**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 08 02:59:57 2009
Jun 08 05:23:58 <c_up> moin moin!
Jun 08 06:33:54 <Danicasti> Hi! Buongiorno!
Jun 08 06:39:02 <c_up> moin
Jun 08 07:20:15 <iurgi> hi
Jun 08 07:22:30 <c_up> hi
Jun 08 09:39:30 <Decodecoding> good morning!
Jun 08 09:45:45 <iurgi> hi
Jun 08 10:14:24 <evo-trader> Hello
Jun 08 10:14:37 <iurgi> hi
Jun 08 10:15:16 <evo-trader> Anyone knows how to put off the firewall of fonera 2.0 by ssh?
Jun 08 10:15:43 <iurgi> what do you want to turn off?
Jun 08 10:16:00 <evo-trader> I asked to the fon team and told me to ask here
Jun 08 10:16:14 <evo-trader> I want to desactivate the firewall
Jun 08 10:16:31 <evo-trader> completly
Jun 08 10:16:38 <iurgi> what for, if I may ask?
Jun 08 10:17:43 <evo-trader> because I´m using it for connet to a router in wifi mode, and is giving me problems to open ports and access by windowsgui
Jun 08 10:18:34 <iurgi> I see
Jun 08 10:18:43 <iurgi> well I don't have mine right here
Jun 08 10:18:58 <iurgi> but if I don't remember wrong, /etc/init.d/firewall stop
Jun 08 10:19:01 <iurgi> does the thing
Jun 08 10:19:14 <iurgi> but I'm not sure if that will work for you...
Jun 08 10:19:18 <iurgi> give it a try
Jun 08 10:19:29 <iurgi> need to leave
Jun 08 10:19:29 <iurgi> bbl
Jun 08 10:19:40 <evo-trader> i try
Jun 08 10:42:58 <c_up> back again
Jun 08 11:00:58 <PT_big> Hello I wanted to know if there is any problem with the server you fon.com
Jun 08 11:01:09 <iurgi> PT_big: hmmm
Jun 08 11:01:13 <iurgi> that's the second report
Jun 08 11:01:15 <iurgi> let me check
Jun 08 11:01:23 <iurgi> PT_big: where are you based?
Jun 08 11:01:24 <iurgi> germany?
Jun 08 11:01:33 <PT_big> Portuguese
Jun 08 11:01:42 <iurgi> ok
Jun 08 11:02:25 <iurgi> checkin
Jun 08 11:02:26 <iurgi> gthanks
Jun 08 11:02:42 <iurgi> PT_big: confirmed, problem in the datacenter
Jun 08 11:02:43 <iurgi> :o
Jun 08 11:03:14 <PT_big> my fonera power led orange and public lan name is atho
Jun 08 11:03:18 <iurgi> PT_big: can you try again?
Jun 08 11:03:19 <PT_big> :(
Jun 08 11:03:41 <PT_big> yes now is ok
Jun 08 11:03:46 <PT_big> :D
Jun 08 11:03:49 <iurgi> good!
Jun 08 11:03:50 <iurgi> thanks
Jun 08 11:04:12 <PT_big> thanks so much sorry my bad eng.
Jun 08 11:04:25 <iurgi> it's good enough
Jun 08 11:04:26 <iurgi> :=
Jun 08 11:04:28 <iurgi> :)
Jun 08 11:04:29 <iurgi> thanks
Jun 08 11:11:33 <spooon> i'm in france, and i can't go in the french forumof fon
Jun 08 11:12:33 <spooon> ah sorry, it's work
Jun 08 11:12:42 <spooon> F5 :)
Jun 08 11:13:26 <iurgi> ok
Jun 08 11:13:27 <iurgi> :)
Jun 08 11:22:49 <PT_big> Hi, someone I can recommend a program that uses UTF-8 in win vista?
Jun 08 11:27:56 <xMff> notepad++ maybe
Jun 08 11:28:10 <PT_big> ok tnk
Jun 08 11:28:12 <PT_big> I can recommend someone to start a linux user I have always been windows
Jun 08 11:28:12 <xMff> you mean an editor?
Jun 08 11:28:35 <PT_big> yae
Jun 08 11:28:45 <PT_big> *yes lol
Jun 08 11:28:57 <xMff> even notepad.exe should support utf-8 now :)
Jun 08 11:29:14 <PT_big> ok tnk
Jun 08 11:29:16 <xMff> at least you can choose it when saving
Jun 08 11:31:17 <PT_big> ok I already found.
Jun 08 13:19:38 <Decodecoding> Hi. Has anybody heard something about the Jamendo plugin the Jamendo people was developing?
Jun 08 13:19:56 <Decodecoding> I haven't heard anything lately...
Jun 08 13:22:10 <c_up> what is it?
Jun 08 13:27:19 <evotrader> hello
Jun 08 13:28:06 <Decodecoding> I mean this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58z42iBnmrc
Jun 08 14:49:26 <iurgi> Decodecoding: no clue...
Jun 08 14:49:35 <iurgi> they disapeared
Jun 08 14:49:38 <iurgi> dunno what happened
Jun 08 14:50:24 <Decodecoding> Maybe I'll mail Sylvain Zimmer... maybe he'll answer and not put my mail into the trash can folder...
Jun 08 14:57:35 <iurgi> heh
Jun 08 14:57:53 <euskokali> wenas!!!
Jun 08 14:58:16 <euskokali> Tengo problems con el acceso a youtube
Jun 08 14:58:26 <euskokali> me dice error de password
Jun 08 14:59:42 <iurgi> pues estara mal
Jun 08 14:59:42 <iurgi> :D
Jun 08 15:00:55 <euskokali> jejeje
Jun 08 15:00:59 <euskokali> eso seguro
Jun 08 15:01:58 <euskokali> la cambio pero naa, lo mismo
Jun 08 15:03:45 <iurgi> joe
Jun 08 15:03:48 <iurgi> no se que decirte
Jun 08 15:05:11 <euskokali> y para acceder mucho curro??
Jun 08 15:05:34 <iurgi> a tope
Jun 08 15:05:35 <iurgi> :o
Jun 08 15:05:37 <euskokali> ya lo mirare me he dado cuanta cuando he ido a subir unos videos de PS3 en E3
Jun 08 15:05:44 <euskokali> eso es bueno!!!
Jun 08 15:05:55 <iurgi> si
Jun 08 15:05:55 <iurgi> jaja
Jun 08 15:27:24 <evo-trader> Hello
Jun 08 15:27:48 <iurgi> hi
Jun 08 15:28:19 <evo-trader> iurgi, i tried that you told me to get off the firewall of the fonera 2.0
Jun 08 15:28:46 <evo-trader> and it restart the fon and remove myplace
Jun 08 15:28:59 <iurgi> ?
Jun 08 15:29:05 <iurgi> /etc/init.d/firewall stop
Jun 08 15:29:09 <iurgi> restarted the fonera?
Jun 08 15:29:19 <iurgi> no way :P
Jun 08 15:29:23 <evo-trader> yes,
Jun 08 15:29:25 <evo-trader> hahah
Jun 08 15:29:29 <iurgi> hahaha
Jun 08 15:29:33 <evo-trader> i don´t know why
Jun 08 15:29:33 <iurgi> nah, that's impossible
Jun 08 15:29:40 <iurgi> actually I am now in front of my fonera
Jun 08 15:29:46 <iurgi> just did it and it didn't reboot XD
Jun 08 15:29:58 <iurgi> and the iptables chains are empty
Jun 08 15:29:59 <evo-trader> i tried to edit the file and tell me "no q eneble" or something like this
Jun 08 15:30:50 <evo-trader> how can i disable the firewall for ever?
Jun 08 15:31:06 <Darick> hi all!
Jun 08 15:31:10 <evo-trader> even if I restart
Jun 08 15:31:13 <iurgi> evo-trader: no idea
Jun 08 15:31:21 <iurgi> but disabling it forever is not a good idea
Jun 08 15:31:23 <evo-trader> :(
Jun 08 15:32:10 <evo-trader> I bought the fon for use with a satelite deco and don´t work (i think for the firewall) and is not a good idea?
Jun 08 15:32:59 <iurgi> evo-trader: you are using a fonera 2.0?
Jun 08 15:33:07 <evo-trader> yes
Jun 08 15:33:18 <iurgi> and you bought it for what?
Jun 08 15:33:42 <evo-trader> for connect a satelite decodificator
Jun 08 15:33:56 <evo-trader> by wireless
Jun 08 15:34:01 <iurgi> :o
Jun 08 15:34:08 <iurgi> no clue what that is... I mean
Jun 08 15:34:20 <iurgi> what is the point of connecting a satellite decoder to the fonera
Jun 08 15:34:37 <evo-trader> and the deco get internet but don´t recive the 21000port that i need
Jun 08 15:34:37 <iurgi> but I don't think the big problem is the firewall, although it might be...
Jun 08 15:34:39 <iurgi> can't tell
Jun 08 15:34:45 <iurgi> ahhh
Jun 08 15:34:51 <iurgi> the deco is a network device
Jun 08 15:35:01 <iurgi> it will connect to the internet through the fonera?
Jun 08 15:35:03 <evo-trader> yes, and is linux
Jun 08 15:35:20 <evo-trader> yes it connect but don´t recive 21000port
Jun 08 15:35:22 <iurgi> evo-trader: ok
Jun 08 15:35:31 <iurgi> well, that's something you can do for sure
Jun 08 15:35:32 <iurgi> but
Jun 08 15:35:50 <evo-trader> if is not the firewall? what can be?
Jun 08 15:35:53 <iurgi> you need to 1) 'open' the port in your ADSL/cable router, 2) open it in the fonera
Jun 08 15:36:03 <evo-trader> yes is done
Jun 08 15:36:05 <iurgi> it might  be the rfirewall, but probably a misocnfiguration problem
Jun 08 15:36:09 <iurgi> you don't need to remove it
Jun 08 15:36:38 <iurgi> what did you exactly do?
Jun 08 15:36:38 <evo-trader> i want to be sure the problem is not the firewall
Jun 08 15:36:44 <iurgi> well
Jun 08 15:36:50 <iurgi> removing the firewall won't help at all
Jun 08 15:36:51 <evo-trader> and thoght is the best way to remove it
Jun 08 15:36:57 <iurgi> you NEED the firewall to 'open' the port
Jun 08 15:37:03 <iurgi> to actually FORWARD it
Jun 08 15:37:09 <iurgi> and this is done by iptables
Jun 08 15:37:09 <evo-trader> ???
Jun 08 15:37:14 <iurgi> which is at the same time the firewall
Jun 08 15:37:22 <iurgi> so, better not delete the firewall XD
Jun 08 15:37:38 <evo-trader> and how can be sure the 21000port is open?
Jun 08 15:38:02 <evo-trader> because the deco only need, internet conexion and 21000port open
Jun 08 15:38:36 <iurgi> well
Jun 08 15:38:50 <iurgi> did you ever made the deco work when connected to your ADSL router?
Jun 08 15:39:22 <evo-trader> yes, i give conection trough my laptop and works
Jun 08 15:39:44 <iurgi> through your laptop??
Jun 08 15:39:58 <iurgi> ok, how do you connect the fonera to the internet?
Jun 08 15:40:09 <evo-trader> yes by ethernet in brich mode
Jun 08 15:40:26 <evo-trader> at first in wifi mode
Jun 08 15:40:38 <iurgi> bridge mode?
Jun 08 15:40:57 <iurgi> how?
Jun 08 15:41:03 <iurgi> I don't understand, sorry
Jun 08 15:41:09 <evo-trader> but after i tried a few configuration , and when i put the fon between the deco and internet i break
Jun 08 15:41:31 <evo-trader> bridge the wireless and ethernet port
Jun 08 15:41:34 <iurgi> can you connect to the internet with a PC connected to the fonera?
Jun 08 15:41:47 <evo-trader> i recive wifi and give ethernet
Jun 08 15:41:52 <iurgi> evo-trader: bridge wireless and ethernet in the fonera?
Jun 08 15:41:56 <iurgi> wow
Jun 08 15:41:57 <iurgi> so
Jun 08 15:42:22 <iurgi> ADSL-WiFi -))) (((-fonera2.0-ether-DECO
Jun 08 15:42:27 <iurgi> is that your setup?
Jun 08 15:42:48 <evo-trader> no, is more complicate than this :)
Jun 08 15:43:00 <evo-trader> can i send pictures here?
Jun 08 15:43:01 <iurgi> oh well
Jun 08 15:43:05 <iurgi> then you're trying to do magin...
Jun 08 15:43:09 <iurgi> hmmm
Jun 08 15:43:14 <iurgi> no but you can use imageshack
Jun 08 15:43:17 <evo-trader> not really
Jun 08 15:43:18 <iurgi> or something like that
Jun 08 15:43:35 <evo-trader> i can make it easy but still don´t work
Jun 08 15:43:47 <evo-trader> everything work fine less the fon
Jun 08 15:43:50 <iurgi> well, you need to go step by step
Jun 08 15:44:04 <iurgi> did you ever get the fonera properly connected to the internet?
Jun 08 15:44:14 <iurgi> I mean, did you ever connect to the internet THROUGH the fonera?
Jun 08 15:44:29 <evo-trader> is as simple as, i connect to a router linksys, the fon connect to the linksys as well
Jun 08 15:44:49 <evo-trader> bough have internet fine
Jun 08 15:44:55 <evo-trader> but.....
Jun 08 15:45:22 <evo-trader> i can´t see fonera online, I can´t get \\foner
Jun 08 15:45:41 <evo-trader> how do you explain this?
Jun 08 15:46:10 <evo-trader> i try getting directly by IP 192.168.10.1
Jun 08 15:46:44 <evo-trader> but nothing, fon don´t let me go in, firewall is webgui enable
Jun 08 15:46:48 <iurgi> the linksys has IP 192.168.10.1?
Jun 08 15:46:57 <evo-trader> no, 192.168.2.1
Jun 08 15:47:10 <iurgi> and you connect with your PC to the fonera
Jun 08 15:47:14 <iurgi> and you don't get an IP?ç
Jun 08 15:47:21 <evo-trader> no, pc to linksys
Jun 08 15:47:27 <iurgi> ?
Jun 08 15:47:30 <iurgi> I don't understand
Jun 08 15:47:31 <evo-trader> fon to linksys
Jun 08 15:47:35 <iurgi> why do you mention 192.168.10.1 then?
Jun 08 15:47:44 <evo-trader> is the ip of the fon
Jun 08 15:47:46 <iurgi> 192.168.10.1 is the LAN of the fonera
Jun 08 15:47:49 <iurgi> but only on the LANB
Jun 08 15:47:50 <iurgi> LAN
Jun 08 15:48:05 <iurgi> if the fonera is connected to the linksys, the WAN IP is 192.168.2.x
Jun 08 15:48:07 <evo-trader> and by wireless
Jun 08 15:48:18 <iurgi> you can't reach the fonera from that port on 192.168.10.1!!!
Jun 08 15:48:31 <iurgi> by wireless you connect to MyPlace?
Jun 08 15:48:44 <evo-trader> when is in wifi mode no
Jun 08 15:49:10 <iurgi> please, don't mix modes
Jun 08 15:49:11 <iurgi> :)ç
Jun 08 15:49:14 <iurgi> let's focus
Jun 08 15:49:29 <iurgi> fonera connected to linksys
Jun 08 15:49:35 <iurgi> pc connected to linksys
Jun 08 15:49:39 <iurgi> this is scenario A
Jun 08 15:49:40 <evo-trader> you make me dude, i´ll connect right now as i told you to check
Jun 08 15:49:45 <evo-trader> yes
Jun 08 15:49:51 <iurgi> what is not working in this scenario?
Jun 08 15:49:56 <iurgi> how do you know it's not working?
Jun 08 15:49:59 <evo-trader> not now
Jun 08 15:50:14 <iurgi> evo-trader: where are you from?
Jun 08 15:50:17 <evo-trader> i have been 2 days making trys :(
Jun 08 15:50:22 <evo-trader> spain
Jun 08 15:50:40 <iurgi> evo-trader: ok, hablamos en espanyol
Jun 08 15:50:43 <iurgi> a ver si nos aclaramos
Jun 08 15:50:46 <iurgi> porque esto es un cacao
Jun 08 15:51:08 <evo-trader> weee
Jun 08 15:51:16 <iurgi> puedes darme una idea de tu nivel de conocimientos? asi te puedo ayudar as facil
Jun 08 15:51:31 <iurgi> mas facil
Jun 08 15:51:33 <evo-trader> si me das un seg te conecto como modelo A y probamos on-line
Jun 08 15:51:41 <iurgi> ok
Jun 08 15:51:44 <iurgi> o probelm
Jun 08 15:51:50 <iurgi> vamos a un chat privado para no molestar
Jun 08 15:51:57 <evo-trader> ok
Jun 08 16:07:02 <kazwo> dich kenn ich!
Jun 08 16:08:57 <Darick> i love you too
Jun 08 16:16:26 <kazwo> ah! gimme all your money :D
Jun 08 16:17:43 <Darick> with no sex?
Jun 08 16:18:06 <kazwo> not yet
Jun 08 16:18:26 <Darick> first i have to pay??
Jun 08 16:18:47 <kazwo> yep
Jun 08 16:19:06 <xMff> how rude
Jun 08 16:19:09 <Darick> well, i'll go to another corner
Jun 08 16:20:16 <kazwo> see you soon
Jun 08 19:45:08 <marxiano> nas
Jun 08 19:45:18 <iurgi> hola
Jun 08 19:54:30 <TeigneuX> Got no ssh after update, is it normal ?
Jun 08 19:55:17 <iurgi> TeigneuX: is it enduser or developer?
Jun 08 19:55:23 <iurgi> btw, long time no see :p
Jun 08 19:55:54 <TeigneuX> lol
Jun 08 19:55:57 <TeigneuX> hi
Jun 08 19:56:04 <TeigneuX> 2.2.6 RC2
Jun 08 19:56:10 <TeigneuX> so I think it's dev
Jun 08 19:56:20 <iurgi> orange or green interface?
Jun 08 19:56:21 <TeigneuX> btw, good job for the dl manager ! :p
Jun 08 19:56:29 <TeigneuX> green
Jun 08 19:56:32 <iurgi> TeigneuX: thanks, it was cyrus blogic and javiermon
Jun 08 19:56:33 <iurgi> :)
Jun 08 19:56:37 <iurgi> green?
Jun 08 19:56:41 <iurgi> ok, then it's developer
Jun 08 19:56:50 <iurgi> did you reboot after setting dev mode?
Jun 08 19:56:51 <TeigneuX> On the oldversion ther was SSH on fservices on the web
Jun 08 19:57:04 <TeigneuX> but I can see it
Jun 08 19:57:15 <TeigneuX> Yes I reboot via the webif...
Jun 08 19:57:35 <TeigneuX> How can I be sure I flash to the dev version wo ssh ?
Jun 08 19:57:41 <iurgi> TeigneuX: you need to set a strong password if you want ssh from wan
Jun 08 19:58:00 <iurgi> TeigneuX: green interface= developer, orange interface=enduser
Jun 08 19:58:07 <TeigneuX> ok
Jun 08 19:58:23 <TeigneuX> the border are orange...
Jun 08 19:59:02 <TeigneuX> but the buttons are on green background
Jun 08 19:59:07 <TeigneuX> wired
Jun 08 19:59:31 <TeigneuX> The version on the blog is the dev one ?
Jun 08 20:00:36 <iurgi> no
Jun 08 20:00:41 <TeigneuX> ARG
Jun 08 20:00:42 <TeigneuX> ok
Jun 08 20:00:45 <iurgi> green interface=developer
Jun 08 20:00:50 <TeigneuX> so where is the dev image ?
Jun 08 20:00:51 <iurgi> orange interface=enduser
Jun 08 20:00:57 <TeigneuX> ok understood
Jun 08 20:01:04 <iurgi> TeigneuX: on the applications menu in the fonera...
Jun 08 20:01:09 <iurgi> long time not reading the blog, huh?
Jun 08 20:01:13 <TeigneuX> lol
Jun 08 20:01:20 <TeigneuX> Back from holidays
Jun 08 20:01:33 <iurgi> haha
Jun 08 20:01:49 <TeigneuX> ok cool
Jun 08 20:01:55 <TeigneuX> Greeen !!!!
Jun 08 20:02:15 <TeigneuX> Thanks for your help
Jun 08 20:02:33 <TeigneuX> after update to dev
Jun 08 20:02:38 <TeigneuX> reboot
Jun 08 20:02:38 <iurgi> but you need to reboot twice
Jun 08 20:02:42 <TeigneuX> ok
Jun 08 20:02:43 <iurgi> full powercycle
Jun 08 20:02:47 <TeigneuX> I've read that !
Jun 08 20:02:50 <TeigneuX> ;-p
Jun 08 20:02:51 <iurgi> ok
Jun 08 20:02:52 <iurgi> :)
Jun 08 20:03:16 <Decodecoding> iurgi, go home, it's too late for work :-d
Jun 08 20:03:23 <iurgi> yeah
Jun 08 20:03:27 <iurgi> I woke up at 5:30
Jun 08 20:03:31 <iurgi> to take the plane to madrid
Jun 08 20:03:34 <Decodecoding> comje on!
Jun 08 20:03:41 <iurgi> and a girl is waiting for me to pick her up from her work...
Jun 08 20:03:57 <Decodecoding> You're playing with fire
Jun 08 20:04:03 <iurgi> haha
Jun 08 20:04:13 <iurgi> well, if she was my girlfriend, I'd be dead
Jun 08 20:04:17 <iurgi> but she's not (any more)
Jun 08 20:04:18 <iurgi> haha
Jun 08 20:04:19 <iurgi> so no problem
Jun 08 20:04:22 <Decodecoding> hehe
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