**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 07 02:59:57 2009 May 07 06:44:55 Hi! Buongiorno! May 07 07:44:53 buon giorno May 07 07:46:42 hi May 07 08:28:21 hi all May 07 08:28:35 hi May 07 08:28:39 c_up: hi May 07 08:28:45 hat das funktioniert ? May 07 08:28:58 schreib dir gerade ne imail mit den ergebnissen May 07 08:29:12 oki May 07 08:30:17 good morning May 07 08:30:27 good morning deco May 07 08:31:18 hi May 07 08:31:52 hi. Couldn't test much the image Iurgi sent to me May 07 08:32:07 I brought the fonera today to my office and have it here testing May 07 08:32:18 while I do my stuff May 07 08:33:01 ist raus May 07 08:33:04 one question: this rc1 image contains the samba modifications? May 07 08:33:18 win 7rc1? May 07 08:33:46 no, I mean a test fonera image May 07 08:34:25 blogic achja, was ich vergessen hatte, der zugriff mit samba und vista funktioert noch immer nur, wenn man im vista die NTLM einstellung für NAS zugriff vornimmt May 07 08:34:46 no smb doesn't work you have to do: May 07 08:34:56 (with vista an win 7) May 07 08:35:24 you have to do the following: http://www.tweakvista.com/article39001.aspx May 07 08:35:36 it is not included in that image May 07 08:35:45 testet it yesterday May 07 08:36:15 the problem is that Vista home versions do not include secpol.msc :'( May 07 08:36:26 ups May 07 08:36:48 hmmm May 07 08:36:49 ok May 07 08:37:00 anyway, If you confirm that the samba enhancements are not included in this image, it's ok May 07 08:37:59 yes not included May 07 08:41:05 i think it was :( May 07 08:41:09 we will see May 07 08:41:41 I keep getting the 14 Mb size limitation May 07 08:41:43 bought this today, to try out the new audio plugin http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=260363352026 May 07 08:42:15 what is the 14 Mb size limitation, where do you get it? May 07 08:43:00 If I create a network drive, Windows only recognizes 14 Mb free space in the fonera disk May 07 08:43:07 c_up: that is the usb audio card i have May 07 08:44:25 ;) iurgi said that wil work May 07 08:44:33 or you said!? hm May 07 08:44:45 I have the same one May 07 08:46:34 you have see 14MB on your USB disk connected with fonera with windows? May 07 08:47:08 extreme cheap that sound thing ;) May 07 08:51:36 yes 14 MB only May 07 08:53:04 and if I don't do a registry tweak, can't even log in May 07 08:56:01 ssh acces from wan with dyndns works fine! May 07 08:56:11 c_up: :) May 07 08:56:17 c_up: i want vpn :) May 07 08:56:50 i think the new firmware would be perfect May 07 08:56:52 blogic, the upload speed column has ben removed? May 07 08:57:00 geht eigentlich ein tunnel per putty ? May 07 08:57:16 wäre auch nicht schlecht May 07 08:57:16 c_up: jein/ja May 07 08:57:24 geht, aber keine ahnung wie :) May 07 08:57:45 mal testen May 07 08:58:47 c_up: ich will das einbauen May 07 08:58:54 http://www.l2gvpn.org/ May 07 09:03:50 sieht interesant aus May 07 09:03:57 jau May 07 09:04:00 24k binary May 07 09:04:13 freifunk benutzt das um ihre mesh woljen zu vernetzen May 07 09:04:19 bzw einige der wolke May 07 09:04:22 ist ganz nett May 07 09:04:33 hatte um weihnachten rum einen hack flash :) das das resultat May 07 09:04:58 das ist quasi switch over ip May 07 09:06:22 blogic, only 1 download at a time. Is this allright? May 07 09:07:09 was hat das für vorteile, ein switch lan über wan aufzubauen? May 07 09:07:32 Decodecoding: rs.com dl 2 DLs at the same time May 07 09:08:01 i've changed to 3 and it works fine May 07 09:08:32 c_up I'm testing the torrent app May 07 09:08:46 ok May 07 09:09:05 I should have said 2 torrents downloading at a time ;-) May 07 09:09:31 xD May 07 09:09:31 But if I activate a second one, the first is paused May 07 09:10:11 or is set to waiting May 07 09:10:26 I'll keep testing (y) May 07 09:26:01 time 4 lunch May 07 09:51:42 BLogic, I see that in the torrent queue, when speed is cero, the next one starts downloading. Is this right? I remember someone suggested this... May 07 09:53:07 no May 07 09:53:15 i am testing the gui today May 07 09:53:25 oops May 07 09:53:38 they gui is not final yet, sorry May 07 09:54:08 no problem. I'll take notes of what I find and then I'll send an email to you reporting May 07 09:54:45 cool May 07 10:12:27 hey May 07 10:17:45 hi May 07 10:17:51 zen2: any news? May 07 10:38:01 i crashed fonera adding rs links xD May 07 10:40:58 Darick: how?? May 07 10:41:59 i added 20 links... May 07 10:42:08 iurgi: hi May 07 10:42:16 things are moving on... :) May 07 10:42:21 zen2: good May 07 10:42:26 you making progress? May 07 10:42:30 yes. May 07 10:42:35 very good May 07 10:42:53 right now I need to find a way to get php5 + sqlite to fit on the F2 flash... May 07 10:43:05 ouch May 07 10:43:10 I managed to get php4 + fastcgi and still have 500kb free. May 07 10:43:18 ah May 07 10:43:26 did you remove unnecessary stuff? May 07 10:43:35 when compiling I mean May 07 10:43:42 yes. lots of files. May 07 10:43:46 coova, fonsmcd etc May 07 10:43:51 zen2: lots offiles? May 07 10:44:00 you're not deleting them INSIDE the fonera, right? May 07 10:44:12 I started with 1.5Mb of free flash May 07 10:44:26 and now got about to 4.4Mb May 07 10:44:31 hmmm May 07 10:44:35 you need to May 07 10:44:41 1) remove the failsafe image May 07 10:44:45 I used menuconfig, ans unselected everything I didn't need May 07 10:44:49 2) remove applications on compile time May 07 10:44:50 ok May 07 10:44:54 tthat's vorrect May 07 10:44:57 correct May 07 10:45:00 yep, that was one of the first steps May 07 10:45:04 did you remove the failsafe image? May 07 10:45:15 yes. image2 May 07 10:45:18 ok May 07 10:45:29 but then you shuold have about 6MB free, imo May 07 10:45:36 wait.. I think the 4.4MB free was before I remoed image2 May 07 10:45:40 ah May 07 10:45:44 that's fine then yes May 07 10:46:16 because kernel + basic stuff should not be much more than 1.6MB or so(compressed in squashfs) May 07 10:46:19 getting php in there was "#$!$"!$!"#$"! May 07 10:46:28 I can imagine May 07 10:46:30 hehe May 07 10:46:37 had to reflash lots of times... because I was always missing a efw Kb... May 07 10:46:53 I installed lighttpd + fastcgi + php4 + sqlite May 07 10:57:32 is a feature plant, to save and restore router config? May 07 10:58:08 yes, it's planned May 07 11:02:08 nice May 07 11:20:51 I'm starting to fear many of the problems I have are related to the crappy hard disks I have. May 07 11:21:30 From now on I'll test with a 16Gb flash memory and see May 07 11:22:06 Decodecoding: what problems are you experiencing now? May 07 11:22:32 It comes a time, when downloading that fonera becomes irresponsive. May 07 11:22:49 Hard disk light stops blinking May 07 11:22:49 hmmm May 07 11:22:52 torrent? May 07 11:22:54 yes May 07 11:22:56 ah May 07 11:22:58 hmmm May 07 11:23:03 might be the disk... May 07 11:23:05 I'm focused in torrent May 07 11:23:06 what filesystem? May 07 11:23:10 ext3 May 07 11:23:34 Now I'll switch to the USB flash with FAT32 and see May 07 11:24:44 Call me idiot, but I have the feeling that it goes smoother with the USB plash memory. My hard disks are IDE ones inside USB cases May 07 11:25:00 Too old and too crappy I guess May 07 11:26:17 Anyway, I suppose flash memories are the future (A) May 07 11:29:18 hard disks work fine for me... May 07 11:29:20 but May 07 11:29:36 if you're doing a lot of tests and the fonera crashes/reboots often to you May 07 11:29:42 I suggest you use flash May 07 11:29:57 the disk spins... and I don't think it's good to stop it suddenly so often May 07 11:30:11 vamos, que igual te cargas el disco si jugueteas mucho May 07 11:30:12 XD May 07 11:30:19 xDDDDDDDDD May 07 11:39:24 I know. Well, I've formatted them many times May 07 11:40:22 To be honest, I prefer flash device, let energy consumption, although I'm sure there's a max number of r/w cycles. May 07 11:42:20 :'(:'( It crashed with the flash memory too May 07 11:44:26 Only good thing is you can resume from the same point May 07 13:18:09 hi May 07 13:18:28 back from lunch (b) May 07 13:19:55 also! May 07 13:20:43 has anyone tried to use a huawei E160e modem? May 07 13:20:57 (the cheap small one, with micro sd slot) May 07 13:24:42 as long as I don't enter the webgui, there is no crash or hang up May 07 13:24:54 (hm) May 07 13:26:15 ? May 07 13:26:20 Decodecoding: what you mean ? May 07 13:27:28 Yo see. I start a torrent and close the webgui. No problem then. It keeps working and downloading. But if I enter the webgui one or a couple times, in the end, fonera freezes and eventually reboots. May 07 13:28:13 I'm using now a 16Gb flash memory in FAT32 format. May 07 13:30:41 blogic: sounds like the problem I had a couple of times as well May 07 13:31:00 three's something weird when accessing web UI after some time May 07 13:36:37 Decodecoding: does this happen with ext2 aswell ? May 07 13:43:48 I'm fraid so May 07 13:43:58 and ext3 aswell May 07 13:44:14 dunno May 07 13:48:58 I confirm the above problem... I've stried ext2, hfs+ and vfat... ext2 has the least chance to have the above error... but it happened and keep happening... like 1 time - 2 times a day May 07 13:50:49 when you open the gui it reboots ? May 07 13:50:56 never seen that in 8 months May 07 13:51:33 first it becomes irresponsive. Can't pass login field and some seconds later ir reboots by itself May 07 13:51:59 I'll try to reproduce it now again May 07 13:52:15 dont have to May 07 13:52:25 i just do not know May 07 13:52:54 Now I entered succesfully May 07 13:53:09 haha May 07 13:53:25 This usually happens :$ May 07 13:56:22 Now it's behaving well, but it has already did this before... :-d May 07 13:57:55 yeah, it happened to me a couple of times May 07 13:57:59 there's something weird there May 07 13:58:20 we should try to get more info of what happens inside the fonera when this happens May 07 13:58:42 we ? May 07 13:58:43 bye, have to lerave! May 07 13:58:46 i am not we :) May 07 13:58:54 I'll plug the serial tonight to try to see something May 07 13:58:57 the sentence looks wrong May 07 13:58:59 :) May 07 13:59:06 yes ;) May 07 14:01:37 Decodecoding: thanks May 07 14:01:58 It's ok May 07 16:48:04 ...one question... After reboot the clock of F2 May 07 16:48:10 uhm.. May 07 16:48:29 The date of F2 is 25 April... May 07 16:48:54 How set the TZ permanently??? May 07 16:48:59 hmmm... mine is still 21 apr... haha May 07 16:49:10 eheh! May 07 16:49:33 iirc the time you see there is set during boot and derived from the firmware build date May 07 16:50:01 since the fonera has no (battery backed) rtc it can't keep the time during reboot May 07 16:50:10 And for set the Timezone? May 07 16:50:19 Italia? May 07 16:50:28 hmm on OpenWrt the TZ is set in /etc/config/system May 07 16:50:38 option "timezone" in config system May 07 16:50:47 i try... thanks! May 07 16:50:48 not sure if this is the case on Fon-NG too May 07 16:51:24 Danicasti: here's a list of valid tz values: http://luci.freifunk-halle.net/UserDocs/TimeZones May 07 16:51:53 for rome that would be "CET-1CEST,M3.5.0,M10.5.0/3" May 07 16:53:31 Yes for Rome. After reboot the tz is set to CET... May 07 16:53:39 good May 07 16:53:59 Danicasti: the TZ will remain, but the time needs to be refreshed on every reboot May 07 16:54:06 sometimes it fails, because there's a bug May 07 16:54:21 iurgi: Thanks! May 07 16:54:28 there's many servers to ask to, but I think only 1 is used :o May 07 16:54:33 need to confirm it though May 07 16:54:35 XD May 07 16:54:39 Ok! May 07 16:54:43 anyway, we will try to fix it for th enext release May 07 16:55:03 Iurgi: you are magic! May 07 16:55:05 iurgi: how do you handle tz settings? User configurable or depending on the selected language? May 07 16:55:50 still haven't manged it to try fon-ng :P May 07 16:56:47 Now back at home... Goodbye! May 07 16:57:29 I'm tired today :( May 07 16:57:55 more coffee :) May 07 16:58:02 or black tea May 07 17:01:59 Iurgi: 4 hours uptime with no failure and entering the gui.... This is a true X-File... May 07 17:03:26 See ya later (y) May 07 17:12:25 xMff: I don't think we do anything lang related May 07 17:35:38 9 days uptime.. :p May 07 17:35:59 zen2_: nice May 07 18:12:05 CyrusFF: there? May 07 18:12:15 yes May 07 18:14:15 hi May 07 18:14:35 hi May 07 20:14:54 summer's come! May 07 20:15:30 hacking routers gets harder and harder :-d May 07 20:15:40 why ? xD May 07 20:16:23 it's warmer and new things to do (b) May 07 20:16:52 By the way, is anybody focusing on testing the torrent app May 07 20:16:54 ? May 07 20:17:09 So that we can compare experiences May 07 20:17:16 :) May 07 20:52:18 hi all May 07 21:15:45 hi May 07 21:18:55 heya May 07 21:19:34 hi ya May 07 21:27:53 hi there May 07 21:28:02 hi!! May 07 21:28:12 :) May 07 21:28:47 Hi guys. I'd like to know what parts of projects about fonera 2 are you working on. May 07 21:28:49 i was wondering if webcam will be working through wan in future firmwares.... May 07 21:28:53 is there any work on that? May 07 21:29:28 i have read that it works but it as deactivated as it was not very secure May 07 21:29:47 In previous firms (2.2.3) it used to work through WAN bot now it is buggy. I guess it is in the TO DO list. May 07 21:30:03 hope tht May 07 21:30:22 lol y payed almost 30€ 4a webcam to use that feature May 07 21:30:44 Wich model have you bought? May 07 21:30:54 logitech e3500 May 07 21:31:41 Me too! I bought it for 22 € May 07 21:31:50 me for 28 May 07 21:32:00 It is a goog model. With integratec mic. May 07 21:32:01 whre did you find such a deal? May 07 21:32:18 A friend's store :-d May 07 21:32:23 yeah i have tried it on my mac and the quality is great May 07 21:32:49 but once it is plugged to the fonera... May 07 21:33:03 n oquality May 07 21:34:52 well in the todo list there is no mention on updating webcam aplication May 07 21:35:03 yes May 07 21:35:04 just torrent, rapidshare and speed May 07 21:35:27 I think torrent is the most delicate issue. May 07 21:35:41 where is the todo list? May 07 21:35:42 http://blog.fonosfera.org/ here i see that. May 07 21:35:51 I'm testing it intensively to find out what goes wrong May 07 21:35:52 they are improving sound as well May 07 21:39:47 yeah where is the todo list? May 07 22:09:41 good night May 07 22:12:11 night. May 07 22:21:43 anyone awake? May 07 22:25:29 yep May 07 22:25:33 and kickin May 07 22:25:46 pm May 07 22:39:15 anyone got dsl - > fonera access from the wan?? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 08 02:59:57 2009