**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 27 02:59:57 2009
May 27 06:34:16 <Danicasti> Hi! Buongiorno!
May 27 08:08:25 <blogic> moin CyrusFF
May 27 08:08:49 <CyrusFF> moin
May 27 08:22:03 <c_up> moin
May 27 08:23:55 <blogic> tag
May 27 08:36:19 <Decodecoding> Good morning
May 27 08:37:03 <Decodecoding> Everybody to the Fon offices to eat ham!!!
May 27 08:38:12 <blogic> ?
May 27 08:38:33 <Decodecoding> They have Iberico...
May 27 08:40:59 <iurgi> Decodecoding: how do you know?
May 27 08:41:00 <iurgi> hmmm
May 27 08:41:04 <iurgi> martin's blog probably...
May 27 08:42:07 <c_up> blogic, das rc2 gestern ist fehlgeschlagen, nach ca 60 min hab ich die kiste neu gestartet, danach ist die fonera in den safeboot gelaufen, hab sie wieder hergestellt, werde es heut nochmal evrsuchen
May 27 08:42:17 <Decodecoding> Facebook!!!
May 27 08:42:31 <c_up> ?
May 27 10:26:03 <zen2> hello
May 27 10:49:22 <Danicasti> it's possible to set webcam resolution to 320*160?
May 27 13:20:15 <mib_mgam3v> Hi to all!
May 27 13:20:53 <blogic> hi
May 27 13:20:57 <mib_mgam3v> when the new firmware for fonera2.0 will be released?
May 27 13:22:07 <mib_mgam3v> thank you or the answer! :)
May 27 13:22:19 <mib_mgam3v> *for
May 27 13:23:20 <blogic> really soon
May 27 13:23:24 <blogic> we are testing a rc internally
May 27 13:24:34 <tonybo1> hope the torrent part will be well improved in this version...
May 27 13:25:35 <blogic> t will be
May 27 13:25:36 <blogic> well, it already is
May 27 13:25:41 <blogic> as i said, we are testing
May 27 13:25:55 <Decodecoding> (y)
May 27 13:26:24 <blogic> i dont know if seeding will be supported by then
May 27 13:26:34 <blogic> also. we have a problem
May 27 13:26:34 <blogic> torerent
May 27 13:26:36 <blogic>  dont work on ntfs
May 27 13:26:43 <blogic> but apart from that i am rather happy
May 27 13:27:31 <Decodecoding> I don't thin that is so important as long as fat 32 works....
May 27 13:28:05 <blogic> indeed
May 27 13:28:09 <blogic> but we need to inform users of this
May 27 13:28:13 <Decodecoding> yes
May 27 13:28:14 <blogic> that involves a bit of work
May 27 13:28:26 <blogic> i want more than a "wont work on ntfs" text
May 27 13:28:34 <blogic> i have to think something up tomorrow
May 27 13:29:01 <Decodecoding> Why not a Skull with NTFS written below? :-d
May 27 13:29:20 <burton-ng> blogic a really nice new
May 27 13:29:20 <burton-ng> does it include webcam wan access finally?
May 27 13:29:20 <burton-ng> you mean webcam?? it is not working from wan... access denied when outside network
May 27 13:29:20 <burton-ng> absolutelly
May 27 13:32:41 <burton-ng> i get this when trying to acces my webcam from internet http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2870/imagen12que.png
May 27 13:34:08 <burton-ng> do i have to do something ir order to get access to it? may forward a port frm f2 gui?
May 27 13:35:26 <Decodecoding> Burton, I think hat is a pluggin error and not a firewall issue. We'll have to wait it gets solved.
May 27 13:37:02 <burton-ng> any idea?
May 27 13:47:18 <c_up> cya later!
May 27 14:57:33 <Barbon> hi guys
May 27 14:57:35 <Barbon> some news?
May 27 14:57:51 <iurgi> is there anything new in blog.fonosfera.orG?
May 27 14:58:21 <Decodecoding> Yeah, today there's a good football match :-d
May 27 14:59:13 <Barbon> An update on the FonHome project
May 27 14:59:26 <Barbon> isn't a new, is an update xD
May 27 14:59:45 <Barbon> my fonera 2 is sleeping
May 27 14:59:55 <Barbon> im using fonera 1 for now
May 27 15:00:03 <Barbon> because i have too much problems
May 27 15:00:55 <Barbon> torrent continue to crash
May 27 15:01:01 <Barbon> and wireless reset
May 27 15:26:53 <Kyros> hi all
May 27 15:29:36 <Kyros> @ blogic, @ iugi: when a wifi client is using UDP Ports: 161, 427 or TCP Ports: 9220, 9500, 9290 is it possible that La Fonera2.0 blocks them or redirect them to other ports?
May 27 15:34:02 <iurgi> permanently?
May 27 15:34:10 <iurgi> why would you need to do that?
May 27 15:34:15 <iurgi> hi
May 27 15:34:16 <iurgi> :)
May 27 15:34:30 <flok420> does anyone know what ports to the internet are required to be open for the fon router?
May 27 15:34:41 <flok420> outbound so to say
May 27 15:37:23 <iurgi> outbound?
May 27 15:37:28 <zen2> flok420: what do you mean? from the outside? or to the outside?
May 27 15:37:31 <iurgi> why do you have any outbound ports blocked?
May 27 15:38:56 <zen2> does anyone know how to force the fon to check hosts.conf everytime a dns request is made?
May 27 15:39:06 <euskokali> wenas!!
May 27 15:39:19 <zen2> I mean... check /etc/hosts
May 27 15:39:55 <zen2> I have created a /etc/host.conf with "order hosts,bind" , but I still can't get my local dns names resolved...
May 27 15:40:35 <Kyros> reason: my officejet can scan directly into a directory on the laptop when I connect him via LAN-cable. But via Wifi using La Fonera it isn't  possible anymore. UDP Ports: 161, 427 or TCP Ports: 9220, 9500, 9290 are the ports the officejet uses.
May 27 15:41:38 <flok420> zen2: to the outside
May 27 15:41:40 <Kyros> although all clients (laptop and officejet) are listed in the dhcp leases list of La Fonera.
May 27 15:42:08 <flok420> iurgi for security reasons. i don't want my isp to disconnect me because some fon-user has a trojan/virus on his laptop
May 27 15:43:05 <iurgi> flok420: your isp disconnects you for having a torjan?
May 27 15:43:12 <iurgi> didn't know that was even legal in any country
May 27 15:44:07 <iurgi> Kyros: so you are not asking if it is possible tha tthe fonera blocks them but whether the fonera might be blocking them
May 27 15:44:10 <iurgi> sorry, got it wrong
May 27 15:44:28 <Darick> hi all
May 27 15:44:29 <iurgi> hmmm there's no specific rule to block eany of these ports
May 27 15:44:35 <flok420> iurgi yes they do. if you have a trojan/virus which might disrupt their services, they disconnect you until you fixed it
May 27 15:45:33 <Kyros> when my officejet asks via La Fonera if there is a \\my_laptop\released_dir there is no answer...
May 27 15:46:32 <iurgi> flok420: where?
May 27 15:46:53 <flok420> iurgi; the netherlands. isp is called xs4all.
May 27 15:47:00 <iurgi> lol
May 27 15:47:19 <Kyros> when I have my officejet connected directly to the officejet via LAN cable it works. When I put La Fonera WiFi in between it doesn't work anymore...
May 27 15:47:23 <iurgi> xs4all that know how to block ports on their routers
May 27 15:47:30 <Decodecoding> they care about their customers...
May 27 15:47:35 <iurgi> Kyros: that's not a mattter of blocking
May 27 15:47:39 <iurgi> that's a matter of networking
May 27 15:47:48 <iurgi> you will probably not be able to fix that, sorry
May 27 15:47:57 <iurgi> Decodecoding: yeah, lol
May 27 15:48:09 <iurgi> as if they couldn't block trojan traffic coming from these users...
May 27 15:48:49 <Kyros> iurgi: you will probably not be able to fix that, sorry.  Why? What is the reason?
May 27 15:48:59 <flok420> iurgi so i block 137-139 and a few others
May 27 15:49:28 <Kyros> La Fonera is blocking 137-139 ???
May 27 15:49:29 <flok420> iurgi but i don't know if fon requires any ports between 1 and 1024 (apart from 80, 123 and 443)  to be open
May 27 15:49:34 <flok420> Kyros: no, i am
May 27 15:51:27 <Kyros> how is your blocking of those ports affecting my problem?
May 27 15:51:48 <flok420> Kyros: i'm not discussing your problem?
May 27 15:51:56 <Kyros> ok
May 27 15:53:42 <iurgi> flok420: well, it needs basic stuff
May 27 15:54:02 <Kyros> iurgi: You wrote: that's not a mattter of blocking. that's a matter of networking. you will probably not be able to fix that, sorry ---> Why? What is the reason?
May 27 15:54:04 <iurgi> 53, 80 and 1812/1813 for radius
May 27 15:56:43 <flok420> hmmm i have those open as well. odd. the thing is that my fon router is now in a rebootloop for a few days. i removed the whole outbound and inbound firewall but that doesn't help. also tried rebooting the fon a few times to no avail
May 27 16:01:42 <iurgi> how often does it reboot?
May 27 16:02:23 <flok420> iurgi constantly. interval of 15 minutes or so
May 27 16:02:30 <iurgi> flok420: wierd
May 27 16:02:40 <iurgi> you just plug it and it reboots every once in a while?
May 27 16:02:44 <iurgi> no other activity?
May 27 16:02:44 <flok420> iurgi friend of mine has the same problem
May 27 16:02:50 <flok420> iurgi yes, just that
May 27 16:03:02 <flok420> iurgi wifi comes up for a minute or so and then bang, a reboot
May 27 16:03:14 <iurgi> reboot?
May 27 16:03:15 <flok420> iurgi also tried an other fon router, same problem
May 27 16:03:18 <iurgi> how do you know that?
May 27 16:03:27 <iurgi> both signals disapear?
May 27 16:03:30 <iurgi> LAN stops working?
May 27 16:03:39 <iurgi> or only the public disappears?
May 27 16:03:51 <flok420> iurgi yest both disappear. i followed its network traffic (wan-side) with tcpdump
May 27 16:04:26 <flok420> and when it comes up it typically emits +/- 6 arp-requests for the address 0.0.0.0, and every 15 minutes lights go off (power stays on) and those arp-requests appear
May 27 16:05:20 <iurgi> Kyros: hmmm
May 27 16:05:31 <iurgi> some protocols are not cross network
May 27 16:05:52 <iurgi> they're designed at LAN level meaning, they work on a lan
May 27 16:06:00 <iurgi> but not necessarily able to cross different lans
May 27 16:06:10 <iurgi> I don't nknow much about your env, didn't have time to think of it
May 27 16:06:15 <iurgi> but I think this might be the cause
May 27 16:09:58 * kazwo drops a eye
May 27 16:17:24 <iurgi> flok420: wtf
May 27 16:17:54 <iurgi> these arp requests sound like dhcp requests
May 27 16:21:20 <iurgi> flok420: only happens in your network?
May 27 16:21:28 <iurgi> (are we talking of a F2.0?)
May 27 16:21:31 <flok420> iurgi no those dhcp request are much later
May 27 16:21:48 <iurgi> hmmm
May 27 16:21:55 <flok420> iurgi let me see if i can login to friends network to check it as well
May 27 16:21:57 <iurgi> maybe they're generated by redboot then
May 27 16:22:02 <iurgi> flok420: ok
May 27 16:22:32 <flok420> iurgi don't think if it is a 2.0, it is the first one after the linksys
May 27 16:24:32 <iurgi> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
May 27 16:24:38 <iurgi> ok ok ok ok
May 27 16:24:45 <iurgi> I was thinking of fonera 2.0
May 27 16:24:46 <iurgi> sorry
May 27 16:24:47 <iurgi> hmmm
May 27 16:24:55 <iurgi> well, dunnno if this changes anything
May 27 16:24:56 <iurgi> lo.
May 27 16:24:57 <iurgi> lol
May 27 16:25:03 <iurgi> but I have to think different
May 27 16:48:38 <Kyros> iurgi: Isn't it very easy to say: It's a strange protocol and device so this is causing the problem...?
May 27 16:50:04 <iurgi> Kyros: that is not a proper answer
May 27 16:50:09 <iurgi> and second, it's incorrect
May 27 16:50:22 <iurgi> I don't think it's a strange protocol neither a strange device
May 27 16:50:29 <iurgi> but I can lie for you :P
May 27 16:50:50 <iurgi> as I said, I didn't have much time to think on it
May 27 16:51:08 <iurgi> but I don't think a printer/scanner uses any strange protocol
May 27 16:52:21 <Kyros> In the meantime I managed to scan via WiFi to the usb-stick attached to the Fonera2.0 - so the officejet's wireless communication works well and the protocoll works.
May 27 16:52:43 <iurgi> of course it does
May 27 16:52:43 <iurgi> XD
May 27 16:52:55 <Kyros> The officejet still cannot find the laptops with their released directories in the web.
May 27 16:53:25 <iurgi> are the laptops and the scanner connected to the same LAN?
May 27 16:54:10 <Kyros> Yes - it's all La Foneras private network via WiFi.
May 27 16:54:59 <iurgi> so,, all devices connected to the same LAN and it doesn't work?
May 27 16:55:30 <Kyros> All devices are listed properly in la Fonera's DHCP Leases. I defined static leases for them in the network.
May 27 16:55:39 <Kyros> Correct.
May 27 16:56:21 <iurgi> hmmm
May 27 16:56:40 <iurgi> then what I told you before about the protocols that don't cross networks does not apply here
May 27 16:56:55 <Kyros> Windows definition of computername, drectory, username and passwort is correct as well - it worky via direct LAN-Cable between officejet and laptop
May 27 16:58:00 <Kyros> No - it seems that somehow the searching (over what ports ever) made by the officejet toward the La Fonera to find the laptops diesn't work.
May 27 16:58:30 <iurgi> hmmm
May 27 16:58:45 <iurgi> I guess the scanner just uses samba as a client
May 27 16:58:53 <iurgi> to store the images in these folders
May 27 16:59:04 <iurgi> the only possibi,ity I see
May 27 16:59:22 <iurgi> is that the fonera advertises itself as the domain master and maybe that's creating a conflict
May 27 16:59:25 <iurgi> dunno
May 27 16:59:43 <iurgi> can you try to connect to the shared folder of one of the laptops from the other PC?
May 27 17:00:00 <Kyros> yes
May 27 17:00:59 <iurgi> "yes, I can try" or "yes it works"?
May 27 17:01:00 <iurgi> :)
May 27 17:01:13 <Kyros> yes - it works
May 27 17:01:23 <iurgi> ok
May 27 17:01:37 <iurgi> so, if it works from laptop to laptop, conencted to the fonera
May 27 17:01:47 <iurgi> but not from scanner to laptop, connected to the fonera
May 27 17:01:53 <iurgi> it's unlikely the fonera's problem
May 27 17:03:19 <Kyros> yes, copying files from one laptop the the released dir. of the other works
May 27 17:03:52 <iurgi> well, then I can't say much
May 27 17:03:57 <iurgi> it still might be a problem on the fonera
May 27 17:03:59 <iurgi> but it's unlikely
May 27 17:05:05 <Kyros> how can I check that I can reach the the released dir. on a laptop from the fonera (not using a windows OS)?
May 27 17:05:40 <Kyros> can I make a wget to the the released dir. with giving username/password for accessß
May 27 17:05:43 <Kyros> ?
May 27 17:06:22 <iurgi> nope :(
May 27 17:06:34 <iurgi> the fonera doesn't have a samba client
May 27 17:08:14 <Kyros> can I make any SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) ssettingsß
May 27 17:08:18 <Kyros> ?
May 27 17:10:31 <iurgi> snmp?
May 27 17:10:44 <iurgi> the ofnera has no snmp server or client
May 27 17:12:39 <zen2> is there a simple way to send an email from openwrt's command line? (using an external (secure) server like smtp.gmail.com)
May 27 17:14:24 <iurgi> zen2: you need a mail client :P
May 27 17:14:34 <zen2> nevermind.. just found the solution...
May 27 17:14:38 <c_up> how long does flashing over CLI take?
May 27 17:15:56 <iurgi> same as web ui or redboot
May 27 17:15:58 <iurgi> 28min
May 27 17:20:17 <c_up> got the answer, rebooted few seconds ago ;)
May 27 17:29:21 <c_up> now running rc2... testing...
May 27 17:55:18 <c_up> my Microsoft USB WebCam is not on the supported list, is there still a way to get it working?
May 27 18:07:09 <Kyros> hi iurgi - i tried to temporary switch off the windows firewall and it worked! so the La Fonera is OK. So it's clear where to continue. I now have to concentrate on this settings. Thanx for your help in the afternoon.
May 27 18:11:48 <burton-ng> hi
May 27 18:13:03 <c_up> hi
May 27 18:13:23 <burton-ng> hi
May 27 19:10:59 <c_up> blogic bist du da0
May 27 19:12:34 <c_up> mit der RC2 kann ich nun mit ca. 200 - 250kb/s laden, dabei liegt die CPU Auslastung bei ca 80 - 89% für die appliaction, liegt es evtl. daran?
May 27 19:21:22 <c_up> is it possible to get a microsoft quickcam vx 1000 running on fonera?
May 27 19:43:44 <MrZeroo00> Hello
May 27 19:43:59 <MrZeroo00> Is Fonera 2 available in sotcks?
May 27 19:44:17 <c_up> ?
May 27 19:44:31 <MrZeroo00> stocks*
May 27 19:45:33 <MrZeroo00> Je veux dire: est ce que la Fonera 2 est de nouveau disponible en stock
May 27 19:45:58 <MrZeroo00> I mean is that the Fonera 2 is back in stock
May 27 21:44:24 <burton-ng> hello
May 28 01:20:49 <DroopX> Hi...
May 28 01:24:07 <DroopX> howto install the plugin of jamendo in fonera 2.0???  help please...
May 28 01:32:11 <DroopX> upssssss
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