash the fon
Apr 27 18:15:05 <dexter_> but i cannot use the ssh connection, after several reboots and several flashes ...
Apr 27 18:15:26 <dexter_> so, that's why i'm here :)
Apr 27 18:15:49 <Barbon> redboot dont work?
Apr 27 18:16:36 <dexter_> redboot? i know what it is, but not which is the relation wiyh ssh
Apr 27 18:18:14 <dexter_> after flashing the device, should not be the ssh already opened permanently?
Apr 27 18:24:28 <dexter_> in wikj.fon...get_started says how to flash the fon in the expert mode, where the first paragraph is about flashing through the web interface
Apr 27 18:25:31 <dexter_> after doing what is said, it advises that a reboot is needed to enable the ssh, two reboots indeed,
Apr 27 18:25:41 <dexter_> but it has not worked for me
Apr 27 18:27:21 <Barbon> i dunno sorry :/
Apr 27 18:28:09 <dexter_> is there any way to see if the firmware installed is hte developer version? i suspect that since the fon already has the last version (but not developer) it does not install the another version
Apr 27 18:28:27 <xMff> develper versions are green afaik
Apr 27 18:28:33 <xMff> enduser ones are orange
Apr 27 18:29:44 <dexter_> i have orange then
Apr 27 18:31:18 <dexter_> after the counter has finished, all the leds in the router are ok, but i cannot connect to it, i have to unplug (dc) and plug again to be able to xommunicate again, is that correct?
Apr 27 18:32:59 <dexter_> (i am referring to the counter of the upgrading step)
Apr 27 18:42:08 <DaW> has anybody received their foneras who bought them on tuesday ?
Apr 27 19:29:51 <Otacon22> hi all
Apr 27 19:31:02 <Otacon22> i made a mistake and my fon 2.0 is down... i've modified the /etc/inittab file... there is no way to bring it up again, so i need to flash is, i know how to do but i don't know wich image use
Apr 27 19:31:12 <Otacon22> wich is the most stable?
Apr 27 19:31:24 <Otacon22> i NEED to have the webcam functionality
Apr 27 19:37:20 <dexter_> just now i've reflashed again, however i can only see the public wifi, i've lost the peivate wifi, should i have to disconect and conect the router?
Apr 27 20:03:14 <ilidiam1> someone know how i can send a mail from fonera ?
Apr 27 20:03:36 <ilidiam1> i'm developed a rss app and i want send a log mail
Apr 27 20:04:13 <ilidiam1> but all acount need SSL and i can't compile openssl in the fonera
Apr 27 20:04:46 <ilidiam1> someone know an alternative method to do it ?
Apr 27 21:52:52 <burton-ng> hello
Apr 27 21:53:14 <burton-ng> anybody managed to update from enduser version of flpper to development version???
Apr 27 21:53:49 <burton-ng> i am trying to flash using web gui but at the end of the precess everything remains as before
Apr 27 21:53:52 <burton-ng> no single change
Apr 27 21:56:14 <cesardeluxe-ng> hi there
Apr 27 22:40:00 <burton-ng> hi
Apr 27 22:55:34 <burton-ng> can someone give some help¿
Apr 27 22:55:46 <burton-ng> i am trying to update to developer version of flipper
Apr 27 22:55:59 <burton-ng> but there is no change after whole process
Apr 27 22:56:20 <burton-ng> and i cant enter redboot so i am using the web gui process
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