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Jun 09 06:35:08 <Danicasti> Hi! Buongiorno!!
Jun 09 06:45:25 <c_up> hi
Jun 09 10:54:53 <TeigneuX> Hi all, Who is doing the repository of fonera.be ?
Jun 09 10:57:16 <TeigneuX> Or someone know a repository without md5sum mismatch ?
Jun 09 11:52:06 <Danicasti> kazwo!
Jun 09 13:14:11 <Karbowiak> hey guys, i just got a Fon2.0 in the door, and decided i want to install the Console RC2 version (http://download.fonosfera.org/RC/20090528_FON2202_2.2.6.0_rc2.image) - however, ive been looking pretty much EVERYWHERE to find out how to install it
Jun 09 13:14:17 <Karbowiak> any of you who can point me in the right direction ?=
Jun 09 13:14:29 <Karbowiak> iknow i have to get SSH enabled on it somehow, and Redboot probably also
Jun 09 13:15:16 <Decodecoding> http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Firmware_Update_Instructions
Jun 09 13:16:31 <Decodecoding> there you have some methods. Have fun!
Jun 09 13:16:36 <Karbowiak> thanks m8 :)
Jun 09 13:42:39 <Karbowiak> good grief, enabling SSH access takes forever
Jun 09 13:43:02 <Karbowiak> i got the dev mode enabled now, and 3 reboots later - and 15minutes, still no ssh access -_-
Jun 09 13:51:24 <Barbon> goodnight.
Jun 09 13:55:26 <Karbowiak> yay ssh works, now to make redboot work with telnet
Jun 09 14:12:03 <Barbon> news about plugin develoment?
Jun 09 14:13:40 <Karbowiak> any of you tried kicking DD-WRT onto your Fon2.0 ?
Jun 09 14:13:51 <Karbowiak> if yes, did it work properly?
Jun 09 14:31:59 <tsaitgaist> does someone knows the default login and password for the failsafe image ? I installed the "not broken" failsafe image through redboot (not working in ssh), and I am trying to use it. telnet nor ssh are activated, and the webinterface need credentials, but it's not admin,admin or root,root or root,admin. It this image also broken, or what is the password ?
Jun 09 14:35:39 <tsaitgaist> I installed the "not broken" failsafe image through redboot (not working in ssh), and I am trying to use it. telnet nor ssh are activated, and the webinterface need credentials, but it's not admin,admin or root,root or root,admin. It this image also broken, or what is the password ?
Jun 09 14:56:52 <iurgi> tsaitgaist: the password of the failsaife is the serial number
Jun 09 15:25:42 <Karbowiak> here is an interesting question
Jun 09 15:25:52 <Karbowiak> the 2.2.6.0 RC2, is it listed as 2.2.5.0 ?!
Jun 09 15:26:17 <iurgi> yes
Jun 09 15:26:24 <Karbowiak> ok that explains
Jun 09 15:26:24 <Karbowiak> lol
Jun 09 15:26:26 <iurgi> it is a release candidate, not a release
Jun 09 15:26:27 <iurgi> :)
Jun 09 15:26:33 <iurgi> cat /etc/fon_svn
Jun 09 15:26:42 <iurgi> you should get 8xx for rc2
Jun 09 15:26:43 <Karbowiak> would have thought it was listed as 2.2.6.0 RC2, lol
Jun 09 15:26:44 <Karbowiak> but yeah :)
Jun 09 15:27:21 <Karbowiak> any of you who also have problems with Fon2.0 being slow at USB HDD Transfers ?
Jun 09 15:27:58 <Karbowiak> gotta reboot it to make it update the SSH keys.. brb
Jun 09 15:29:31 <Barbon> iurgi any news about the bridge plugin deveploment?
Jun 09 15:34:09 <iurgi> Barbon: NO
Jun 09 15:34:10 <iurgi> :)
Jun 09 15:34:28 <iurgi> bridge will not happen inless than 4 months, I'm afraid
Jun 09 15:34:34 <iurgi> we are too busy .(
Jun 09 15:35:10 <drexler> hi all - ive downloaded a plugin, how do i install it on the fonera 2.0
Jun 09 15:35:34 <Barbon> it must be one of high-priority plugin i think :P
Jun 09 15:36:03 <drexler> Barbon: what do you mean
Jun 09 15:36:17 <Barbon> the bridge-plugin
Jun 09 15:36:51 <Karbowiak> iurgi, yea 869 :)
Jun 09 15:36:56 <Karbowiak> purfect
Jun 09 15:36:56 <Karbowiak> :D
Jun 09 15:37:15 <Karbowiak> oh i already love this router..
Jun 09 15:37:39 <iurgi> Karbowiak: :) thanks
Jun 09 15:37:53 <Decodecoding> Iurgi, is Pablo_BZ still working on the audio plugin?
Jun 09 15:42:41 <Karbowiak> only problem im having with it, is filetransfer via SAMBA is slow as shit
Jun 09 15:42:41 <Karbowiak> :\
Jun 09 15:42:48 <Karbowiak> which was the primary thing i was looking forward to
Jun 09 15:42:49 <Karbowiak> :(
Jun 09 16:17:08 <drexler> all: How do I install a plugin like the DynDNS
Jun 09 16:17:20 <drexler> its not in the Applicatons list on the fonera GUI
Jun 09 16:23:08 <Karbowiak> uh this is odd
Jun 09 16:23:20 <Karbowiak> the 2.0 dont like going above ~20Mbit
Jun 09 16:24:20 <iurgi> drexler: dyndns is in the fonera by default since 2.2.5.0
Jun 09 16:26:49 <drexler> ah, fantastic
Jun 09 16:27:04 <drexler> i assume that the only user-installable applications are in the applications menu of the GUI
Jun 09 16:27:15 <Karbowiak> wow, it REALLY doesnt like going above 2MB/s -_-
Jun 09 16:27:55 <iurgi> drexler: yes...
Jun 09 16:28:04 <iurgi> Karbowiak: few routers do
Jun 09 16:28:09 <Karbowiak> well
Jun 09 16:28:21 <Karbowiak> that doesnt really help much when im sitting on a 50Mbit connection
Jun 09 16:28:22 <Karbowiak> :\
Jun 09 16:28:40 <iurgi> well, few routers can NAT much faster than that...
Jun 09 16:28:49 <iurgi> well, some do, of course
Jun 09 16:29:03 <iurgi> unfortunatelly the F2.0 can't
Jun 09 16:29:10 <iurgi> NATting takes much CPU
Jun 09 16:29:31 <Karbowiak> well, here is the curious thing
Jun 09 16:29:41 <drexler> Is there Fonera 2 specific documentation for the dyndns application? I have no idea how to use it
Jun 09 16:29:41 <Karbowiak> the old Fonera, the 2100
Jun 09 16:29:49 <Karbowiak> it didnt want to either with standard Fonera software
Jun 09 16:29:58 <Karbowiak> but with DD-WRT it didnt matter
Jun 09 16:30:00 <Karbowiak> it just did it
Jun 09 16:30:13 * Karbowiak ponders
Jun 09 16:34:25 <iurgi> it just did what?
Jun 09 16:34:38 <Karbowiak> ran at full speed
Jun 09 16:34:40 <iurgi> drexler: well, check dyndns.org
Jun 09 16:34:42 <xMff1> usb eats cpu, ntfs eats cpu, natting eats cpu
Jun 09 16:35:01 <Karbowiak> well thats the funny thing, according to top on the router, the router uses 2% CPU ATM
Jun 09 16:35:03 <iurgi> exactly
Jun 09 16:35:08 <Karbowiak> but softirq is at about 95%
Jun 09 16:35:10 <Karbowiak> constantly
Jun 09 16:35:14 <xMff1> usb
Jun 09 16:35:17 <iurgi> usb
Jun 09 16:35:40 <Karbowiak> dont have a USB device in it
Jun 09 16:35:54 <iurgi> hmmm
Jun 09 16:35:57 <iurgi> lol
Jun 09 16:35:59 <Karbowiak> its from internet -> ethernet -> fon -> ethernet -> computer
Jun 09 16:36:01 <iurgi> then it's weird
Jun 09 16:36:41 <Karbowiak> very weird
Jun 09 16:37:19 <Karbowiak> wonder wtf its waiting on
Jun 09 16:41:16 <iurgi> yeah
Jun 09 16:41:24 <iurgi> Karbowiak: anything you find out, let us know
Jun 09 16:41:31 <Karbowiak> will do
Jun 09 16:41:31 <iurgi> so we can investigate/reproduce it
Jun 09 16:41:46 <Karbowiak> well, all ive done is flash it with the latest RC image
Jun 09 16:41:53 <Karbowiak> thats about it
Jun 09 16:42:08 <Karbowiak> then slapped it onto a 50Mbit connection (50Mbit down, 2Mbit up) and - voila
Jun 09 16:44:38 <Decodecoding> I'm going to love that twitter app
Jun 09 16:46:15 <Karbowiak> jeez, cant be that hard to get redboot working -_-
Jun 09 16:46:42 <Decodecoding> what's the problem?
Jun 09 16:47:12 <Karbowiak> i need redboot working so i can flash dd-wrt / openwrt onto the Fon2.0 - and hopefully get away from speed problem
Jun 09 16:47:23 <Karbowiak> to see if it really IS the Fon firmware that does it
Jun 09 16:47:37 <iurgi> what twitter app?
Jun 09 16:47:53 <iurgi> Karbowiak: you don't need redboot for that
Jun 09 16:48:02 <Karbowiak> to flash DD-WRT onto it ?
Jun 09 16:48:04 <iurgi> Karbowiak: btw, why do you want openwrt on the fonera?
Jun 09 16:48:08 <iurgi> it already has openwrt?
Jun 09 16:48:09 <iurgi> lol
Jun 09 16:48:10 <Decodecoding> FONwifiWe are working on an app for the Fonera to tweet itself so it tells you what itīs doing while you are away. We hope to pull it off.
Jun 09 16:48:17 <Karbowiak> well, openWRT without the Fonera interface then, lol
Jun 09 16:48:28 <iurgi> FONWifiWe? who's that?
Jun 09 16:48:40 <iurgi> Karbowiak: the fonera 2.0 has the latest openwrt in there
Jun 09 16:48:57 <iurgi> and I doubt dd.wrt has a better ethernet driver than openwrt
Jun 09 16:48:57 <Decodecoding> http://twitter.com/FONwifi
Jun 09 16:49:02 <iurgi> Decodecoding: lol
Jun 09 16:49:05 <iurgi> that's fon
Jun 09 16:49:23 <Decodecoding> I thought it was you or someone near you :-d
Jun 09 16:49:26 <iurgi> I wonder who said that...
Jun 09 16:49:34 <iurgi> dammit
Jun 09 16:49:40 <iurgi> always need to open the mouth before time
Jun 09 16:50:44 <Karbowiak> well, cant hurt to try and see if it changes the softirq problem - and gives back the speed.. but oh well
Jun 09 16:52:36 <iurgi> yeah, it's worth a try
Jun 09 16:52:41 <iurgi> but you don't need redboot for that
Jun 09 16:53:18 <Karbowiak> oh?
Jun 09 16:54:43 <Karbowiak> so, i could essentially just take the fonera-firmware.bin from dd-wrt.com, and flash it via SSH ?
Jun 09 16:55:01 <Karbowiak> or from openWRT i guess
Jun 09 16:55:55 <iurgi> well, no idea how t oinstall dd-wrt...
Jun 09 16:56:03 <iurgi> you should ask there, dunno what partitions it expects
Jun 09 16:56:12 <iurgi> but openwrt should be straightforwrd
Jun 09 16:56:23 <xMff1> dd-wrt needs it's nvram hack to be happy
Jun 09 16:56:31 <Karbowiak> well the only guides ive found sofar for openwrt requires redboot access to be able to flash it :\
Jun 09 16:57:03 <iurgi> Karbowiak: ?
Jun 09 16:57:11 <iurgi> what guides?
Jun 09 16:57:14 <Karbowiak> http://oldwiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs(2f)Hardware(2f)Fon(2f)Fonera2.html
Jun 09 16:57:16 <Karbowiak> for example
Jun 09 16:58:13 <iurgi> broken url
Jun 09 16:58:39 <Karbowiak> o.O
Jun 09 16:58:43 <Karbowiak> works here
Jun 09 17:09:17 <Decodecoding> time to leave....
Jun 09 17:11:18 <Decodecoding> performance of download manager is awesome
Jun 09 17:29:08 <Karbowiak> so, am i correct in my assumption that - the Fonera2.0 is "just" a 32MB Memory+USB Version of the 2201 ?
Jun 09 17:29:17 <Karbowiak> and thus, guides for the 2201 works on the 2202 ?
Jun 09 17:35:57 <iurgi> Karbowiak: no
Jun 09 17:36:05 <iurgi> regarding hw, yes
Jun 09 17:36:12 <iurgi> but the sw is totally different
Jun 09 17:36:16 <iurgi> you don't need to hack anythin
Jun 09 17:36:17 <iurgi> g
Jun 09 17:36:21 <iurgi> so no need for redboot
Jun 09 17:36:45 <Karbowiak> still doesnt help on the softirq issue
Jun 09 17:57:33 <Karbowiak> oh this is pissing me off
Jun 09 18:04:50 <iurgi> Karbowiak: try killing different services
Jun 09 18:04:59 <Karbowiak> already tried
Jun 09 18:05:13 <iurgi> and none releaved the fonera from the sortirqs?
Jun 09 18:05:22 <Karbowiak> nop
Jun 09 18:05:40 <Karbowiak> as soon as i start to speedtest / download anything that goes above ~2MB/s - it wont go any further
Jun 09 18:05:56 <Karbowiak> it just goes up to ~90-95% softirq according to top, and denies going further
Jun 09 18:06:06 <Karbowiak> when i stop the download, it goes down to 0 again and all is fine and dandy
Jun 09 18:06:36 <Karbowiak> brb
Jun 09 18:08:06 <iurgi> well
Jun 09 18:08:15 <iurgi> it looks like they are created by the natting system
Jun 09 18:08:24 <iurgi> I guess natting uses softirqs?
Jun 09 18:08:36 <iurgi> try to transfer from wifi to LAN instead of WAN
Jun 09 18:08:44 <iurgi> and see if it makes any difference
Jun 09 18:09:10 <Karbowiak|> bit hard when i dont have any wifi units, lol
Jun 09 18:09:26 <iurgi> a switch?
Jun 09 18:09:52 <Karbowiak|> hmm, 2sec i'll try something :)
Jun 09 18:09:52 <iurgi> ah, won't help
Jun 09 18:09:53 <iurgi> nevermind
Jun 09 18:12:36 <Karbowiak|> woah
Jun 09 18:12:40 <iurgi> what?
Jun 09 18:12:41 <Karbowiak|> lots of stuff in iptables lol
Jun 09 18:12:44 <iurgi> yeah
Jun 09 18:13:40 <Karbowiak|> well the only problem i am meeting atm, is the redboot one - so i cant flash it with a new version of OpenWRT or DD-WRT
Jun 09 18:13:49 <Karbowiak|> which, sucks :(
Jun 09 18:14:09 <iurgi> as I said, you DON'T need redboot
Jun 09 18:14:25 <Karbowiak|> well, how should i do it otherwise ?
Jun 09 18:14:32 <Karbowiak|> everything i look at says i need redboot access
Jun 09 18:14:49 <iurgi> mtd is your friend
Jun 09 18:18:49 <Karbowiak|> rite, find me a way to install openWRT with mtd ^^
Jun 09 18:22:48 <iurgi> mtd -r write openwrt_image_name image
Jun 09 18:22:52 <iurgi> imo
Jun 09 18:22:59 <iurgi> but, I didn't want to tell you form heart
Jun 09 18:23:05 <Karbowiak|> yeah, but the problem is - there is two
Jun 09 18:23:08 <iurgi> because if you rbeak it then, you need redboot
Jun 09 18:23:09 <iurgi> XD
Jun 09 18:23:13 <iurgi> 2 what?
Jun 09 18:23:17 <Karbowiak|> two files
Jun 09 18:23:21 <iurgi> where?
Jun 09 18:23:22 <Karbowiak|> vmlinux.lzma and root.squashfs
Jun 09 18:23:26 <iurgi> squashfs
Jun 09 18:23:39 <iurgi> wait
Jun 09 18:23:39 <iurgi> no
Jun 09 18:23:40 <iurgi> no
Jun 09 18:23:41 <Karbowiak|> well, without redboot that is pretty retarded todo
Jun 09 18:23:43 <iurgi> none of those
Jun 09 18:23:51 <iurgi> ?
Jun 09 18:23:59 <Karbowiak|> if it DOES screw up, its bricked
Jun 09 18:24:01 <Karbowiak|> without redboot
Jun 09 18:24:01 <iurgi> redboot is much more difficult to manage than linux, imo
Jun 09 18:24:04 <iurgi> ?
Jun 09 18:24:08 <iurgi> no
Jun 09 18:24:11 <iurgi> there's always serial
Jun 09 18:24:13 <iurgi> :)
Jun 09 18:24:24 <Karbowiak|> yeah, but i dont have stuff for the serial access
Jun 09 18:24:41 <iurgi> ok
Jun 09 18:24:50 <iurgi> maybe you should get it...
Jun 09 18:25:06 <iurgi> playing with redboot without serial is not either the best idea...
Jun 09 18:27:37 <Karbowiak|> uh
Jun 09 18:27:39 <Karbowiak|> what
Jun 09 18:44:24 <Karbowiak> gah
Jun 09 18:44:27 <Karbowiak> i suck at iptables
Jun 09 18:47:45 <txurdi> hello
Jun 09 18:48:01 <iurgi> hi txurdi
Jun 09 18:48:07 <iurgi> I see you read my tweet :D
Jun 09 18:48:16 <txurdi> yes :-)
Jun 09 18:48:21 <iurgi> XD
Jun 09 18:48:30 * iurgi hates tweeter
Jun 09 18:48:37 <iurgi> or whatever it's spelled like
Jun 09 19:00:51 <Karbowiak> twitter is about as useless as a piece of cake 5 months old
Jun 09 19:01:19 * iurgi agrees partly
Jun 09 19:01:22 <iurgi> useless personaly
Jun 09 19:01:45 <iurgi> but I'm starting to be abit surprised how powerful it is as a legal spam system for companies...
Jun 09 19:03:02 <Karbowiak> only if people actually look at a twitter
Jun 09 19:03:03 <Karbowiak> :P
Jun 09 19:05:01 * Decodecoding likes twitter
Jun 09 19:06:23 <iurgi> Decodecoding: maybe you can explain me why?
Jun 09 19:06:44 <iurgi> I mean... I could never get attracted by it...
Jun 09 19:06:47 <iurgi> and I tried...
Jun 09 19:06:55 <iurgi> plus I think it's very difficult to use
Jun 09 19:06:55 <iurgi> lol
Jun 09 19:07:15 <Decodecoding> I find it convenient for staying in touch with people I'd hardly know about other ways
Jun 09 19:07:24 <iurgi> ehr...
Jun 09 19:07:26 <iurgi> facebook?
Jun 09 19:07:26 <iurgi> :P
Jun 09 19:07:47 <Decodecoding> Facebook is too complicated for me. Flooded with useless apps and silly games
Jun 09 19:08:07 <iurgi> ewll...
Jun 09 19:08:11 <iurgi> now that I think off
Jun 09 19:08:17 <iurgi> I disabled a LOT of people on facebook
Jun 09 19:08:20 <Decodecoding> I only find facebook usefull for sharing video and photos
Jun 09 19:08:24 <iurgi> and I disabled all alerts, notifications etc
Jun 09 19:08:36 <iurgi> except for the "status" of my friends...
Jun 09 19:08:42 <iurgi> I guess that's tweetr
Jun 09 19:08:43 <iurgi> lol
Jun 09 19:08:45 <Decodecoding> Me too
Jun 09 19:09:12 <Decodecoding> I'm a flickr fan and I'd love my friends and family would use it too
Jun 09 19:09:56 <iurgi> me too
Jun 09 19:10:10 <txurdi> I like twiter and facebook :-)
Jun 09 19:10:32 <txurdi> I developed an app for facebook
Jun 09 19:11:19 <iurgi> develop one for the fonera 2.0!!!
Jun 09 19:11:31 <txurdi> I think is a good tool for contacts
Jun 09 19:11:39 <iurgi> txurdi: you just ofund a bug in the fonera 2.0
Jun 09 19:11:44 <txurdi> fonera has facebook yet
Jun 09 19:12:13 <txurdi> with the redirections?
Jun 09 19:12:17 <iurgi> yes
Jun 09 19:12:26 <iurgi> we will fix it
Jun 09 19:12:36 <iurgi> hopefully for next release
Jun 09 19:15:26 <txurdi> can I change it entering ssh?
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