**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jun 29 02:59:56 2009
Jun 29 06:46:07 <Danicasti> Hi! Buongiorno!
Jun 29 08:48:59 <Decodecoding> good morning
Jun 29 08:49:09 <blogic> hi
Jun 29 08:49:55 <Decodecoding> hi blogic, what about your vacation?
Jun 29 08:51:45 <blogic> good
Jun 29 08:51:52 <blogic> amazing actually
Jun 29 08:51:53 <blogic> :)
Jun 29 08:51:59 <blogic> i am full of energy again
Jun 29 08:52:04 <Decodecoding> good. lucky you
Jun 29 08:52:06 <blogic> i am just doing ameil backlog
Jun 29 08:52:18 <blogic> and i already did some bugfixing yesterday :)
Jun 29 08:52:25 <blogic> i am still booting the brain
Jun 29 08:52:26 <blogic> :)
Jun 29 08:53:32 <Decodecoding> I've been checking the fonosfera svn and I saw there are some new things developing
Jun 29 08:54:46 <Decodecoding> interesting things imo
Jun 29 08:55:38 <Trou> does anyone know if there are fonera 2.0 in stock ?
Jun 29 08:55:45 <iurgi> there are
Jun 29 08:55:57 <Trou> cool
Jun 29 09:38:44 <Danicasti> blogic: well back to work! :)
Jun 29 12:22:05 <Decodecoding> Is transmission to be included in new releases?
Jun 29 12:22:21 <iurgi> Decodecoding: ?
Jun 29 12:22:25 <iurgi> why?
Jun 29 12:22:59 <Decodecoding> I've seen something called transmission 1.71 in the svn. Is it a different thing?
Jun 29 12:23:53 <blogic> yes
Jun 29 12:24:17 <Decodecoding> Yes = is a different thing? ;-)
Jun 29 12:24:27 <blogic> yes
Jun 29 12:24:30 <Decodecoding> ok
Jun 29 12:24:38 <Decodecoding> My mistake
Jun 29 12:32:44 <iurgi> did anyone test youtube service with an old youtube (pre google) account?
Jun 29 12:32:58 <Decodecoding> yes
Jun 29 12:33:04 <iurgi> or, better: did anyone have trouble login to youtube?
Jun 29 12:33:07 <iurgi> Decodecoding: and?
Jun 29 12:33:12 <Decodecoding> no problem login
Jun 29 12:33:16 <Decodecoding> but....
Jun 29 12:33:16 <iurgi> Decodecoding: thanks
Jun 29 12:33:19 <iurgi> but
Jun 29 12:33:38 <Decodecoding> with 2.2.6 RC2, it didn't work for me
Jun 29 12:33:48 <iurgi> ahaaa
Jun 29 12:33:50 <iurgi> that was it
Jun 29 12:34:11 <Decodecoding> and with 2.2.5 final it works, the video gets uploaded but the Youtube fonera GUI shows "error"
Jun 29 12:35:14 <Decodecoding> tonight I'll switch back to 2.2.6 RC2
Jun 29 12:35:37 <iurgi> Decodecoding: this 'error' happneed to me too
Jun 29 12:35:49 <Decodecoding> I see
Jun 29 12:54:24 <jmares_> A mi me sale este error bastante a menudo Your Internet is misconfigured : Configure Internet Connection
Jun 29 12:54:24 <jmares_> mientras navego
Jun 29 12:54:46 <iurgi> jmares_: cuando te pasa eso?
Jun 29 12:56:32 <jmares_> De vez en cuando, sin que la fonera este haciendo nada en particular
Jun 29 12:56:43 <iurgi> con qu eversion?
Jun 29 12:56:52 <jmares_> estoy navegando, hago click en un enlace y me sale una pantalla naranja con ese texto
Jun 29 12:56:52 <jmares_> 2.2.5
Jun 29 12:56:59 <iurgi> hmmm
Jun 29 12:57:11 <iurgi> estas seguro de que tu router no pierde la conexcion?
Jun 29 12:57:14 <iurgi> el cable esta bien?
Jun 29 12:57:20 <iurgi> nadie mas ha reportado ese problema
Jun 29 12:57:28 <iurgi> yo diria que tiene quever con tu conexion/router/cable
Jun 29 12:57:43 <Decodecoding> yo con la 2.2.5 nunca he tenido problema de conexion
Jun 29 12:58:02 <Decodecoding> con las 2.2.6 :-(
Jun 29 12:58:18 <iurgi> con la 2.2.6. si?
Jun 29 12:58:35 <Decodecoding> lo que te contaba por mail de el router linksys y el cable modem
Jun 29 12:58:38 <jmares_> iurgi: mi router pierde la conexion bastante a menudo, sera eso
Jun 29 12:58:40 <iurgi> ah
Jun 29 12:58:45 <iurgi> jmares_: si, es eso
Jun 29 12:58:50 <iurgi> Decodecoding: ok
Jun 29 15:20:27 <jmares_> sabeis si existen medidores de consumo de electricidad con wifi?
Jun 29 15:20:52 <iurgi> no entiendo la pregunta
Jun 29 15:20:52 <iurgi> :o
Jun 29 15:21:34 <jmares_> power meters with wifi capability
Jun 29 15:22:31 <jmares_> that can measure energy consumption in real time and broadcast it via wifi
Jun 29 15:22:45 <jmares_> me explico? :)
Jun 29 15:29:54 <iurgi> ah
Jun 29 15:29:55 <iurgi> si
Jun 29 15:29:58 <iurgi> pues ni idea
Jun 29 15:29:58 <iurgi> :)
Jun 29 15:31:12 <jmares_> ok gracias :) es interesante lo que google esta haciendo con el power meter. me pregunto si la fonera podria ser util como parte de su proyecto de hacer que el consumo sea mas facil de medir...
Jun 29 15:31:57 <iurgi> que es lo del powermeter?
Jun 29 15:32:21 <jmares_> http://www.google.org/powermeter/
Jun 29 15:32:56 <jmares_> les interesa el tema de la smart grid y el Power Meter es su primera iniciativa en ese ambito
Jun 29 15:33:14 <jmares_> que yo sepa es su  unica iniciativa de smart grid por ahora
Jun 29 15:33:34 <jmares_> te linkeo por si no la conoces : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_grid
Jun 29 15:34:15 <iurgi> nice
Jun 29 15:41:38 <xMff1> not sure what you're talking about exactly but this looks interesting too: http://sisolo.wiki.sourceforge.net/
Jun 29 15:42:36 <iurgi> xMff1: well, it is somehow related as in energy related
Jun 29 15:43:08 <xMff1> ;)
Jun 29 15:43:19 <iurgi> :)
Jun 29 15:43:27 <iurgi> I'm not sure what jmares_ is thinking on...
Jun 29 15:49:48 <xMff1> I remeber this one: http://code.google.com/p/ted4linux/wiki/theWRTSL54GS
Jun 29 15:50:16 <xMff1> TED is a power meter with linux support, someone made it working with openwrt and even integrated it with luci-statistics
Jun 29 15:51:28 <xMff1> anyway, I'll just shut up, have to do actual work :D
Jun 29 15:51:33 <jmares_> sorry i was away
Jun 29 15:51:40 <jmares_> xMff1: thanks, let me look into it
Jun 29 15:54:23 <jmares_> xMff1: regarding sisolo from the first link, that is very interesting too.
Jun 29 16:01:09 <jmares_> xMff1: Very cool, that TED. I'd like to buy one!
Jun 29 16:06:29 <jmares_> Do you think these could make good Fonera apps? I think they would
Jun 29 16:07:47 <xMff1> yes I think so
Jun 29 16:08:06 <xMff1> the whole home controlling / sensoring stuff
Jun 29 16:08:12 <jmares_> Do you know the fellows doing this?
Jun 29 16:08:20 <xMff1> I know the ted4linux guy
Jun 29 16:08:25 <jmares_> Exactly my thoughts. Also the Fonera seems great for data collection in general
Jun 29 16:08:31 <jmares_> Does he know about the Fonera?
Jun 29 16:08:35 <Trou> is there a way to buy a fonera 2 without being part of the community ?
Jun 29 16:08:49 <iurgi> Trou what do you mean?
Jun 29 16:09:01 <iurgi> you can go to the shop and buy it
Jun 29 16:09:10 <Trou> yeah but it asks me for a nickname and all
Jun 29 16:09:17 <xMff1> jmares_: yes he does, but I didn't seem for a while, his name is "johnrw" and he usually hangs around in #openwrt and/or #openwrt-devel
Jun 29 16:09:18 <iurgi> well, that's for free
Jun 29 16:09:20 <iurgi> is that a problem?
Jun 29 16:09:24 <Trou> I don't want to be seen anywhere
Jun 29 16:09:28 <xMff1> *seen
Jun 29 16:09:36 <Trou> I just want the hardware :)
Jun 29 16:09:36 <iurgi> Trou: how do you intend to pay?
Jun 29 16:09:39 <xMff1> **seen him
Jun 29 16:09:44 <iurgi> well, yuo ned to pay for it
Jun 29 16:09:46 <Trou> iurgi: i mean on public maps
Jun 29 16:09:49 * iurgi seen him too
Jun 29 16:09:50 <Trou> or anything
Jun 29 16:10:03 <iurgi> Trou: signing up doesn't mean to be in the maps or anything
Jun 29 16:10:05 <Trou> of course I need to pay and get the package
Jun 29 16:10:17 <iurgi> 1) create account
Jun 29 16:10:19 <iurgi> 2) buy
Jun 29 16:10:20 <Trou> "Remember that your Nickname will be publicly viewable on the FON Maps"
Jun 29 16:10:22 <iurgi> 3) get it
Jun 29 16:10:26 <iurgi> 4) conenct to it
Jun 29 16:10:29 <iurgi> 5) register
Jun 29 16:10:36 <iurgi> only if you register will show in the maps
Jun 29 16:10:42 <iurgi> you can skip registration
Jun 29 16:10:48 <jmares_> xMff1: Ok cool, thanks. Can I get your email perhaps? You've been quite helpful.
Jun 29 16:10:49 <Trou> ah ok
Jun 29 16:10:51 <Trou> that wasn't clear :)
Jun 29 16:11:00 <Trou> thanks for the info
Jun 29 16:11:04 <xMff1> jmares_: xm@subsignal.org
Jun 29 16:11:09 <iurgi> Trou: the nickname thing is in case a) you have a hotspot that you registered or b) you connect to a hotspot
Jun 29 16:11:22 <iurgi> in the second case it will be shown to the owner of the router you connected to
Jun 29 16:11:26 <iurgi> but only the nickname
Jun 29 16:12:11 <iurgi> so if you don't register your router, you get no roaming so you cannot connect to other routers so your nick won't be displayed
Jun 29 16:12:15 <iurgi> XD
Jun 29 16:12:18 <Trou> yeah ok :)
Jun 29 16:12:25 <Trou> i'm only interested in the hardware anyway
Jun 29 16:12:54 <iurgi> sure
Jun 29 16:13:07 <iurgi> with the next firmware release the fon feature can be disabled
Jun 29 16:13:26 <Trou> ah nice, I intended to install a vanilla openwrt
Jun 29 16:13:42 <Trou> but this can be useful for a more userfriendly interface
Jun 29 16:13:44 <iurgi> feel free to do that too
Jun 29 16:13:47 <iurgi> but yeah
Jun 29 16:13:49 <iurgi> exactly
Jun 29 16:14:09 <Trou> (i.e. not for me but for less tech-savy friends)
Jun 29 16:14:22 <iurgi> yeah
Jun 29 16:14:34 <Trou> *savvy
Jun 29 16:43:27 <Decodecoding> My brother got is fonera. Now, the question: Should I advice him to flash 2.2.5 or 2.2.6 RC2?
Jun 29 16:47:08 <blogic> Decodecoding: lol
Jun 29 16:49:38 <iurgi> hehehe
Jun 29 16:50:04 <Decodecoding> No hidden intention in the question (H)
Jun 29 16:50:30 <iurgi> yeah, still funny :P
Jun 29 16:50:38 <iurgi> I would use rc2 myself
Jun 29 16:51:09 <blogic> me too
Jun 29 16:51:13 <blogic> or rc3 :)
Jun 29 16:51:18 <iurgi> :o
Jun 29 16:51:24 <iurgi> that's not released yet Xd
Jun 29 16:51:26 <iurgi> XD
Jun 29 16:51:36 <Decodecoding> Well, what I thought is RC2 will make a web gui update easier , right?
Jun 29 16:51:43 <blogic> yes
Jun 29 16:51:52 <Decodecoding> when 2.2.6 final is released
Jun 29 16:52:16 <Decodecoding> I'll do so then
Jun 29 17:54:49 <Barbon> oi
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